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User banned because of wrong accusations and misbehavior of admins

I (and a few others) need your help and advice. Is there any way to contact you via E-Mail? Please write your answer here. Thank you. 82.83.152.225 03:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

To email him, you have to set up an account with an email address. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 03:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

This is not possible. My IP has been accused many times of being the IP of a sockuser or the banned user. So I do not want to make the impression that I am a sockpuppet user. I am writing to you because of User:Tajik who was banned because of wrong accusations (as has been now confirmed in a new checkuser file). Since then, he has retreated from (the English) Misplaced Pages and usually does not react to emails. His ban was endorsed by an ArbCom whithout giving him the chance to defend himself. He was prevented from participating in the ArbCom because of the wrong accusation (i.e. that he uses sockpuppets). In that process, he was banned from Misplaced Pages. Now, many months after the ArbCom, a new checkuser file has confirmed that the accusations against him were wrong. Many users have protested back then, but the responsible admins (some of them notorious for their unorthodox methods) still refuse to admit their mistakes and to unblock him, or to start a new ArbCom. Since then, countless other users have been banned, alledgedly all of them sockpuppets of User:Tajik. These include User:German-Orientalist, an Iranologist from Dortmund, Germany, and User:DerDoc, an Austrian physical doctor from Vienna. Countless others have been accused by User:Atabek (a very controversial Wikipedian), including User:Ariana310, User:Beh-nam, and User:Mardavich - but checkuser proved that these users are unrelated. A neutral admin needs to investigate the case, because I and a few others have the impression that some people just wanted to muzzle Tajik. In case of the very first accusation which got Tajik banned, the admin who banned him did not have any checkuser proofs. He simply banned him because of the similarity of their names (!!!). The alledged sockpuppet was User:Tajik-Professor, a well known sockpuppet of a another user, namely User:NisarKand (a banned user who propagated pro-Taliban POV), and a declared enemy of Tajik (in fact, he had vandalized Tajik's user page, calling him a "rat"). An admin (I do not know his name) had told Tajik to contact Jimbo Wales. As far as I know, Tajik wrote an email to him. But he did not receive any reply. So, now I am writing him, asking for help. The Turkey-, Iran-, Caucasus-, and Afghanistan-related articles are a mess and subject to constant conflicts and edit wars. Tajik was one of the very few who took care of these article, contributed to at least 3 FA articles, and 4 or 5 "good articles". He earned the respect of academics, such as User:Ali_doostzadeh and Oxford academic User:Sikandarji (with whom he completed the article Babur, now a GA). I worked with him on Afghanistan-related articles, including Afghanistan and Gardez. Since he got banned, all Afghanistan-related articles have become messy again, filled with POV. It's interesting that all sockpuppet accusations began after Tajik was banned. Not even the responsible admins claim that he had any sockpuppets before. Even if the accusations were true: the abuse of sockpuppets certainly started after Tajik was banned because of a wrong accusation. Your and Jimbo's help is needed. See also Tajik's last message on his talk page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.152.225 (talk • contribs)

I've always wondered what the odds were of two different people, each innocent of sockpuppetry accusations, would meet. Abusive sock accusations, especially the kind where ArbCom becomes involved, are so infrequent when measured against the size of the project and the number of editors, that the probability must be fantastic. That such an event has occurred above is truly indicative of what a small world we live in. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 15:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello ... this is User:Tajik. A fried told me to write here ... A while ago, I was banned by User:Thatcher131. Now CheckUser has confirmed that the accusations against me were wrong. ... I need your help, Jimbo. Admin User:Alex Bakharev told me to ask you for help. -80.171.47.194 12:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Finally!!! Why didn't you asnwer my emails?!?!?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.154.218 (talk) 16:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know much about the case of User:Tajik and I will not comment. However, I am aware of a case where a person personally know to me Anwari Begum was banned permanently probably because her name was similar to another user, Anwar saadat, and her first edit was to Ajith Kumar, a page with which Mr. Anwar saadat was also involved. From that day of November, 2006, I became a little skeptical of the process of banning users on guesstimate without proper and complete investigation. In fact, myself and Anwar saadat Anwari Begum (her screen name), were logging on to Misplaced Pages from the same Internet Public Outlet in Chennai at that time as my home internet connection was down for weeks for technical reasons. --Bhadani (talk) 16:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Good editor

I used to be a vandal on other wikis. But then I stopped. I don't know any other stewards, but can I be a patroller?--Dummmmmmy 16:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

