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Evidence presented by User:LuckyLouie
User:Martinphi Is a Single-Purpose Account. The Bad Kind.
Martinphi uses Misplaced Pages as a platform for advocacy. In his ongoing battle against "pseudoskeptics" and "paranormal haters", he has conducted a long term, single minded campaign to enhance the status of Parapsychology and related fringe and paranormal concepts on Misplaced Pages. IMO, he's been clearly pushing this agenda from the beginning. Just a few examples:
- "I just want to get parapsychology defined as a science on Misplaced Pages, because I keep getting "stuff" from people who say, it is not a science, there is absolutely nothing to this. I want to be able to cite it as a science, rather than just something some crazies study. "
- "Perfectblue, I have no question myself that it (Parapsychology) is a science. But you should look at the Psychic talk page. We need to get this decided as a matter of policy on Misplaced Pages....I want to have thought of all angles, because the pseudoskeptics will run roughshod over us if we don't win."
- On an article Talk Page, gives a 10th grader advice on how to recognize the subtle manifestations of psi and precognition.
- "I think it is very important for people to understand that for the purposes of Misplaced Pages, parapsychology is a science."
- Wants the Parapsychology article to feature one section larger and more prominent than others to create a specific impression on the reader.
- Adds phrases such as, "scientists who do reguard parapsychology as science " to sentences in Parapsychology article.
Such remarks as above coincide with a long period of tendentious editing of paranormal articles which is well-documented by a previous RfC and Arbcom focusing on his behavior. Despite being advised by the community that his approach was inappropriate and disruptive, his advocacy and tendentious editing continues, which he now portrays as a passionate personal effort to uphold NPOV:
- During a prolonged FA Talk Page disruption (a situation where he demanded Parapsychology be categorized as a science), he threatens, "Unless this situation is resolved, I have no choice but to do my utmost to keep articles on the paranormal or fringe science from achieving FA status, because I cannot be sure that they will be placed under the proper heading (as with Parapsychology), or that the headings will be NPOV. "
- Makes multiple accusations against administrator User:Raul654, saying he "treated this subject (Parapsychology) purely out of your own POV. That was abuse of power", and warns him, " I think you need to reconsider your use of your admin powers".
- He cites "people don't like Parapsychology" as the only reason for the dispute, claims that Parapsychology is "singled out" for lesser status" and likens the situation to "apartheid".
- Maintains in his userspace a collection of arguments promoting Parapsychology as a science "This sandbox is meant to gather and collate facts related to the status of parapsychology as a science", which he has employed as ammunition in Talk page conflicts.
- Maintains an off-Wiki essay (formerly posted in his Userspace) espousing his views of how Parapsychology and paranormal subjects must be treated on Misplaced Pages and alleging these views were "censored" by Misplaced Pages. (In the last 24 hours, he has edited the essay to remove the large display header which read, "THIS CONTENT WAS CENSORED ON WIKIPEDIA". A snapshot of the unsanitized version may be viewed here: ) The essay features links at the top of the page to anti-Misplaced Pages material by Dean Radin and Tom Butler, two paranormal proponents who also claim their fringe views are censored by Misplaced Pages.
- Maintains in his userspace a collection of edit summaries (Pre-marked "rv per Arbcom") for use in reverting unwanted changes to paranormal articles, which he has employed often.
I don't feel this Request for Arbitration is driven by bad faith, but by an observable pattern of persistent behavior. During periods when Martinphi is under scrutiny by RfC or Arbcom, he will proclaim innocence, moderate his tendentiousness, and make "showpiece" edits and concessions which portray him as civil and objective. But as soon as the threat of sanction has passed, he returns to pushing his POV agenda at an accelerated pace.
At present, Martin appears totally unable/unwilling to recognize that his POV-Warrior behavior is problematic and that Misplaced Pages is not a suitable place to battle perceived systemic bias against Parapsychology and the paranormal. Judging by the links being recently collected in his Userspace such asWikiProject Countering Systemic Bias and Removal Of Adminship, I foresee future disruptions from Martinphi ahead.
