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Archive: 2004

Nomination

Thanks for your support on requests for adminship. Happy new year. Tim Ivorson 17:11, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

men nguyen

-why did you revert my changes of men nguyen? --Bnguyen 00:56, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

--thanks for the input with making the corrections, you are definitly right after i reviewed the differences in the biographies.--Bnguyen 06:47, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Bastard administrator

Thanks for cleaning up the mess. Cheers, -Willmcw 21:51, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Ditto. Mackensen (talk) 23:13, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Boundary Bend

Hi there. I noticed you placed a verify tag on Boundary Bend. Could you please state why in the talk page there? Thanks. JoaoRicardo 04:45, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

David Pham

-I wrote them a email about three days before I posted the photo and recieved an email from them agreeing to post it for the encyclopedia or school heritage for Asian Pacific Islander Month in the United States this May 2005. The person that answered the email, just signed it Poker Pages Staff. I dont know if the same person, that you wrote and I wrote. But just to keep wikipedia safe, I would suggest then, we remove if you have not already, the photo, and I will just contact another more reliable source for a photo of David Pham. thanks for looking into it, it is good that we cover our bases to protect wikipedia.--Bnguyen 18:28, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

-I removed the photo from Poker Pages and will also follow up on it--Bnguyen 19:13, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Discovery Channel Pompeii images

Hi, CryptoDerk. I noticed that you posted some excellent images from the Discovery Channel's "Last Day of Pompeii" TV program (in the Commons). They're quite good, but are you sure they are freely redistributable?

I poked around @ the Discovery Channel web site, and found the following licensing language that seems to cover the entire web site:

Although we make the Discovery Sites freely accessible, we don't intend to give up our rights, or anyone else's rights, to the materials appearing on the Discovery Sites. The materials available through the Discovery Sites are the property of Discovery.com or its licensors, and are protected by copyright, trademark and other intellectual property laws. You are free to display and print for your personal, noncommercial use information you receive through the Discovery Sites. But you may not otherwise reproduce any of the materials without the prior written consent of the owner. You may not distribute copies of materials found on the Discovery Sites in any form (including by email or other electronic means), without prior written permission from the owner. Of course, you're free to encourage others to access the information themselves on the Discovery Sites, and to tell them how to find it.

Sounds like the photos are not appropriate for any of the Wikipedias, unless --- did you get prior written consent? There wasn't any indication of such consent at the Commons.

Could you kindly update the image page with a link to the specific licensing language that you found? Or, if this is the only license, could you remove the photos from the Commons?

Thanks a lot! -- hike395 05:27, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

OK, I'll ask User:Danny if he could put more explanation on the Commons pages. Sorry to bother you. -- hike395

Hi CryptoDerk,

I've removed Image:Pompeii the last day 1.jpg from the articles on which it was featured and I've listed it on WP:CP due to the lack of any licence or attribution. I'm afraid a verbal statement to User:Danny isn't good enough - we really need to have something concrete here. -- ChrisO 10:01, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I think this is all sorted now - we have a statement on each of the images, and a fuller statement on the Commons gallery page. If you can think of anywhere else we need to confirm the info, then we can add it there too. The main point to note is that we have a record of the email correspondence to the foundation, and Danny has also talked to the company by phone. So everything should be clear here. CryptoDerk, let me know if anyone asks for more info. And thanks for helping with getting these on-line -- sannse (talk)

In the news

Came up fine for me! Do you want to give it a try yourself? I found it hard to believe such a major event wasn't even in current events, let alone the news headlines. Grunners 01:13, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I'll leave it a while and let you try your hand at it. In the meantime i'll get back to reading your debate with our oh-so knowledgeable critic :). Grunners 01:18, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Good job, keep up the good work. Nice to meet you. :) Grunners 01:23, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Independence Hall photo

You can replace my IH photo with yours if you want. It's up to you. Moncrief 04:33, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)

IN SOVIET RUSSIA, AWARD TAKES YOU!

