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Hey

I'm wondering as to why you made this edit. I reverted it as it was just a {{checkuser}} template. Were you trying to request one? Kwsn 22:39, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Taliban image reversion.

I am unsure whether you read the talk page before arbitrarily reverting the images placed. I have reverted back to the original of the page, ie: without the offending images. Please read the talk page, the matter is not to do with the relevance of the image, although the neccessity could be called into question. The matter is with the fact the images advocate a political group and advertise their URL on the images, furthermore links to gore footage for the sake of agenda pushing is included in their write-up's, this is not encylopedic. Please do not revert this change again. Jachin 13:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Afghan Politicians

I did the renaming based on a CFD Speedy, so you would need to place a comment on that page, stating oppose. If people agree with you, ill revert them back. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 00:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Taliban execution of Hazara man Herat May 1999.jpg)

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Licensing for Herati dance

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• source: http://dancesilkroad.org/New%20pages/Afghan_nw1.html
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Hamid_Qaderi.jpg

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Durrani Empire

It has been determined by a consensus of neutral editors and administrators that the articles under the various countries listed on the Template:History of Greater Iran should receive templates specific to those countries, and NOT the History of Greater Iran template. Please do not impugn the valid use of the template by insisting on placing it on these articles. The more specific template prevails. With regard to your assertion that "thats not the issue, the main issue is that today's afghanistan was then iran", it is true that, prior to Nader Shah's death, the Shah ruled over Kandahar, although the exact extent of his rule is not clear. Prior to Nader Shah, the Hotaki dynasty had controlled much of that area independent of Persian Safavid rule, starting with the city of Kandahar in 1709. And certainly, neither Adil Shah, nor his successors, controlled very much of what is now modern Afghanistan during the Durrani Empire. I hope this begins to explain why the Template:History of Afghanistan is more appropriate for this and subsequent history of Afghanistan articles. Please see also the article Origins of the name Afghan. You are free to discuss these issues on the various talk pages; however, wholesale insertion of the Template:History of Greater Iran without achieving consensus will be regarded as vandalism. You have been warned. --Bejnar 21:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

On a separate note, your edit of 01:27, 9 August 2007, to Durrani Empire restored grammatical errors that had been corrected. Please use undo only to remove vandalism or simple error. Otherwise, please edit carefully. If you disagree with a position, don't revert the edits, take the time to state your position on the article's talk page. --Bejnar 21:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I can provide a better justification for using the History of Greater Iran template. However, I'll go by the concesus. Where is this concensus? --Behnam 21:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

For example, see User talk:Anoshirawan#Please Stop.. See also individual article talk pages and edit summaries. If you "can provide a better justification for using the History of Greater Iran template", please do so on the . --Bejnar 21:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Just wondering

Are you from Toronto? Who is this?

Request for Comment: Hotaki dynasty origin and ethnicity

The RFC on the origin and ethnicity of the founder of the Hotaki dynasty are being conducted on the Hotaki dynasty talk page, as that is where a lot of the discussion of this issue has appeared. --Bejnar 16:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Muhammad Zahir Shah

I am contesting the ethnocentrism of Muhammad Zahir Shah. The single reference is in a newspaper editorial in the Ottawa Citizen by David Warren. You asked for an example for his non-ethnocentrism, here is one of many such. --Bejnar 18:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

"The late King was always fondly referred to by all Afghans, cutting across ethnic boundaries, as "Baba-e-Millat" or 'Father of the Nation', a position given to him in the country's Constitution passed in January 2004, about two years after the collapse of Taliban rule." "Last King of Afghanistan dies at 92"

• Note that David Warren is not a "respected journalist" he is the former editor of the Idler Magazine and writes opinion pieces for the Ottawa Citizen. --Bejnar 18:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Moving categories

Please follow the procedure at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion to rename/move categories. It is against policy to empty and move categories without discussion. Thanks. --musicpvm 06:01, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

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Taliban piped link to 2007 South Korean hostage crisis in Afghanistan