Martinphi games the system
- 23:42, 21 October 2007 Martinphi cites a specific section of policy to support evidence of possible abuse by User:Raul654.
- 23:58, 22 October 2007 Martinphi then makes nonconsensus, nondiscussed edits to that specific section of policy, changing "simple" to "obvious" .
Martinphi has added an additional hurdle by specifying that vandalism must be "obvious" in order to warrant page protection by an Administrator. This can be taken as a possible attempt to bolster his claims against User:Raul654. Even if unintentional, Martin's editing of policy pages is highly problematic, because it effectively prevents his actions from being evaluated on the basis of the policies as they existed at the time of his actions.
Martinphi has a deeply flawed understanding of Misplaced Pages policy and process
Actively misrepresents recent Arbcom decisions in multiple Articles and Talkspaces:
- "This is not really open to interpretation; parapsychology is serious science, and deserves to be recognized as such"
- Cites Arbcom to enforce his personal definition of psychic powers: "Rv POV pushing. You will just have to get used to the ArbCom"
- Removes "supposed" from definitions of paranormal abilities. Reduces "those who dispute" to "some who dispute": "Rv per ArbCom on the paranormal - Adequate framing"
- Removes "supposed" from definitions of paranormal abilities, minimizes lack of scientific acceptance: "Revert per recent ArbCom on the paranormal"
Actively misrepresents WP:NPOV and WP:FRINGE:
- Argues in Talk:Telepathy:"skeptics need not be given equal time, nor does skepticism need to be part of the definition."
Cites his own uniquely skewed interpretations of policy, rather than the policy itself:
- "This is the definition, please see Paranormal page, Talk page for this article, and User:Martinphi/Paranormal_practicum#The_meaning_of_.22paranormal.22"
- "The "sources inside the field" thing is a very important principle on Misplaced Pages. See User:Martinphi/Paranormal_primer#Parapsychology_is_a_scientific_field for more."
Rejects community input asking him to modify his tendentiousness:
- "The accusations of tendentiousness are only the result of other editor's mis-interpretations of the rules. That is the sole reason I am accused of tendentiousness. "
Refuses to allow that his judgement might be in error:
- "There is absolutely no case against me if I correctly interpret the rules. If I do not correctly interpret the rules, then the rules need to be amended for clarity "
I encourage Arbitrators to read all diffs in context. I especially encourage the Arbitration Committee to invest the time to fully read and comprehend Martin's self-made "Paranormal Primer" which appears to guide his views and behavior as a Misplaced Pages editor.
Evidence presented by Wikidudeman
Martinphi frequently assumes bad faith
- calls good faith edit from ScienceApologist vandalism
- keeps links from out of context edits from me to use against me in case of some future request for adminship
- user throws AGF out the window and accuses Raul of "abusing admin powers"
- More examples of not AGF
- More examples of not AGF
- user ADMITS he does not assume good faith
- user states he denies good faith for another editor
Martinphi frequently insults other editors
- calls Science Apologist 'vandal'
- user calls established editors and administrators "trolls"
- user states that it's "even worse" that Raul is an arbitrator
- user references perceived censorship and encourages other similar users not to change their editing habits due to the "trollishness" of others
Martinphi threatens to hijack wikipedia
Other troublesome edits from Martinphi
- claims that parapsychology is "singled out" for special scrutiny
- user keeps lists of types of articles or edits to revert on paranormal articles
Martinphi has used sockpuppets in a disruptive manner, and also lied about it initially
Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Martinphi
Other attempts have been made and have failed to resolve problems with Martinphi
Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Martinphi
No attempt to altercate
No attempt was made by me or luckylouie to cause an "altercation" between Martinphi and ScienceApologist. The talk page discussion that Tom Butler cites is totally misrepresented by him. ScienceApologist was making substantial edits to the Electronic voice phenomena article. There was an informal mediation occurring on the article's talk page and I left him a note informing him of this and requested that he not make edits that might be disputed. LuckyLouie commented that Martinphi had been making edits to the article. Since I had previously requested that ScienceApologist not edit the article, I left a note on Martinphi's page requesting that he also not edit the page until properly discussed. I left a note on ScienceApologist's page informing of the note left on Martinphi's page. There was absolutely no attempt to cause an "altercation" between Martinphi and ScienceApologist. My assumption is that Tom Butler didn't even read the post of mine or LuckyLouies.
