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::::::The diffs clearly show you removed A Kiwi's Strong Keep commentary, and she clearly objected to the meat cleaver and said she wanted it put back (see diffs above). I am left guessing still what you mean about me not raising an object, but if is what you are referring to, 1) AN/I is not the place to raise archival of a FARC page (try ]), and 2) you're assuming (wrongly) that I read that post. I spent the afternoon up to my ears in the very difficult task of manually converting references on ], which required my full concentration. I have just now read AN/I. At any rate, you should never remove someone's commentary, and certainly not a Strong Keep from a FARC. If you wanted to refactor it, you could have reversed the order of what you did; propose the refactoring to A Kiwi on a talk page, and do it after she agrees. She has indicated consistently for several days that she is ill, that she's having a hard time keeping up, and your deletion gave her a chunk of work to contend with. I don't know why you're so hung up on me remembering you mentioning two Yorkies while we were looking for images. ] (]) 22:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC) | ::::::The diffs clearly show you removed A Kiwi's Strong Keep commentary, and she clearly objected to the meat cleaver and said she wanted it put back (see diffs above). I am left guessing still what you mean about me not raising an object, but if is what you are referring to, 1) AN/I is not the place to raise archival of a FARC page (try ]), and 2) you're assuming (wrongly) that I read that post. I spent the afternoon up to my ears in the very difficult task of manually converting references on ], which required my full concentration. I have just now read AN/I. At any rate, you should never remove someone's commentary, and certainly not a Strong Keep from a FARC. If you wanted to refactor it, you could have reversed the order of what you did; propose the refactoring to A Kiwi on a talk page, and do it after she agrees. She has indicated consistently for several days that she is ill, that she's having a hard time keeping up, and your deletion gave her a chunk of work to contend with. I don't know why you're so hung up on me remembering you mentioning two Yorkies while we were looking for images. ] (]) 22:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
::You are mistaken, this is, in fact, what ] said. | |||
::At this time I am prepared to endorse any version of ] ''objective'' comments, as soon as she endorses it herself. As someone who holds a diametrically opposing view it would be ridiculous and unfair for me to produce that version. However, I am certainly not prepared to replace irrelevant speculation about who my personal physician is and how familiar he is with my home and I do not share your view that such information is of paramount importance to an FARC. | |||
::Why have you not answered my question, why did you not raise the slightest objection to the archival of irrelevant personal discussion on ] and yet find plenty of time to discuss my Yorkshire terriers? --] 23:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC) |
Revision as of 23:27, 22 September 2007
Refactored page
- A Kiwi's request to remove "senseless clutter".
- Zeraeph removed A Kiwi text, including her Strong Keep
- A Kiwi responded didn't expect you to use a meat cleaver. :o))Yeah, I'd like to see the good stuff put back in, even if I've said it better since. Makes my "strong keep" now look like a rather shallow knee-jerk opinion without any basis.
- I restored A Kiwi's text and Strong Keep and urged use of talk page.
- Zeraeph deleeted again.
Refactored text removed to Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/Asperger syndrome/special archive. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Also preserved here Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/Asperger syndrome/special archive as explained . --Zeraeph 21:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/Asperger syndrome archival by consent
Zeraeph's post about A Kiwi at the Administrator's Noticeboard/Incidents. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Moved from User talk:SandyGeorgia after 3 requests to resolve this on talk, and not on my page:
If you had any objections to this strategy, why did you not mention them on WP:AN/I? That omission totally bewilders me. --Zeraeph 21:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- 1) I don't know what "strategy" you're referring to. 2) Please use the talk page as suggested. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:00, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Why did you withold your objection to the archiving of inappropriate personal speculation by consent, while posting so much on WP:AN/I?--Zeraeph 22:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- If you want the FARC refactored, let an independent party do it based on consensus; it is not appropriate to remove someone else's Strong Keep, and A Kiwi clearly objected to the "meat cleaver" and the weakening of her keep. "Withold my objection"? "Inappropriate personal speculation"? Please make yourself more clear, and please do so on the appropriate talk page. I am not interested in this tangle between the two of you, and I need to ask you to confine it to the talk page of the article in question. The two of you should read and understand WP:TALK and work it out on talk. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- Why did you withold your objection to the archiving of inappropriate personal speculation by consent, while posting so much on WP:AN/I?--Zeraeph 22:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- I certainly did NOT remove her "Strong Keep" as well you know, I left it with it's timeline, related to her later, more objective, arguments. If she request that I restore specific text, at ANY time, I will do so, along with the redress.
- You still have not answered my question, why did you not raise the slightest objection to the archival of irrelevant personal discussion on WP:AN/I and yet findf plenty of time to discuss my Yorkshire terriers? --Zeraeph 22:39, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- The diffs clearly show you removed A Kiwi's Strong Keep commentary, and she clearly objected to the meat cleaver and said she wanted it put back (see diffs above). I am left guessing still what you mean about me not raising an object, but if this is what you are referring to, 1) AN/I is not the place to raise archival of a FARC page (try WT:FAR), and 2) you're assuming (wrongly) that I read that post. I spent the afternoon up to my ears in the very difficult task of manually converting references on Stuttering, which required my full concentration. I have just now read AN/I. At any rate, you should never remove someone's commentary, and certainly not a Strong Keep from a FARC. If you wanted to refactor it, you could have reversed the order of what you did; propose the refactoring to A Kiwi on a talk page, and do it after she agrees. She has indicated consistently for several days that she is ill, that she's having a hard time keeping up, and your deletion gave her a chunk of work to contend with. I don't know why you're so hung up on me remembering you mentioning two Yorkies while we were looking for images. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- You are mistaken, this is, in fact, what User:A Kiwi said.
- At this time I am prepared to endorse any version of User:A Kiwi objective comments, as soon as she endorses it herself. As someone who holds a diametrically opposing view it would be ridiculous and unfair for me to produce that version. However, I am certainly not prepared to replace irrelevant speculation about who my personal physician is and how familiar he is with my home and I do not share your view that such information is of paramount importance to an FARC.
- Why have you not answered my question, why did you not raise the slightest objection to the archival of irrelevant personal discussion on WP:AN/I and yet find plenty of time to discuss my Yorkshire terriers? --Zeraeph 23:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)