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==Evidence presented by {FT2}== | ==Evidence presented by {FT2}== |
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Evidence presented by Lsi john
DPeterson & RalphLender - WP:CANVAS & WP:GAME & puppetry
Sample of behavior:
After their post on AN/I against FatherTree failed to garner support (here), DPeterson and RalphLender opened 3 virtually identical threads on the admin boards at the same time (here, here and here). Each falsely claimed prior 'admin support' (from a non-admin), in an apparent effort to 'kick start' their threads. Ironically these 3 noticeboard posts claim WP:CANVAS against FatherTree, and actually appear to be an attempt to canvass support and game the system. And by acting in concert it appears to be a form of puppetry.
When I realized they had failed to notify FatherTree about any of the posts, I notified FatherTree (here). DPeterson's responsed by attempting to involve another admin, claiming that I was 'unhelpful' (here).
I suggested to DPeterson that cross-posting multiple open threads constituted canvassing (here), and recommended that he close two of the threads (here), DPeterson replied
" ...Since each one gets a variety of comments from a variety of editors it may make sense to keep all open... -DPeterson" (here).
Shell (admin) ultimately realized that multiple threads were open, and closed one on AN (here), and later also closed the other two.
DPeterson copied Shell's AN comment to both AN/I threads, and misrepresented her as supporting his charges (here and here).
RalphLender, copied Shell's AN comment to the article talkpage here and falsely claimed:
"... the administrator did find that the issue of FatherTree knowinlgy making false accusations of sockpuppetry is real and valid ." -RalphLender
Shell responded with a categorical denial (here):
"Whoa - I did not support your accusation; I said if he was doing it to warn him and then let me know if he continues. You would need to provide some kind of proof to back up those accusations and his continuing after your warning. That in no way was a finding that FatherTree had done anything improper. Also, I specifically noted that the accusations of canvassing against FatherTree were false"-Shell
Another time, when I was attempting mediation on Shell's page, SamDavidson attempted to involve yet another outside party, with whom he presumably thought I was in conflict (here).
- Response to DPeterson
In spite of his claims, there were THREE simultaneous threads on the noticeboards (two opened under the DPeterson account and one opened under the RalphLender account), in addition to the one he filed that 'rolled off' the board due to lack of interest. He used this same 'it disappeared' excuse to justify opening the multiple threads and subsequently refused to close them or ask that they be closed. Accidental opening could be written off on Good Faith. Refusing to close any of them, shows intention. Peace.Lsi john 18:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
- Response to MarkWood
Having never edited in any of the articles in question, nor defended any edits to them, his claim that I am a meatpuppet seems to be a last ditch effort to accuse as many people as possible. When combined with the fact that the committee members have access to my real identitiy (and I believe also that of FT2), MarkWood's claims are even further seen for what they are.
Evidence presented by StokerAce
There Have Been Repeated Personal Attacks on ACT and its Members
There is an apparent effort by DPeterson and a number of other editors to denigrate Advocates for Children in Therapy (ACT). In an early example, user AWeidman made a number of allegations against Jean Mercer, one of ACT's leaders, calling her, among other things, a "fringe advocate." here AWeidman was criticized by an admin for his remarks, which the admin referred to as "disturbing." here
The admin's criticism occurred on April 27, 2006. Soon after, on May 20, 2006, user DPeterson opened an account. here (With regard to the relationship between DPeterson and AWeidman, I will discuss this as part of a separate assertion).
DPeterson also had nasty things to say about ACT. For example, on June 30, 2006, a little over a month after he created the account, DPeterson also called ACT a "fringe group" here
Then, on July 21, 2006, DPeterson created a Misplaced Pages page about ACT, in which he said ACT was "not part of the mainstream" here
The current Misplaced Pages page for ACT continues to have disparaging statements about the group, which seem designed to impugn ACT's reputation. For example, the page says:
"The group is led by Linda Rosa, RN, Executive Director; her spouse Larry Sarner, Administrative Director; and Jean Mercer, Chairman of Professional Board of Advisors, none of whom are licensed mental health providers."
This statement tries to undermine ACT by suggesting that its leaders are unqualified because they are not "licensed mental health providers." However, there are obviously other ways to have expertise in this area besides being a "licensed mental health provider." According to her resume, one of the ACT leaders, Jean Mercer, is an academic who has published many, many papers in this and other fields. here Thus, it is not appropriate to make deceptive statements like this on the ACT page.
The page also says:
"While ACT seeks to "mobilize" various groups, professional medical and psychiatric organizations such as the American Medical Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association and the National Association of Social Workers have not taken positions on ACT's work, nor is there any evidence that those groups use ACT's materials; although these groups do seek and use input from various other advocacy groups."
This statement seems designed to imply that the major organizations listed have a negative opinion of ACT. However, there is no evidence to suggest that this is in fact the case. The idea that any of the listed organizations should "take positions" on ACT's work is not a sensible one. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of non-profit advocacy groups like ACT around the country. The organizations in question cannot possibly be aware of, and "take positions" on, all of the groups. To single out ACT as a group for which these organizations have not "taken a position" (assuming this is even true, which has not been demonstrated) seems to be an attempt put ACT in a bad light. Furthermore, there is no evidence that ACT has ever tried to influence the listed organizations. Attempts to discuss this with Dpeterson and others (such as RalphLender and Dr. Becker-Weidman) on the talk page have been met with unreasonable, cryptic and stonewalling responses. (See, e.g. here and here)
Despite the fairly clear bias in these descriptions of ACT, Dpeterson and others immediately restore them whenever they are deleted. See, e.g., deleted here and restored here.
The Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy page was created as an advertisement by one of its practitioners
The DDP page was created by user AWeidman (here). As far as I know, it is undisputed that user AWeidman is Dr. Arthur Becker-Weidman. See the signature "Dr. Becker-Weidman" here
Dr. Becker-Weidman is the head of the Center for Family Development, which runs a commercial therapy practice using DDP. (here)
Thus, Dr. Becker-Weidman runs a commercial therapy practice involving DDP and created a Misplaced Pages page for DDP touting its benefits. Note that the bottom of the original DDP page has a link titled "Source for information on treatment," with a link to the Center for Family Development web site.
There is some evidence that Dr. Becker-Weidman is somehow related to user DPeterson. DPeterson once had a sign in error, which gave the IP address as 68.66.160.228. (here) IP 68.66.160.228 checks out to Buffalo, NY. Dr. Becker-Weidman's center is just outside of Buffalo, NY. See bottom of this page Also, user AWeidman has edited IP 68.66.160.228's contributions (related to ACT and Dr. Becker-Weidman's Center for Family Development) within seven minutes of their original posting (see here)
Since the original creation of the DDP page, DPeterson and others have resisted any effort to present DDP in a neutral way.
As seen on the talk page, attempts to make the page more neutral have been completely rejected by DPeterson and several others. See(here)
One neutral editor tagged DDP page as a fansite (here). Within 15 minutes, MarkWood reverted (here)
Another editor tagged it as an advert (here). Within 33 minutes, DPeterson reverted. (here)
As a result, the DDP page continues to makes claims that are completely unsupported. The entire introduction reads like a marketing piece. If there is to be a page, it should be based on references to neutral, credible articles. Dr. Becker-Weidman has published several pieces on the topic. If they are used ,it should be noted that he is a commercial practitioner of the therapy, not an objective observer.
Response to DPeterson
Below, DPeterson asserts that ACT "may be" a fringe group due to their opposition to physical torture and abuse resulting from attachment therapy. He claims that no mainstream body supports ACT's view. This has been discussed on the talk pages, and DPeterson's claim is clearly false. To cite just one example, the U.S. Senate has passed a resolution stating, among other things: "between 1995 and 2005, at least four children in the United States have died from ... forms of attachment therapy." (here) This statement was made in the context of condemning rebirthing therapy, which was described as a "form" of attachment therapy. Based on this, it seems clear that ACT is very much in the mainstream.
Response to JonesRD's QWERTY Keyboard Point
Below, JonesRD says that the spelling errors referred to by FT2 are simply common errors with the QWERTY keyboard. According to Misplaced Pages, QWERTY "is the most common modern-day keyboard layout on English-language computer and typewriter keyboards." Yet virtually the only people in the world to make these errors are DPeterson and the others mentioned by FT2, and they all make these errors frequently. I think the conclusion here is fairly obvious.
Response to MarkWood's allegations of "Coordinated Efforts"
MarkWood's allegations of "coordinated efforts" are without merit. Just because a few of us have agreed from time to time does not mean we have "coordinated" anything. I agree with some of DPeterson's edits on pages outside of attachment therapy, but that doesn't mean I am engaged in a "coordinated effort" with him.
Evidence presented by Jean Mercer
Refusal of discussion and ill effects on article
About a year ago,DPeterson and associates edited my contributions to such an extent that I stopped attempting to edit the articles and confined my participation to Talk. I thought some discussion might encourage compromise, and that I could present queries that would lead to a more productive approach. However, my requests for a rationale for claims were never answered except by repetition of the original statement.The group of editors in question practices proof by assertion and perseveration rather than by reasoning and analysis of evidence.
The deleterious effects of this approach have been 1) to insert Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy (DDP) into a number of articles about childhood mental health issues, giving the naive reader the impression that DDP is a leading form of treatment, whereas it is in fact little-known, poorly documented as to details, and weakly substantiated, and 2) to include statements insisting that DDP is an evidence-based practice (EBP), an evaluation not congruent with the nature of published reports about its efficacy.
