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:I understand your unwillingness to think of such minute details as piping the links when your mind is focused on the content and the flow of the article you are writing, but I'm afraid when it's not possible to satisfy the convenience of both editors and readers, the convenience of readers takes priority (if I were to seek information about the lake, landing on "Staraya Ladoga" after typing "Ladoga" in the search box would be mildly annoying... as would be the necessity to click away first to the dab page and only then to the destination). Knowing your dislike to mindless repetitive edits, I can offer you a compromise—we'll restore the dab page as it were (following the reasoning above), and I'll straighten the links so they point to "Staraya Ladoga" and not to the disambiguation page for you. That is, of course, unless you have any additional counter-arguments I have not yet addressed. Cheers,—] • (]); 23:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | :I understand your unwillingness to think of such minute details as piping the links when your mind is focused on the content and the flow of the article you are writing, but I'm afraid when it's not possible to satisfy the convenience of both editors and readers, the convenience of readers takes priority (if I were to seek information about the lake, landing on "Staraya Ladoga" after typing "Ladoga" in the search box would be mildly annoying... as would be the necessity to click away first to the dab page and only then to the destination). Knowing your dislike to mindless repetitive edits, I can offer you a compromise—we'll restore the dab page as it were (following the reasoning above), and I'll straighten the links so they point to "Staraya Ladoga" and not to the disambiguation page for you. That is, of course, unless you have any additional counter-arguments I have not yet addressed. Cheers,—] • (]); 23:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
::Agreed then. I'll take care of backlinks and restore the dab page some time on Monday. In future, if you happen to encounter a similar dillema, feel free to let me know. I don't mind doing this kind of maintenance at all. Best,—] • (]); 23:23, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | ::Agreed then. I'll take care of backlinks and restore the dab page some time on Monday. In future, if you happen to encounter a similar dillema, feel free to let me know. I don't mind doing this kind of maintenance at all. Best,—] • (]); 23:23, 14 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Heh,Too bad you're not a bureaucrat either to promote me, rather than correcting your comment! :-) NikoSilver 13:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC) Supraśl LavraHi Ghirlandajo, I am the author of the article 'Suprasl Lavra'. I titled the article 'Suprasl Lavra' because that is the title that the monastery is known by in Poland, and natives of Suprasl are told that it was one of only four such holy places in the Russian Empire. I had looked on the history page of the official website and they didn't mention the date that it was given the distinction of 'Lavra' (address is http://www.monaster-suprasl.pl/ but they use the term Lavra throughout the page (Polish term Ławra, declined as Ławrze). I had called the monastery about where I could find out and cite the information. The reply was that 1) The term lawra ws given by the Patriarch of Constantinople at its foundation in the 1500's and 2) The only place that the person knew to cite this information was in an old Russian book from the late 1800's, and that he would provide the name to me if I called back tomorrow. My question is will this suffice, and since you speak Russian, would you be able to find sources on the Lavra in Russian. If what local lore say is true, there were extensive pilgramages here during the period of Russian rule, and the Orthodox church was promoted and protected by the imperial government, which would hint that there would be a lot of literature about it in Russian (hopefully) thanking you in advance for your trouble, --Orestek 20:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
You edit on PitsundaLazica is a Graeco-Roman designation for the region known to the medieval Georgian (and Armenian) annals as Egrisi (hence, the name of Mingrelia). --Kober 08:20, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Miskin caseIt is getting very dirty now: . Actually, I had never heard of this guy Miskin before I saw your exchange with Swatjester. I had a look at Mardavich's talk page history (I wonder if everybody involved in this case did that) and saw that he had "archived away" comments by Miskin and by an admin who had warned him in a different case. Oh, and in case you wondered, I ahve never got any e-mail from Miskin. Checked just now. --Pan Gerwazy 09:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
miskin arbitrationGhirlandajo, I have nothing against releasing the emails. Like I said, I even screenshotted them so that everyone would be able to see them. However, I did make a promise of confidentiality. I'm contacting the people involved to see if they have issues with being identified. It's a little slow, because it's more than one. I have a great deal of respect for you. If you would like to see them, I have no problem showing them to you, provided you keep it to yourself and the ArbCom, until I am told that I can publically release them. ⇒ SWATJester 22:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC) DYK
Russian translationAndrey, I need your help. Please look at the Putin thread on the Humanities desk (3 June). What is it that Jack has written? Love Clio the Muse 13:14, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
