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Opening sentence
I removed "Emmy and Peabody Award-winning" from the opening sentence. The opening sentence should simply state who or what the subject of the article is. Winning awards is something The Simpsons has done, but it's not what the show is. A common response to this is "but it's true that they've won awards". Well yes, but it's trying to cast the show in a "positive light" and this kind of phrasing is something you expect from a press release and not an encylopedia. The awards can of course be put later in the lead, but not the opening sentence. Slayer, a recent front page FA had a hidden message in the first sentence saying "Do not add Grammy winning here". Spellcast 12:33, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- Why shouldn't the fact that it has won awards be included in the opening paragraph? It is a fact that I would expect to see in an encyclopedia. If we were talking about some music album, that would be one of the few things that the album is notable for; obviously The Simpsons is notable for many things. bmitchelf•T•F 16:24, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you look at the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Neutral_point_of_view#POV in first sentence?, consensus shows that it is bias to put awards in opening sentences (unless the award is very groundbreaking in some way). The subject of this article is The Simpsons, not their awards. Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but it's inherently POV to start off the subject with awards. It's usually a piece of verbal fluff that you find in things like magazine articles. Spellcast 04:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
- The removal is very reasonable, and besides, the award stuff made the lead look a little wordy. However, I must say your basis for the removal of the awards from the lead sentence is based on a limited interpretation of NPOV and a small pool of user opinion (We would agree that "verbal fluff" is a POV, no?) I read into the aforementioned discussion and the "professional encyclopedia" defense is weak simply because Misplaced Pages is not your grandfather's index of the world, and is renowned for being different; we're not Britannica, we'll never be Britannica, and lets not waste time in trying to be Britannica. I must mention that the listing (or non-listing) of a notable award (components of style) is de facto in this project, not de jure, as the discussion implied. Several (i.e. tens of thousands) articles follow this practice and I see no rational reason to reverse this, withstanding the POV issue. I admit that in certain situations, the award being listed in the first sentence would be contentious, however, in this situation, the fact that The Simpsons has won an Emmy & Peabody has never been a cause for debate. --Jay(Talk) 05:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you look at the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Neutral_point_of_view#POV in first sentence?, consensus shows that it is bias to put awards in opening sentences (unless the award is very groundbreaking in some way). The subject of this article is The Simpsons, not their awards. Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but it's inherently POV to start off the subject with awards. It's usually a piece of verbal fluff that you find in things like magazine articles. Spellcast 04:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Production in China & Korea
"Tweening, coloring, and filming occurs at international studios." That's right, the work takes place in Korea, new opportunities in China are currently being checked....91.12.215.149 17:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
celebs
im supprised there is no mention of special appearances by the likes of michael jackson, elizabeth taylor etc. Realist2 23:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- Guest stars can be found here. -FeralDruid 23:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Songs Played In Simpson Episodes
Is there a page which lists the the songs played or sung in each episode? I've looked but I cannot find one. This would be a good idea if it is not already created. Thank you Dani948 20:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- There used to be, but a deletion discussion led to the deletion of the page. --03:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
GA
I have a question. Why was this article's GA status delisted? I am not sure, but can anyone answer this question. It would be much appreciated. Thanks. Greg Jones II 15:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Springfield what?
Although Matt Groening has said that the Simpsons' Springfield has much in common with Portland, Oregon, will we ever know which state it really is in? In the episode "Behind the Laughter," it is said that the Simpsons are a "northern Kentucky family." The increasingly curious fans will never know if Kentucky is the state in which Springfield resides. It seems that with each episode, the location of Springfield is altered in some way. The newly released movie also provides some confusing "clues" to the position of the town the Simpsons call home. On a hike Bart and Flanders took up a mountain in Springfield, the four states that border Springfield are revealed: Ohio, Nevada, Maine, and Kentucky. This might be a sign from Groening that fans will never know the location of Springfield,________. Wisojo 02:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
DUH! 02:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Actually, it's "D'oh". After all, I knew the real Homer, and, you sir, are no Homer. (I've wanted to say that for years. Actually, the real Homer as in Groening was as far from the show's Homer as a person could be.)
Springfield, Oregon, has one feature very like that in the Simpson's fictional home town: Teledyne Wa Chang, a nuclear materials handling plant that dumped used radio active materials into an open pond on its property. This pond became a huge issue in the seventies, with the company successfully resisting attempts by government and private groups to get them to clean up their act. The movie producers selection of a New England was a marketing device, so let them bask in their short glory. Those in the know. . . Jaymes ghoti 20:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
GAC review
Upon reviewing the article based on the criteria set forth at WP:WIAGA, I feel this article is very close to GA. I corrected minor mistakes myself as I read the article. Listed below are those things that need to be addressed before I list the aritcle at WP:GA.
- The second paragraph under "Opening sequence" needs citation.
- The first paragraph under "Influence on television" needs citation.
- In the third paragraph under "Merchandise", "The best known single is "Do the Bartman", which was co-written by Michael Jackson and became an international success." needs citation.
The nomination has been put on hold for no more than seven days while these issues are addressed. Let me know if you have any questions or disagree with any of my recommendations. Regards, Lara♥Love 07:05, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Done and done. -- Scorpion 13:19, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well I added refs to all the things you said, but I'm still not sure exactly what you meant for the TV influence section, although I did ref the South Park point. Gran 13:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- The article has been listed at WP:GA under Media subcategory of the Social Sciences and Society category. Thank you for your hard work. In improving this article, you have improved Misplaced Pages. Regards, Lara♥Love 17:25, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Can someone tell me how to do this?
