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Yokoso!

Welcome to the Misplaced Pages! Your English is much better than my Japanese, I would be happy to help! Chris 18:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I can write only short English. Please forgive my wrong grammar. --Azukimonaka 19:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Takeda improvements

Thank you so much for your improvements on these articles! This was my late Wife's family. Chris 06:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Warning

Please do not introduce any form of vandalism to the userpages of other users, as you did to User:DDRG. Thank you. -- Mackan 20:03, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

This user is Inconclusive　I do not support the personal attack.　--Azukimonaka 20:10, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Even so, do NOT throw around accusations of personal attacks lightly. It's uncivil and can constitute a personal attack of it's own. Mackan 20:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

It is a personal attack that you rewrite the top page of the hated user. Please contact the administrator if there is a problem in my behavior. I explain your behavior. --Azukimonaka 20:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Please familiarize yourself with Misplaced Pages policies. Guidelines for dealing with suspected sockpuppets/meatpuppets specifically state one SHOULD post exactly what I posted on the suspected puppet's userpage. You are NOT describing my "behaviour", you are mischaracterizing my edits as personal attacks. Please read up on WP:NPA and excercise more caution in the future. Mackan 20:27, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

It is your interpretation. I think that I should ask the administrator for mediation. You are blaming each other to him. You are not neutrality. --Azukimonaka 20:28, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

No, it's not "my interpretation", it's the official take on it. Mackan 20:31, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

You must do the change request of TopPage to the administrator if your interpretation is universal. I know you were blaming each other to him. --Azukimonaka 20:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Brother Azuki, it is being taken care of, let Mackan do his job. Use your energies for more pleasant things, this is being fixed. No need to fight a friend. Domo arigato gozaimasu, Chris 23:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, my friend :-)--Azukimonaka 08:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Reverting

Do not revert other user's edit without providing an appropriate rationale, as you did at Korean Japanese (). If a template says "a user has expressed concern...", do not remove that template without discussion, unless you are the user which first posted the template. Also, please be careful not to break the 3 revert rule. Mackan 12:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Joji Obara

Hi, Azukimonaka. I'm happy to continue engaging in dialogue with you with regards to this article, so that we can hopefully try to come to a mutual understanding. In case you are too, I left you a question on the talk page, and I'll be glad if you could continue the discussion, rather than engaging in edit warring. Thanks, Phonemonkey 23:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

The discussion about Joji Obara became very complex. I do not understand the discussion. Therefore, I leave from the article on Joji Obara. Thank you --Azukimonaka 17:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Kimchi Onigiri

Hello. You made the following edit: with the given reason: "Kimuchi is not used for Onigiri". That is not true. One example is the Circle K press release:

「韓国風おにぎり」は、近年、韓国への旅行者のおみやげとして国内でも消費量・人気が高まっている韓国のりを使用したおにぎりです。ゴマ油と塩で独特な味付けをした韓国のりとの相性のよさという視点で新たに開発した「牛タン」(135円)と、これまでにもおにぎりの品揃えの一つとして販売してきた中で販売実績の高かった「ツナキムチ」(125円)の2品を販売いたします。

They have been selling it for several years. I will add it back to the article. Bendono 07:05, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Kombu and mugicha

Hi, in the case of kombu and mugicha, these are simply the Japanese names for food items that are also authentically Korean and not clearly of Japanese origin. For takuan/danmuji and nori/gim, these are food items of Japanese origin that are extremely popular and important in Korean cuisine, thus have been accepted by Koreans into their cuisine, and thus are part of Korean cuisine. As such, they merit a "Korean cuisine" category to bring our readers to all the foods that are part of the daily lives of Koreans in their cuisine. This is not about national pride but about accurately documenting which foods are consumed and produced in each nation, and part of that nation's cuisine. Badagnani 19:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't agree that kombu/dashima or mugicha/bori cha are "Korean Japanese cuisine" or "Japanese Korean cuisine." They are food items produced and consumed as part of the traditional cuisines of both Japan and Korea. As far as I know, takuan/danmuji is a Japanese-produced product but nori/gim is a Japanese invention that has been absorbed into Korean cuisine and used in several Korean dishes. So each ingredient has a different story.

I think that you are wrong of me. Konbu is a tradition dish completed in Japan. And, it was exported to Korea by Japan. And, you should divide Gim from Nori. --Azukimonaka 19:57, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

"Japanese Korean cuisine" is a confusing name because it isn't clear whether this is Japanese food in Korea, Korean food in Japan, or food made by Japanese Koreans. Would it be the equivalent of American Chinese cuisine or Korean Chinese cuisine? Badagnani 19:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