Evidence presented by User:Tom Butler
The evidence shows that Martinphi has been an active editor, and has contributed to many articles that are controversial, and clearly marked by the Rational Skepticism Project ] as targets for inclusion of the Skeptical Dictionary viewpoint. I think it would be impossible for anyone who does not accept that radical viewpoint to be an active editor without irritating Rational Skepticism Project members. Keep in mind that Martinphi has made some very good contributions and only some are contested by the Rational Skepticism people--especially the signee of this grievance.
Things User:Martinphi has done to help
Things Martinphi has done as a cooperative editor
Wikidudeman asked ScienceApologist to help out on the Electronic Voice Phenomena] article], which he did by making unilateral edits to bias it toward the skeptical view ]. Martinphi restored the intro and asked ScienceApologist to discuss the changes first ].
LuckyLouie egged ScienceApologist on concerning what is and is not allowed for references, demonstrating that he and Wikidudeman are using ScienceApologist as a champion ].
Wikidudeman hosted a sandbox for the Parapsychology article rewrite]. Several people, myself included, felt that their input was ignored during the process. Later Wikidudeman made the same proposal for the article ]. His proposal was rejected several times. Subsequently Martinphi eventually was instrumental guiding the article to the point he and others felt it was ready for "outside" opinion and submitted it for Good Article status. That was rejected, but Martinphi is now one of the editors working with one of the "judges" to implement his suggestions for the article see Failed GA Tom Butler 18:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Wikidudeman and LuckyLouie have instigated an altercation
This is kind of funny. The editor who is posting the most Proposed Findings of Facts in this action is Wikidudeman. Yet he and LuckyLouie are the ones who clearly instigated one of the altercation that caused this mediation. As I noted above, he went to ScienceApologist's talk page and asked for help in the EVP article here . Below is the exchange.
- We've been going through an informal mediation concerning the EVP article. The discussions can be found here: Talk:Electronic voice phenomena. We're trying to work on each section at a time and reach a consensus on that. We're at a standstill because the mediator is busy this week however in theory we could do it without him. I think this way is better than simply editing it directly(Until consensus is met) because of potential edit wars. Wikidudeman (talk) 14:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, and welcome back. Since at least one editor has recently been editing the article directly I suppose that means there's no need to wait for consensus or be at a "standstill". It sure could use some attention. For example, regarding the article's introduction, "EVP" can only be stated to have been "observed" in various media if cited by authoritative sources such as IEEE Journals, Audio Engineering Society (AES) Journals, International Journal of Acoustics and Vibration, and current academic texts. Otherwise, the observations must be phrased as a claim. - LuckyLouie 00:25, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- note on martins page about that. Wikidudeman (talk) 00:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Notice that LuckyLouie offered him guidance as to how to edit, rather than making the edits himself. Did he want ScienceApologist to have an altercation with Martinphi?
The last entry is where Wikidudeman complained to Martinphi on his talk page here rather than the EVP discussion page when Martinphi reverted ScienceApologist's edits here saying, "Rv to consensus version. Don't edit till consensus happens," in his edit summary.
ScienceApologist had made the same sort of point of view edits in the EVP article that had caused much grief quite a while ago and he had reason to know it would still. There never has been a discussion of ScienceApologist's edits in the article. Instead, Wikidudeman took it directly to Martinphi, I guess knowing ScienceApologist would be along soon--especially since Wikidudeman posted on ScienceApologist's talk page that he had commented there. I think it is hypocritical to instigate an altercation and then pose as an offended editor to propose findings. Tom Butler 21:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Evidence presented by Martinphi
This edit sums up my attitude since the ArbCom on the paranormal. I have made a great effort since then to be a irreproachable editor.
