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'''Hunt-Patzmann''' was a predominantly Bavarian-Hungarian noble family in the ] that arose in the mid-12th century by marriage of the ] and ] (the Patzmanns died out on the male side). '''Hunt-Poznan''' was a predominantly Slovak noble family in the ] that arose in the mid-12th century by marriage of the ] and ] (the Poznans died out on the male side).


Some Hungarian authors give the name as "Hontpázmány" for the later family, which is right, because Pázmány is only the name of one of the late branches of the house of Hunt-Patzmann and because all contemporary sources cite the name as "Patzmann/Pazman". Some Hungarian authors give the name as "Hontpázmány", which is wrong, because Pázmány is only the name of one of the late branches of the house of Hunt-Poznan and because all contemporary sources cite the name as "Poznan(o)/Paznan".


The family split into 8 branches in the mid-13th century. The 8 branches included: The family split into 8 branches in the mid-13th century. The 8 branches included:
*] - ] branch *] - ] branch
*branch founded by Ambróz (see ]), represented by the brothers Peter, Marcel and Fabian *branch founded by Ambróz (see ]), represented by the brothers Peter, Marcel and Fabian
*]-] branch, represented by Becend. *]-] branch, represented by Becend.
*] branch *] branch
*] of Bučany *] of Bučany
* Gečs of Nevidzany *Gečs of Nevidzany
*] (Forgáč), represented by Ondrej (the royal treasurer) *] (Forgáč), represented by Ondrej (the royal treasurer)
*] branch (arose from the Hunts) , represented by Kazimír and his sons Pangrác, Ugrin, Peter, Lampert, Ladislav and Štefan *] branch (arose from the Hunts) , represented by Kazimír and his sons Pangrác, Ugrin, Peter, Lampert, Ladislav and Štefan


The deployment of the estates of other Hungarian noble families (Diviacký, Ludanický and Branč-Lipovnícky) suggests that these families had common origin with the Hunt-Poznans. The deployment of the estates of other Slovak noble families (Diviacký, Ludanický and Branč-Lipovnícky) suggests that these families had common origin with the Hunt-Poznans.


Many independent noble families in present-day south-western Slovakia gradually arose from the above 8 branches, especially the ], counts ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] etc. Many independent noble families in present-day south-western Slovakia gradually arose from the above 8 branches, especially the ], counts ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] etc.


But according to Simonis de Keza (Gesta Hunnorum and Hungarorum (]-])) Hunt (his name means captain in old ]) and Patzman/Pazmann were ] ]s and brothers, who came to the ] in ]n princess ]’s retinue and helped ] to strengthen his rule. Originally they departed to ] to fight against Saracens, but ]’s invitation to ] and emperor ]’s death made them change their mind. Due to their brave and effective help they got enormous region in northern part of nascent ]. The centre of this region and administrative area was ] earth fort in the ] (Ipoly) valley. According to tradition Poznan built a separated fort in the vicinity of Hunt’s castle. The area governed by Hunt and Poznan knights contained area of later ], ], and ] counties. After organising counties around Nógrád and Gömör castles the new administrative areas separated from Hont county and divided it into two parts (Hont, Small Hont). But according to Simonis de Keza (Gesta Hunnorum and Hungarorum (]-])) Hunt (his name means captain in old ]) and Poznan were ] ]s and brothers, who came to the ] in ]n princess ]’s retinue and helped ] to strengthen his rule. Originally they departed to ] to fight against Saracens, but ]’s invitation to ] and emperor ]’s death made them change their mind. Due to their brave and effective help they got enormous region in northern part of nascent ]. The centre of this region and administrative area was ] earth fort in the ] (Ipoly) valley. According to tradition Poznan built a separated fort in the vicinity of Hunt’s castle. The area governed by Hunt and Poznan knights contained area of later ], ], and ] counties. After organising counties around Nógrád and Gömör castles the new administrative areas separated from Hont county and divided it into two parts (Hont, Small Hont).


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Hunt-Poznan was a predominantly Slovak noble family in the Kingdom of Hungary that arose in the mid-12th century by marriage of the Poznans and Hunts (the Poznans died out on the male side).

Some Hungarian authors give the name as "Hontpázmány", which is wrong, because Pázmány is only the name of one of the late branches of the house of Hunt-Poznan and because all contemporary sources cite the name as "Poznan(o)/Paznan".

The family split into 8 branches in the mid-13th century. The 8 branches included:

  • Svätý Jur - Pezinok branch
  • branch founded by Ambróz (see Poznan family), represented by the brothers Peter, Marcel and Fabian
  • Šišov-Hradná branch, represented by Becend.
  • Sek branch
  • Gečs of Bučany
  • Gečs of Nevidzany
  • Forgách (Forgáč), represented by Ondrej (the royal treasurer)
  • Bin branch (arose from the Hunts) , represented by Kazimír and his sons Pangrác, Ugrin, Peter, Lampert, Ladislav and Štefan

The deployment of the estates of other Slovak noble families (Diviacký, Ludanický and Branč-Lipovnícky) suggests that these families had common origin with the Hunt-Poznans.

Many independent noble families in present-day south-western Slovakia gradually arose from the above 8 branches, especially the Forgách, counts of Jur and Pezinok, Batthányi, Pogányi, Szegi, Pázmány, Fanciskay, Ders, Bánki, Endrédy etc.

But according to Simonis de Keza (Gesta Hunnorum and Hungarorum (1282-1285)) Hunt (his name means captain in old German language) and Poznan were German knights and brothers, who came to the Carpathian Basin in Bavarian princess Giselle’s retinue and helped king Stephen I to strengthen his rule. Originally they departed to Sicilia to fight against Saracens, but Grand Prince Géza’s invitation to Hungary and emperor Otto II’s death made them change their mind. Due to their brave and effective help they got enormous region in northern part of nascent Kingdom of Hungary. The centre of this region and administrative area was Hont earth fort in the Ipeľ (Ipoly) valley. According to tradition Poznan built a separated fort in the vicinity of Hunt’s castle. The area governed by Hunt and Poznan knights contained area of later Hont, Nógrád, and Gömör-Kishont counties. After organising counties around Nógrád and Gömör castles the new administrative areas separated from Hont county and divided it into two parts (Hont, Small Hont).

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