AH! MOTHERLAND! CryptoDerk 21:51, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, Emory conference

I'd be quite interested, that's not that far from where I live (o.k., well it is a long way) and I could visit Mav while I'm up there. Can you have him contact me by email? Make sure he knows to mention wikipedia in the subject or body to get through my spam filters. :-) --Jimbo Wales 18:17, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

re:Panick attack

Redirs from common mispellings aren't really a bad thing. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 23:41, Jan 28, 2005 (UTC)

Ah, didn't realize that the redir was new. BTW, it's not exactly an uncommon "error". . My guess would be because of panicky, panicked, and panicking ... all with K's. Isn't English wonderful? ;) --Dante Alighieri | Talk 23:55, Jan 28, 2005 (UTC)

PM exchange lists

CryptoDerk: Before Oleg goes to the trouble of generating all the PM Exchange lists, It might be good if we made the "announcement" I suggested first, to make sure anyone who hasn't been following the discussion here, and wants to comment on it gets a chance to. Paul August ☎ 05:54, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)

Subsequence

Your formal definition only works in the infinite case, whereas the concept is for finite sequences too (like the example). --Zero 02:40, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

edit conflicts - oops

Sorry about the edit conflicts I will try and stay out of your way. Mathematical proof refers to an "existence proof" as a nonconstructive proof. Paul August ☎ 06:32, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

Several variables -- addition of "indeterminate"

Hi Crypto. You added the following text on polynomial:

Additionally, in multivariable polynomials in equations, an indeterminate is a variable that is not known or cannot be solved for.

I am not sure what its purpose is. I mean, polynomials are mostly those funny things which contain x, y, z, etc, and their products and sums. Your paragraph has more to do with solving equations than polynomials, or that's how I see it (these two have some things in common, but overall are different things). Maybe you could just put the stuff from PM straight on indeterminate. What do you think?Oleg Alexandrov | talk 18:01, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

PS: You can reply here. I will check this page. Oleg Alexandrov | talk 18:05, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I thought about indeterminate a while. The way I saw it, it fit best in the polynomial article (especially since indeterminate has a link to polynomial and the polynomial article didn't use the term once). What I inserted was basically a restatement of the first sentence of the PM article. Maybe there is some nuance of indeterminates I don't understand, but what I basically get is "If you have an equation involving polynomials, some variables are either indeterminates or one can solve for them" and "Knowing whether some variables are indeterminates or not may allow us to gain knowledge about other variables". I'm not sure if that even warrants mentioning anywhere, and if it does, if it should go in the polynomial article or somewhere else. CryptoDerk 19:24, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

You certainly have a point. What I am not sure, if that is the best place to put it. You see, the concept of indeterminate is actually about equations. And polynomial equations are just a particular case of equations, I mean think sin(x-log(y))+4z=0.

And it also goes in reverse, a polynomial equation is just a small part of what polynomials are about.

Whoever linked from indeterminate to polynomial I think did not mean solving equations. What that person meant (I think), is that, a polynomial is an expression in which all variables are indeterminate, so we don't even talk about P(x)=0, so not about equations.

In short, there is of course connection between indeterminates, and polynomials, but there are some distinctions between these, so that (in my opinion) a full-fledged article on indeterminates could be a better place to talk about all this rather than polynomial.

So what do you think? Should I go ahead and import the indeterminate article from PM and try to explain what that word means? (Actually, the bigger problem with "indeterminate" is that the word itself is indeterminate -- pun intended. I mean, it is not always a clearly defined word, and can have many meanings). Oleg Alexandrov | talk 19:48, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I have to take some of that back. I read again the PM article, and the connection between polynomials and indeterminates is stronger than I thought. But I still somehow think that the short sentence you put on polynomial does not quite drive the point home as the "indeterminate" article on PM. So, I would still say that we better copy the PM article altogether rather than trying to put a piece of it in polynomial. What do you think? Oleg Alexandrov | talk 19:54, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I will take care of it. Will also ask Charles Mathews for advice, that guy knows a lot. Oleg Alexandrov | talk 20:02, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Vandermonde interpolation approach

Perhaps you already noticed it, but the subject of this article that you copied from PlanetMath is already treated in polynomial interpolation. I am not sure Vandermonde interpolation approach adds anything new. Keep up the good work in PMEX! -- Jitse Niesen 11:24, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Conway's chained arrow notation

Crypto: It turns out we already had an article on this: Conway chained arrow notation. So I changed Conway's chained arrow notation to a redirect, and updated Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Mathematics/PlanetMath Exchange/00-XX General accordingly. Paul August ☎ 13:42, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

"Saddle point approximation" vs. "Method of steepest descent"

Crypto: Do you understand the relationship between the newly created Saddle point approximation and Method of steepest descent?

I'm not familiar with either, but looking at the two, they seem to me clearly different, but also clearly related. For example, the latter says it is the same as "saddle-point method" (in fact it is listed as the first meaning mentioned in the article), and saddle-point method redirects to it. Also at the bottom under "See also", "method of stationary phase" is listed, which, I have seen mentioned as a synonym for "stationary phase approximation", which Saddle point approximation says is the same as "saddle point approximation".