Want to know my wikiself better?
Please look at my actual edits and contributions... but the diffs presented as evidence against me are very out of context. This has happened before- I seem to make lots of edits which sound much worse when taken out of context (:
Some misleading evidence
Wikidudeman doesn't tell you that I promised to vote for him in his next RfA if he stays NPOV for a year- so I have to collect evidence.
I never lied about or abused a sock puppet, as Wikidudeman's personal attack says (one meat puppet mistake).
Wikidudeman gives you this, but try reading a few more paragraphs of it . This is the kind of nasty prejudice I have to deal with all the time.
Recently Wikidudeman said:
- Martin has been editing here for a long time and it's possible to work things out with him if you try.
LuckyLouie says I "Exhorted Wikiproject Paranormal members not to modify their behavior or make any concessions." Well, yes, I didn't think that potential complaints that it was "graphical POV pushing" to have nice colors in our project templates was sufficient reason to stick with ugly colors. Why not read the paragraph above that response?
Re this, see this and definition of "denotes" espc #2. Some are my flawed attempts to communicate a nuanced approach. Some are way old -I was just getting to know the rules then .
LuckyLouie says I have a list of edit summaries referring to the ArbCom, but fails to note that I put those in just a few days ago, after recent disruptions.
LL says: "Maintains in his userspace a collection of arguments promoting Parapsychology as a science"- but you are not told that this was (I think), a draft which was at one time a (misguided?) addition to the Parapsychology article.
ScienceApologist
I said I wasn't assuming good faith in ScienceApologist. Wikidudeman doesn't tell you that ScienceApologist had just removed -I won't say vandalized- my parody template, saying that it was a personal attack, and that I'm not a member of Wikiproject RationalSkepticism, which I am. Instead of discussing it with me, he removed it, then edit warred with me over it- I thought it was vandalism. He's since continued to attack me, even after I apologized for calling him a vandal, and he's continued to say I have an offsite attack page. He also refused to apologize when Wikidudeman asked him to .
"Bullshit."
ScienceApologist's purpose on WP is to continue to contribute as best as I can to fight against cranks and pseudoscience. He says it's proper to charicterize subjects in WP as snake oil pseudoscience.
Parody template
My "template" is OK.
Antelan
I just don't know what to say, his evidence is so... strange.
Antelan assumes bad faith. For example, there is no ] . Many diffs are very out of context (Antelan gives this but not this). I did use a wrong edit summary , and I shouldn't have said this. I did not "insert" this, I reverted. Ray Hyman and James A. Alcock are 2 of the major critics . Etc. Etc.
Attack site
Here is the updated version of my "attack site," and here is the version SA was talking about. Tom Butler's page isn't an attack either, if read carefully.
User:Raul654
Maybe I was wrong to make such a fuss on the FA talk page. Let me try and explain why I was upset:
1. Raul edited the page from his own opinion about the subject, rather than from the sources. He put Parapsychology under "Religion, mysticism and mythology" .
2. He ignored the consensus of the ArbCom.
3. Most especially that he protected a page where he himself was in a dispute, which is clearly against policy. (link is to version of policy before my recent change- see LuckyLouie's attack/evidence).
I also believe that such behavior is worse in an Admin, and even worse in an Arbitrator, in whom the community places so much trust. That's my opinion. It's a moral stand I have to take. If you want to censure me for it, I'll take the punishment.
I probably took the issue too far. I didn't understand the special status of the FA page. I didn't know that Raul had been asked to oversee the page (and no one explained for a long time, even after I asked what was going on). I thought he was just another editor who disliked the paranormal.