Thank you for your concern for vandalism in the Taliban article. On 21 August 2007 you changed the piping on a reference link from 2007 South Korean hostage crisis in Afghanistan to 2007 Taliban-seized South Korean hostage crisis. However, the title of that article was changed on 14 August 2007, in accordance with the discussion at its talk page. Please double check piping links to avoid redirects. That edit of 00:47, 21 August 2007 by Manxruler with edit summary "m (→2007 - redirect fix)" was not vandalism. --Bejnar 15:30, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

ban for User:Tajik

Hello. I complained to several admins about the ban they placed on User:Tajik. He is being accused of being user:Tajik-Professor. I know for a fact that that is not him. User:Tajik has been on Misplaced Pages for 3 years and is the best contributer I have seen, just look at his awards and his record. User:Tajik-Professor also lives in Germany and that is why his IP is in the same range, but the admins looked more carefully they would see their IPs are not the same. Also, User:Tajik-Professor if you check my talk page you can see he asked me for help. Obviously User:Tajik who is a veteran editor wouldn't be asking me for help and other easy things like how to open an article! You can see that here. So please take a look at this and review this again because its very obvious once you see this and we need User:Tajik on Misplaced Pages, he is the best editor that I know of, so please do look into this. It is whats best for the Encyclopedia and I am very concerned about the articles without him. Thank you. --Behnam 21:56, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it really matters whether Tajik is indeed Tajik-Professor; it is quite clear, especially considered the history of Safavid dynasty, that Tajik is editing from anonymous IPs and/or using sockpuppets to evade his block. -- tariqabjotu 01:46, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

But if you check his talk page/block log, it shows that the reason he was banned was because he was prematurely accused of being user:Tajik-Professor. Please check his block history here. It says, "Tajik, the determination was made based on a CheckUser result, which showed that it was highly likely that both User:Tajik-Professor and other anons are you based on IP evidence. Dmcdevit·t 01:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)". If the reason provided by the admin for his ban is false than that ban is illegitimate don't you think? --Behnam 03:32, 26 June 2007 (UTC)UTC)

Hello? I think you missed my last reply. Please take a look at it, this is an important issue. Thanks. -- Behnam 19:52, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

If the reason provided by the admin for his ban is false... But, I don't believe the reason provided by the admin for his ban was false. How would you know the checkuser data is faulty? How can you look at the IPs of Tajik and Tajik-Professor? -- tariqabjotu 21:45, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello again, sorry for the long delay. I know both of these users personally. Tajik (talk · contribs) is a medical doctor in Germany and Tajik-Professor (talk · contribs) is a student in Germany. If that is not confivincing enough, on my talk page and other user's talk page Tajik-Professor (talk · contribs) on many occasions has asked for help on very simple tasks that a veteran user like Tajik (talk · contribs) would know already, he came on long before and I was asking him for help so obviously it wasn't him asking me now how to cite sources and other simple tasks. The admin who accused him of this simply looked at the IP range or the first two digits not the entire IP and because both users had the word Tajik in their user names, the admin quickly assumed they were the same user without even investigating. Please again check their IP address and you will see they are not the same IP. Tajik (talk · contribs) is the probably one of the most valuable editors in Misplaced Pages and there is no replacement for him, 3 articles are featured thanks to him and he has several awards and has written some solid articles. He is too valuable to loose just because an admin didn't do his job thoroughly. Can you please check their IP addresses again? Please, this is for the good of the community. --18:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I do not have checkuser capabilities and cannot check the IP addresses of the two users. I have a feeling this has been investigated already and that no one with checkuser capabilities will address it again. Personally, I don't believe your explanation. I can't understand why a student would give himself the name "Tajik-Professor". I don't see how you could know these two people. On your userpage you have said you are from Canada or Afghanistan and never mentioned being from Germany (or having knowledge of German). Additionally, the coincidence that the two suspect users, even according to your explanation, come from the same country is hard to ignore. (By the way, I have filed a RfCU at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tajik.) -- tariqabjotu 02:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Infobox Afghan City

I noticed you already created a Template:Infobox City in Afghanistan. Did you just want to use that one? "Cities in Afghanistan" seems an odd name since it plural, all the other city templates have the word "City". --MarsRover 04:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Please use edit summaries

Hello. Please be courteous to other editors and use edit summaries when updating articles. The Mathbot tool shows your usage of edit summaries to be extremely low:

Edit summary usage for Beh-nam: 5% for major edits and 8% for minor edits. Based on the last 150 major and 150 minor edits in the article namespace.