DPeterson and his associates have persistently refused to discuss either the status of DDP or the reasoning behind their claims of an evidentiary foundation, going so far at one point as to declare, quite incorrectly, that publication in a peer-reviewed journal indicates the EBP categorization. I am at a loss as to whether they are actually unaware of the issues here, or whether they find it convenient to cloud the discussion by incorrect statements.
DPeterson and associates have repeatedly attacked me personally
It would be excessively time-consuming for everyone for me to list the personal attacks I have experienced when trying to edit the articles in question. These began in 2006 with a misstatement about my sexual identity and the birth of my children, made by an individual who may or may not be among the parties to this discussion (this was in fact my introduction to Misplaced Pages). On many later occasions, and culminating with a statement by Ralph Lender on 22 May 2007 , this group has stated that I am unqualified to contribute to the topic. A particular issue has been the propriety of my citation of my own articles and books, published in professional journals and by legitimate academic presses. For example, on 20 July 2006, Ralph Lender referred to "your own book, which is merely a bit of broadside and polemic for the fringe group", and advised me that "citing your own book" is equivalent to NPOV.
DPeterson has attacked my publications and ACT
DPeterson has also attacked my publications, stating incorrectly that "Attachment Therapy On Trial" was published by Advocates for Children in Therapy rather than by a legitimate academic press, and claiming that no one cites ACT materials, among which he has included this book; in fact, the book was cited by the Chaffin task force report, as well as receiving discussion and reviews in "Scientific American" and in "Contemporary Psychology" (Vol. 49, Suppl. 14) My later book,also noted on the ACT web site but also not published by the organization, "Understanding Attachment," was reviewed in the "Times Literary Supplement" (Oct. 6, 2006).
Unless an arbitrator specifically asks me to provide information to support my expertise or published work in this area, I do not intend to waste everyone's time doing so. On request, I will provide an up-to-date c.v.The one DPeterson and associates are using is several years old.
It does strike me as paradoxical that I'm said to have been able to build a career from my association with an organization that DPeterson and others claim to be unknown and without merit, and that the organization is said to have benefited from my publications, which are dismissed as trivial.
Response to SamDavidson's comments
Of course, Mercerj was me; I apologize but I must have accidentally used my college library user name. But I find it quite unbelievable that SamDavidson deliberately draws attention to an exchange full of personal attacks on me and my family and with no connection whatever to the substantive issues in the articles.
Response to RonJohnson's comments
RonJohnson seems to have forgotten my contribution to "human bonding", which one of his colleagues pointed out as an exception to my statement that I have not edited articles.
Evidence presented by Shotwell
DPeterson et al. engage in meat-puppetry
- DPeterson, RalphLender, JonesRD, SamDavison, JohnsonRon, and User:MarkWood provide unfailing support for each other. This support extends to inane issues such as redundant see also links. Most importantly, these accounts have uniform opinions regarding Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy (DDP). Each account has either inserted or defended claims concerning DDP into a large number of articles. (e.g. Reactive Attachment Disorder, Child welfare, Psychotherapy, Child abuse, Adoption, PTSD, Cognitive behavioral therapy)
- The accounts of DPeterson, RalphLender, JonesRD, SamDavison, JohnsonRon, and User:MarkWood were all created in May-June of 2006. . At this time there was mediation concerning John Bowlby between AWeidman and Sarner. This dispute centered around whether or not Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy ought to be mentioned in the article. Each of the accounts named above immediately involved themselves with the dispute and sided with AWeidman. (AWeidman's account has been inactive since his off-wiki dispute with Jean Mercer was pointed out ) In the following July, they all participated in this afd, which is demonstrative of their similar editing patterns.
- Prior to account creation, there had been a handful of ip editors who sided with AWeidman in this dispute. They made a small number of contributions, but each ip resolves to the the New York area where AWeidman's clinic is based. 68.66.160.22866.238.216.11966.238.222.3866.238.223.245. Both AWeidman and DPeterson have added their signatures to edits by 68.66.160.228. The other ip editors made one or two edits, each a WP:COI allegation against User:Sarner.
- DPeterson has also added his sig to an edit by 66.238.222.38 (ip mentioned in the above point).
- The accounts in question make highly similar syntax errors. For example, they very frequently use too many apostrophes when bolding text. Additionally, they have previously shown a uniform inability to properly link to policies. For example, they link to Verifiable instead of Misplaced Pages:Verifiability or Assume good faith instead of WP:AGF. Since the time this has been pointed out, they have varied in their ability to properly link to the wikipedia namespace. See the suspected sock puppet report for some example diffs.
- This set of accounts uses their large numbers to give the create false consensus. This is evident in day to day talk page discussions. Note, for example, the astounding number of straw polls set up by DPeterson, et al. Some examples include:
DPeterson et al. will not discuss
- This set of accounts uses their large numbers to set up echo chambers of irrelevance. This behavior stalls discussion and has been occurring with increasing frequency. See, for example, how this discussion degenerates into repeated WP:COI allegations. The same thing happens here and here.
- This group of accounts subverts meaningful conversation by parroting each others' arguments and ignoring legitimate concerns. In this discussion, for example, they decide to remove an important source on the basis of an amazon.com user review. Note how they refuse to address my primary concern about using an amazon.com user review to remove a source . Another example can be found in this lengthy discussion. I started with what I consider to be legitimate points worthy of reasonable responses. Instead, I got responses such as this and this. The entirety of the previous discussions consisted of them repeatedly saying something along the line of "these sources are verifiable, we have already addressed this". This is characteristic of their talk page tactics. Essentially, they all repeat "You're wrong and we've already told you you're wrong". This behavior is seen across the talk pages of Advocates for Children in Therapy, Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy, Attachment disorder, Attachment Therapy, Candace Newmaker, and John Bowlby.
- Another talk page tactic is to severely misrepresent sources during discussions. For example, here DPeterson heavily paraphrases a source and dramatically changes the author's intent. (Original source at Sagepub). This has been repeated by the other accounts. This misrepresentation of sources commonly occurs in the article namespace (for example, Advocates for Children in Therapy).
- These talk page tactics are coupled with the strong tendency to immediately revert changes they do not like. In reverting, they refuse to address concerns or they make references to WP:OWN and WP:CON. The histories of the relevant articles make this allegation clear; see two characteristic reverts here and here. Their willingness to revert has kept the attachment therapy related pages static for the last year.
Response to RalphLender
Forum shopping
- RalphLender has stated that the issues have been resolved in mediation and "re-raised by the same group of editors when the outcome was not to their liking". He uses the following three mediation attempts as supporting evidence.
- Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-05-21 John Bowlby: ended because the mediator resiged.
- Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-18 Sarner's reverts-edits of Bowlby and Candace Newmaker: (initiated by DPeterson) was merged into Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-07 Advocates for Children in Therapy.
- Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-07 Advocates for Children in Therapy: ended because I withdrew.
- DPeterson, JonesRD, JohnsonRon, and MarkWood have drawn similarly erroneous and improbable conclusions from the failed mediation attempts.
Response to response
- RalphLender claims that an administrator raised the issue of StokerAce and Sarner being sock-puppets. This allegation was made by non-administrator User:Nwwaew (the mediator in that case). This accusation was made on the basis that Sarner and Stokerace use all capital edit summaries. The edit summaries were merely the section headers to which they were responding --- all capital section headers by DPeterson et al.
- RalphLender erroneously claims that his AN/I post was "different" than DPeterson's. He has previously acknowledged that he copy/pasted DPeterson's AN/I post.
Response to MarkWood
MarkWood has copied his evidence section from the other sections and provided arbitrary diffs. (e.g. this diff). In copy/pasting, he ends up making absurd assertions. This bizarre behavior highlights the disruptive nature of these accounts -- even before arbcom.
Response to JohnsonRon
Editors work together
- JohnsonRon provides an edit count tally for each editor and states "For each editor I list the article or talk page and edits to that, along with unrelated edits". His table says that I have edited 106 articles outside of attachment therapy related pages. I have made roughly 3300 edits. His numbers appear to be random. JonesRD has previously supplied a seemingly random edit count assessment. Despite the incomprehensible and random nature of this table, JonesRD and DPeterson thought the table was informative.
- He has listed User:KipMiller. KipMiller has just recently appeared on John Bowlby and is not related to this dispute.Special:Contributions/KipMiller
- JohnsonRon also lists Maypole. Maypole is a sock of HeadleyDown, who followed Fainites from NLP.
Evidence presented by Fainites
DPeterson et al own articles to control their content
DPeterson, MarkWood,SamDavidson, RalphLender, JohnsonRon and JonesRD work together to ‘own’ attachment pages. They maintain Dr Becker-Weidmans views, edits and assertions in the related articles. There is a substantial content dispute, but it is the way they own and control the pages and swamp opposition that is the main problem.
AWeidman, AKA Dr Becker-Weidman and Dr Art, the main proponent of Dyadic Develomental Psychotherapy, edited in his own name and as IP 68.66.160.228 from 4th December 2005 Neither he nor DPeterson, knew how to sign in and added and linked their names. DPeterson has also edited as the same IP Here that same IP, writing in support of DDP, claims to be a ‘disinterested person and licensed therapist providing services for children and adolescents’
The methods used are reverts, insistence that any edit has to be agreed (despite their overwhelming consensus), polls, repetition rather than answering points raised, personal attacks and accusations of vandalism and attacks on other editors motivation. Numerous diffs can be provided, but it is evident from the talkpages.