If paranormal articles are going to be given unfair treatment on the FA page (against consensus), isn't it only right to argue against putting them there? When I said I'd have no choice but to do my utmost to keep paranormal articles away from the FA page, I meant I'd vote/argue against it, if they are going to be treated unfairly. To mis-interpret what I said as a threat to disrupt Misplaced Pages is a violation of AGF. I also have other reasons to be trepidacious.
When the situation was finally explained to me, I accepted the explanation and dropped the subject. That last edit also explains well where I was coming from, and why I acted as I did.
What shall I do?
I'm really the only person out there a lot of times who wants to uphold the previous ArbCom which the skeptical community has said you guys got so wrong. I keep getting edits like the following:
Svetovid: "transparently childish self-deception"
Fyslee: "quack "scientists" don't count"
I have edit warred to keep these edits out- though I've made a great effort to take other actions whenever I could, like removing disputed sections to talk pages, trying to get editors to discuss, etc. I can't take all those editors to mediation. I don't have time. Please tell me how to handle this- I really don't know )-:
Civility
I believe I've been civil- much more than those who accuse me. Sometimes I do say things bluntly. I don't think there's evidence of personal attacks except maybe calling ScienceApologist a vandal, for which I apologized.
Disruption
I have not disrupted WP, nor threatened to do so. Re my remark about "my utmost to keep articles on the paranormal or fringe science from achieving FA status," I had no idea how articles become FA. If I'd known, I would not have said such a thing.
Agenda on Misplaced Pages
I have been accused of having an agenda on Misplaced Pages. That is true. I wanted parapsychology and related articles represented fairly. I also knew from my studies that parapsychology was a scientific field, even if psychic/psi phenomena are not real. Personally, I do think that there are probably some paranormal phenomena which are real. I'm not sure which ones, and I believe they have not been proven scientifically. I never wanted to suppress skepticism (see all my efforts to have it extensively discussed in Misplaced Pages, now deleted). But I do feel that certain editors have a bias against paranormal topics. I believe they want to tell the reader what to believe, not just neutrally present the facts and sources.
Working with others
I enjoy and value harmonious collaboration, including with skeptics of the paranormal (see comment), if they are neutral editors- and sometimes even when they are not. See our work on the Parapsychology article which achieved FA status; our current work on Electronic voice phenomena (both led by skeptics). If the respite achieved by the Paranormal ArbCom had lasted longer, there would be more examples.
AGF
Please look at my history, also bearing in mind that "This guideline does not require that editors continue to assume good faith in the presence of evidence to the contrary. Actions inconsistent with good faith include repeated vandalism, confirmed malicious sockpuppetry, and lying." No emphasis added
Other material
I may have made a mistake........
Evidence preserved by Martinphi and originally presented by Tsyko, sock of banned Iantresman
Reading through ScienceApologist's evidence, and doing some research, I do not think that his diffs support his argument:
1. ScienceApologist's "Departing essay" describes "editors that are ignorant or outright cranks devoted idiots lunatic fringe editors". These are unambiguous personal attacks.
2. ScienceApologist lists several attacks, but most read as criticisms of behavior, and not attacks against the individual. For example, the first listed "attack" is polite and does not attack the person as claimed.
3. ScienceApologist says that his sockpuppet accounts "followed policy and procedures carefully all along the way", but looking through Philosophus's contributions, we find that:
- Philosophus describing another editor as "the idiot"
Several contributions to the same AfD as both user Philosophus (8 times) and ScienceApologist (15 times), which is forbidden by WP:SOCK.
Further research shows the following:
4. When ScienceApologist says that he "left Misplaced Pages for a time", he changed usernames. user:Morven has identified four more sockpuppets, User:Fradulent Ideas, User:Mainstream astronomy, User:Nondistinguished and User talk:Velikovsky.
5. As User:Mainstream astronomy, ScienceApologist claims to have been harassed and left Misplaced Pages (for the second time in as many weeks) on the 16th July, but had actually changed usernames again, this time to User:Nondistinguished... on the 16th July.
