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== ArbCom activity Azerbaijan-Armenia ==

Dear Mackensen

I see my name appears in the ArbCom and UserCheck which proved negative has been filed once already. While I am getting really tired of biased and groundless accusations from several users such as TigranTheGreat and Haji Piruz, who only try to intimidate and spoil my good name by accusing me of sockpuppeting and being someone I cannot be, I request your immediate attention on this matter.
I am a new user to Misplaced Pages who has a certain degree of knowledge in history and politics of Middle East and Caucausus and is willing to contribute as much as possible. These kind of accusations, including those of my national origin are very baseless.
What can I do to stop these attacks on my personality?? ] 05:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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The Eye

Spammers: I would like for this page to stay reasonably clean. If you have business with me, feel free to leave a comment, else please move on. Please ignore the gigantic eye in the corner with the pump-action shotgun.

Unsigned messages will be ignored. You can sign your messages with four tildes (~~~~). I reserve the right to disruptively eliminate gigantic blobs of wiki-markup from signatures on a whim if I think they're cluttering up my talk page.

Read the DRV, then read this

My reply to you at AfD:

The DRV ordered relisting, Mack. Tony wants to enforce silly red-tape against abstentions, and too busy to fight it -- so I express the will of the DRV (and my own opinion, too) that this has a WP:V problem. Unless you, Mack, are also in love with b'cracy, I'd suggest that we let the AfD, an expression of the DRV's consensus that this needed to be here, continue. Or, if you like, I can use the DRV to justify outright deletion -- a little extreme, since everyone said "relist", but if you and Tony wish to mire AfD in red-tape such that referrals from DRV become impossible here, it is one option that remains. Best wishes, Xoloz 02:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

So, you tell me? If a DRV concludes unanimously that we need to "relist" an AfD, what am supposed to do? Delete it? Keep it? Because Tony's action -- and your line of questioning -- would appear to make AfD an impossible way to proceed. I do what consensus said: I relist. If this strikes you as objectionable, start an RfC, and we'll see which one of us is more grounded in reality.

When did Misplaced Pages become an experiment in bringing Kafta to the Internet age? Xoloz 02:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Frankly, I ask myself that every time I see process triumphing over common sense. If the DRV concludes that it ought to be relisted it's a fair assumption that somebody thinks it ought to be deleted, yes? If that's the case, then the most sensible course of action is for that somebody to go nominate the thing and actually provide a rationale for deletion (which, I note, you actually did after Tony raised the matter). You as the DRV closer don't need to do anything--for that matter, it isn't an appropriate issue for DRV in the first place. The article doesn't benefit from a procedural listing. Mackensen (talk) 02:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
    Mackensen put it in a nutshell. Just close the deletion review and either (if you want to delete) list for deletion with your deletion rationale, or else let someone who does want to delete the article list it for deletion. A deletion listing without any rationale is useless and I'm surprised that you cannot see this. --Tony Sidaway 02:24, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
As I just explained to Tony over at his talk, quite often, DRVs relist for a variety of different reasons that coincide only in the result of relisting. To be accurate, and to be fair, I "abstain" because I would have difficulty expressing all relevant points, as would any lister at AfD. That's why I provide a link to the DRV, open the matter up, and express no firm opinion myself. I give commenters enough credit, that they can read the DRV, and make their minds up. If they wish to say, "Keep... DRV commenters were silly", let them. The matter is best not left lying open, though, because comments made at the DRV are fresh -- why let a "renomination" drag on waiting for someone to take the time to do the relisting themselves? They will present a picture less complete than the closer will, more than likely. A relisting with abstention by the closer is the most accurate way to reflect what DRV does when it decides to relist, it is timely, and it is the fairest option, consistent with the maxim "when in doubt, don't delete". Best wishes, Xoloz 02:35, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I've responded on Tony's talk. Let's consolidate there. Best, Mackensen (talk) 02:37, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Free pass

Comments from proxy refractored on User talk:203.109.157.80#Refractored

So why are you giving MariusM a free pass now? He has been highly disruptive throughout the course of the arbitration, turning the talk pages into a battelfield, edit warring, personally attacking users. He has proven the most difficult user to deal with and now he can get back to it again. El_C 18:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Your (non) response is to take a break? That does not inspire confidence. El_C 19:44, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

  • My non-response is to be at a conference with limited access. I don't support the existing principles because MariusM is not, in my estimation, a single-purpose account. 70.228.216.130 02:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Obviously he attempted to escape that imperssion during the course of the arbitration (which has been dragging for a long time), but how many non-SPA edits do you estimate were undertaken by him prior to the RfAr having been filed? El_C 05:43, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Transnistria arbitration

I would like to express my surprise concerning the probable outcome of the Transnistrian arbitration.