- Ignoring ‘consensus’ when it suits. The 'consensus' version excluded this list wherein DDP is listed amongst some evidence based therapies. It was subsequently added.
- Here a 'consensus' version which included this passage from the Taskforce had Becker-Weidman added into the cites very shortly after it was posted. ]
Use of articles to promote DDP
Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy
Started by AWeidman, (who subsequently claimed copyright)
Here IP 68 and AWeidman work together to remove criticism from the talkpage
DPeterson arrives June 2006. Adds claims re DDP and removes critical edits as does RalphLender when he arrives in July 2006. SamDavidson and MarkWood arrive on 21st and 22nd July adding links
DPeterson adds a statement that DDP is in compliance with the Taskforce report (Chaffin/APSAC) and more claims On 17th October 2006,
The article then stagnates until 10th May 2007 when DPeterson puts in Craven & Lee in support of the statement that DDP is evidence based (which this study does not claim).
The way this is achieved is by the concerted control of the article by the use of reverts, polls and ‘consensus'. The 6 editors all act in total support and agreement. This can all be clearly seen on the talkpage.
'Reactive Attachment Disorder Article'
This is cited as another example of the effect these editors have on articles they 'own'. Until the 4th December 2005 the article contained a 'controversy' section that dealt with the controversial diagnosis and treatments of ‘attachment therapy’ based around the Institute for Attachment and Child Development. This is a centre whose name is well known to those who take an interest in the attachment therapy controversy. On the 4th December 2005 IP 68 put in a series of edits that removed mention of this centre and inserted DDP in glowing terms as standard, successful and evidence based. It is also stated that other treatments for Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD) are ineffective. also a link to Becker-Weidmans clinic Despite the efforts of individual editors it looks similar today, defended by the 6 editors who succeeded Becker-Weidman.
Attachment disorder, Attachment Therapy, Advocates for Children in Therapy, John Bowlby, Candace Newmaker etc. show very similar talkpage and editing patterns. Diffs can be supplied if required.
DPeterson et al frequently breach the rules on sources
Examples of alterations of quotations.
- Removal of a section on age regression from a quote given by a source stating age regression is key to AT, and for which Becker-Weidman was criticised by the Taskforce.
- At 23.32 (last edit) a sentence is removed by DPeterson from another editors proposed article edit, without comment, making it look as if the study (on holding therapy) was quoted approvingly rather than criticised. At 23.34 he votes on it.
- The repeated insertion of Becker-Weidman into an extensive paraphrase/quote from the Taskforce by SamDavidson, DPeterson and JohnsonRon. When I complained, the quote was altered, claimed to be not a quote and Becker-Weidman reinserted in two places. This creates a misleading impression that Becker-Weidman is mainstream and quoted approvingly by the Taskforce. As they take turns to revert there is not much one opposing editor can do. I was then warned by DPeterson for 3RR.Consensus is claimed.
Examples of misrepresentation of Taskforce report
- DPeterson adds statement that DDP is in compliance with the Taskforce report (Chaffin/APSAC) Here DPeterson and JonesRD totally misrepresent Taskforces citations of Becker-Weidman
- Repeat unsourced claim, that the Taskforce report was written far earlier than its publication in December 2005, did not have materials from 2004, and that the follow up response of November 2006 did not see Becker-Weidmans 2006 study despite full quotes being provided to the contrary.(at the bottom) (quote provided)(at the bottom)
Examples of misrepresentation of other sources.
- Claiming or implying Craven & Lee said DDP was evidence based and repeatedly removing accurate representations.
- Resisting accurate insertion of Craven and Lee whilst continuing to insist it says DDP is evidence based.
- Mischaracterisation of sources (right at the bottom), calling Prior and Glaser, published by the Royal College of Psychiatrists Research and Training Unit ‘polemic’.JonesRDDPeterson
- Repeatedly arguing attachment therapy is synonymous with rebirthing, that ACT claims this when they don't, even on the cites provided in support..( scroll down past list of AT therapies to explanation).
- When asked for sources to support claims for DDP, DPeterson adds 'Becker-Weidman' to every unsourced claim.
Examples of the obfuscation of the nature of attachment therapy
- Two edits to clarify nature of AT and ‘evidence base ‘ of treatments by Aplomado, reverted by DPeterson to repeat claim that AT as a term has ‘no utility’ and to position DDP as evidence based and in line with relevant standards.
- 31st July JohnsonRon reverts edit stating AT is controversial, to a version saying it doesn’t really mean anything.RalphLender adding to the ‘AT doesn’t mean anything’ approach.This carries on throughout the Attachemnt therapy article aswell wherein it is described as 'smoke'. This is 'supported' by insistence on the repetitious inclusion of lists of publications that don't define AT.
- From 3rd May 2007, DPeterson. "The APSAC report does not describe "Attachment Therapy", it uses the term "attachment therapy" (no caps or quotation marks)." This capital letters argument arises again and again.
interfering with talkpage edits and personal attacks
- Proposed sections of AT article posted on the talkpage at 12.11 for consideration. Between 00.28 and 00.51 DPeterson rewrote it, removing most of the new material and inserting old material from the article. He then invited other editors to comment although they would not have been able to see the proposal.
- Here RalphLender interposed a paragraph.When it was put back in thread and date order it was reverted by Jones RD and RalphLender. RalphLender and DPeterson attacked me on my talkpage.
- Removing other editors spacing of points making contributions difficult to read.
Replacing this with this thus running together the clearly set out mentions of Becker-Weidman by the Taskforce. Note even spacing between words has been removed.
- Personal attacks.
repeated ad nauseum across many talkpages. Also constant 'reminders' to others about WP:AGF and personal attack if an editor disagrees with them.
Comment on DPetersons section on Fainites
DPetersons claim about talkpage edits is misleading. My proposed article paragraphs posted on 13th April were the first such proposals. There was no prior agreement as to how this was to be commented on. They weren't commented on then. DPeterson almost completely rewrote it late that night. I replaced the original. I later suggested that interspersed comments all be done in italics so as not to render proposed edits unreadable. Fainites 22:33, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
In case it wasn't clear, I state that altering another editors proposals in this way is editing in bad faith. Fainites 21:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Comments on FT2
Another element peculiar to this group of editors is interference with other editors talkpage edits such as excessive indenting (including proposed article sections) and the removal of spacing put in to highlight quotations or seperate points. I have not come across this elsewhere on Wiki. RalphLenderJonesRD JohnsonRon DPeterson
Comments on JonesRD
- The list of 12 links to odd editors to show 'this dispute is largely driven by ACT and their supports' contains two links to Raspors' block and two links to talkpage comments by Raspor from before his block. It also contains two links to User:KipMiller who appears to have edited mostly on a non-related page and who's few talkpage edits on John Bowlby bear no relation to ACT's POV. Also two links to IP 69.211.150.60 who appears to have had very little involvement and has mostly edited elsewhere.
- Despite repeated assertions of JeanMercers alleged WP:COI, none of the 6 editors have ever taken this matter to the WP:COI notice board for resolution.
Comment on RalphLender and others
- It is disingenuous to say this is a content dispute driven by the advocacy of ACT and its leaders. There is no evidence that the other editors here are supporters of ACT or even hold all the same views except insofar as they oppose the activities of the named 6 editors.
- ACT, Sarner and Mercer have never been in a position to 'own' or 'control' any articles nor to prevent the activities of the 6 editors, even when their own reputations are savagely attacked. They are not driving anything. They have always been on the back foot.
- It is not ACT who started the ACT page, or indeed the DDP page. The ACT page was started by DPeterson and 'owned' by that group and has always denigrated ACT and its 'leaders'. Furthermore AWeidman was involved in total support of that group despite his disputes off Wiki with Jean Mercer.
Comment on LsiJohn
- When filing the ANI's described by LsiJohn, DPeterson also accused Fathertree of WP:CANVASS, a claim found to be unjustified by admin Shell.
- DPeterson has canvassed himself. , , Note the request also to take part in an RfC.
- Three of these editors (including two from the paedophile pages on which DPeterson edits) then accused the attachment editors opposing DPeterson of being in a coalition with "those who condone paedophilia".
- Note also this is signed by MarkWood, JonesRD, RalphLender, SamDavidson and JohnsonRon, all of whom must have known that none of the opposing editors on the attachment pages had anything to do with the paedophile pages. This unpleasant and baseless attack may have contributed to the effective stalling of the RfC. Fainites 23:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Comment on SamDavidson
Re SamDavidsons accusation of meatpupptry by Sarner. 6 of the 8 diffs are on talkpages and all are plainly continuations of exchanges.
- This diff is from Sarners talkpage and says 'this is my talkpage'.
- This diff says 'see my comments above'.
Forgetting to sign in occasionally is hardly meat or sockpuppetry. This is a patently false allegation.
- Re SamDavidsons most recent diffs claiming I am disruptive, the diffs simply do not show this. I suppose using the phrase 'intellectual dishonesty' could be so, but it's difficult to know how else to describe inserting a reference (Becker-Weidman) into a quote which wasn't in the original( the Taskforce report) Fainites 22:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- The diff that is supposed to show me pushing the ACT POV actually shows the opposite . I say it is controversial whether DDP is 'attachment therapy'. ACT say it is a sure thing. Fainites 23:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Re mediation. The whole discussion round the diff on the talkpage shows the context of the discussions about whether to mediate or not. Once mediation was proposed it was the 6 named editors who showed reluctance. Fainites 10:01, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Comment on MarkWood
- This is an obvious amalgam of other peoples evidence and allegations. The diffs provided do not support the allegations made. cf MarkWoods entries on the workshop page which are also mostly copies of opposing editors proposals.