If you look at the page for ANY South Park episode, on the far right there is a list of all the episdoes in that season. This is in the simpsons too, but in the South Park version there are two arrows at the bottom of the list that link to the preivious seasons episodes and the next seasons episodes. I think this should be included in the simpsons pages because it makes navigation extremely easy. You can easily surf the seasons looking for a specific episode, where as in the simpsons you have to go to the "list of episodes" everytime. This is very annoying. I would do it but I don't know how. Can someone tell me exactly how to do it?
- I gave it a try, and I couldn't figure out how to do it. It's not really THAT hard to surf seasons, afterall, there is a master list of episodes. -- Scorpion 23:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah but I just want to bring the simpsons up to speed with south park. it is a better show after all. My main question is wether the change in code to make the arrows has to be done for every single episode. I'm making an accont soon instead of just doing it at school and i want this to be one of my acheivments.--203.27.231.250 00:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- There really is no problem with the format as it is, and South Park uses an OLDER style of code. I really disagree with completely changing everything just for something as trivial as "next season". There is a link to the list of episodes, that ought to be enough. -- Scorpion 01:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah i suppose it is pretty trivial but it would still be handy. anyway can someone tell me how to do it?--User:203.27.231.250|203.27.231.250]] 04:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- There really is no problem with the format as it is, and South Park uses an OLDER style of code. I really disagree with completely changing everything just for something as trivial as "next season". There is a link to the list of episodes, that ought to be enough. -- Scorpion 01:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah but I just want to bring the simpsons up to speed with south park. it is a better show after all. My main question is wether the change in code to make the arrows has to be done for every single episode. I'm making an accont soon instead of just doing it at school and i want this to be one of my acheivments.--203.27.231.250 00:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Swedish dub?
It is stated in the article that the show has been dubbed into Swedish. However, if that's true (no sources for that) it has never aired on Swedish TV. In the main article about the subject, a swedish dub isn't mentioned. Since the simpson article is protected, could someone please change this minor, yet annoying, error. 81.170.134.178 01:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- According to this, the show airs on ZTV. I don't known if it's dubbed in Swedish, though. Zagalejo 03:05, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- I just copied it from this , which is clearly cited. Gran 06:30, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Quayle or Bush?
I'm pretty sure it was Dan Quayle who made the comment about The Waltons (not George W. Bush). Laurel Papworth 22:10, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- You're wrong. There's video of Bush saying it, it's included as an extra in the season 4 DVD. It was also shown at the very beginning of Stark Raving Dad. -- Scorpion 22:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Question
What's the name of the episode in which Homer takes a journey through a desert? The desert has a fake Marge, a talking fox/coyote and I think a giant pyramid. Zeldabalooney2006 05:18, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
- El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer (The Mysterious Voyage of Homer). If you have any other general Simpsons questions, feel free to drop me a message at my talk page. These pages are mostly reserved for discussions about the Misplaced Pages articles themselves. Zagalejo 05:45, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Question
is the simpsons rated R+18, R+15, R, MA+18, MA+15, MA, M, PG, or G? i know that it wouldn't be rated R+18, R+15, R, MA+18, MA+15, MA, or M but i just put it there for fun. also it probably wouldn't be rated G because it has some drug referances, sexual referances, some course language E.T.C, E.T.C and yeah —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sylvan wu (talk • contribs) 07:18:56, August 19, 2007 (UTC).
- its rated pg on some eps and tv14 on others--Olavid 06:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed something weird
I ust noticed something. I watched the old Treehouse of Horror episode "Homer Simpson and the Devil". The donut Flandevil (if you watched it, you understood) gives Homer is exactly like the one in the Simpsons Movie title. But I am not sure in which article trivia I should place it. In the Treehouse of Horror IV article, in the main Simpsons article, or the movie article? I can forget about the movie article because I can`t post anything. So I have two choices left. Where should I place this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamesrcool (talk • contribs) 22:36, August 23, 2007 (UTC).
- Preferable nowhere. It is most likely a coincidence, because how many possible designs for a Simpsonized doughnut are there? And the show has a tradition of using pink Doughnuts, like in Stark Raving Dad. If an article is published in which a member of the production staff admits that the similarity is intentional, then it should go into an article. -- Scorpion 22:40, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- that dounut is what most simpsons donuts look like, though you bring a good point, I think this episode where that donut design originated--Olavid 06:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Main page update
I think I'm going to request December 17, as it is the day that Simpsons Roasting first aired, although I won't be able to do so until November. I was going to request September 23, but I would like a Simpsons FA to hit the main page on a day that doesn't make it seem like advertising. -- Scorpion 01:40, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Jack Kricfalusi
The creator of Ren and Stimpy doesn't think too much of The Simpsons, as well as South Park and Family Guy. Should that be included? --78.16.24.52 20:38, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- Do you have a source? If so, then it probably could be included. -- Scorpion 00:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Minor edit needed - page appears locked
Can someone change the "Setting" section so that it does not read "the show has become intentionally deceptive in regard to Springfield's location". It shoud say intentionally evasive. It has never tried to deceive, but does evade the issue, for example having someone stand in front of a map just as someone points to Springfield, so we can't see where they're pointing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.161.52 (talk) 22:14, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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