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Buri-sadAnother Gokturk entry. Are there any other Russian sources on this guy that you might be able to tap into? Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 16:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC) Native Speaker?Like Clio, I am astonished to discover that English is not your first language. To have your cradle tongue be language with a different alphabet and a different structure, too, and not to have spent time speaking with native speakers is almost beyond belief. (I do believe you, though; I am getting used to the facts of the great skill, talent and training of so many of the Ref Desk participants.) Most of the English used on the web is of such abysmal quality that I am further impressed that you quote it as a principal source. Perhaps you have access to sites that I have never come across. Bielle 19:16, 4 June 2007 (UTC) DYK
Regarding edits to Mail.ruThank you for contributing to Misplaced Pages, Ghirlandajo! However, your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove spam from Misplaced Pages. If you were trying to insert a good link, please accept my creator's apologies, but note that the link you added, matching rule alexa\.com, is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Misplaced Pages. Please read Misplaced Pages's external links guidelines for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! Shadowbot 09:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC) Battle of KonotopI noticed that you reverted my edit in this article. Would you care to explain on the discussion page the reason for it? If you have concerns over the neutrality of the article please note your objections on the discussion page. As of yet there are none. I hope you saw what kind of tag you reverted. Reverts without discussion are counterproductive. Please start dialogue istead of rivert war. --Hillock65 12:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Third Perso-Turkic WarWent through about half of it, will finish the rest later. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 22:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC) Church of KishHi. Please see . Thanks. --Grandmaster 10:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC) Tashtyk, Tagar, Ket et al.I am looking in on them. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 16:18, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Желание успеховHi Ghirla, I noticed you changed my Желаю Вам успехи to Желаю Вам успехов. While I can see why the latter might make sense, I seem to recall learning and hearing the former, and it gets a fair number of Google hits. Is the former version really incorrect? --Reuben 02:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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Block of RussiannameHi. I made that block because Hillock65 had requested that Russianname stop reverting his talk page, and Russianname refused, reverting it 14 times in one day. The sheer amount of reverting without discussion looked pretty out of control, so I blocked him to prevent the situation from escalating. It's only for 24 hours, but if you know Russianname and feel that's too long, I would be okay with shortening it. Apparently Hillock65 got blocked, too. --Masamage ♫ 17:46, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
ArbComYour comment was not "mysteriously deleted", it was moved to Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Miskin/Evidence by an ArbCom clerk. If you read the rules on top of the evidence page, it explicitly says "Do not edit within the evidence section of any other user". --Mardavich 18:36, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
ApologyHi Ghirla. I in no way deliberately left you out of the list of people who had commented; your opinion is as completely valid as every other contributor. Please chalk that error on my part down to a simple oversight - I didn't mean to offend. Sorry! Neil ╦ 20:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Location of Vändra in 1843: Estonia or Livonia?As you concentrate on pre-20th century Russian history, you might be able to comment on this issue. Is it correct to say that Vändra, the birthplace of Lydia Koidula, was in 1843 located in northern Livonia? ...or should we say southern Estonia? Is mentioning Livonia undue weight? Please comment at Talk:Lydia Koidula. -- Petri Krohn 00:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Pietro BoncompagniThanks for digging up an appropriate categfory. --Wetman 23:37, 9 June 2007 (UTC) Valley of Geysers
Mikhail PavlovichHello, Andrey. Thanks for your interest in the articles I have written on the Russian royals. By early next month I would write about Mikhail Pavlovich, at u request. However, information about him it is scarce. I want to ask for you’re help adding to my Romanov’s articles their name in Cyrillic alphabet. Thanks Miguel 1:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC) Your msg.Thanks for letting me know. No, I don't think it was I who semiprotected it, but it doesn't matter. I'm OK with it being SP'd. ←Humus sapiens 09:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC) Forum ref?May I ask why you use forum as reference for death date? Its not really neccessary as nobody disputes date of death(at other article I wanted only ref for claims of him not being deported to USSR by UK) and as our friend Petri said, its not really good source anyway.--Staberinde 15:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC) Third Perso-Turkic WarHello. With regard to the territorial changes, that is meant for the changes after the war, not during. The Khazars never occupied the territory, they left it (even before the war with Byzantium was completely finished). Also, they invaded Georgia (Iberia) and Caucasus Albania, they never invaded Azerbaijan, which at that time was the area below the Araxes river.Hajji Piruz 20:25, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