- Also if "we" own and control the pages, how come all of them (except the attachment therapy page) stand as adverts for DDP and Becker-Weidman? We're obviously not very good socks! (The attachment therapy page doesn't advertise DDP only because it was accidently blocked by WillBeback at the wrong time.)
- Raspor made 12 comments on the talkpage of AT in January 2007 and two edits to attachment therapy in November 2006 (both almost immediately reverted by DPeterson). His edits and interests related to the more sensational side of attachment therapy and various court cases in the US. He has made about 700 odd relating to intelligent design and evolution.
Comment on JohnsonRon
- Many of JohnsonRon's figures are not correct
- Raspor was an obsessive editor on matters relating to intelligent design and evolution. His contribution to attachment issues was minimal. This is not recorded by JohnsonRon
- Maypole was a sock of HeadleyDown. His involvement was minimal. Headley has no observable interest in attachment issues. I believe he followed me from the NLP and related pages where I had had several run-ins with him. Initially he supported Dpeterson et al then 'changed sides'. I have since had an e-mail from him saying puppeteering is 'a joy'. DPeterson et al are aware Maypole is HeadleyDown and it is disingenuous of them to attempt to portray Maypole as a sock of ACT.
Evidence presented by {DPeterson}
First, I would like to respond to the accusations by editors User:StokerAce, User:Lsi john, User:Jean Mercer, User:Fainites.
{User: StokerAce makes several accusations}
- . ACT is a fringe group. I believe that may be an accurate characterization. By fringe I mean a group that is not part of the mainstream mental health professional or advocacy community with a large base of members, such as the American Psychological Association or the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill, among others. In addition, no organization or group cites ACT or uses its materails. It advocates positions that seem extreme, such as, “ACT works to mobilize parents, professionals, private and governmental regulators, prosecutors, juries, and legislators to end the physical torture and emotional abuse that is AT” ] (retrieved 07 July 2007). There is no evidence that any mainstream professional body uses or supports ACT’s positions. This content issue has been raised for quite sometime and since the leaders of ACT (Mercer and Sarner) have not provided any such evidence, I think it may be reasonable to make the statement I did.
- . ACT is not mainstream. See above comment.
- . Not licensed mental health professionals.
Mercer acknowledges that she is not a licensed mental health professional: ] ] The material published about Sarner and Mercer on the ACT site clearly does not say they are licensed and being licensed is a notable credential. ] ], ], ], ], ], ], ], This is a notable fact regarding the credentials of the leaders of Advocates for Children in Therapy and belongs in an article about ACT.
- . Various major professional groups use the input of some advocacy groups and not ACT. This is a statement of fact. For example, the American Psychological Associaiton does advocacy and uses materials from various other groups ], as do other groups ]. In addition, ACT does not list any collaborations with any other advocacy groups or professional organizations. ], yet they do list and describe all their work.
{User:Lsi john makes several accusations}
- .Opened three AN/I. I opened two, if I recall correctly. One in the wrong location. Since comments were appearing in both locations I left both up and assumed that an administrator would fix this if it required fixing. This is precisely what occurred.
- . FatherTree knowingly making false accusations of sockpuppetry. User:FatherTree has made several of my being a sockpuppet, despite knowing that there have been two searches into that “question.”
Accusations: ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:FatherTree&diff=prev&oldid=140833107]]
He was informed that his accusations were untrue, yet kept making them: ] ] ]
The question of being a sockpuppet was researched twice, with the result being “unfounded” each time ], ].
{User:Jean Mercer makes several accusations}
User:Jean Mercer makes several comments without any evidence. However, Mercer makes several statements that she considers it a personal attack that questions were raised about the propriety of her citing her own material. Mercer’s WP:COI here is evident in pushing her own materials, career, and financial advancement as well as that of her group, Advocates for Children in Therapy. Her two books are largely position papers of her group, ACT: ], ], which descrbes them as, "An Expose by ACT authors."
{User:Shotwell makes several accusations}
User:Shotwell raises the issue of sock and meat puppetry. This has been researched at least twice and resolved (see above). The IP addresses questioned were Adelphia IP's, if I beleive, which is a provider of internet services in NY, PA, and surrounding areas. Many of the comments Shotwell makes about unfailing support can also be made about the group of Shotwell, et. al. The fact that several editors have a similar point of view should not be surprising, on either side. These are complex issues and there is a long history of dispute on these issues (See the ACT website for material going back a number of years). The rest of the accusations seem to be more about the content dispute and that we do not agree, which is true.
{User:Fainites makes several accusations}
User:Fainites raises issues similar to that raised by the previous editors in their material. It seems in one instance (Shotwell) I am accussed of not debating, while Fainites accuses me and others of over-debating. In such a complex content dispute ranging over many articles with many contributors, it is not surprising that there is a lot of discussion at times. Most of the rest of her comments regarding “frequently breach the rules on sources,” are content disputes and many of the diffs relate to my trying to reach consensus with Fainites regarding edits to the articles. She mentions that I interfered with talk page edits, yet she was the one that invited me to edit her suggestions on the talk page as a method of building consensus. Proposals were posted on the talk page and then various editors made changes there to further discussion and build agreement. The following diffs show that it was her idea and that she participated in this methodology: ] ] ] ] ] ]
{User:FT2 makes several accusations}
The question of being a sockpuppet was researched twice, with the result being “unfounded” each time ], ].
The comment I removed was done "early" in my experience with Misplaced Pages, before I understood the proper procedure for addressing what appeared to be WP:Personal attacks and inappropriate comments. That was an error on my part.
User:JonesRd makes several points
I support this statment that may suggest how the group ACT and its supporters have brought a long simmering dispute on the internet and in other venues into Misplaced Pages.
A recent WP:SPA addition to the dispute can be found at: ]
] regarding Mercer and Sarner
I would have to agree with JonesRD regarding this COI. They are leaders of the advocacy group {, which has a specific POV that they push, regardless of evidence to the contrary, as Jones RD points out. Their edits to all these pages, Bowlby, Attachment Therapy, Candace Newmaker, etc are driven by their POV and as such they should be sanctioned. DPeterson 00:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Material by FT2 regarding SamDavidson
FT2's table shows that nearly all, in some cases all, of the edits of User:Sarner, User:Jean Mercer, User:StokerAce, User:Shotwell, User:FatherTree, User:Fainities, User:HealthConsumerAdvocate, User:PsychPHD, User:Raspor, User:Mercerj, among others, are on the related pages. DPeterson 00:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Response to Sarner
His evidence is helpful in that it demonstrates a broad range of editors (other than my self and the "Buffalo Editors" who have edited these pages and who are not part of that group: KC63201 jamy Jen Amy Beno1000 Sadi_Carnot This demonstrates that the material included has broader acceptance than the he acknowledges. DPeterson 00:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Response to DopaminergicOverdrive
Seems to be an SPA or maybe a meat/sock? ]
Evidence presented by {FT2}
Evidence that all of these accounts are indeed extremely likely to be socks of AWeidman, that they engage in a long-term pattern of POV pushing and group ownership, that this has included using Misplaced Pages for professional and personal defamation and subtle sabotage of links, with little to no regard for reasonable conduct or policy, and that this pattern extends widely outside this article to many others. |
{Evidence tending to support concerns over puppetry}
Further to evidence by shotwell, commencing:
- "*DPeterson, RalphLender, JonesRD, SamDavison, JohnsonRon, and User:MarkWood provide unfailing support for each other The accounts of DPeterson, RalphLender, JonesRD, SamDavison, JohnsonRon, and User:MarkWood were all created in May-June of 2006 At this time there was mediation concerning John Bowlby between AWeidman and Sarner Each of the accounts named above immediately involved themselves with the dispute and sided with AWeidman."
These editors have repeatedly stated that there were two investigations into sock use, "both unfounded" . This isn't quite true. Of the two RFCU's, one (RFCU/AWeidman) was declined and never checked (on grounds of bad timing/questionable motive/faith since a RfM was also underway). The other (RFCU/DPeterson) was considered unconnected at the time, but was very basic and apparently never tied into much significant evidence beyond an IP check; also multiple IPs were in use. Checkuser is one of many kinds of evidence of puppetry.
AWeidman, DPeterson and MarkWood evidenced as being puppets of some form
I attach the first few contributions of the editors concerned, which I have checked and which tends to support the above statement by user:Shotwell:
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Note the obvious similarities in both target areas, and timings.
- DP and MW both commence editing under their respective accounts on 20 May 2006, 3/4 hr apart.
- The next day, both commence the next days editing 2 minutes apart. DP edits twice at 01:21, and MW edits twice at 01:23 and 01:24, neither then edits for the rest of the day. The edited article in each case is Talk:John Bowlby/Archive 1, the target in each case criticisms of user:sarner ( )
- The next notable event, AWeidman edits on 27 May 2006, and DP and MW both edit several times on 28 May 2006. DP makes a few edits on 1+2 June 2006. All three then fall silent. 2 weeks later, DP returns to editing on 16 June, and AWeidman and MW both return and recommence editing on 17 June 2006. For the record, the comments on return are not prompted by each other: AWeidman posted on Talk:Attachment theory, and MW and DP both posted comments against Sarner (who had stated a view that certain "see also" links were advertizing; DP and MW wrote separately but almost identically against this Talk:John_Bowlby#Wiki_references, Talk:John_Bowlby#WIKI_REFERENCES:_An_appeal_to_concensus_building_and_mediation, Talk:John_Bowlby#Also_See_Links)
- User:AWeidman, user:MarkWood and user:DPeterson all had a similar learning curve on name signing to talk page posts. For example, on April 27 AWeidman was still not consistently signing talk page posts or signing them incorrectly, manually . By June 17 he's got the idea . On May 20, first editing, user:MarkWood hasn't got the idea but he's trying to correct DPetersons signature . On his first edits (May 20), DPeterson is manually typing his signature in, as can be seen by the typos .
