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Lradrama

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Lradrama (talk · contribs) - It is with great pleasure that I am able to nominate Lradrama to become an administrator. He has had one previous RfA which was not successful. The major concerns in that were his lack of edits to wikipedia space. I now feel confident that Lradrama has sufficient edits to project space and he is a very active contributor to AfD discussions. Whenever he comments there, he always gives thoughtful responses which show a clear understanding of the notability criteria. His edits here show that he would be good at closing these discussions. He's also a very compentant recent change patroller, and has a good number of edits to AIV and I believe these edits show that he would use the block button in the correct way. What I like about Lradrama are his contributions at the help desk showing his commitment to helping other users. He also does some good article work, especially to Formula 1 related articles. All in all, I really do trust this user with the tools, and I hope you can help me support him in his request for adminship. Ryan Postlethwaite 00:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:

It is with immense gratitude that I accept the nomination. Lradrama 13:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What admin work do you intend to take part in?

A: I would like to start off with working in the areas I currently specialise in, which are patrolling the recent changes and reverting vandalism, working on AIV and AfD. I would welcome the use of proper tools in these areas to speed up the way I operate and so I can accomplish more work. Then, I would like to branch out, and explore other areas of Misplaced Pages and try my hand in those areas. Another aim of mine throughout all of this is to continue to provide help and assistance to other users who are struggling or need to ask questions. I will remain active on the help desk and the Wikipedian's looking for help category. Lradrama 13:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

2. What are your best contributions to Misplaced Pages, and why?

A: I am particularly proud of my contributions to the Toyota F1 article. I have written a significant amount of its content, added a large amount of references and held discussions with many Wikipedians in Misplaced Pages:Wikiproject Formula One on how to keep up a cycle of continuous improvement. I have also greatly improved the Lancashire United article, getting it from a small stub into a bigger article, which is backed up with references. There's a lot of work that still needs to be done yet though. I have also written three of my own articles, which I hope to continually improve. I take pride in reverting the constant stream of vandalism on Misplaced Pages and also my assistance to newer users who ask for help, either on the help desk, via their own talkpage or on my talkpage. There's nothing like the feeling you get after making someone's day easier and happier, so I will always gladly offer my help to anyone on Misplaced Pages.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: Conflicts with other users are inevitable if you are an active Wikipedian. I have been involved in a number of conflicts, whether it be with persistant vandals or just other editors. I prefer to have civilised discussions with the Wikipedians in question, which, unfortunately don't always end up as one would wish with the former. It usually all turns out right in the end with other users who regularly edit Misplaced Pages, as a conflict often starts out as a heated outburst from a user, who, after discussion, calms down and everything is resolved.

So, with conflicts involving vandals, I am usually faced with an abusive comment on my talkpage. I try my best to cool the whole thing down through being nice and supportive, and offering rewards for their understanding and reform through things like Wiki-love smiles or barnstars. Most of the time this works. Sometimes it doesn't and a typical result is my userpage getting vandalised, and I usually go to the AIV way of sorting things out. But this is rare, because vandals are human like ourselves after all, not just some rageous animal hell-bent on destroying our work.

I have thus found that, in most cases of conflict, the chances of everything all turning out right in the end, and earning a new friend as a result, are made so much easier with patience and kindness, which I do my best to employ at all times. Lradrama 13:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

General comments

• See Lradrama's edit summary usage with mathbot's tool. For the edit count, see the talk page.

• Requests for adminship/Lradrama
• Requests for adminship/Lradrama 2

• Links for Lradrama: Lradrama (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/Lradrama before commenting.

Discussion

Support

1. Support as nom. Ryan Postlethwaite 14:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
2. Support. Helpful editor who's doing some good work. Nice contributions to Toyota F1 and Lancashire United. Majoreditor 14:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
3. Support dang it, didn't beat nom. No concerns whatsoever. Rudget _{Contributions} 14:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
4. Support I opposed last time to allow for a little more experience, believing you were well on the way at the time... and I like what I have seen since. Good luck! Hiberniantears 14:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
5. Support Nothing to indicate that the candidate is unsuitable. One little nit pick though: Lradrama states on all his userpages "This page is owned by Lradrama". I'm assuming that he doesn't really mean it. Just gives the wrong impression. But meh. - TwoOars (Rev) 14:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
6. Strong support. This is an easy one. He has made extensive contributions to en.WP, including but not limited to: lots of edits big and small, new articles, vandal-fighting (with over 20 "scars" to prove it), much constructive talk both on user's pages and at AfD (although he seems to be more of a deletionist than I am), and has made an effort to create fair but flexible standards for RfA. I've encountered Lardrama frequently in the past few months here at WP, and he has proven his trustworthiness. Bearian 15:14, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
7. Support Per nomination statement. Simple. Should have been sysoped on sight! Best. Pedro :  Chat  15:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
8. Support Come across you at the help desk. Always helpful and knowledgable. Good traits for an admin. Woodym555 15:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
9. Support. Good answers to questions and fine contributions. Unlikely to delete the main page. A Train 16:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
10. Support - helpful and friendly editor. Concur that he probably won't delete the main page. Addhoc 17:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
11. I see Ryan beat me to someone on my potential nom list. Support. Wizardman 17:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
12. Support - 'nuff said. Ronnotel 18:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
13. Support - Certainly, after all, we know that all Ryan Postlethwaite noms are always right. Good candidate. GDonato (talk) 20:08, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
14. Support - Trust nom and doubt user will abuse tools. Tiddly-Tom 20:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
15. Support I think that this user will make a fine admin. Captain panda 20:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
16. Support my recent interactions with him have been stellar. ⇒SWATJester 21:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
17. Support - Nothing wrong here. Great job.   jj137 (Talk) 22:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
18. As far as I am concerned, Lradrama's response to my oppose is more than satisfactory. With a good attitude and response like that, Lradrama will make a good administrator, and I am happy to support this nomination. Acalamari 23:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
19. Is ready. -- Anonymous Dissident 23:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