So these two articles should probably refer to each other in some way.

Also if "method of stationary phase" = "saddle point approximation" = "stationary phase approximation", then we should decide under which title the article belongs and create redirects for the other two.

If you can't answer any of these questions, I can take this up on talk:Method of steepest descent or the on the Mathematics Project talk page.

PS. I'm glad you started this project, it's proving very fertile ;-) Paul August ☎ 15:23, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

No privacy! Big brother and other equally evil people are watching! :)

"stationary phase approximation" is of course the same as "method of stationary phase". "saddle point approximation" I think should be the same as "Method of steepest descent". And they are all somehow related by the fact that you estimate an integral with a big parameter. I should know something about these. These days I will try to deal with these articles. Oleg Alexandrov | talk 15:58, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Let me butt in as well. Bender & Orszag: Asymptotic methods and perturbation theory, which I had nearby, distinguish the following cases for integrals with a big parameter denoted $x$: Watson's lemma treats $\int_0^b f(t) e^{-xt} dt$, Laplace's method treats $\int_a^b f(t) e^{x\phi(t)} dt$, method of stationary phase treats $\int_a^b f(t) \exp^{ix\phi(t)} dt$, and method of steepest descent treats $\int_C h(t) e^{x\rho(t)}$; here, $f$ and $\phi$ are real functions, $h$ and $\rho$ are complex functions, and $C$ is an integration contour in the complex plane. The first three methods work by expanding $\phi$ around a local minimum/maximum in a Taylor series. The method of steepest descent moves the integration contour in the complex plane until it passes through a saddle point, you can then use the method of stationary phase. Now, looking at the articles, my first impression is that both saddle point approximation and method of steepest descent describe the same approximation, with according to Bender & Orszag should be called Laplace's method. In short, it's a bit of a mess. Fortunately, Oleg volunteered to sort it out for us! -- Jitse Niesen 17:39, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Holy crap get off my talkpage! :O (Kidding) CryptoDerk 17:40, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

OK, I will do that. But, since you have the Bender & Orszag book, I have a suggestion. When you have absolutely nothing better to do in the future, an idea would be to write a method of stationary phase article. The PlanetMath people say it is the same as "saddle point method", but it is not! Oleg Alexandrov | talk 19:38, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

PS: Sorry, Crypto. Oleg Alexandrov | talk 19:38, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

PSS But I don't have anything as big in mind as what Jitse suggested, I will just do some harmonization (I don't have the book either). After I join two articles in one, Jitse could add more stuff on top of it. Oleg Alexandrov | talk 19:38, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Usage of planetmath template

I haven't checked over what all you've done with the amenable group article, but if you just want to link back to PM as a reference you should use Template:Planetmath reference. You should only use Template:Planetmath if you copied over text. Also, when using Template:Planetmath we generally don't put it in the references section, it just goes at the bottom of the article (much like the EB 1911 template). CryptoDerk 01:53, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)

The earliest versions of amenable group (last March) came from PlanetMath. I suppose that means the Template:Planetmath reference has to remain in the article forever, even if all the text is eventually replaced. Good point about the "References" section, though. By the way, I like the improved smiling action. dbenbenn | talk 03:27, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Yidlix

Thanks for clobbering that simple idiot. Somehow, I'd always managed to avoid seeing that "Goatse" thing...until now. Eww. Anyway, I owe you one. - Lucky 6.9 01:50, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thank from me too! You clobbered it by the time I found out out what happened. iMeowbot~Mw 02:21, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Rv Vandalsim

umm ok, so i'll just let vandalism stand then --User:Boothy443 | comhrÚ 06:04, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

oh well thanks for bashing me over the head for a stupid thing tlike that. --User:Boothy443 | comhrÚ 06:14, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Adminship

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Brian0918 Please strike out any parts of your objection which you believe are no longer valid, such as possibly the first, third, and fourth items. Thanks. --brian0918™ 16:51, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hebranaut

Thanks CryptoDerk. I assume he will e-mail several admins, so I've responded on my Talk: page. Jayjg 04:16, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

User:Wheee!

Good work deleting those; have you reported the bug which makes the "redirected from" not show? (using en:de: in redirect) Thue | talk 19:18, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

planet math

Wouldn't it be better to only put neeeds to be merged in bold, whereas WP article is more complete isn't .. that way, one can see more quickly and easily what articles need attention? (User:Linas forgot to sign).

