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WELCOME #2

Welcome, Reb Yid. Stop by and join WP:JEW. See you around. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 03:07, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello

I believe you intended well, but please note that any form of attention exacerbates the matter. (see: Misplaced Pages:don't feed the trolls. Thanks. --woggly 07:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Since you've popped up on my watchlist, you're obviously the right guy to confirm, or not, my point here - "no ethnic slur" section Johnbod 14:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Doctor of Philosophy

Thank you for experimenting with Misplaced Pages. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. --Orange Mike 17:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I thought that might be what happened. Sholem aleichem. --Orange Mike 17:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Input needed about Hasidic dispute

Hi Yidisheryid, Vus Macht Ihr?: Please take a look at Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-04-29 Mezhbizh (Hasidic dynasty). If you are able to help in any way with the issues it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. A Groysen Yasher Koach! IZAK 20:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

will have time will definitely give a look at length and voice my opinion thanks for caring.--yidi 12:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Yiddish interwiki

Thank you for adding Yiddish interwiki link. Please take a moment to review meta:Interwiki sorting order. It states that on the English Misplaced Pages, interwiki links are sorted by the alphabet, based on local language. Therefore, yi: is between uk: and zh:. Thank you. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 12:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if this so important since the intwerwikis gets sorted out by the bots anyways and Hebrew to English fonts is really hard to play around but i will try thanks for the comment.--זלמן לייב 10:57, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Your input would be helpful

As you have contributed to the page for Category:Antisemitism, would you please look at Talk:Jerry Klein’s 2006 Radio Experiment. I have been debating another editor on whether its mention of the Holocaust renders it worthy of inclusion in the Category:Antisemitism. Your comments would be appreciated, either it does not qualify as I suggest or I have misunderstand the category. Either way your opinion would be helpful.--Wowaconia 18:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Request for edit summary

When editing an article on Misplaced Pages there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you. – Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:35, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Request for edit summary

When editing an article on Misplaced Pages there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field - please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you. – Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hello. Thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. I noticed that one or more recent edit(s) you made did not have an edit summary. You can use the edit summary field to explain your reasoning for an edit, or to provide a description of what the edit changes. Summaries save time for other editors and reduce the chances that your edit will be misunderstood. For some edits, an adequate summary may be quite brief.

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Please provide an edit summary for every edit you make. With a Misplaced Pages account, you can give yourself a reminder by setting Preferences → Editing → Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary (or the default undo summary), and then click the "Save" button. Thanks! -- Doctormatt 18:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Amah.jpg

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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI 15:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

The book covers help illustrate the subject, make the article more readable, and are about publications that are very important in relation to the article. Please don't remove them without discussing it first.--יודל 16:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

You need to add a fair-use rationale to the image, or they will remove it. See WP:NFCC. Reinis 17:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

RE: Creationism

Please see the discussion about the lead on the article talk page. I'm not the authority on what the lead must look like, so you should bring the question to all the editors there and reach a consensus. And frankly, I'm having a hard time understanding what you are trying to say. Reinis 17:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

All i am trying to say is that this belief is the traditional and mostly religious view on life. Thanks for the link i will read it over to see if it has something against my edit.--יודל 17:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Creationism, by its definition, is always religious. Reinis 17:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

That is the popular stance, but if you will ask some leading creationists, they will deny this and proclaim that it is pure science.--יודל 17:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

They are an extremely small minority. See WP:UNDUE. Reinis 17:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Minority indeed but they are the leading brains underneath this whole movement. This vocation is in some eyes for instance Richard Dawkins very controversial since he sees them very misleading. Nevertheless those are the leading voices in the movement. What point are you trying to make with WP:UNDO?--יודל 17:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

It's WP:UNDUE, not WP:UNDO, and I didn't say that "creationists and religious belief people are one in the same." Anyway, please do as I said and go argue about your changes on the article talk page, not with me privately. Reinis 17:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Please be clear and say what do u want from me? U say clearly that u dont have a clue what i am talking about so please be open why you have decided to revert my edits without due process and trying to force me to talk to others while u don't give me any issue u found flawed with my edits?--יודל 17:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I want you to stop adding bad edits to articles. Reinis 18:06, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Please don't call it bad, try to explain what's so bad and i will understand what bothers u. Thanks so much for erasing my bad edits, better half edits then non at all.--יודל 18:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