On this edit, User:68.66.160.228 signs one paragraph as user:AWeidman and another as user:DPeterson.On this edit, User:66.238.222.38 signs one paragraph as user:MarkWood and another as user:DPeterson .
Strikeout of above twop items: - Following an email from Fainites, I checked if the above DIFFs might be the IP user copy/pasting from assorted posts elsewhere that included existing signatures. These are the only two DIFFs in my evidence where this was possibly an issue. The first diff is a cut/paste of multiple authors (original source), although this was far from clear in the edit itself. The other is also a cut/paste, where editors responding to comments reposted the original comments and thread (including sigs) in their responses. Eg, Original post ... reposted with response added ... response added whole thread finally re-re-posted yet again by IP editor. No other DIFFs in this evidence are affected by this issue.
- There is clear evidence of intent towards puppetry here on 20 May. An IP editor connected geographically and via sign-in with AWeidman (user:68.66.160.228) posts "So I guess you are connected with, or at least sympathetic with, the fringe group ACT. It shows." and leaves it unsigned (see above; at this point DP/MW/AW were also leaving their posts unsigned) ... 2.5 hours later the same IP starts a new section below and in support of this: "Yes, you are right. Sarner is a member of ACT and in league with Mercer and Rosa. Clearly Sarner is biased and acting to implement an agenda rather than the free flow of information". This statement is clearly intended to support the first one, but intended to appear to be from a different person.
- (Cross ref: This IP was also noted by user:StokerAce above)
- There's more in this sequence of edits. The second of these statements by user:68.66.160.228 is then signed by DPeterson (incorrectly) who seems to have trouble as he corrects it a second time . The same signature is then corrected almost immediately by the account MarkWood who also overlooks the same mistake DPeterson didn't notice with curly brackets , until a bare 3 minutes later our original IP editor user:68.66.160.228 returns to correct it. . In the space of 8 minutes (1:19 to 1:27) we see the IP user replying to himself, then signing the reply as DPeterson, then getting the signature format confused as DPeterson, then MarkWood still getting them confused and then as the IP editor again finally correcting.
- The next edit after this display by any of the three (once the siggy is corrected) is over 20 hours later and it's user:MarkWood giving his own strong support to DPeterson's post attacking Sarner.
- Ironically , in that edit, MarkWood makes the same typo with curly brackets on his sig yet again that DPeterson made in the previous edits, and then has to re-edit himself again to fix it.
- Given the above, it is probably significant that user:AWeidman (who also signs his posts "Dr. Art" (ie, Arthur) ), user:DPeterson and user:MarkWood shared typo's in common. This was at the time when Weidman and Sarner were in dispute already. Weidman and Peterson both habitually mis-spell "consensus" as "concensus": DPeterson , AWeidman . According to Google (en.wiki search: talk 'consensus'=105000 hits en.wiki search: talk 'concensus'=6650 hits) most references to this word in en.wikipedia.org are spelt correctly (the search is designed to filter out most non-talk pages since these will be corrected by other editors, and avoid google's spelling corrector).
- I quickly checked user:MarkWood as well. Compare: .
- Later on I noticed in fact user:JohnsonRon does the same too (see below, this came up when citing DIFFS to back up the WP:LAWYER issues).
- See below (sub-section: user:AWeidman removes others talk page comments).
In fact he's not the only one. Compare these two edits on Talk:Reactive attachment disorder and Talk:Attachment disorder: , by user:AWeidman and user:DPeterson respectively. DPeterson removes the comment directed at AWeidman, even though DPeterson isn't mentioned in it, nor is it directed at him.
- As a balancing view I did note that AWeidman on his account has not visibly made the "{{" -> "[[" error that DPeterson and MarkWood made on a few occasions. However, on closer inspection, AWeidman actually didn't make any talk page posts via that account at that time; his last was April 27, his next a brief one on May 27 and then more after June 17; the above error (which MarkWood/DPeterson got wrong) were posted around 20-22 May and the signature issue was visibly sorted out shortly after.
- It's also worth noting that user:MarkWood posted comments that had the effect on a reader of emphasizing the separation between himself and AWeidman, for example "In fact, if I read Dr. Becker-Weidman's ... website materials correctly, they both fully comply with the recommendations of that report!!" . This is not evidence per se of puppetry, but if puppetry is found it is evidence that it was more deliberate.
RalphLender, JonesRD, and SamDavidson evidenced as being the same person as DPeterson, MarkWood &c
Given that AWeidman, DPeterson and MarkWood have a collective track record of immensely novel spelling, I decided to look at other very unusual spellings errors in the article, to see who shared them, and how common they were in Misplaced Pages. This would not have worked for most situations, as such a range of notable spelling errors on common talk page words are usually (unhelpfully) quite rare. In this situation that was not the case and this approach was viable.
I searched in four pages: Talk:John Bowlby, Talk:Attachment therapy and their respective sole archive pages, to see which words had been at some time or other mis-spelt in a surprising way. (I did not look at other pages, other articles, talk pages or mediation/project pages.) I then got a rough estimate of how common the given mis-spelling was by counting "hits" for the word and its correct spelling using otherwise identical searches via Google.
That said, the comparison is a valid one for the purpose of comparing orders of magnitude
and thus whether the typo is common or uncommon in Misplaced Pages.
Other highly uncommon/notable typos included:
- SamDavidson and JonesRD share the same typo for "previouls(y)": SamDavidson JonesRD
- SamDavidson and DPeterson share the same typo for "Therapuetic": SamDavidson DPeterson
- DPeterson, RalphLender and the IP user all share the typo of "-ness/-nss": DPeterson RalphLender 68.66.160.228
I gave up searching at this point.
In fact there are so many typos that it is hard not to have a concern that the editor behind all of these is significantly dyslexic. And only the alleged socks, have this trait, and all of those named in the above table do it. Any editor wishing to check this can take the above pages and check them personally.
Examples supporting this include: principel, solicite, condusive, dispell, whould, flexiable, suggesitons, pressented, prominanlty , vanaldism, addtion, etc.
Review of edits of JohnsonRon
Finally I also looked at the edits of user:JohnsonRon who did not feature heavily in the above search, to confirm more fully the extent of evidence and the nature of their edits. user:JohnsonRon was interesting. There were again, also typos of the kind above (mateiral, Wikkipedia, wikipeidis) as well as some AWeidman classics ("concensus") and a heavy involvement in pushing the actual wikilawyering with the others involved (See below).
The stance of these editors
Evidence of breach of WP:NPA, WP:AGF, WP:CIVIL etc
Given the above, it's a reasonable interpretation that has to be considered, that DPeterson and MarkWood and the others have acted like attack/POV warfare socks run by AWeidman or associates. Even if this isn't the case (or wasn't apparent back then), they really should have been dealt with on the basis of WP:NPA long ago.
Example post by MarkWood, on 22 May 2006, 2 days after the account was created: :
- "Here is another long winded diatribe by Sarner which shows a lack of understanding and a biased view. Sarner is clearly not open to any information other than what Sarner wants to believe In fact, if I read Dr. Becker-Weidman's and Dr. Hughes' website materials correctly, they both fully comply with the recommendations of that report!!
- "Yes, the real realotry and stubborness are apparent in Sarner's repeated reverts and distortions."
Many more similar comments are visible in the above/below DIFFs as well as the article talk pages.
Evidence of AWeidman's inappropriate removal of other editors' comments
- See for example AWeidman edits, removing comments critical of himself: , all dated August 2006. At the point the page was archived (March 2007), the removed comments were still deleted. (See last diff before archiving, dated December 2006 )
- As noted above user:DPeterson removes negative comments aimed at AWeidman too .
Evidence of IP 68.66.160.228 sabotaging links
. Linked to from one of the posts critical of AWeidman, which he deleted (above). This edit is in the nature of sabotaging of links, rather than "simple vandalism", involving replacing "i" by "ii" in the URL, and the like.
Evidence of Wikilawyering with WP:OWN, WP:RS, WP:CONSENSUS
The editors named have engaged in a clear pattern of enforcing a preferred viewpoint through wikilawyering. The classic stance taken several times was roughly: "You may certainly comment. But you are in the minority." followed by an accusation or implication that the person is trying to WP:OWN the article and that they will be rebuffed and likely warned or sanctioned for unwiki-ish conduct and tendentious editing, since their view is not WP:CONSENSUS. A 'vote' was then called which was used to creat what was described as 'consensus' and add authority to the rebuff.
- Five of many example DIFFs of this strategy being used:
- JohnsonRon (note - relevant paragraph is the 2nd of 2 on the right, the paragraph starting "The materials and statements meet Misplaced Pages standards...")
- JohnsonRon again... this time agreeing quite affably that the material can go in... with the twist in the tail "Again, we'll see what other editors have to say and the consensus will determine the outcome.".