A recent changes patroller? Of course you can! You needn't seek permission to patrol the recent changes. That's why it is so readily available to anyone - the 3rd bullet point option down in the interaction box to the left. :-) Be sensible though with it though. Lradrama 08:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I think he's talking about patrolled edits, something we've not implimented here. --Deskana (talky) 13:36, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

"Yet," if some people have anything to say about it...=David_(contribs) 16:57, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

i was treated badly

I was unilaterally blocked as sock of someone else, without any sockpuppetry case nor checkuser, by an admin who calls himself Category:Rouge_admins. Please give a look at user talk:lara bran and user talk:vinay412. I edited using new accounts so as to hide my ip for privacy from non-admins. Thanks. Affirmative so 15:26, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Well Jimbo Wales is never about to respond to this message, because he rarely ever responds to messages on this talk page, but if you have been blocked as a sockpuppet, and if you give away the account that was blocked you will end up blocked as another sockpuppet. You will have to email the blocking admin. The sunder king 15:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

wiki-game

did you ever think about making a wiki-game? an online world where everyone can contribute content? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.52.15.170 (talk) 17:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Second Life? --Carnildo 19:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

CSD warnings

Jimbo, I do not expect you to answer, but someone will. The {{speedy}} templaters posted on articles where deletion is suggested have always been pink. Now, suddenly, they are white, which makes working the page significantly harder. Is there a reason for this change? Was there consensus? And if no, could someone please change it back? I do not personally know how to do this; I am sure I could figure it out, but if there has been a consensus decision (which I did not see) then that could be seen as vandalism. Help. --Anthony.bradbury 17:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure either, but it looks like Misplaced Pages talk:Template standardisation. Hut 8.5 18:03, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I've already asked at Template talk:Db-meta, it's because (as Hut points out) a standardisation of all our templates. It does look OK, just needs to be a different colour. Ryan Postlethwaite 18:06, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

It looks ok, and we can cope with it, but having templates printing in different colours is easier to work with. --Anthony.bradbury 22:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

• Could someone spell standardization, please? I will go to change the article spelling. (Boldly.) Music is my business 01:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Errr...sorry, I do not know how to change templates and such...someone? The templates and talk page all seem to have the word spelled incorrectly. Thank you. Music is my business 01:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

• I would advise against that. Mr.Z-man 01:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

"Standarisation" is an acceptable correct spelling, the British variation. Into The Fray /C 01:37, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

• ^ Now this whole thing is really embarrassing for many of the people that use Microsoft Word, dictionaries, spell check, and grammar check. 121.165.61.151 04:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Strange disappearences

Hello your highne--I mean Jimbo. There has been a strange dissapearences of image and that the images were replaced with a red "X". This can be found on {{God}} for starters. If you still see the images. It is probably my computer. Please, fellow users I have final chance to message Jimbo and I would be satisfied if he responded. This is also an important message so please do not erase it (unless you're Jimbo). This is meant to be taken politely.--Angel David 01:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

This is already being discussed at WP:VPT, and the developers are working on it. I believe that they fixed it now. Prodego 01:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Medical misinfo comparison to BLP

I finally went off on a rant about something that has been bothering me for a long time; I'm aware that our general disclaimer is supposed to cover it, but the blatant medical misinformation on Wiki has as much potential for harm as do BLPs, and I suggest that highly reliable sourcing on medical articles needs to enjoy the same kind of policy strength enjoyed by BLPs. My rant is here; I'm interested in hearing your thoughts. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

First, I would agree with you in spirit. But creating a policy that suggests we should treat articles (for sourcing or any other aspect) as medical resource guides is folly. Even indirectly suggesting it is okay for someone to get medical advice from anywhere but a medical professional is not allowable. VanTucky 18:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not suggesting that; I'm suggesting we need a more concerted, coordinated means of cleaning poorly sourced info in medical articles, as we have on BLPs. Raul has provided some useful input on the discussion at the autism page. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

That's a great idea. I just wanted to say that actually creating a separate and specific policy ala BLP that even acknowledges that we should maintain medical articles at an "advice-worthy" standard is dodgy. I guess I confused your reference to the BLP with a desire to create a new policy. VanTucky 18:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I probably confused you, since I'm generally fussed about how to fix this situation :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

No worries. Good luck with the proposal. VanTucky 20:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Image resizing and Image changing

Do you think that this new rule is good thing or bad thing because I think its stupid. DarkFalls deleted a couple of my images and put his on or left somebody elses resizing on there and it is pissing me off. I am forced to put those up for deletion because of it and I had them on this site for one or two years. DarkFalls needs to leave my pics alone or else I will try to kick him off the Administrators list because I have had enough of him and I am getting sick of him. Jimbo question only please let him answer it. Thank You.--Stco23 21:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC)