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You archived it. Um, why? The socks were marked as 'likely', but no action has been taken - no checkuser done, no blocks or exoneration. I'm not sure it's fair in either direction to be honest. Dibo 11:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Jpgordon ran a checkuser -- that's where the {{likely}} indicator came from. Cases are generally archived three days after CU response, this one's been up for four. As is mentioned on the WP:RFCU frontpage, the checkuser case pages are traditionally concerned only with the checkuser process, itself -- administrative actions can be undertaken by any administrator, or requested/discussed at the admin noticeboards. I would volunteer to do this, for you, at this point, but I'm not familiar with this particular situation, and I'm a bit too sleep deprived to go for any tough judgement calls, at the moment. Feel free to post at AN if you feel any blocks or such are appropriate. – Luna Santin (talk) 11:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Cheers for that, I didn't know that. Dibo 11:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

It's a little confusing, definitely. :) I'll probably stumble off to sleep, here, in a few moments, but if you have any other questions, feel free to let me know. – Luna Santin (talk) 11:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Is it allowed?

Luna, is using multiple accounts in a positive way sockpuppetry? By that I mean, will doing this:

• Helping Misplaced Pages's articles with more than one account
• Allowing certain accounts to be constructively editing on different articles so as to organize work on the project

And NOT doing this:

• Using accounts to cause disruption of any sort
• Using accounts to gain the upper hand in a dispute
• Voting multiple times on an election of any sort
• Circumventing a block (not that I would get blocked, of course)

still result in a block? Just out of curiosity. LOZ: OOT 19:43, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Provided the accounts don't interact or do anything dishonest, it's usually not a problem. The real problems with sockpuppets come up when people use them to have several voices in a discussion, or to evade 3RR, things like that. To avoid any chance of trouble, it's sometimes good to be very open about the socks, perhaps labelling them on their userpages. But WP:SOCK should go into more detail on this. Not all sockpuppetry is inherently bad, we just spend most of our time in that area focusing on the times it is. – Luna Santin (talk) 21:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

And now I find that I can't do that because User:Ryulong directly blocked my shared IP Address and account creation until October 7. I wish I had my own IP address. I wish people would stop vandalizing Misplaced Pages. It really gives us bad publicity.

But your efforts are exceptional beyond exceptional. I'm wondering though, have I done anything to vandalize or damage Misplaced Pages that you have noted as a possible mistake? LOZ: OOT 06:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Luna, I just created a new account (User:Rouge Crimson). Are there some administrators who will block me for this? I know you won't, but are there some who will? LOZ: OOT 00:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not creating the account, necessarily, but more what you do with it. – Luna Santin (talk) 00:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

To organize my work here better. LOZ: OOT 01:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

YOUR COMMENT ON RYULONG's page about conflict of interest

Well, if there is a conflict of interest what is it? How can I fix it so that there is no more conflict of interest? I don't understand why there is a problem with me posting this article if the purpose of the article is to provide people with credible information. Please tell me what the conflict of interest is and how I am supposed to take care of it and remove it so that my article is uploaded and left alone. I personally do not see why I am having trouble with this and would like to be helped in solving the problem.

QuakeSim 00:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Look at it this way, if you will -- I'm somebody who's committed over a year of my time to Misplaced Pages. If I write a blog entry about Misplaced Pages, or if I go on forums and post about Misplaced Pages, am I a neutral source of information? Would I be posting to those forums for the sake of the people on the forums, or for the sake of Misplaced Pages? As I said, I haven't read up on this particular case, so I'm afraid I can't comment very specifically, but please try to understand the angle Ryulong is coming from, I suspect an angle that's wary you may be one more in a long string of people working for marketing departments and other, similar interests. – Luna Santin (talk) 00:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Stalking