On one side you have an astroturfing network, proved media manipulation, and sockpuppet farms. On the other, you have guys that uncovered this large-scale manipulation and are now calm and reasonable (once the main manipulators are gone, that is). And what this ArbCom does is to inflict similar bans on both sides.

How is this ethical? Do you mean that fighting manipulation attempts is punishable? The only way of bringing down a manipulator being to accept the same punishment? And how about balancing punishment with evidence? Dpotop 12:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

your pro censorship ruling

Is it ok to have in the User:Tobias Conradi page the following

The orginal version of this page contained admin right abuse listing and was deleted. The deletion is not shown in the deletion log.

This user thinks Misplaced Pages should be more tranparent with respect to admin actions. All users should be allowed to have annotated listings of admin actions, e.g. listings of admin right abuses.

Unfortunatly the ArbCom ruled that "Tobias Conradi is prohibited from maintaining laundry lists of grievances." and referring here to a simple listing of annotated diffs. User_talk:Tobias Conradi/RfA

Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Tobias_Conradi/Proposed_decision#Laundry_lists_of_grievances

So User:Tobias Conradi is denied the right to collect evidences of admin right abuses.

It reminds me on people committing crime and when the victim wants to change things by making the crime public he is additionally abused by being censored.

http://transparency.org

Tobias Conradi (Talk) 12:41, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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Seeking info about block

Mackensen, can you shed some more light (by email if necessary) on your block of Biophase (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I've procedurally declined the unblock request pending comment from you. Even identifying the arbcom case would be helpful.--Chaser - T 01:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I want to know what's going on here.

Naming Duchesses!

Would you care to comment here? Giano 07:55, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

1RR per week

why did you vote for putting me on 1RR per week? I never even violated 3RR. Even if one admin claimed so in the block log - my first block I received. And the first in a long row of false blocks. Pls tell what I did you think to cure with 1RR per week. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 22:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Wood Lane

The new station is at Wood_Lane_(Hammersmith_&_City_Line)_tube_station

Diyako checkuser logs

You are receiving this because your username either appears on the checkuser list or you were one of the arbitrators that participated in the relevant Arbcom case (User:Dmcdevit, User:Jdforrester, User:The Epopt, User:Charles Matthews, User:Sam Korn, User:Fred Bauder, User:Jayjg, User:Morven, User:Neutrality).

Currently User:Diyako/User:Xebat is at a stale state for not editing over a month. User hasn't edited for slightly over a year due to an arbcom sanctioned ban. I have a reason to believe (, , ) there may be a connection as the edit pattern seems similar in many ways. Diyako's wikipedia ban has recently expired but if he is continuing a similar behavior as User:D.Kurdistani, there needs to be a further consideration either by ARBCOM or Community Sanction board (latter seems more appropriate IMHO). A successful checkuser would be very helpful in the decision making process on this issue.

This inquiry is to request if you have "personal logs" of Diyako/Xebat's IP's to compare with User:D.Kurdistani and possible other socks. This is NOT a request for the logs themselves but on weather or not you have them. Please reply on my talk page to confirm if you have the logs or not. User:Mackensen appears to be the only person to have preformed a successful checkuser but others may also have this info.

-- Cat 10:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Brewing problem with User:FatherTree

I filed an AN/I on this user regarding knowingly making false accusations of my being a sockpuppet and later about his canvasing, which when deleted was refiled. ( and .) Another editor, YechielMan suggested I contatct you to look into this. If you can respond on my talk page or by e-mail I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions...and any action you can take. DPeterson 11:42, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

The Editor's Barnstar

The Editor's Barnstar
I noticed that your edits were impressive and so I've decided to award you this Editor's Barnstar! Wikidudeman 06:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Repeatedly banned user