- JohnsonRon again, next edit after the above... this edit shows the curt use of wikilawyering of this kind, to cut off a debate without respect to balance, policy or indeed reason. It also (2nd paragraph) shows how user:JohnsonRon again uses lawyering on WP:OWN, WP:RS and WP:CONSENSUS to push a preferred approach. This is then followed immediately (same edit) by a 'vote' to determine "concensus" -- note JohnsonRon uses AWeidman's mis-spelling of this word.
- user:JonesRD doing the identical same twist: "We certainly should give others a chance to comment. While you have written the material underdiscussion here, you do not OWN it and there must be broad and generally agreement, but no one person has a veto..."
- user:RalphLender does likewise: "But, in any event, this is a side issue and not to the point. I support leaving both references in and so do the vast majority of contributors."
The 'vote' at Talk:John_Bowlby#Proposal shows also by example: the various puppets working together to create a "consensus", including user:DPeterson (1) unilaterally overruling a strikeout of new single purpose acccount (and suspected sock ) user:Wallyj (not otherwise mentioned in this RFArb) from the 'vote' on fairly spurious grounds that differ from community consensus, and (2) unquestioning permitting a 2nd supporting vote from then-new editor user:JohnsonRon.
Gaming the WP:CITE and WP:V systems with bad faith
Eg:
- Refusal to adequately cite beyond vague mention of a publication which others had concerns over, eg.see the two consecutive sections #Question_about_peer-review_support_for_DDP_and_Theraplay and #Evidence_Base_..._Leave_Page_As_Is in which cites are requested, and danced around. ("
- MarkWood then misrepresents the above debate to slant Sarner as being unreasonable ... several diffs later its still danced around with a claim that he has been given "all he needs" ... until DPeterson states "See, there he goes again with personal attachks and raising irrelvant issues. The references are irrelevant to the fact that consensus has been reached and he apparently will not accept that" (!!) Sarner's request after this comment here.
Scale of activity elsewhere
If puppetry is deemed to have taken place, then I don't think the potential scale has yet come out in this RFArb. This is only one of over 50 articles where the same group are active. Often several accounts each join an article (or 'vote' mutually endorsing each other's stance in debates) within a very few days of each other. See attached summary:
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Quick example evidencing that similar joint action takes place on other articles not connected to Attachment Therapy
- Child sexual abuse Talk:Child_sexual_abuse#POLL_TO_DELETE_THIS_SECTION (RalphLender, MarkWood, DPeterson, JonesRD, SamDavidson respond to a poll by RL)
- Background to this: Talk:Child_sexual_abuse#Deleted_methodological_issue where editors complain about DPeterson deleting significant cited material from academic studies, and the ensuing discussion is taken over by DPeterson, JohnsonRon, RalphLender, and SamDavidson, until SamDavidson declares "Yes, RalphLender, it does look like there is a clear agreement or consensus among five or six editors and only one (or two?) who seem to disagree. Deletion is the plan now." and RalphLender declares he sees a clear majority and calls a vote.
- After a mass flurry of warning templates, some of which are stated to be "red herrings", including threats of "last warning before block", one editor states "When people are trying to remove material that have major impact on the research area while claiming that it is undue weight to even include it, then we have major problem. It doesn't matter if it is ignorance or in bad faith, it just isn't possible to edit this article under such conditions. Let's settle this in ArbCom and get it done already"
- ... which DPeterson powerfully tries to deter via lawyering again: "Please read the Misplaced Pages dipute resolution documents. The proper steps would be first to hold an informal poll , then work toward compromise, then, do an RfC, then, if all else fails, you can file a request for Mediation. AbCom would reject any request at this point as premature."
Comment by IP editor on article talk page
The following serious issue was raised by IP account user:70.156.183.109, regarding user:AWeidman using Misplaced Pages article pages to publicize serious professional and personal defamation. This allegation should be looked into (if it hasn't been already) as it is rather serious and also supported by DIFFs.
The original post - The main DIFF by AWeidman it cites as an example
Responses to comments
Response - to MarkWood
MarkWood states: Coordinated efforts Meatpuppet: Same targets and timing -- Shotwell, Fainities, FatherTree, Sarner, Mercer, StokerAce , and more recently Lsi john and FT2 provide unfailing support for each other.
My involvement with this article started with a response on RFC patrol at DPeterson's RFC (21 May). I made two minor article edits, both of an administrative nature (correcting names separated from comments for other RFC readers, and tagging of the DDP article as "fansite/NPOV" with a talk page explanation and followup comment), with no other involvement. My interest on the article is therefore clearly evidenced as being purely of an administrative nature. I have never edited the AT article or its talk page, or pages closely related to it, other than in that role, had literally zero involvement in the article or the dispute, and am here as an outsider presenting evidence of policy breaches and sock use. Even that is almost entirely restricted to the last 4 days since this RFArb was opened. Res ipsa loquiter FT2 07:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Comment re SamDavidson's list of "disruptive editors"
It is undenied and common ground that Sarner, JeanMercer and AWeidman all have a real life interest strong viewpoint in the pro/anti-AT debate (WP:COI and WP:NPOV do not preclude strong viewpoints; they rather state that a strong viewpoint is of concern and should be edited with caution or recused). The other allegations by SamDavidson are more dubious. For example he cites diffs to show "disruptive" behavior on the part of various people. But many of those diffs do not seem to support the assertations made, or only slightly do so:
- Sarner is disruptive:
cite #1 + full context
cite #2 as IP editor + full context
Cite #3 + context. - Mercer is disruptive: Financial interest etc, we know about Weidman and Mercer both having real life relationship to the debate, that is not a problem. Improper editing as a result is a problem. The question of COI applies to all 3 parties and itself is accepted as valid. Moving on...
Cite #1 + full context doesn't show disruption; may show parties on all sides continued a professional debate here; could include mild OR on both sides, but I'm not expert enough to judge if this is discussion and assessment of published reports or synthesis and personal perspectives/research
Cite #2 A "focus" on a given editor is not a "disruptive" act, I'd have "focussed" on editing I considered dubious too, on articles I'm involved in
Cite #3 Discussing whether one might write professionally on a debate is not a problem either per se
Now, Cite #4 this link does impune a motive to DPeterson et al that they "want to prevent the public" etc. As such it is inappropriate. (Note: this cite is then repeated in SamDavidson's evidence a 2nd time, giving the impression of two diffs, as item: "POV" ) - Shotwell is disruptive:
Cite #1 does not show "disruptive" editing, nor is seeking more evidence of a mainstream view "bias", ...
- Sarner is disruptive:
And so on....
Most of the claimed "disruptives" are not in fact evidence of disruption. A few show demands for evidence, questions about the debate, possibly some carry-over by all parties (not just one) of the real life debate onto the talk page as OR... and several groundless items. Other cites may show other things, but it seems quite a number don't evidence strong cases of what they are claimed to evidence. Some milkd OR and accusations, perhaps. Which it now seems, were well founded.
Finally, and importantly, proving the other side is not faultless in no way exonerates the other side from its own faults or refutes the other side's own conduct.
Reponse to SamDavidson claim that both sides show a similar pattern if analyzed
SamDavidson states that the same analysis performed on the edits of AWeidman et all "with some different articles, could be produced with Mercer, Sarner, FatherTree, Shotwell, StokerAce, etc. In fact, one could create a similiar listing focusing on any article with some degree of heat"
To test whether this was true or not, I performed an analysis of the articles edited by Mercer, Sarner, FatherTree, Shotwell, and StokerAce, and their first edit dates, which was identical to that performed on AWeidman et al.
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Despite having a comparable number of edits when combined (3000 v. 4500), and spreading the net to search for editing in common by all editors named by SamDavidson, there are very few articles edited in common by these editors; additionally all of these few are directly related to this dispute.
- AWeidman et al frequently have joined the same article on a wide range of topics, often on the same or similar dates, and often with multiple accounts. But beyond a very few articles all directly related to the present dispute, Mercer, Sarner, FatherTree, Shotwell, and StokerAce do not edit articles on other topics in common.
- Where AWeidfman et al show a pattern that when one joins an article, so do (often multiple) others at a very similar time, this is not the case with Mercer/Sarner et al, even though Mercer and Sarner are stated to have a common editing goal. Specifically, where AWeidman et al frequently join articles with multiple accounts on the same or very similar dates, Mercer and Sarner have only done so on two articles: Advocates for Children in Therapy and Attachment Therapy, and StokerAce/FatherTree and StokerAce/Shotwell only on one article each.
Response to DPeterson re above
DPeterson states: "FT2's table shows that nearly all, in some cases all, of the edits of Sarner, Jean Mercer, StokerAce, Shotwell, FatherTree, Fainities, HealthConsumerAdvocate, PsychPHD, Raspor, Mercerj, among others, are on the related pages".
I find this a remarkable statement. It shows nothing of the kind. For one thing, the edits of most of these are not included (!!) as they were not brought into question by SamDavidson's comment. This is stated clearly. Secondly, the analysis is identical to that of AWeidman et al; it shows only articles where two or more of the named editors both edited. It does not show what articles each of them they may have edited in addition. This is also clearly stated. FT2 07:25, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Evidence presented by {JonesRD}
{Socks}
Several of these editors only began editing recently and as part of this dispute and might be considered WP:SPA (Sarner, Mercer, Maypole, StokerAce, FatherTree, Note: Maypole has since been banned). It is not clear what is their relationship to the ACT group.