AfD EtiquetteRegarding the Estonian Age of Awakening business, please note the following:1. Withdrawing a nomination is not in itself an attempt to close the AfD. You're welcome to add the relevant templates when you withdraw the nomination, but if you don't do that, the AfD remains live until an administrator or another user adds them. I would have closed it myself, but since I was one of the ones recommending the article be kept, I thought it was best to wait for another admin or user to do it. Given that the AfD remained open, moving and commenting out recommendations that other users had made isn't a good idea. Yes, they should probably have noticed that the discussion was no longer active, but the thing was still open. 2. While I can appreciate your dislike for comments and questions being included in an AfD's main page, please note that there's actually no requirement that they be moved elsewhere. 3. In relation to the question you were asked about why the debate had been categorised a certain way, please remember that it wasn't (or at least it shouldn't have been) a judgement on you. Rather, it was a question. The manner in which you replied was abrupt at best. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 23:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Gokturk mapThe one I put up was an approximation of a map in an old Turkish historical atlas, but it might be possible to do an expansion map. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 12:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC) Image:GokturkFlag.pngPlease see Misplaced Pages:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_June_11#Image:GokturkFlag.png. Thanks. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 13:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC) I am flabergasted. --Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 13:21, 19 June 2007 (UTC) You are right, of course, that it is not that critical. The flag has been removed from all the articles that had it (I would be wary of it being re-inserted though). I wonder how many of the other equally fictitious "Flags of the Great Turkish Empires" have been reproduced on WP. I just found the attitude that FOTW was a reliable source by itself, and that slapping the word "alleged" made everything ok, shocking. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 17:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC) Please joinMisplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-06-10 Podilsko-Voskresenska Line. --Kuban Cossack 17:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC) Holocaust trials in Soviet Estonia, 1961Hi Ghirlando. Sorry, I looked, but I wasn't able to find any English-language material on this. Jayjg 15:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC) Ghirla- some pictures that might be relevant. I don't know what the copyright status is but I expect that they expired under Soviet law. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 14:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC) Third Perso-Turkic War
Estonian Orthodox ChurchYou might want to add this, and the linked articles, to your watchlist. Also check this out: Estonian Orthodoxy in the 1990s. The section "Post-Soviet Developments" is an excellent presentation of the Estonian legal position. What do you call a situation, where the state denies a church the right to legally practice religion. In China it would be called "religious prosecution". -- Petri Krohn 04:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC) Ghirla...I'm curious of your bold movings and whether the edits like this are the breach of WP:NCNT. Thanks for any feedback :) --Brand спойт 09:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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Mudéjar GothicHi, Ghirlandajo, long time without knowing about you! I see that you are active again in this wikipedia, Mnogaya leta! I write to you because of a question related to Brick Gothic. I wrote a short section at the end of the article about a kind of Gothic architecture made of brick, the Gothic Mudéjar. I suppose that there is a coined use of the term because of the great quantity of Gothic architecture made of brick around the Baltic Sea. However, "Brick Gothic" is also a clear reference to any style of Gothic made almost enterely of brick, even more if the material is an important part of the aesthetics of the building. If you don´t find proper the inclussion of the section in the article, you could preserve the reference, at least in "See Also", because there is a strong relation between the title and the Mudéjar Gothic, that, as you probably know, had the brick as its main material and aesthetic resort. Yours and welcome again,--Garcilaso 12:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Mo-ho sadNew Gokturk article. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 17:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Lambsdorff portraitHi again. Could you do some clarifying regarding the person on this portrait, if possible? Because of fruitless googling, the caption currently makes no sense for me. Consequently I don't know whether she is Alexandra Nikolayevna Lamsdorf or Maria Ivanovna Lamsdorf. Thanks in advance. --Brand спойт 20:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Comments on Gumilev & Nomadic Empires articlesFor the Lev Gumilev article: If a person both popular and controversial at the same time, this means that the person is influential. Whether his ideas are accepted by the mainstream of academicians or not is another question. For the Nomadic empires article: It's better to summarize each section and make the article more concise and comprehensive, since each section already have wiki-articles. I'd like to do edit but i'm under arbitration related with my conflicts with Tajik. For this reason, i can only comment on this. If you'd like discuss the issues, you're welcome. Regards. E104421 22:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Hahahaha!