1. For starters, Lradrama recently strongly opposed a user who had been here for less than three months, but had submitted an RfA in good-faith, and a "strong oppose" seems bitey to me. In part of that oppose, Lradrama said "No-way! I suggest you withdraw, seriously.", which was entirely unhelpful. I am, however, glad that Lradrama removed the exclamation mark, but the rest of the oppose was still quite harsh. Secondly, during Earle Martin's RfA, he opposed the candidate for possibly "not needing the tools", and for a low edit count. He also had a complaint when other users had gone and responded to his oppose. Finally, this AfD edit is also highly worrying. Changed to support Acalamari 16:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

   I'm not sure what you're getting at with the Earle Martin AfD. He didn't go running to a noticeboard, he simply commented in the discussion section - there doesn't seem to be anything to be concerned about with that one. What's wrong with the AfD comment? A lot of people were sick and tired of the Harry Potter articles being nominater for deletion, in fact, it got a little silly - there doesn't seem to be anything incivil about the comment. Maybe one line of the newbie RfA was a little bitey, but at least it gave some advice to the candidate, unlike many comments at newbie RfA's. Sorry Acalamari, I don't really understand this oppose. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:01, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

   To be quite fair, Acalamari, you've mischaracterized Lradrama's oppose in the Earle Martin RfA. Reading the link that you called a "not needing the tools" oppose, it's clear that the major point is that Lradrama is concerned that Earle wasn't very active on Misplaced Pages. And although that Harry Potter keep rationale is admittedly weak, the result of the AfD was ultimately keep, so Lradrama's opinion was poorly phrased but ultimately well-founded. A Train 17:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

   Actually, to be really fair, I don't think Acalamari mischaracterized Lradrama's oppose. All three points of Lradrama's oppose at the Earle Martin RfA struck me as singularly silly, especially the bit "over 2,083 edits should really have been achieved by now". About the complaint saying I and user:Rspeer made an "uproar"; I guess I was a bit curt in my response and my edit summary, so I don't blame him entirely. I was just irked a bit by the oblique references. :) - TwoOars (Rev) 18:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

   Okay, maybe I was wrong with the Harry Potter debates: I was not aware of the multiple AfD'ing of them, and the affect on community patience at the time, so I've struck that part of my oppose out and I do apologize for that. My other concerns remain though: with the Goodshoped3511s RfA, it was the "strong oppose" (which I believe was unnecessary; new/ish users need advice, not the impression that they've done something wrong) combined with some of wording of the oppose (such as what I quoted above, plus the "a big no" said in the oppose), that came across to me as bitey, and overall, not very helpful (though the part about getting an admin coach was a good suggestion, I will agree). With the Earle Martin RfA, Twooars has said what I wanted to say with Lradrama's oppose there, and I have little more to add to that. Acalamari 19:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

   One bad comment with over 7000 other contributions doesn't strike me as a very good reason to oppose. He has shown on numerous occasions his ability to stay calm and help newbies. Ryan Postlethwaite 19:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

   As I have said before, with newbies, I am always pleased to offer help and advice, something I have done with vandals who have seemed intent on messing me around, so I would like to stress I had nothing against the candidate. It was just that the RfA wasn't going to pass, and the best option would be to withdraw. Maybe I worded it slightly harshly and I regret that, as I regret the moment with TwoOars, which, if I remember correctly, I accepted that my standards can vary from others, apologised for seeming harsh and the situation was resolved. I have spent a real lot of my time on Misplaced Pages dishing out help and offers for advice on many a new users talkpage, and seeming harsh on my part is wholly unintentional. Lradrama 19:48, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

   Yes, looking at that Strong Oppose, it does seem harsh. It looks awful actually. A big regret, sorry about that. Lradrama 19:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

   (undent)Geez, there but for the grace of God, etc. . . If that's all it takes to get bounced I suspect very few of us would measure up. ;) Ronnotel 19:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

Could be Jewish. We can't risk it. Dyslexicbudgie 23:59, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Neutral

1. Neutral for now. This user is a good user, but this strong oppose comment left by Lradrama doesn't seem nice to me. If I were User:Goodshoped35110s, then I would feel bad, especially with the comment No-way. I suggest you withdraw, seriously. and A big no. Go out there, which would really dishearten me. NHRHS2010 talk 19:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)