Other editors have come and gone who only edit on this dispute from the ACT point of view: ], ], ], ]. ], (]) ], (]) ], (]) ], (])
This supports the contention that this dispute is primarily a content dispute and it is largely driven by Advocates for Children in Therapy and their supports.
{Accusations by several editors}
The various other accusations are responded to by DPeterson and I agree with those resonses, such as the repeated accusation of my being a sockpuppet of several other editors.
Spelling
The spelling errors cited are common errors with the QWERTY keyboard. I am sure that there are lots of other common spelling errors one could use to "link" any group of editors one wished to link. The salient point is that there have been two investigations into the sock/meat puppet accusations, both unfounded.
Conflict of Interest
There seems to exist a major conflict of interest WP:COI regarding Sarner and Mercer, both of whom are primary leaders of ACT and whose books are publicized on the ACT website and who clearly have a financial interest in this dispute. Mercer's recent career seems to be primarily built on her association with ACT and its position.
Evidence presented by RalphLender
Overall, I agree with the material presented by DPeterson and JonesRD.
[[WP:COI regarding User:Jean Mercer and User:Sarner
User:Sarner and User:Jean Mercer having a WP:COI regarding these various articles and the content disputes . The dispute initially was driven in part by the unique positions of two leaders of the advocacy group, Advocates for Children in Therapy (Sarner and Mercer) and their supporters. Their advocacy is the basis for this content dispute. The conflict of interest involves the following #. They are leaders of the advocacy group Advocates for Children in Therapy, ] #. They have published books and so have a financial interest in the dispute. ], ]. # Mercer’s recent career involves advocating the positions of this advocacy group. ], ], ], ], ], ]
Forum Shopping
Several disputes were mediated and resolved, only to be re-raised by the same group of editors when the outcome was not to their liking. See:
- Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-07 Advocates for Children in Therapy
- Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-05-21 John Bowlby
- Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-18 Sarner's reverts-edits of Bowlby and Candace Newmaker
Sarner and StokerAce being Meatpuppets
An administrator raised this issue a while ago: ]
Response to Lis john and shotwell
My AN/I on FatherTree was different that DPeterson's. The sockpuppet issues was raised and addressed on two occassions.
Evidence presented by SamDavidson
There has been a substantial amount of improper talk page conduct by several of the editors involved in this dispute. Personal Attacks, self-promotion, disrutpive editing, among other problems.
Sarner is disruptive
Cites own book (WP:COI) & self-promotional: ]
Cites own book without acknowledging (COI) it is his & continues to argue against inclusion of phrase, "Unlicensed therapists", despite evidence provided by an independent Editor (Disruptive): ] His own book supports statement that they were unlicensed: ] Sarner makes several statements to exclude his group from discussion: ] ]
Found to be disruptive and told to disengage from DPeterson by an administrator…but does not: ], based on statement: ] “'You have been blocked for 48 hours for personal attacks and disruption, including the AfD which in my opinion is disrupting Misplaced Pages to prove a point. When you come back, you are to disengage with DPeterson; he has complained to me that he feels harassed and I don't blame him. I have looked through his contributions and I don't see any incivility coming from him. You may contest this block by placing {{unblock|(reason you should be unblocked)}} on your user talk page, which you can still edit. Mangojuice 01:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)'”
Showing that Sarner and Mercer have a vested interest in these disputes: ]
MORE: Sarner is disruptive
206.81.65.234 who is a Sarner sockpuppet: ]
Disruptive editing and personal attacks: ] ] ] ] ] ] (toward MarkWood) ] (toward MarkWood) ] Despite having been resolved in mediation, Sarner starts the entire dispute again several months later. ]
In this section we see Sarner refusing to state all his suggested changes to an article and thereby stalling mediation and the building of agreement ]
Mercer is disruptive
Financial Interest in her articles/career: ]
These disputes are her career and the basis for her publications: ]
Advocating ACT’s position and bringing those disputes into Misplaced Pages: ] In particular a focus on Dr. Becker-Weidman: ] ]
More Mercer is disruptive
Personal Attacks, POV advocate for ACT, Disruptive editing, inflammatory. (In the archive of the talk page, the history diffs are not available, so I will use quotes here). States: “In any case, all these issues are simply red herrings to conceal the fact that DPeterson & Co. want to prevent the public from having information about holding therapy,Dyadic Synchronous Bonding, Prolonged Parent-Child Embrace, or any of the flock of names I've categorized as Attachment Therapy, following Foster Cline, and, of course, Daniel Hughes.Jean Mercer 12:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)” in ]
Self-promotion and use of the conflict to advance her career: “It will be interesting when I write an article about what's been said here. This I can do with impunity, because of course I have no idea who you are, so I can't name you-- and my name is already known, so there's no problem about naming myself.Jean Mercer0:15, 22 July 2006 (UTC) “ in ]
Personal Attacks: ]
Self-promotion and use of conflict for her publications: ]
POV: ]
Shotwell is disruptive
Based on “bias?” rejects with distain verifiable sources: ]
Makes disparaging statements, that are, in fact, false: ] The material is not self-published and was in professional peer-reviewed publications.
More SHOTWELL is disruptive
POV pushing and representing ACT view. ], ]
FatherTree is disruptive
Here we see evidence of the ACT positions: ]
More FATHERTREE is disruptive
Personal attacks, implications that are clearly provocative and false accusations: ], ]
FAINITES is disruptive
Despite given citations of professional publications in peer-reviewed publications and Craven & Lee defining it as evidence-based, Fainities misrepresents material. POV pushing, and disruptive editing: ]
Misrepresents Craven & Lee article. POV pushing, represeing ACT and Mercer view. Craven & Lee clearly define Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy as evidence-based. ]
Representing ACT view (identifying the professional org. ACT as controversial) ]
Personal attacks and distorts article’s purpose ] Distorts purpose of article and tries to broaden it in a manner to attack DDP, etc per ACT. ]
ACT POV: ]
Additional Socks and Meatpuppets
Mercerj: ], who is Jean Mercer.
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comment on ft2
The list of articles that several editors have edited is really irrelevant. The same listing, with some different articles, could be produced with Mercer, Sarner, FatherTree, Shotwell, StokerAce, etc. In fact, one could create a similiar listing focusing on any article with some degree of heat; such as NLP, Child Sexual Abuse, NAZI, etc. It is really an irrelevant listing. SamDavidson 00:48, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Comments regarding AWeidman
Dr. Becker-Weidman has seemed to not been a party of this dispute in a very long time, perhaps because of the personal attacks and related misprepresentations of his material. Wisely, he has stayed out of the conflicts so that any appearance of COI is avoided. The same cannot be said for Sarner and Mercer and ACT supporters, who are evident in abundance. Sarner and Mercer continue to edit and represent the ACT POV and the POV in their books and other promotional materials, which is a clear violation of wikipedia COI. Dr. Becker-Weidman has stayed out of this...which is probably a good thing. SamDavidson 01:24, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
The group of editors (Fainities, StokerAce, Maypole, FatherTree
The group of editors (Fainities, Shotwell, StokerAce, Maypole, FatherTree) did not enter Mediation in good faith and with the intention of attempting to resolve the content disputes. They intended to go directly to Arbitration and subvert the Misplaced Pages process. ]
Evidence presented by MarkWood
Coordinated efforts Meatpuppet: Same targets and timing
Shotwell, Fainities, FatherTree, Sarner, Mercer, StokerAce, (and the various socks identified in the evidence of JonesRD, RalphLender, and SamDavidson), and more recently Lsi john and FT2 provide unfailing support for each other. This support extends to arcane issues such as what statistical analyses are valid. Each account has either inserted or defended claims that are derogatory concerning Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy into a large number of articles and which are identical to ACT’s positions.
There was mediation concerning John Bowlby involving Sarner: This dispute centered around whether or not Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy ought to be mentioned in the article. Most of the accounts named above immediately involved themselves with the dispute and sided Sarner and the ACT position. In the following July, they many of them participated in this afd, which is demonstrative of their similar editing patterns.
Shotwell, Fainities, FatherTree, Sarner, Mercer, StokerAce, (and the various socks identified in the evidence of JonesRD, RalphLender, and SamDavidson), work together to ‘own’ attachment pages (Attachment Therapy, Attachment disorder, Reactive attachment disorder, Advocates for Children in Therapy, Candace Newmaker, Attachment Theory, Bowlby, among others. They maintain ACT’s views views, edits and assertions in the related articles and are vocal in making their attacks personal attacks against Dr. Becker-Weidman. There is a substantial content dispute, but it is the way they own and control the pages and swamp opposition that is the main problem. In addition, their focusing on Dr. Becker-Weidman appears personal and seems to be the taking into Misplaced Pages of a dispute Mercer, Sarner, and ACT seem to have with his work. See:
Note the obvious similarities in both target areas, and timing:
Shotwell & Fainities ]
FatherTree & Sarner ]
FatherTree & Shotwell ] ]
FatherTree & Mercer ]
Mercer & Fainities ]
Fainities & StokerAce ]
Additional diffs could be provided, but this provides an initial set of examples.
Further evidence of their working together can be found by the frequent talk-page communications:
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], ]
=Response To Mercer
Her allegations are without merit and have no evidence to support her allegations.
=Response to StokerAce, Shotwell, et. al.'s response to my evidence
Just because a few individuals (such as myself, DPeterson, RDJones, etc) happen to agree at times does not make us socks or meats. One can find many individual small groups at certain articles who regularily agree because of the strength of their feelings. Partly, the consistency is in response to the vehemency of the ACT group's arguments and unwillingness to build agreement.