(Underscore mine.) —SlamDiego←T 04:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC) Re: Giano's blockVery disappointing, Thebainer. Very. That's not what you were given the tools for. --Ghirla 15:18, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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Re:RollbackNo I only end up in those when someone keeps vandalizing page such as that one. Hmrox 17:27, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry for the confusion about the article. It was mistake and won't happen again. Hmrox 17:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC) Agatha: ThanksI really appreciate your advices. In my particular opinion (not much important, of course!!) i think your theory about kievan origin of Agatha is true. Sorry if I had any wrong thing in the text of Agatha in wikipedia; i tried to divided the kievan theory in two parts: daughter or sister of Yaroslav the Wise. If this was wrong, i really appreciate if you think is better a correction, do it. Thanks again and sorry for my bad english (im peruvian and a tried to learn fast!!) Aldebaran69 23:04, 16 June 2007 (UTC) CranksYeah, we’re not talking about legitimate POV disputes here, we’re talking complete lunacy. The guy is quarrelling with the most basic linguistic terms, such as “loan word” and “borrowing”, as well as the scholarly history of the Armenian language. I could have waded in on that talk page but I couldn’t see the point. He’s not some ingénu who’s made an honest mistake and will accept correction, he’s obviously there to push his own crank theory come what may. Reasoning with him is a waste of everybody’s time. The only solution is to remove him from the topic area. Since this is an encyclopaedia, such editors are far more harmful than casual vandals or hot-tempered users who engage in a bit of mudslinging behind the scenes. We need to have sanctions against editors who persistently and deliberately violate policies like WP:NPOV and WP:NOR in order to add fringe or extremist content here. --Folantin 17:37, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
CategoryYou're right... I'll do my best. Regards PHG 20:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC) Occupation of Latvia 1940–1945Is there some off-site communication and coordination going on here? See history. -- Petri Krohn 15:30, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
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WP:RFC/U on Petri Krohn filedYou might be interested to know that Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Petri Krohn has been filed. Digwuren 20:10, 19 June 2007 (UTC) Need help on article Destructive creativityDear Ghirlandajo, I am new to Misplaced Pages, so my entry into the "Sherwood Forest" of rules, codes, people, and articles begins with the first test. May I ask you kindly to have a look at my article titled Destructive creativity? It was placed on DYK , then nominated to AfD. I don't know people, albeit I am attuned to comments, made some updates, still need help. Your attention is highly appreciated. Sincerely, Steveshelokhonov 10:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC) LA, CA. PS: Hermitage, fab Velázquez. Sargon of Akkadis now an FAC. Since you did some work on this article I thought you might be interested. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 15:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
user page questionReading your comments on user talk:Jimbo Wales about user:EVula's user page and his collection of diffs (which, needless to say, I find hilarious although I believe I understand your concerns wrt new editors seeing stuff like that), I wondered what you might think of my own user page. In case you decide to drop by occasionally, if you're not using Firefox, please try here if the page is not displaying correctly. Btw: I read your thoughts on tendentious editing and the division of editors in insiders and outsiders, and I really like the way you soft-spokenly and matter-of-factly tell the uncomfortable truth. —AldeBaer 13:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Treaty of ShimodaHello, you recently edited Treaty of Shimoda. Your edits made the article more encyclopedic and thus more neutral, many thanks for that! I also noticed you claimed some things mentioned to be 'patent lies'. The (agressively) clashing of Russians with Japanese (vice verse as well of course) has been documented in some sources, which I have referenced in the talk page now. Feel free to post a source as to why these are patent lies, so we could improve the article in a critical manner. Keep up the good work. T.Jansen 16:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Name-callingI know you don't want me posting on your talk page, but making baseless accusations directed at other editors is not something you should be doing. This is your final warning regarding personal attacks. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 01:32, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Featured pictureCongratulations, and thanks for nominating it. Raven4x4x 02:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Belated Award