Hey Crypto. The script has actually been ready for a while. And no, it does not care about what happens in each individual entries, spelling or all. All that matters is the article ID and the section in which the article shows up (recall that an article can show up in many sections). Now, sticking to a fixed and predicatable format is good for another reason. I wrote another (very simple) script, to do automated statistics (you know, how many articles are copied, how many are not needed, etc). One day we might use that.

Now, the reason I did not tell you guys about the script being finished, is that I still have no good way of doing uploads and downloads from/to Misplaced Pages. wix (the perl script which does that) got updated, but I have issues with the version of Perl installed on my school system where I do the work, so I can't use it. There could be a Python bot I could use, I need to investigate more. Oleg Alexandrov 00:05, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Moulin Rouge

Do not remove that Madonna link. Madonna alone goes back to a disambiguation page and not the Madonna article itself. I don't know what your idea of a "good" version is, but removing something like that is IMO bad editing. Megan1967 01:59, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank You! from Carbonite

Thank you for supporting my RfA. I very much appreciate your confidence in me. Please let me know if you see something I should (or shouldn't) be doing as an admin. Regards, Patrick. Carbonite | Talk 13:41, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

New Mathematics Project Participants List

Hi Crypto.

In case you didn't follow the discussion on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Mathematics here: Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Mathematics#Reformat of Participants list, I' wanted to let you know that I've converted the "WikiProject Mathematics Participants List" into a table. It is now alphabetical, includes links to the participant's talk page and contribution list, and has a field for "Areas of Interest". I thought you might want to check and/or update your entry.

By the way, although our pace has slowed somewhat, the PM Exchange project seems to be making steady progress.

Cheers, Paul August ☎ 19:18, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism

Some vandal is using your name, Netoholic and SPUI in es:wikipedia, do you have any idea of this user?? --Rafa

Thanks for the information. bye --Rafa

Tau Bate

I also just started List of Tau Beta Pi chapters. Please feel free to edit away. The year of initiation (or should it be induction?) might take some work searching around since tbp.org doesn't readily list them. Though, I think I saw a list in The Bent recently having that....

I haven't been able to make it to a convention yet. Perhaps after I finish with school and am free from homework and exams. 6 weeks of classes and a thesis away from getting my MS. Cburnett 01:39, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I'm Tau Bate also -- Computer Science, University of Kansas. *waves* Hi! This place is WAY too addictive... ~ Sairen42

Vandalism

Someone at Klingon Misplaced Pages who is obsessed with the Autofellatio picture is trying to frame you and other English Misplaced Pages administrators. → JarlaxleArtemis 23:47, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism in Spanish

Hi Crypto! I'm Jondel from the Philippines. Are you fighting or are you an admin at the Spanish wiki? Spanish is not my native language. Adminsitrator Dodo at the Spanish wiki unilaterally edited some of my articles and did some things no admin would do here in the English which would be construed as vandalism. More details available but I just need to know if you are an admin there. Thanks.--Jondel 02:19, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the quick revert of the vandalism on my user talk page. --cesarb 18:42, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Our Chat

OK, didn't know what was going on. Gotta admit, it's confusing as three other admins deleted is well in 10 minutes. Perhaps a more clear message, or an edit summary that better describes what's going on? Fuzheado | Talk

CryptoDerk, perhaps we should use another message? The template now says:

Misplaced Pages does not yet have an article with this exact name.

• Start the Mediawiki:noarticletext article

It's inviting folks to edit with the standard mediawiki message. Shouldn't there be a better message than this? Fuzheado | Talk 03:47, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Our Chat

Oh, OK. that explains it. Sorry... Fire Star 03:45, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Air Florida Flight 90

The sentence you mentioned was taken from one of the sources I found on a websearch. It shoudl have been attributed. The duplicate sections came about because I originally was only writing to that article, and ended up with red links. I was there the day it happened (not directly involved, thank God) and it is a subject I feel strongly about. I'll put it back on my to-do list to improve. Thanks. Mark in Richmond. Vaoverland 22:21, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

University of Waterloo Federation of Students

Hi. I'm not sure if you were an undergrad at Waterloo, but in any case, could you take a look at University of Waterloo Federation of Students? More voices on the page would be good. Thanks. Revived 02:04, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for your highly enthusiastic support on my RfA! I shall attempt to put the shiny new buttons to good use. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi CryptoDerk. Thank you for supporting my RfA. I will make sure you don't regret it. Cheers. Phils 19:40, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Copyright status on images Azathar put up