6. Another editor who thought ScienceApologist was using sockpuppets improperly, was reported by ScienceApologist as more harassment.
My findings show that it is ScienceApologist who makes personal attacks on other editors, and uses sockpuppets in a way that does not carefully follow policy and procedure. When other editors criticize, ScienceApologist claims harassment and hounding out of Misplaced Pages. --Tsyko 20:40, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
- ScienceApologist says he is not Philosophus, so I strike thru my comments on using the account as one of his sockpuppets.
- ScienceApologist has also responded to this criticism in his usual way. --Tsyko 15:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Evidence presented by MastCell
Martinphi views Misplaced Pages as a battleground
I don't think we need to go further than Martin's own words and statement for this. Highlights, though, include:
- Threads on Featured Article talk in which he accuses Raul654 of all sorts of things and states he's taken unilateral action "due to recent edit-warring... see ArbCom for details". To which an exasperated editor responded, "You're the one doing the edit-warring!"
- Using WikiProject Paranormal to canvass for support and get another dig in at Raul654.
- On Martin's userpage, he maintains a FAQ in which he states that he "gravitates to articles where debate is ongoing or imminent", that he is freed from the obligation of pursuing dispute resolution because it takes too long, that he knows of no alternative to edit-warring because he "gets very little help" in upholding his version of NPOV, that "what I need is help" in his ongoing battles, etc.
- Per his evidence presented above, he considers constructive users who sometimes share his POV, such as User:Nealparr, to simply ride on his coattails as he does the "dirty work" of edit-warring and battling for his POV.
- He is entirely willing to disrupt Misplaced Pages to make a point: here he threatens to "do my utmost to keep articles on the paranormal or fringe science from achieving FA status" because he disagrees with the categorization scheme.
Martinphi's approach is inimical to consensus-building
Martinphi has consistently appropriated the self-image of the lone, heroic defender of NPOV (see his evidence above, under "What shall I do?") He's repeatedly argued (as above) that the end justifies his means, including edit-warring and disruption, because he's the only one who understands and correctly applies NPOV. This worldview is entirely antithetical to WP:CONSENSUS. If you start from the position that you're right and that any means you employ are justified, then it's very hard to work within a consensus-driven system like Misplaced Pages. The end result of such an approach is evident in Martin's statement above - he wonders why no one else appreciates how right he is, why he gets so little "help" pushing his POV, and why people keep making a big stink about his edit-warring and disruptiveness.
Martinphi is admittedly disruptive, but "in a good way"
In Martin's evidence above (under "Civility/disruption"), he states that:
I have been disruptive. The thing I'd like the ArbCom to decide is whether "disruption" is in-and-of-itself bad. I don't see it that way, because it is a matter of what I've been disrupting... There's no question I've been disruptive- but I hope it's been in a very well-sourced and NPOV way.
I would also like ArbCom to decide whether disruption is in fact bad, or whether disruption is a good thing so long as it's done in a "well-sourced and NPOV way" and the disruptor is convinced he's right.
Addendum: For the record, despite protestations to the contrary, Martin does meet the definition of a disruptive editor: he's refused to make any concession to community input (see his earlier RfC or behavior since the last ArbCom), and his tactics have driven away constructive contributors (RIP User:Minderbinder). 22:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Things are not going to change
It's unrealistic to expect Martinphi to change his behavior when he doesn't think he's done anything wrong, that his disruptive behavior is "good" for Misplaced Pages, and that the prior ArbCom was a 100% vindication for him.
After the previous ArbCom, Martinphi wrote that: "Because my editing has been NPOV, my failures -such as edit warring which is the main thing I did wrong- are all in the category of 'he acknowledged them and won't do them again.'" But he has.