More interesting suggestion?Extent of medieval Kannada literature Not sure what you mean. Do you mean a better hook or better topic?Dineshkannambadi 16:49, 24 June 2007 (UTC) I have changed the hook completely to reflect something unique about medieval Kannada literature.Dineshkannambadi 16:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the restructuring.Dineshkannambadi 18:28, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Matthias GrünewaldYes, it is terrible. I'm summering in C15 Provence at the moment, but will give it a quick treatment soon, & return later, I hope. I don't have much specific material on him that I can think of, but it won't be hard to improve on the current state. Johnbod 22:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
History of Russian Manchuria templateI think the general idea is OK, but the implementation (both content- and technical-wise) indeed leaves much to be desired. Also, the template should definitely not be present in all articles which are remotely related to the subject, but only in those listed in the template itself (again, the list in the template could use some refining). I think Whlee is gradually moving towards understanding this, but if you want to give him a nudge, that might speed up the process a little. I do have this template on my to-(re-)do list, but I don't really know when I'll get a chance to work on it. If you beat me to it, I sure ain't gonna complain :) Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:47, 25 June 2007 (UTC) DYK
Thank you for putting this forward, Andrey. We work well together! I intend to write a brief article shortly on an American conspiracy to kidnap George III in 1775. I'll pass it over to you as soon as it is ready. Clio the Muse 23:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC) PS On the Suvorov question I added some material that you might want to work into the article. Clio the Muse 03:22, 26 June 2007 (UTC) Pointless junkWhile I agree this is pointless junk message which I'd have ignored, please don't reverts edits to my talkpage; I am perfectly capable of ignoring trash or dealing with perceived PAs myself. Thank you, -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 17:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Template:World War IIHi! I probably need your help or comment regarding dispute occured in Template:World War II where user Piotr Mikołajski inserted the USSR in a list of Axis powers mentioning Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. The template consequently was protected by administrator according with his request. The issue was already discussed in the talk page and it seems that consensus was established not to include the USSR in the list of Axis powers.--Dojarca 20:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
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more childish patriotscould you chime in at Chaldean again? I don't want to break the 3RR over this (even though this may be rollback-able), but I do not think we should allow this sort of thing. Even patriots are required to use their brains on Misplaced Pages. dab (𒁳) 09:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Bibliotheca PalatinaThanks for adopting this. I created it as it were with my left hand as a very quick writeup; it's looking good now. dab (𒁳) 13:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Looted Art ArticleDear Ghirlandajo, you added an NPOV tag to the Looted art article without describing the reasons/participating at the Talk page as requested by the NPOV rules. I assume, based on your edits, that you do not agree with the looting of the Sistine Madonna - nevertheless I believe that the Sistine Madonna serves as an important icon of the lets call it "confiscation" of German art collections by the Soviets, simply because of its iconic value. I even took into consideration your concerns and added a proper reference that extensively describes the Soviet Looting of Germany - focusing on the Sistine Madonna. The article even uses the very same terms for the headline and some sub chapters "Soviet Looting", "Sistine Madonna". I understand that such facts - as any truth - are not always comfortable to anyone, but it is nevertheless part of our shared history. The claim that the Soviet Union did not "steal", "plunder" or "loot" is extensively discussed in contemporay literature - its a myth. That notion is for instance discussed in "Mythmaking in the New Russia: Politics and Memory During the Yeltsin Era" by By Kathleen E. Smith, Available: http://books.google.com/books?id=hXZEPJQcWLYC&pg=PA70&dq=dresden+gallery+stolen&sig=3yEQ9_FVthWEvwMtP5jIYFug8kg#PPA70,M1 - the Time Magazine, also referenced in your article describes one such perspective: "Now Russian nationalists are getting into the