According to your remark at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/EJBanks, a certain vandal and creator of quickly deleted categories and articles, who has been repeatedly banned under numerous usernames (Creepy Crawler, EJBanks, Poker Master, BarackObama, TheJediCouncil), has a static IP address. So how does he keep coming back? Doczilla 07:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Anna Svidersky

In May 2006, you nominated for closed the AFD for this crime report/memorial article about a murdered teenager, which was kept. You commented it might need looking at again in a year. I do not see the details on the WP:AFD page on how to do a repeat afd nomination. By the more recent outcomes tabulated on the talkpage of essay WP:NOTNEWS and the policy WP:NOT do you think you might give it another nomination? Or does a re-nomination use exactly and only the procedure described at WP:AFD? It appears that additional info about the prior AFDs appears, but I don't see any reference to it on the how-to page. Thanks Edison 18:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

  • The procedure is substantially the same, especially as the first nomination was over a year ago. You use the {{afdx}} template instead so that the nomination goes in the right place. When nominating, it's good form to mention the previous nomination, and why you think the issue ought to be revisited. In light of my remarks, it might be worth asking whether this incident is still mentioned at all in the news media. Best, Mackensen (talk) 13:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom activity

Hi and welcome back. Please let us know if/when you want to be put back on the active arbitrators list, and if so, on everything pending or just on future cases and those you actually vote on. Thanks and regards, Newyorkbrad 13:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Hkelkar 2

Hi Mackensen! Have the arbitrators examined the (onwiki) behaviour of all involved parties and was it ignored? I am unable to make out whether anybody apart from Rama Arrow's behaviour has been looked at carefully. As you are probably aware, there were many uncivil comments and personal attacks made by other people. Gizza 00:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for addressing the issue more overtly. Please also see talk page User:JFD has requested the arbitrators to look at one of particular remedies. Gizza 03:09, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Glomp

We kept the script kitties busy, while you were out.

A belated welcome back! – Luna Santin (talk) 08:16, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

IRC

Hey, when you get a minute or two, Armedblowfish would like to speak to you on IRC. He asked that I let you know. Have a great day. :-) ^demon 15:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Here

The Barnstar of Good Humor
For the "...will be hit on the head with sticks until the situation improves." line here Kwsn 05:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Qst checkuser

On the checkuser for Qst, you indicated that all the users listed, except for Qst, were socks of Molag Bal (talk · contribs). Does this include the anon IP user:81.153.223.189? This is important as an accusation of sockpuppetry has been filed against Qst alleging that Qst used the IP. Could you please comment at Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Qst or drop a note by Riana (talk · contribs), the blocking admin? Regards, Flyguy649 contribs 06:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

User Check Request you declinded

Regarding this user request , there is a basis for checking, as the suspicion has come up a few times and such accusations have been made, brought to my atttention, and others I'm sure. True, the evidence is circumstancial, so its not fair for UltraMarine to have this shadow haning over him (if he is not the banned user). Therefore, I think that ruling this out with a user check should be a welcome thing for him, to establish his innocence. Now, if it is the banned user, displaying the linguistic evidence is not a good idea per WP: "don't spill the beans". I've seen serveral user checks carried out on the basis these circumstancial suspicions before, suc as as been presented by the editor requesting the user check. But, if you need more specific evidence for the suspicions, that can be provided.Giovanni33 15:40, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, are users allowed to make proposals: I thought that was limited to Admins. Also, I'm not done posting my evidence.Hajji Piruz 01:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, nevermind.Hajji Piruz 02:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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Sebring(Florida) Amtrak Station Infobox

I see you've found a way to combine the two infoboxes for the Sebring (Amtrak station), aka the Old Sebring Seaboard Air Line Depot. Can you give me some tips on doing so for various Long Island Rail Road stations, as well as others? ---- DanTD 03:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom activity Azerbaijan-Armenia

Dear Mackensen

I see my name appears in the ArbCom and UserCheck which proved negative has been filed once already. While I am getting really tired of biased and groundless accusations from several users such as TigranTheGreat and Haji Piruz, who only try to intimidate and spoil my good name by accusing me of sockpuppeting and being someone I cannot be, I request your immediate attention on this matter. I am a new user to Misplaced Pages who has a certain degree of knowledge in history and politics of Middle East and Caucausus and is willing to contribute as much as possible. These kind of accusations, including those of my national origin are very baseless. What can I do to stop these attacks on my personality?? Ehud 05:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)