User:Tsyko is an obvious sockpuppet whose evidence should be struck
Tsyko (talk · contribs) is a brand-new account who appeared at this RfArb with a strong command of Misplaced Pages jargon. They also display a few other canonical signs of sockpuppetry, which are hardly secret but which I won't list here. This account is pretty clearly an obvious, disruptive sock of someone with a grudge. I would encourage this account to be checked against Iantresman (talk · contribs) and its evidence to be struck as coming from a sockpuppet. MastCell 17:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Addendum: As a checkuser has confirmed that Tsyko (talk · contribs) is a sock of the banned user Iantresman (talk · contribs), his evidence has been removed per WP:BAN. MastCell 17:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
... And "preserved" by Martinphi. MastCell 21:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Evidence presented by ScienceApologist
I left Misplaced Pages for a time because I was having a difficulty editing and was being hounded by numerous attack accounts
- My departure
- attacked
- attacked
- attacked
- attacked
- attacked
- attacked
- attacked
- attacked
- attacked
- attacked
This is a particularly sensitive subject for me, but there is definitely precedent:
- Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry#Keeping heated issues in one small area
- User:Philosophus (note: I am not this user)
I followed policy and procedures carefully all along the way, with some administrators (who will remain nameless) advising me. Obviously, User:Morven did not know.
Due to the sensitive nature of this activity though (I have had problems with being tracked down and harassed in real life!) I will ask the arbitrators to e-mail me privately regarding it, if they want details.
I will comment no further with regards to this matter except through private channels.
I returned when the situation at Misplaced Pages became easier for me to handle.
This is all I am going to say in public about the sockpuppetry. ScienceApologist 22:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Evidence presented by Nealparr
ScienceApologist remains uncivil after being warned
ScienceApologist has been formally warned in previous arbitrations to remain civil and treat other editors with respect (Arb:ScienceApologist and Arb:Pseudoscience). Since being warned, he has continued to be uncivil and should be placed on WP:PROBATION, the next step after being warned. He could be counseled or warned again, but it's sort of redundant.
- Tells an editor he is not old enough nor has enough expertise to dictate Misplaced Pages content after the editor sought outside input. (Dated June 2007, post-arbitrations)
- ScienceApologist's "Departing essay" describes "editors that are ignorant or outright cranks devoted idiots lunatic fringe editors". Although he didn't specify an editor by name, and this can be used to show how he feels about multiple editors, he was personally attacking User:The way, the truth, and the light after being blocked for WP:3RR on Thermal energy (as explained in his essay). The issue isn't whether ScienceApologist was trying to improve the article or whether his edits were justified, it's an example of how he loses civility when he becomes frustrated. (Dated June 2007, post-arbitrations)
- Morven confirmed that ScienceApologist has four additional sockpuppets . One of these, User:Velikovsky is a strange sort of incivility because when arguing with other editors at the plasma cosmology talk page, he used "Velikovskian" as a pejorative and said "Pandering to Velikovskians is not the job of this encyclopedia." ScienceApologist used this account to further combat with editors he was already engaged in as ScienceApologist, compounding the incivility. (Dated July 2007, post-arbitrations)
(Sorry, I'm a little busy, so this is just a placeholder with more to follow)
--Nealparr 16:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Evidence presented by Antelan
Martinphi applies different standards to edits across all namespaces depending on how they support his POV
Mainspace
- Based on his sympathetic editing philosophy, Martinphi maintains it is POV-pushing to inform readers of anything but pro-subject material within the first paragraph. Example:
- When hedge-words make the scientific point of view look less dependable, Martinphi will insert them readily. Example:
- ... but when hedge-words are applied to the nonscientific point of view, Martinphi invokes "ArbCom" (presumably, the Paranormal ArbCom) to excise them. Example:
- Martinphi applies loaded language based on POV. Example: While those who believe that parapsychology is a science retain the label "scientist", those who do not believe become labeled "other critics."
Talkspace
- Martinphi behaves uncivilly in talkspace. Example: Martinphi interrupts a real discussion on my talk page to gloat, "isn't it too bad ArbCom is so misguided?"
