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Deletion of Falun Gong daughter Page

The consensus is contained within our policies as well as within the discussion. As I stated in my closing notes, I weighed the arguments made, and saw that the consensus lay with deleting the article as per WP:POVFORK, and WP:V, WP:NPOV and WP:NOR. I have asked that pertinent information be added to the article on Falun Gong. Steve block Talk 14:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

The place for the information is at Falun Gong as would be notes on possible health benefits to Tai Chi be placed in the article on Tai Chi. It is a POV fork because it was split off from the main article. As to consensus, I draw your attention to WP:CONSENSUS, namely It is assumed that editors working toward consensus are pursuing a consensus that is consistent with Misplaced Pages's basic policies and principles - especially the neutral point of view (NPOV). At times, a group of editors may be able to, through persistence, numbers, and organization, overwhelm well-meaning editors and generate widespread support among the editors of a given article for a version of the article that is inaccurate, libelous, or not neutral, e.g. giving undue weight to a specific point of view. This is not a consensus. I discounted views on the article which did not take Misplaced Pages policy into account, and then decided the consensus lay with existing policy. Like I say, I have suggested that the pertinent information be merged back into the parent article. Steve block Talk 14:21, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

The level of summarised information in the article did not warrant a simgle article, it is that which made it a POV fork. I appreciate the assumption of good faith on my part, but feel I must point out that long standing policy on Misplaced Pages is that comments can be disregarded depending on the length of time a commentator has been a member, or on the nature of the comment. Comments I disregarded, as I stated in my closure, were ones relating to the fact that they have tried the technioque and it improved their health. Such comments violate original research and have no bearing on the debate, since inclusion in Misplaced Pages is decided by policy and consensus. Disregarding those votes establishes a 12 to 6 deletion count, or 2/3 of the poll, a considerable consensus. The arguments that this information can be presented in a NPOV manner do not neccessitate the article existing, as the information can just as easily be included in the parent article. Steve block Talk 20:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

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3RR

Dilip, you are now at 3 reverts at the Li Hongzhi article. Unilateral reversion isn't the way to go, because if you revert again in contravention of the three revert rule you will likely be blocked from editing. I suggest you use the talk page to make your case, not the edit summaries. --Fire Star 火星 14:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

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Falun Gong mediation

Hello, I'm sorry it's been awhile, but I recently agreed to mediate that case. I don't know if it's a stale issue, so it would be good if a few of you let me know whether or not mediation is still needed. Since there are so many of you, I'm going to assume that all of you agree to me mediating until and unless I am told otherwise. I'm also going to assume public mediation is fine, unless someone asks for private mediation, or I come to think private mediation might be better. I would, however, appreciate it if you just said something there to let me know if you are still around. Also, assuming you are still interested in mediation, please watchlist the page if you haven't already. Thanks! Armedblowfish (talk|mail) 02:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Bosnian pyramids

Why do you want that link on that talk page when it's already on the External links section? --Ronz 01:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Li Hongzhi

Thanks. I've done my hefty share of Falun Gong research. Scientific, empirical, not to mention socio-economic. Please never talk to me again. Colipon+(T) 20:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Falun Gong

You clearly did not read a single word of what I wrote in the talk page. Investigate me, by all means! I suspect you may be the one with the "we are the victims" agenda, I have none. You could have called me a sympathiser before this, but now I am beginning to see FG for what it is. Ohconfucius 01:34, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

• Just to let you know I'm waiting for an answer from you. Ohconfucius 03:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

remember me?

I can see that my hours of effort were not appreciated, for the third time again, now. I am amazed that not only have you not bothered to apologise to me, you never even bothered to engage me on constructive changes, but instead, leaving insulting and blasé comments in the edit summary such as "I see no reason why..." without explaining yourself clearly in the discussion page, whereas I gave you clear reasons why in the talk page and the dit summary.

As an organisation that is allegedly persecuted by the Chinese Government, its "members" (using the word very loosely, for I have been equally accused of introducing concepts alien to FG into the article) seem to engage in it's fair share of the same Stalinist intolerant practices it allegedly receives in the name of "exposing the truth about the CCP". I believe there may be a witch-hunt going on -tarring all those fellow wikipedians who do not toe the official FG line as "in need of investigation". What is being implied?? that perhaps all who dare to utter unorthodoxies are sockpuppets of Samuel Luo? Why is there such paranoia? Where is the charitable tolerance (真, 善, 忍) which its esteemed leader apparently professes? Where is the assumption of good faith?

I am no fan of the CCP, the media censorship it practices, nor its human rights record, but the Epoch Times appears often to carry stories and allegations that no other respectable journal will confirm or even hint at. No-one disputes that the journal is a mouthpiece of the FG, and thus amounts to a self-published source. From what I have read here and in the related pages, quotes and stories lifted from Epoch Times are on the par with Pravda (did you know it means "truth" in Russian) and People's Daily in churning out the propaganda. Despite this, you seem to treat it as "gospel", and insist that everything that can be cited, especially if from Epoch or clearwisdom, or falundafa.org, must never be removed (see my comments on "research" (sic)). What total crap! "Exceptional claims should be supported by multiple reliable sources, especially regarding scientific or medical topics, historical events, politically charged issues, and in biographies of living people". Taking a leaf out of your own book, something quite relevant which was sourced, and which potentially embarrasses the cult is now in violation of WP:BLP? One sourced information must be deleted, and the info from self-published sources should not????? Don't make me laugh at such blatant hypocrisy.

All the above, and I have not even mentioned how the article fails horribly to meet the Manual of style, or how the large chunks of quotes and other material copied and pasted could constitute copyright violation, yet you removed the quotefarm tag I placed. I was quite clear in the discussion page that nothing was removed, only moved. But "reinserting paragraphs which were merely moved into sections below, you are indeed making a mess of the article. If you cannot even stomach that, then it just shows me that you are just edit warring in a petty minded fashion.

I will leave you to turn these pages to an extension of the epochtimes.com. I would wish you the very best of luck. Don't you worry, I will drop in from time to time to keep you on your toes. Ohconfucius 11:46, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Persecution of Falun Gong and Falun Gong

Dilip, I notice you reverted all the edits I made to the above articles today with the comment "You alabel a research thesis "minority view"?? "Persecution refers to banning".. these statemnts realy dont make sense. I dont undstnd y u keep replacn well sourced info with OR!!". I have tried to be as transpareent as possible, by breaking down my changes into numerous small edits each with a fairly accurate and detailed summary (when appropriate), and I do not appreciate a wholescale revert with flippant remarks like the one quoted which have no relevance to the majority of changes you reversed. We have been there before, let's not go there again. I am sure you did not object to everything, so after what we have been through, I think what you at least owe me is a well thought out and reasoned edit summary which accurately reflects the changes you objected to. What you wrote may be used to justify replacing all the porter stuff, but in no way justifies you to unwind all my changes. In any event, I have also reasoned my objection to the porter stuff on the talk page. Let's talk! Ohconfucius 09:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

• I have replied to you onmy talk page. Ohconfucius 13:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

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