You might as well delete them (the pictures) then, which will suck, since the articles should have pictures so people will know who they are, but all but one of the pics I have owned for over a year, and have no clue where I got them from anymore, except that I got them from fan sites, which are usually ignored (copyright wise), as far as I know, about having pictures up.--Azathar 01:24, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why couldn't a notice have been placed under the pics like the one that is used for Hilary Duff: http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Hilary_Duff_Photo_Shoot_August_2004.jpeg

Template:Fuus

The pictures should qualify as fair use under US copywrite law.--Azathar 03:15, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Notability not established

Yes, you are correct on that account. I assume you are familiar with the guidelines on WP:MUSIC? Radiant_* 07:54, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

Cricket

Hi. You commented on the move of the cricket portal to cricket. Having moved the whole affair back, I have made my own proposal. Could you come and comment, so that we can get consensus for the best version. Cheers, Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 19:57, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I did NOT call it a joke.

The heading of that section says The "joke" is useful. You referred to it twice as such and I called it the same thing (even using the same quotes) because it had been referred to before as such by both you and Matt. CryptoDerk 00:05, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

I did NOT call it a joke. I put the word "joke" in quotes. Don't you know what quotation marks mean? They mean I'm saying somebody else called it that. Michael Hardy 00:12, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Confrontational

No big harm, Derek. We all get cranky sometimes, but it's always nice when Wikilove prevails. :) Cheers -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 00:17, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Georgia Link

So what? It's a perfectly valid link. Adam 03:52, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Copyvio

Sorry, the deletion of the copyvio list articles was an accident caused by connection problems here in France. Have rapped myself on the wrist, shall try not to do it again! Physchim62 19:45, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Image deletion

Hi, just to let you know I've re-uploaded my images from en: to commons, so you can delete them in the english section. To go to the pictures, go to my user page - there is a list of 17 images - delete them all - in the english part - not in the commons, because it took me a lot to upload them there. Thanks in advance. --Dungodung 15:35, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for taking out of your time. Cheers! --Dungodung 16:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Allright, you can delete those two images I put up. --User:Flamedude

Anon edits 200.46, at Japanese nationalism and elsewhere

Please note that much of this page has been built up by editing and cleaning contributions from the anon 200.46.X.Y; who is a Spanish speaker. Also, around 30 other related pages (list at User:Charles Matthews/Imperial Japan); he is a prolific guy, with bad English though.

Just today, it seems, he has been adding copyvio stuff, which obviously causes problems. He edits from a constantly varying IP; I have left a note about copyright once.

Charles Matthews 15:55, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Forgive my interjection. This prolific person also does not put spacing after commas, periods and parantheses, and does not start sentences with capital letters. We certainly need to convince this person to make an account (I can also help do some semiautomatical cleanup if you think is needed). Oleg Alexandrov 16:04, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Well, he was once User:Wlad k. If he chooses to edit as an anon, I think the WP convention is just to accept that. The clean-up has to involve things that are rather deeper than standard syntax, though; I have a fair idea of the 'dialect'. But there is just so much of it - several new pages a day, sometimes - and it requires structure, moving and so on. Charles Matthews 16:50, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Decimal expansion of pi

I see that you are the original creator of the Yasumasa Kanada article. I've recently tagged this article disputed, since the claim of pi having only 1.3511 trillion digits would have some serious consequences for the status of pi being a irrational number. Would you please comment on this isue on Talk:Yasumasa Kanada. --Fredrik Orderud 17:08, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! --Fredrik Orderud 17:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

not guilty

well - i never wrote something so stupid as 'You'll never stop me' what you did was erase info from a vfd article that should be there- i don't bother anyone, and i'm not looking for trouble. I just want this article to remain where it is. Tparker393 16:55, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

ok

Fair enough- i put them back as they should be. I'm having some trouble with an admin who calls himself Jerzy-t. I don't know much about it, but his aggresive deletion actions make me wonder if he should hold this status. Tparker393 17:09, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Flowbee

Wasn't trying to "vandalize", just put something more legitimate in its place. Since there is no disputing that what lies in the edit history is a blatant rip from the Salon article, why not be bold and remove it from the history? On that same token, please see the disruption in progress at Dieselboy, your feedback on how to proceed is requested. —RaD Man (talk) 00:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Is there something going on with reverts right now?