It is true they are "leading" brains behind the movement, but constitute much less than 1% and even 0.1% of the relevant scientists (see level of support for evolution). They are closer to "crackpots" than real scientists.--Filll 17:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately (maybe only for u, or of them) those scientists you call crackpots are the leading figures in the creationist movement. Like it or not, it is part of the knowledge called fact.--יודל 18:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

warning and question

We don't do facts here, we do attributable reliable sources with the views expressed dealt with in a neutral balanced way, without reverting three times so I'll leave this reminder: You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors.

It's not clear to me just who the "scientists you call crackpots are the leading figures in the creationist movement" refers to. If it's the IDists, they claim not to be creationists at the same time as they claim that their thesis is science. See the article talk page. .. dave souza, talk 19:49, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello please read before commenting, it was another user who called them crackpots. what do u want from me?--יודל 19:54, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I was citing you, I didn't say you'd called them crackpots. As long as you know who they are, and provide reliable sources expressing the same opinion, them we can consider your claims. Rather than edit warring to make changes which, quite frankly, look incoherent, please set out your proposals on the article talk page. With sources. .. dave souza, talk 21:33, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

listen my edit was clear enough, all you do is talk about my words in the reasining behind that edit. say clearly what is your problem with the edit and i will fix it don't argue here becouse i don't see one single think we disagree here. is it a problem to write that the belief in a creator is traditinal? i don't think so. is the wording proper i believe yes. u believe not tell me why? and we will go on to the next subject--יודל 21:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Creationism is not traditional, only their basic Belief

If you find yourself with excess energy and want to edit such topics, might I suggest you consider:

• Allegorical interpretations of Genesis
• Framework interpretation (Genesis)
• Creation (theology)
• Genesis
• Creation according to Genesis
• Adam
• origin belief
• Creator deity
• Creationist cosmologies
• Similarities between the Bible and the Qur'an
• Dating Creation
• Chronology of the Bible
• Special creation

Many of these are in sad shape and need assistance.

Creationism (as distinguished from creatianism) is a specialized sort of movement. And it is not always "traditional" by any means, since some variants of creationism rely on biblical literalism, and/or biblical inerrancy, which many scholars rejected well over 1000 years ago. It relies on a particular interpretation of one set of religious texts or another, and as such it is usually at its root a hermeneutic dispute, and one that often rejects scientific knowledge.--Filll 17:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Fill on every word but still those crackpots belong in this broader group of people with this very ancient traditionalist world view that life is created. And this is a broad general basic very traditional outlook on life on which the movement in whole is based on. Thanks very much for commenting. I am not saying the movement in itself is traditional, indeed they themselves deny this. All i am saying is that the general point of their belief system is based and driven in most part by tradition which some of their leading figures claim is strict and pure science--יודל 17:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:User yi-0

Shalom! Can you please help me to copy the sentence from the userbox in Yiddish Misplaced Pages, and then put into that box? Thanks a lot! --Edmund the King of the Woods! 18:12, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

User does not speak, and doesn't understand Yiddish--יודל 18:17, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Anti-Zionism

Yidisheryid, please stop your vandalism. I have reverted your edits and will be closely monitoring your future edits. --Eidah 14:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Please do not make a fool out of yourself editing out articles that are not anti Zionists is not vandalism although we may disagree on this edits, please talk why those articles are defined by a belief that Zionism is not true judaism but that doesn't mean they are defined by being anti it. all Jewish groups don't believe in Zionism as a true ideology that does not make them all anti Zionists--יודל 14:11, 28 August 2007 (UTC) --יודל 14:11, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

August 2007

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created yourself, as you did with Yeshayah Rosenberger. If you do not believe the article should be deleted, then please place {{hangon}} on the page (please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag) and make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. You can't just remove the template with the "I don't have time, but he is notable." line. Yossiea 15:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I did not create myself that article--יודל 21:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Misplaced Pages, as you did to Haredim and Zionism, you will be blocked from editing. You are vandalizing the page. RZ and MO are not the same. Your edits are nonsense and don't read well in English. Please cease and desist. Yossiea 13:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)