act, demanding that their government stand firm on the issue and give nothing back. One may not agree with them, but their arguments are at least understandable. Suppose you are a patriotic Russian in your 60s. Your childhood was passed amid the horrors and suffering of the Great Patriotic War, in which millions died to defend the Motherland against Nazism. Then you survived Stalin, watched the utopian fantasies of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat go into sclerosis in the 1960s and '70s, and saw the imperium collapse in the '80s. Today the yellow arches of McDonald's shed their plastic gleam on Red Square, and gangsterism rules instead of socialist virtue. You know the Nazis inflicted incalculable damage on your nation, with the intent to obliterate all traces of 'Slavic culture' from the earth. Why, in this time of collapsed dreams and national humiliation, should you listen to Germans preaching about restitution?" (I could add more references if necessary but I rely on our goodwill) ... I understand that you like to uphold certain values, dreams and notions - as we all do - but I do not think that we want wikipedia to become a safe place for soviet, nazi, russian, german, american nationalistic propaganda ... Please refrain from deleting referenced statements from other editors just because they might appear inconvenient, and lets instead work together. How about adding proper references to the Nazi plunder of Europe (I actually started it) or the American plunder and looting (Meadows, Quedlinburg, Iraq ...?) Thank you, have a nice day, and Bolschoe Spasibo. (My russian isnt as good anymore ... :) )Okinawasan 13:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Amber Room ImageAnother addition: I just received "The Amber Room. The Fate of the Worlds Greatest Lost Treasure" by Catherine Scott-Clark and Adrian Levy (Nonfiction) from Amazon. As you might expect i kept looking for the photograph you added to the Looted Art article and which is still included in the Amber Room article. On page 60 the book reproduces the photograph (actually two) and a proper description: "Vica Plauda leaves the room. She returns with a tattered folder ... In our hands is the only surviving colour record positive of the 'Eight Wonder of the World' ... made in 1917 by a Russian officer who fled with it to Paris." Vica Plauda is sourced as the head of the Photographic Section of the Catherine Palace, the image is already from 1917, and the office fled to Russia ... :) (On this page http://www.geo.uw.edu.pl/HOBBY/AMBER/amberroom.htm, Warszaw University, it says at "Tsarskoe Syolo in Russia, the state in 1940", I believe your descriptions are wrong and I leave it up to you to doublecheck, doublecheck, and change the misleading edits. Thank you. Poka.Okinawasan 14:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC) BarnstarThanks very much - I am most honoured! I'm looking at the BP, & haven't forgotten Matthias G. Johnbod 19:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC) templateImproving it shouldn't be a problem, though I honestly don't know if I can do much about it's abuse. I haven't dared too much correct the abuse of the religious templates like {{anglicanism}}. Circeus 22:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC) DYK
TheodoreMany thanks for the star! In fact I was worried no one would so much as read the article, so it's particularly gratifying. --Javits2000 21:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC) Great Work
An article which you started, or significantly expanded, snokhachestvo, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 23:06, 30 June 2007 (UTC) DYK
OstromirI did check them all quickly (not counting) on Google scholar. Ostromir was clearly more in the balance than the others, though some are for "Ostromir Gospel Book" & some you can't tell. I'll move it back if you feel strongly, but I'm in no doubt it should really be "gospels", as "gospel" implies that, like the Stonyhurst Gospel, it only contains one of the four. Johnbod 01:11, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Great catch on Romanos II, btw! Johnbod 01:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC) ThanksAnd you my friend - I thought they'd driven you off for good a few months ago. I'm actually officially still having a breather, but the weather's been shocking. take care --Mcginnly | Natter 23:46, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
To kidnap a king?Andrey, the page on Stephen Sayre, and the alleged American plot against George III, is now newly born. It was conceived as a result of a previous question on the Humanities Desk. I would be pleased if you could cast your eye over it, and make any amendments you consider necessary. Some illustration would be useful. All the very best. Anastasia, aka Clio the Muse 00:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
CoughUseful ? <splutter> <choke>. Well, if you say so! Bishonen | talk 12:02, 4 July 2007 (UTC).