Hi, Luna, as you may see for yourself, a sock of User:Bonaparte is reverting my edits en masse. Can we have him blocked for a while? --Ghirla 08:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, is that who that is? Done. – Luna Santin (talk) 09:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. He went crazy after his sock User:BOT2008BOT was exposed and banned. --Ghirla 09:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Dajcn

Dajcn (talk · message · contribs · page moves · edit summaries · count · api · logs · block log · email)

I have given an "only warning" for their impersonation of you, and what I consider severe trolling. Do you this this is appropriate? -- Anonymous Dissident 10:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Clearly that sort of behavior is problematic; in this case, it's problematic and not their first account, for the night, so I went ahead and blocked. In other news, we're up to {{user16}} in templates? Wow, heh. :p Thanks for the note, though. – Luna Santin (talk) 10:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I made {{User16}}. It sorta has the whole lot mushed in together :) Back to the subject - thanks for blocking. Nearly gave me a heart attack there... -- Anonymous Dissident 10:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I have a really weird feeling that he's similar to Dicjie for some reason....Especially after he was blocking people using your name. --DarkFalls 10:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Somehow I doubt we've seen the last of him... --DarkFalls 10:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. Thank you both. ;) I'll play this one by ear, if I happen to spot them again. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Continued Vandalism And Slander

User:Scjessey continues to vandalize my talk pages as well as using slandering remarks he deletes my suggestions in the discussion pages and gives false warnings and personal attacks in my talk pages I complained before but no action was taken please respond.Hightilidie 16:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

This is, of course, a complete falsehood. User:Hightilidie is a link spammer, adding the same link to multiple pages connected to web development and associated technologies. I have followed the proper warning procedure, which eventually resulted in User:Hightilidie receiving the 24 hour ban you gave. User:Hightilidie responded by placing a vandalism warning on my talk page, which I have removed. I am providing this additional information purely for your reviewing convenience. -- Scjessey 16:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Again more slandering remarks the same link was not posted to every article for your information a link was only submitted to the appropriate information for each article that would have been beneficial to the user. How come you didn't delete this or send me a false warning again User:Scjessey. Hightilidie 17:06, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Appears that User:Hightilidie is blocked at this time; sorry I wasn't around to offer a quicker response. – Luna Santin (talk) 21:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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Pokemon Hell

I haven't violated 3RR myself have I? I've made that mistake in the past (fortunately I learned before a block was needed and have tried carefully to avoid doing so now.

Looks like you're at 2 or 3 on all but one of the pages I'm looking at, currently. If any more sockpuppets crop up, I'll deal with them right quick; otherwise, it's probably best if this all settles down for a bit. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

2 or 3 3RR violations you mean? -WarthogDemon 22:55, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Errr, reverts. ;) An important distinction, though, heh. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:56, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I tried to avoid reverts where it'd be directly reverting to mine (though I'm not sure if that'd be canvassing...) -WarthogDemon 22:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

in response

Of course, you are absolutely right about wikipedia not being a battleground, and I will stop my "battle" accordingly. But I do want to bring to your attention the actions of my worthy opponent downwards. It seems like a fairly high percentage of his edits are aimed solely at causing people grief under the guise of enforcing policy. I will be the first to admit that I have not behaved admirably, and his actions do not excuse mine. But a look at his talk page shows countless incidents where people have tried in vain to be reasonable with him on matters only to met with a smug, condescending remark for their trouble. I just wanted to get his attention and cause him some of the consternation he has caused others, but it's over, i'm willing to be the bigger man. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KatoABJV (talk • contribs) 15 August 2007.

Certainly I can look into that sort of thing; I'm not at all concerned that two people are disagreeing, that happens quite a bit and is usually a sign of a healthy community. But these disagreements and conflicts need to be resolved productively (and peacefully), whenever possible. – Luna Santin (talk) 03:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Understandable, but this isn't really a disagreement, but a pattern of anti-social behavior I've observed coming from this editor. But it's over now, as long as he refrains from his rude comments, I have no issue with letting this go.