I just tried to revert the vandalism of an anon. user to the article "Fag," and the revert shows up on my contribution history, but it doesn't show up on the article's edit history. It shows that it's been reverted when you compare the current version to the last version using the "diff" link in my contribution history, but it's still showing up as the vandalized version when you go to the article. What gives? --Chanting Fox 19:51, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

• I think we have a bigger problem. It looks like the anon. user may have done something that screws around with the article when it comes to it being reverted. According to the edit history, my revert took effect 10 minutes before the vandal... and the content of that version is the same as the vandal's version! I just tried another revert... it didn't show up on the edit history, and the page remained as it was... vandalized! I'm no expert, but I seriously doubt this is a mere database glitch. --Chanting Fox 20:22, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

• Well THAT'S helpful... the IP address appears to trace back to Montreal.... problem is that the IP range I get is too large to be anything but an IP service provider.... since I don't think the vandal needs an IP adminstrator. I'll check on the article again.... maybe THIS time the revert took effect. --Chanting Fox 20:30, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

• I think you're right... considering that it took half an hour for me to be notified about the second message you posted about that. I think I'm going to log out for the day... hopefully the time glitch will be fixed soon. --Chanting Fox 20:49, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

My AOL blocking

Ah, I missed it being an AOL-ip. Yeah, should have gone for a shorter block. Thanks for notising. Shanes 01:10, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Blocking of Me

Over the weekend I have been blocked by you. My I.P address is 80.5.160.8. I don't think you ment to block me, I have noted b4 that other edits are made that seem to come from the same adress as mine and these may indeed have been vadalism. Not quite sure why some one else has got my I.P I am the only person who uses this computer. I have a broadband connection. Anyway I was a bit pissed off at being blocked. Please don't do it again. --JK the unwise 11:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

I tryed to contact you by email. It didn't work, don't know why maby I was doing something wrong. I emailed another administrator (ABCD I think) - No reply. You say it makes no sense for me to be pissed of at being blocked because an IP vandalizes, it gets warned, it gets blocked but 1. I am relativly new to wikipedia, still finding stuff out 2. Its not my fault that some annon vadalises from the same I.P as me!!! Why should I be penalised? Why can't annon's be blocked but logged in users of same I.P not be blocked? (If its tec' reason, why don't they sort it out?). If my I.P is dynamic why is it staying the same? Lastly I would put up that Proxy thingy except I don't really know what its talking about. I don't know if I am using a Proxy or not.--JK the unwise 15:22, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

NPOV in Alexander (movie)

Sorry for not logging in. Well, I meant "mild" by European standards... I could never understand the whole fuss about this movie that was being made during the US release. en.wikipedia.org is not the American wiki, and so some pages could be written a bit more liberal. And about the movie: Though I'm not being a gay, I was really disappointed by the reluctant depictions. Regards, --Keimzelle 15:05, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Alexander MacGregor

Dear Cryptodirk CryptoDerk, could you please block the following 2 IPs? (216.234.37.150 and 216.234.37.151) This is related to vandalism to Alexander MacGregor. Its a bit of a strange story... I was working the other day on a stub about Canada's first Black Canadian physician, and added the link to the list of notable Black Canadians on that page. At that time I noticed a link to the MacGregor page, which I then checked out. At first it looked like a vanity page, so I tried to check out if the guy was actually notable. Well, I found out he was, based on a bunch of not-so-pleasant newspaper stories about him and his company. Anyway, I changed the article to get rid of the systematic bias, and to report the things I found out that were a matter of public record (all of which are carefully documented on the page). It's not my fault that it turns out to be pretty unsavoury. But anyway, either the guy himself or a supporter keeps blanking the page or adding non-verifiable rants. One of the last edits I interpretted as a not-so-subtle threat against my person, I actually found it frightening... I would appreciate if you would check it out. Regards, Fawcett5 17:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Many thanks! By the way, based on the edit history I have reason to believe that 24.43.219.27 is probably the same persons home IP, they all resolve to Toronto, Ontario Fawcett5 17:41, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

2+2 and the poker page

As you possibly have noticed, User:2005 disagrees with you about 2+2's propriety as a link. So be it. I sorta understand the point, that you have to draw the line somewhere and you might as well draw it somewhere that stops the link proliferation problem before it starts. My thinking is just that it seems weird to link RPG but not 2+2 since they're generally accepted as the two canonical sources of poker discussion, and the latter is better organized. But I can live with not including it.

Would it be appropriate to link some of their specific forums, though? Like, say, Omaha/8 on the Omaha page or such?

BTW, I'm also trying to talk up the idea of a poker wiki over there (for strategy, etc.) -- do you know of such already existing?