Barnstar
I appreciate the kind words re:Sargon... It was a chore to get that sorted out but I think it is going to pass FA now. Been meaning to start on Shuekuei but been short on time as well. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 14:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC) Suvorov's Italian and Swiss expedition
Quote citation{{citation needed}} tags were added to the two quotes in Suvorov's Italian and Swiss expedition. It's generally agreed that citations should always be cited with footnotes. Do you think you can fix that? Circeus 20:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
What's up?Ghirla, I noticed your back-and-forth on one of the administrative boards today. Then I saw this and the situation has me shaking my head. You're an incredibly productive editor and I not only appreciate your work for the site, I'm grateful to you as one of the people who mentored me when I was new. A lot of people have respected you as a senior Wikipedian. In my own personal definition, respect means worthy of emulation. You've been around long eough to know site policies and standards better than I do and - heck, we're all human - sometimes it feels like the most honest thing to do is to mince no words before hitting the save page button. So I've got a question for you. Is the standard you're setting right now the one you want everyone to follow? If it is then I think that would make Misplaced Pages a bitter place. You've proven you can build the project under those conditions, but most of the rest of us slow down or get derailed. The dilemma where you're concerned is that your actions look like a request to other editors to stop respecting you. If I had seen those threads when I was a new editor and if I had conducted myself the same way, I'd probably have collected a block history and quit the site instead of becoming an administrator. You have that much effect on people. Whether or not you realize it, you do. Now I'm a bit of a basketball fan and I like analogies. So I'll put the matter this way: who would you rather be, Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant? Durova 22:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
HonestyThis was a perfectly honest comment. This is not the first I see you obfuscating a perfectly valid request for citation by improperly reversing the burden of evidence. Circeus 23:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Symeon of Polotsk
Vertep
Mirepoix"The three ingredients key to a particular cuisine, vary from culture to culture…" is irrelevant to the article, which is not about any combinations of three ingredients characteristic of various cuisines (which are not called "mirepoix" (see the removed "Holy Trinity" language), but specifically about mirepoix (= onions + carrots + celery.) See talk.Proabivouac 18:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Vitebsk revisitedConsidering how we first met, rather funny: Talk:Fire of Moscow (1812). When I find the time, I may edit Alexander I of Russia later. --Pan Gerwazy 21:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC) Fernando Santos Costa
Your comment would be appreciated
Gunnhild Mother of KingsGiven that her husband and sons both had contacts and activities in Rus' and Bjarmland, I thought you might be interested in this new article (still needs a lot of expansion.) Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 19:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC) Basque witch trials
Stephen Sayre
Historical mapsYour comments would be welcome. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 16:21, 10 July 2007 (UTC) SpartocidsPresent for you in your email box. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 18:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject Reference Desk Article CollaborationHi Ghirla. I just wanted to inform you that I have been logging the results of your productive RD-to-article partnership with Clio at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Reference Desk Article Collaboration. The project itself is not overly active at the moment (indeed, you, Clio and I appear to be the only people keeping it alive!), but my objective is to have a ongoing record of the tangible, positive effect that RD has had on the whole project. I think it is both informative and important to be able to demonstrate that the RD is more than just a talking shop. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know and to ensure you didn't mind your sterling work being "claimed" by a collective (that essentially consists of you both!) Rockpocket 01:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC) Maria BochkarevaIt seems like this article was written without any reference to how she is perceived in Russia today (Russian Misplaced Pages has almost nothing about her). Would you look it over? Balcer 21:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