- Martinphi is dismissive of those who do not share his POV. Example: When one user makes the case for Psychic surgery to be tagged as Quackery, in opposition to Martinphi's POV, Martinphi sarcastically responds that he "can't get ] to work" instead of offering a substantive reason for why he disagrees with such a categorization.
Meta-space
- In this arbitration, Martinphi defends his sarcastic statement (highlighted above) regarding his Category:quackery comment by noting that there is no such category. However, Martinphi has tagged himself to a similarly nonexistent category, Category:Skeptical_Wikipedians, from which he could extrapolate that tagging people or articles with as-yet nonexistent categories does, in fact, "work".
- A then-newly-involved editor says that Psychokinesis is "horrific" and invites participation to fix the problems; in this arbitration, Martinphi claims that the talk-page statement is evidence of incivility towards him, either demonstrating ownership of the article or misunderstanding of civility.
- In this arbitration, Martinphi points to a diff which shows him inserting a word and says, I did not insert this , which is untrue.
- In this arbitration, Martinphi uses his evidence section to say "I just don't know what to say, evidence is so... strange."
Martinphi widely and frequently misuses edit summaries
- rv POV pushing is not a valid or civil edit summary
- On many occasions, his edit summaries invoke the ArbCom instead of summarizing.
- Martinphi peppers his edit summaries with sweeping claims and statements of his beliefs instead of summaries of his actions.
- Martinphi does not simply state that he is reverting vandalism, but he backhandedly compliments a repeat user by saying, "incorrect, but at least you weren't vandalizing like the last time"
Martinphi works with virtually all members of his "faction" in off-wiki paranormal projects
- Martinphi and Tom Butler are both Etheric Studies Committee Organizing Members (Confirmed on-wiki by Tom Butler )
- Martinphi, Nealparr, Atsakiris, and Annalisa Ventola all work on OpenSourceScience.net. (Confirmed on-wiki by Nealparr.)
(Independent links will be provided privately only to administrators in order to preserve privacy.)
Evidence presented by Feline1
From observing & interacting with User:ScienceApologist on numerous articles during 2007 (e.g. Immanuel Velikovsky and AfD debates for , , ) I have found him to be an uncivil editor, self-professedly promoting a single PoV, who sees editing as a "". This in itself causes edit warring and disruption to the project. However my contention that this editor has gone further than intemperate behavior, by engaging in vexacious wikilitigation against his "opponents" with a view to getting them banned from the project ("WP:GAME") and that this very ArbComm is the latest example of this.
One of his principle methods of "dirty tricks" has been his misuse of sockpuppet accounts:
and takes a six day break, before returning on 27 June and leaving a parting commment.
3 days later, and over the next few weeks, ScienceApologist creates and uses sockpuppets:
- 30 June, Fradulent Ideas.
- 10 July, Mainstream astronomy,
- 12 July, "76.214.223.142",
- 13 July, Velikovsky
- 16 July, Nondistinguished
- On 27 June 2007, when ScienceApologist said he was leaving, he continued to masquerading under five different sockpuppets.
- On 16 July 2007, when ScienceApologist was masquerading as sockpuppet Mainstream astronomy, and claimed to be leaving again due to being "outright harassed by a certain User:Iantresman",
he continued to masquerade as sockpuppets Fradulent Ideas, Nondistinguished, and under IP addresses 76.214.223.142 and 216.125.49.252.
As presented in evidence by MartinPhi | above , I found the editing style of sockpuppet User:Nondistinguished so distinctivly obstreperous and prone to wikilaywering that I asked him if he was ScienceApologist. ScienceApologist lied in reply, stating "This is the first time that I ever had contact with you since I started my account" | David Talbott AfD and in fact reported me to an admin for harrassment!
ScienceApologist continues to lie about his use of sockpuppets and his "having left" wikipedia in his evidence presented to this very ArbComm, and I respectfully submit that this casts doubt on the credibility of his assertion that neither is he a sockpuppet of User:Philosophus.
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