Evidence presented by Sarner
(Note: For convenience of reference, I refer collectively to Becker-Weidman and the original six editors at issue as the "Buffalo Editors".)
Evidence of an Advertising Campaign on Behalf of Becker-Weidman and DDP
- Becker-Weidman creates DDP, and the other Buffalo Editors edit, "improve," or defend the article:
Editor User account created First editing on AWeidman 4 Dec 2005 4 Dec 2005 DPeterson 20 May 2006 18 Jun 2006 RalphLender 5 Jul 2006 5 Jul 2006 SamDavidson 30 Jun 2006 21 Jul 2006 MarkWood 20 May 2006 19 Jul 2006 JonesRD 18 Jun 2006 13 Jul 2006 JohnsonRon 19 Jun 2006 17 Oct 2006
- Insertion of DDP, reference to Becker-Weidman's publications, and links to his commercial website, into Misplaced Pages articles in the mainspace:
Article Editor (diff date)
Additional description Attachment disorder IP 68.66.160.228* - Buffalo NY
Removed references to reliable secondary sources for Newmaker death and substituted a link to Becker-Weidman's website Attachment theory AWeidman Adds link to his own commercial website Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy AWeidman Article created by Becker-Weidman on same day as creating his user account, with only references to his own article and book, and external links to his own website and that of ATTACh (he is on their Board of Directors) Reactive attachment disorder IP 68.66.160.228* - Buffalo NY
Introduced DDP as part of "Attachment Therapy", along with Theraplay; also citing Becker-Weidman's book and ATTACh (calling the latter a “reputable professional organization” on a par with APA and AMA) Attachment disorder IP 66.238.222.151* - New York City
Inserted huge excerpt from Becker-Weidman's book. Edit-warred to restore this material when it was moved to the talk page. Attachment disorder AWeidman Cross-link to DDP added, setting off a major edit-war Attachment theory AWeidman Adds section on "treatment" which refers only to Theraplay and DDP (latter with hyperlink to DDP article). Also adds in reference to his own book, and restores link to his commercial website (previously removed by an uninvolved user as "useless"). John Bowlby AWeidman Adds section on "Use of Bowlby's theory in Practice" which not only mentions DDP (and Theraplay) — as the only uses of Bowlby's — but includes alleged endorsements of DDP. Edit-war ensues, involving all of the Buffalo Editors and several IP editors from New York City, Ithaca NY, and Los Angeles CA. Mary Ainsworth AWeidman Two minutes after the preceding edit, adds cross-link to DDP article Attachment in children Kc62301 Created nearly intact article, including a DDP section. Kc62301 had come onto Misplaced Pages on 26 May 2006, and had previously co-edited Monogamy with DPeterson. New article was immediately set upon by JohnsonRon, JonesRD, and RalphLender Attachment in adults Kc62301 Six minutes after creating preceding article, created another nearly intact article, with references to DDP and Theraplay in situ, along with citation of Becker-Weidman's book and an external link to Becker-Weidman's website Attachment measures Kc62301 Three minutes after creating preceding article, created still another nearly intact article, with no references to DDP and Theraplay in the article's text but with Becker-Weidman's book listed first on "Recommended Reading" and the first External Link being to Becker-Weidman's website Post-traumatic stress disorder DPeterson Text added which touts DDP Attachment Therapy JohnsonRon A week following their failure to have this article deleted (), references to DDP and Theraplay were added Post-traumatic stress disorder RalphLender Text added about DDP, with a hyperlink to the DDP article Complex post-traumatic stress disorder RalphLender Adds DDP to "See Also" links Emotional dysregulation DPeterson Adds DDP to "See Also" links Therapy DPeterson Adds DDP (along with EMDR) to list of articles Family therapy DPeterson Adds DDP to "See Also" links Psychotherapy DPeterson Adds DDP (and Theraplay) to section on "Adaptations for children", touting DDP as "an evidence-based family-based treatment approach" Child welfare AWeidman References to DDP practically take over the entire article Foster care AWeidman A "See Also" section added with DDP article included Adoption AWeidman Text added to include DDP (and Theraplay, C-PTSD) Child abuse AWeidman Section on "Treatment" added, with references solely to his own book and article, and a hyperlink to DDP article. Adopted child syndrome DPeterson Added claim that affected children needed DDP and Theraplay, "among other evidence-based treatment methods". Cognitive behavioral therapy SamDavidson Added claim that DDP incorporates CBT (and adds hyperlink), citing Becker-Weidman's book. Adopted child syndrome RalphLender Added DDP article to "See Also" list Temperament "jamy" Jen & Amy Refers to ABW’s "temperament" website; creating user(s) claimed on initial edits to be making them "for a class"; these are the only edits that this user ever did. Treatment of mental illness MarkWood Adds a list of broader cross-references, tucks in the non-broad DDP (along with EMDR), and sloppily misspells several article names (though not DDP). - On 28 Jan 2007, someone suborns Beno1000 to create an "Attachment theory" template which has the DDP and Theraplay articles as entries. Over the next 45 minutes, Beno1000 adds it to the following articles, thereby giving a hyperlink to the DDP article in each and every one of them:
- Attachment in children
- Attachment theory
- Attachment in adults
- Attachment measures
- Attachment disorder
- Reactive attachment disorder
- Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy
- Theraplay
- Object relations theory
- Affectional bond
- Human bonding
- Mary Ainsworth
- John Bowlby
- Erik Erikson
- Jerome Kagan
- Melanie Klein
- Jean Piaget
{More to Come}
Evidence presented by JohnsonRon
Editors work together
Editors User:Shotwell User:FatherTree, User:Maypole User:Jean Mercer, User:Sarner, User:StokerAce, User:Fainites, [[User:HealthCareConsumer}}, User:PsychPHD, User:Raspor, User:Mercerj, User:69.170.233.237, User:70.18.125.6, User:69.211.150.60, User:KipMiller, User:206.81.65.148, primarily edit these related articles and take the position of ACT and support each other. Most of these editors only edit the pages that have been discussed as part of this Arbitration.
For each editor I list the article or talk page and edits to that, along with unrelated edits. The pattern is very clear. These editors edit only or predominantly the articles under dispute and as previous evidence shows, their edits are all related, supportive of each other, and consistent with or identical with the ACT POV.
SHOTWELL
Candace Newmaker: 34 Talk: 35
Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy: 27 Talk: 82
ACT: 6 Talk:74
Attachment Therapy:0 Talk: 41
Bowlby:0 Talk: 6
Other: 106 Talk: 87
FATHERTREE Attachment Therapy: 13 Talk: 50
Dyadic Developmental Psychotherapy:0 Talk: 5
NO OTHER ARTICLE EDITS
STOKERACE Only Talk page edits, all related:
Attachment Therapy: 30
Candace Newmaker: 19
DDP: 19
ACT:18
MAYPOLE Attachment Therapy: 8 Talk: 32
Other:7 Talk 2
HEALTHCONSUMERADVOCATE
All related to the topic: 4
Other:1
PSYCHPHD
ACT: 3 Talk: 3
RASPOR
Attachment Therapy: 2 Talk: 14
Reactive Attachment Disorder: 2
MERCERJ
Reactive Attachment Disorder:0 Talk:2
FAINITES
Neurolinguisticprograming related: 710 Talk: 586
Attachment Therapy: 111 Talk: 613
EMDR:45 Talk:32
Child Abuse: 5
DDP:4 Talk:6
Child Welfare: 4
Large Group related: 5 Talk:34
Caseworker:3
ACT talk: 27
Bowlby talk:4
Candace Newmaker Talk: 2
Other talk:24
SARNER
Bowbly: 62 TALK: 166
Candace Newmaker:37 TALK: 55
Barrett: 24 TALK: 7
Attachment Therapy Talk: 12
ACT:7
Theraplay:3
NO OTHER ARTICLE EDITS
JEAN MERCER
Attachment Therapy: 6 Talk:42
DDP: 2 Talk: 21
Attachment in Children:2 Talk:2
Bowlby talk:3
Attachment Therapy talk:2
Reactive Attachment Disorder talk: 2
Attachment Disorder Talk: 2
No other article edits
69.170.233.237
Attachment Disorder:17 Talk:13
Reactive Attachment Disorder: 16 Talk:15
Attachment Therapy talk: 25
Bowlby talk: 10
70.18.125.6
ACT: 4
69.211.150.60
Candace Newmaker: 2 Talk:4
KipMiller
Bowlby:3 Talk:6
Micheal Rutter: 16
206.81.65.148
Candace Newmaker: 2 Talk:4
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Evidence presented by DopaminergicOverdive
DPeterson et al. are one person
- Their links look wrong: ] <-- like that. You can see this in their accounts above.
- They can't bold correctly. For a striking example of them all making the same mistake, see Talk:Advocates_for_Children_in_Therapy#Poll_on_Also_see_section
- Some of the content on User:DPeterson is pasted from User:AWeidman. eg., "My areas of expertise and my areas of interest are: Psychotherapy with children and adolescents; Attachment theory, Sir John Bowlby, the application of attachment theory If you want to contact me you can just leave a message on my talk page."
Evidence presented by {your user name}
before using the last evidence template, please make a copy for the next person
{Write your assertion here}
Place argument and diffs which support your assertion; for example, your first assertion might be "So-and-so engages in edit warring", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits to specific articles which show So-and-so engaging in edit warring.
{Write your assertion here}
Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion; for example, your second assertion might be "So-and-so makes personal attacks", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits where So-and-so made personal attacks.