RE:Monastery of the Panaghia HodegetriaHallo Ghirla, the monastery is cited on the sources as Hodegon (it is the word "Hodegetria" that comes from Hodegon, meaning "the monastery of the Guides"). Moreover, it is not a legend that in the monastery there was a spring. The structures which host the spring are actually the only remains of the complex. Finally, I could find mention of its rebuilding by Michael III nowhere in my sources. Just one last thing: if you agree, I will create a redirect named Church of the Panaghia Hodegetria (Constantinople) and I will put there the category 'Churches of Instanbul'. This will make the categorisation of this stub consistent with that of the rest of the articles about the kilise camiler in Istanbul. What do you think about it? Many Thanks and Regards, Alex2006 08:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC) July 12th DYK
Gunnhild Mother of KingsGiven your diverse interests I thought you might enjoy this new article. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 18:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Task Force
Psdubow 22:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Re: Anglo-French war 1557I suspect you've already found out the answer, but just in case you haven't: it's the Italian War of 1551-1559. (See, in particular, the Battle of St. Quentin (1557).) Kirill 22:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Re: Russian IconsHe's wrong, and if you agree with him, you are too. The information presented is accurate. --FactsAndHonesty 23:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC) DYK
DYK
Infobox Russian cityI don't disagree about Gelendzhik as it was the very first article I tried this template in, so it's there mostly as a result of testing. Feel free to move it to talk (so it could be moved back when the article grows in size). I don't, however, agree that the template should be removed "on sight". Infoboxes are useful in that they provide the most basic reference information about a place at a glance; often information in the infobox meets all the needs a casual reader might have. I don't know if you noticed, but (apart from Gelendzhik) I never add this infobox to articles which already did not have some other similar infobox (often of a much inferior quality) and I would not, of course, purposefully add it to an article so short that an infobox would be much longer than the actual article.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 00:11, 14 July 2007 (UTC) EiorgiomuginiHello Ghirlandajo! This week I enjoyed the privilege having a discussion with Eiorgiomugini about Shiliuguo Chunqiu, see . I was rather shocked by his incivility. So I did a small research about his way having discussions with other people. After reading your remarks on I am convinced this is just the way that guy talks. You are right, he thinks he owns the articles he has written. Furthermore I think phrases like You could spend your time adding more material about Russian subjects rather than following me around all day long directed to you or So go ahead why bother to make those nasty remarks here and there after my remark I mostly write articles on Chinese and Central-Asian history on Dutch wikipedia give an insight how this fellow thinks. No I will not get out of his way and I think you should treat him the same way as I did in my final remark on . Long live Monty Python. Finally, do you think I can be of any use to ? I don't think so, because this is a rather different dispute. Greetings from a fellow sufferer, Guss2 18:20, 14 July 2007 (UTC) LadogaI have to disagree with this move and with the subsequent redirect. True, most of the articles that currently link to Ladoga mean to link to Staraya Ladoga, but the total number of articles linking this way is quite small, and readers would be much better served if those links were straightened out to link directly to where they are supposed to (i.e., to "Staraya Ladoga"). Folks typing in "Ladoga" in a search box are as likely to expect landing in the article about the lake as in the article about the village. Having "Ladoga" redirect to the dab page covers both contingencies while redirecting it to some arbitrarily chosen article from the dab list is a clumsy and incomplete solution at best.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 22:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorting by nationalityHi Ghirlandajo, your edits on the Estophobia AfD like this one are unacceptable. This is disruptive, and you will be blocked if you persist. Please stop. Thanks, Crum375 13:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC) |