Thanks -- PhilipR 00:09, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Bathroom Reader Image

I removed the Bathroom Reader Image, thank you for consulting me about it. I guess you can delete it from Misplaced Pages. By the way, I like your user name "CryptoDerk" it sounds kinda cool.

Dbraceyrules 04:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

For the message

I thought that the images that leave in Google are of public dominion, of something they are in favor there...Good, it does not matter...

Yo creía que las imágenes que salen en Google son de dominio público, por algo están allí...Bueno, no importa...

I don't talk good english... For another problem in the future...talk me in Spanish, if you can, please. DaniBos 18:00, 23 May 2005

Hi

Hy Crypto Derk: nice to meet you. I think that images are representative of the country. I don´t believe is a good idea erase it. Please send me your oppinion. Thanks.

For me images are nice. Many countries has a lot of images. Granada

Thanks

CryptoDerk, I tried out your IRC tool today, and, wow, it's brilliant! See right. :) Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 15:06, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Request

As an active vandal-fighter, I wondered whether you could take a look at Misplaced Pages:Vandalism in progress#East Africa vandal. A 24-hour ban would be much appreciated. Btw, your IRC program looks amazing. Many thanks. TreveX 20:54, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I knew User:BanyanTree was an admin but wasn't sure how comfortable he would feel about a block as he is already an interested party in this dispute, having engaged in a heated exchange with the culprit already. I was looking for someone more neutral - thanks for your help! TreveX 21:10, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Speedied VFD debates

I've re-added the VFD debates for the two articles that you speedied, and put the close tags around them. It's best to leave such debates in place for transparency, in case anybody wants to dispute the deletion. See Misplaced Pages talk:Votes for deletion#Speedying speedy debates. sjorford →•← 08:37, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

CDVF

Just a stupid question. What file do you need to open and with which program? I can't see any executables. Mgm| 12:43, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Slot machine

I just noticed how much that article is being "attacked" lately. Just now, which is kind funny, since I've been watching it forever. It seems like the same user has been adding a link to some online casino there, regularly. I just wonder if something could be done about that, since it's been happening for quite a while. His IP is dynamic, so he can't be blocked normally. It points to Passau in Bavaria, Germany. I've already checked. Also, I've never tried range blocking. Seems like it's not encouraged, and it doesn't look simple either. Protecting the page might not be good, since his changes on the article are not that frequent. But I'm not sure. What do you think?--Kaonashi 16:43, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Alright then. Sounds good to me. I'll keep an eye open and fix things if it happens again. Thank you.--Kaonashi 16:52, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Max Stern (Poker player)

Howdy,

I just created Max Stern (Poker player), take a look and see if you can make any improvments.

Klonimus 06:08, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Rovoam

I was only made aware of him on his spree yesterday. Chanting Fox seems to be up to date on Rovoam, and might be able to further advise. From what I leaned from the template that gets stuck on the IP page, he's a long term vandal and it might be worth trying to take other action against him--nixie 06:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Rovoam's vandalisms and Azerbaijanis

Hi Derek,

First, I want to thank you along with many other editors for joining in struggle against Rovoams vandalisms. As I said before, without exagerration Misplaced Pages has never seen such obsessive and persistent vandal before, and unlikely there will emerge another such vandal in the future.(for details you may see disclaimer on this person)

The major reason why I am writing you is to attract your attention to Rovoam's vandalisms in Azerbaijanis. Unfortunately, the page version you have protected is the product of his vandalism and most surprisingly, all the editors including myself, somehow overlooked this.(!). As you probably know, Rovoam was vandalizing about 20 entries simultaneously and was acting behind a whole army of anon IPs. Therefore, sometimes it required a lot of attention to track down all his actions and revert his vandalisms, and it appears now that sometimes we overlooked some of his edits.

Here's how it happened (and btw, all of it took place just in one day, May 20, when Rovoam was reverting almost 10 times(!!) a day):

• .

This was Rovoam acting behind one of his anon IP. It may not be obvious at first glance but he vandalized the page (sneaky vandalism) by completely changing the content and including many nonsense statements and blatant POV. (the content he introduced doesn't matter now, what matters that this was a vandal edit).

Then, amazingly User:Dante Alighieri, who himself was reverting even without consideration all his vandal edits, somehow overlooked this vandalism and did not revert it (perhaps thinking that this was a different person or being tired of constant reverting, maybe..). Dante simply puts cleanup tag but leaves all his edits intact.