So you're saying that the Japanese "own" the genus Laminaria? And you believe nori and gim are not the same food? For the first, I don't agree, and for the second you may be correct, as in my experience nori seems smoother and has less holes than Korean-produced gim. Badagnani 20:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Which "This is Korean food" or "This is Japanese Korean cuisine" do you use when you introduce Takuan? I select "Takuan is Japanese cuisine". --Azukimonaka 20:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Takuan is a Japanese invention and Japanese-produced product that has been accepted into Korean cuisine as an ingredient in Korean dishes that are not found in Japan. Thus, it merits a category "Korean cuisine" as it's verifiably a very popular and prevalent ingredient in Korean cuisine. As I've explained before. And is explained in the article. Badagnani 20:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I think that Kimuchi is Korean food though a lot of Japanese consume Kimuchi. (Kimchi is not Japanese food). Am I wrong? --Azukimonaka 20:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The question is not whether it's "Korean food" but whether it has become an important part of Japanese cuisine. I don't know enough about how kimchi/kimuchi is used in Japan. Certainly it's used in the Korean cuisine of Japan, but I don't know if Japanese people use kimchi in their own recipes, the way Koreans eat takuan/danmuji in Korean recipes. Badagnani 20:12, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Is the recipe of Takuan of Korea original of Korea?　I am searchable of the document of South Korea and Japan. Please write recipe and the history of Takuan in Korea more in detail. --Azukimonaka 20:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I just explained very clearly that takuan/danmuji is Japanese in origin, but adopted as a very popular and prevalent ingredient in Korean dishes. I'm not sure how much more clear I can be about that. Badagnani 21:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

No, you are not introducing original recipe of South Korea at all. A lot of Japanese food is being imported by South Korea. Therefore, I think that it should thoroughly talk about this problem. I can offer a lot of information. Let's discuss it. To a thorough target. --Azukimonaka 21:16, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

If you make an article about Japanese cuisine as eaten by Koreans, there should also be one for Korean foods as eaten in Japan (such as kimuchi, bibinba, galubi, etc.). Badagnani 20:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

OK. I will make Japanese Korean cuisine and Korean Japanese cuisine. --Azukimonaka 20:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

We are not speaking of "original recipe of South Korea" but important items used in Korean cuisine, which danmuji clearly is. Badagnani 21:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

A large amount of oolong tea and Mugicha are consumed in South Korea. Why is only Mugicha a South Korea beverage?　--Azukimonaka 19:29, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

First of all, in Korea this tea is called "bori cha," and is a Korean tea made of roasted unhulled barley that I believe is basically identical to the Japanese mugicha. Secondly, all Koreans I know don't regularly drink or enjoy oolong tea and tell me "it is not Korean." Thus, I believe it to be a food item that is not accepted by Koreans as a major part of their cuisine. If you support adding a "Korean cuisine" category for Oolong tea, we should get more input from other editors knowledgeable in Korean cuisine. Badagnani 19:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

"Bori-Cha" and "Mugi-Cha" will be able to be divided. "Nori" and "Kim" will be able to be divided. --Azukimonaka 19:38, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I suggest that "roasted barley tea" be the new article name (in English), and that it include both mugicha and boricha as subheadings. For "nori" and "gim" I think two separate articles would work, as the two products aren't made in exactly the same way. Badagnani 22:36, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

It is correct to introduce Mugicha and boricha in roasted barley tea. And According to my investigation, Kim is Nori that painted oil. And, it is original of Korea. --Azukimonaka 10:08, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Notability of Kaneko Anji

A tag has been placed on Kaneko Anji, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Misplaced Pages guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. --Finngall 21:41, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I found him with Japanese war crimes. He did not get the edit done at all. Therefore, I edited it. My article is based on Kaneko Anji of a Japanese version. see 金子安次--Azukimonaka 10:04, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not completely understanding what you're saying here, but I'll try to explain myself more fully. I tagged the article for deletion because there were no references cited to support any of the facts about him, and because while he was mentioned as participating in Japanese war crimes, there was nothing to indicate his specific role in these crimes and nothing to indicate why he is particularly notable compared with any other soldier. I hope this helps, and if you have more questions, I will try to answer them as well as I can. Thank you. --Finngall 23:57, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

White Day

I agree that White Day is a Japanese holiday. However, South Korea now also celebrates it. Therefore it is now part of South Korean culture. Just because it is part of Japanese culture does not mean it is not part of South Korean culture. The article itself states that South Korea celebrates White Day: "White Day is celebrated in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and some other East Asian countries…". Also, this article talks about White Day celebrations in South Korea. Foobaz·o< 02:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

White Day is one of the Japanese cultures that become popular in South Korea. (As well as countries of Taiwan and Asia) Did White Day do original development in South Korea?　--Azukimonaka 17:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

No, it didn't. For something to be part of South Korean culture, it does not need to have developed in South Korea. Japan created White Day, but it is now part of the culture in other countries, including South Korea. Foobaz·o< 19:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes. I corrected the culture of South Korea to the culture of Asia. Please write what is wrong. --Azukimonaka 02:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

The fact that South Korea celebrates White Day makes it part of South Korean culture. Who created White Day is irrelevant. Foobaz·o< 03:01, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

The Japanese observes Christmas. Is Christmas a Japanese culture?　--219.66.45.26 07:09, 22 July 2007 (UTC)