Here Rovoam removes cleanup tag introduced by Dante, just for the sake of keeping the page under constant revert (b/c I dont think he really cared about this tag, he simply wanted to disrupt WP further)

And here's the most interesting part. Just like Dante, I amazingly overlooked Rovoam's vandalism and simply reverted his edits to last version by Dante, thus effectively, "endorsing" his earlier vandal edits...

After this edit, I and many other editors, including you, were simply reverting Rovoam's further vandalisms but in fact left his previous vandal edits intact. I noticed how the original page changed only much later and initially did not even know that it was Rovoam. At that time I simply placed totallydiputed tag, then looked at history log, and only afterwards I realized how the entry changed in such drastic way and I realized my mistake.

In short, I just wanted to ask you to unblock the page, at least temporarily, so that I could re-establish the original entry. You can see it here, when Dante himself reverted Rovoam's identical edits to the original version . You can also re-establish that version by yourself and if necessary protect the page again. In any case, I ask you to help me to correct our common mistake as soon as possible. Thanks for everything, once again. --Tabib 13:06, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

• Rovoam is far more persistant a vandal than any I've come across. I had to revert his edits via 2-3 anon. IP addresses to the Turkey article 11 times, and I had to revert quite a few of his edits to Azerbaijanis as well. Furthermore, when one IP he used was blocked, he was back in 5 minutes using another anon. IP. I've taken to looking at the block log every once in a while just out of curiosity... I've seen a 72 hour block applied to an IP with no previous warnings because it was used by him to vandalize articles. He's vandalized quite a few user pages... but if you want to know in great detail about him, the above user (Tabib) is who you should ask. I just became aware of Rovoam a few days ago... and so far he doesn't look like somebody who'll stop due to anything that Misplaced Pages can apply against him... he's definitely using a dynamic IP, and we all know how annoying that is. --Chanting Fox 23:01, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
• I'm not sure if you're aware of this... but it's NOT good news. I posted on the admin noticeboard about Rovoam, and I asked about some of his edit summaries, and what they could mean. Tony Sideways said that the edit summary I was asking about suggests that Rovoam may have been experimenting with a bot, either one that checked articles at certain intervals and reverted them to his version, or one that checked whether his current IP was blocked and if it was, would switch the IP to another. That sounds like bad news to me.... --Chanting Fox 23:19, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Derek, thanks for fixing the old vandalism in Azerbaijanis by Rovoam. He is still vandalizing Nagorno-Karabakh page, which has been his "traditional" target and some other pages. But, I am pretty much sure that he is rather demoralized by now and if we, editors, stay united, he will eventually retreat. I am grateful to you, Chanting Fox and many other editors, above all Tony Sidaways, for all your support. Without such honest people like you, I would quit for long time ago and Rovoam would get along with his vandalisms. --Tabib 11:45, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

{{cleanup-verify}}

You have attached {{cleanup-verify}} to Quaesitosaurus. It is often helpful to specify the information that should be verified on the talk page. I verified pretty much every claim made in that article, but I still might have missed what you were thinking of. I removed the template, feel free to add it back, though. Rl 20:15, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism to Turkey

Do you know if this can be accounted to anything in particular? It certainly seemed ceasless yesterday. El_C 23:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Roger that, thanks for the prompt response. My response is also here. El_C 23:24, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

We've got an impersonator....

I suspect this is a returning vandal... the user is named Chantin' Fox, and he redirected the Faggot article to my userpage. --Chanting Fox 23:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

JiangsMonkeyUncle

Have you seen any of this user's edits?? I told him not to vandalize Misplaced Pages, but he then says he is making good edits. What do you think?? Georgia guy 23:47, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

He vandalized my talk page, so he crossed the line. He was reported to WP:VIP, so I expect a block soon. Also, thanks for reverting my talk page Crypto. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 00:00, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Cryptodurk

I've just banned this impostor. Any idea as to his reason for registering this name? Mgm| 22:21, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

• Another IP to add to my CDVF blacklist (just to be sure). Thanks for the info. Mgm| 14:33, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

Nomination for admin

Hey Weyes. After a brief look at your contribs, I'd like to put you up for admin on June 12 or so. Is it something you'd be interested in? CryptoDerk 23:17, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

I'd be most honoured, thanks. --W(t) 23:23, 2005 May 27 (UTC)

banning

Apologies. It was a typo. I meant to do 1 hour. I corrected it immediately. However there is a problem. One vandal using that a/c is causing all sorts of problems, notably on the Pope Benedict XVI page. What do we do? FearÉIREANNFile:Ireland flag large.png\ 17:31, 28 May 2005 (UTC)