Using edit summaries helps other editors quickly understand your edits, which is especially useful when you make changes to articles that are on others' watchlists. Thanks and happy editing! --Kralizec! (talk) 04:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Block

Beh-nam (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I made the 4th RV because user:DWC LR made his 3rd revert without any explanation. Making reverts without an explanation is as good as vandalism. I provided my explanation and it was sound and made perfect sense while he provided no reasoning. I understand it is still edit warring, but it is him edit warring not really me. If I get blocked for the 4th revert then he should also be blocked for initiating baseless edit warring or atleast he should have gotten a warning. Please review the history page here and you can see that he was reverting without any reasons while I was providing unquestionable reasoning. He is a self proclaimed monarchis and was reverting based on his POV, not on any reasoning and with no edit summary. It is not fair to give me a block and nothing to him. --Behnam 20:36, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Your excuse for violating WP:3RR appears to be that someone else was reverting your changes. This is the very thing that 3RR is set up to stop. The block is valid and I find no reason to lift it. — Yamla 20:41, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

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Beh-nam (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Also another reason why I accidentally violated this rule is because on my 3rd revert I was not logged in so I did not see that I was making my 4th revert. Can you consider this please? -- Behnam 20:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Decline reason:

No. It is forbidden to make more than three reverts whether or not you know that you are doing it. It's your job to keep track of your reverts. — Sandstein 20:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

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Canvassing votes / support

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Template:History of Afghanistan

Come on, you know, as well as I do, that even if the Hotaki dynasty falls into history of Iran (or Greater Iran), that it is also a very real part of the history of the area that we now call Afghanistan. But, if you have a problem with listing it in the Template:History of Afghanistan, please state why you consider it a problem to list it in the template in the template's discussion page. Thanks. --Bejnar 17:20, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:reflist

Please subst the template reflist in order to reduce the work of the Misplaced Pages servers. --Bejnar 16:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Copied from another talk page (please copy this to other users/admins)

Re: Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tajik

Having receieved additional data from a private source regarding this case, I checked the accounts again. They are all unrelated to each other, and using the new data, it also seems they're all unrelated to Tajik. --Deskana (apples) 16:39, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thatcher had banned User:Tajik with no reason. Now, he is accusing me of being Tajik, while I am not. User:Tajik lives in Hamburg. He has even used various IPs from the University of Hamburg; the same IP was also used by the Misplaced Pages admin known as User:Future Perfect at Sunrise who is also German and works at the University of Hamburg. In fact, he and Tajik know each other in person (ask him if you do not believe me). I am writing to you from Kassel in Hessia (if you check my IP, you'll see that I am right) - I know Tajik from various forums (I am also from Afghanistan, just like him). Thatcher's claim that Tajik is the same person as User:Tajik-Professor is more than rediculous. Thatcher simply needed a reason to ban Tajik in order to support his favourite Wikipedian: User:Atabek. And because Thatcher did not have ANY proofs, he simply took the similar name to accuse Tajik. Everyone who had followed Tajik's edits knows that User:Tajik-Professor was a sockpuppet of User:NisarKand. His edits are totally contradictory to those of Tajik, and various socks of NisarKand had already vandalized Tajik's page. Tajik has requested twice an unblock in order to explain his situation, but Thatcher has refused to give him a chance. Instead, he is continuing to further expand his pointless accusations. Interestingly, last week, User:DerDoc was also banned as a suspected sockpuppet of Tajik. The funny part is that DerDoc is a medical doctor from Vienna in Austria, using 193.xxx IPs. Any checkuser file would prove this simple fact. But like in the case of Tajik, DerDoc, too, was banned without any checkuser file. Not even NisarKand (this time in the shape of User:Rabeenaz) claims that DerDoc is Tajik, although he has (with the active support of Atabek, as one can see in his contributions' history) tagged various accounts without any permission, claiming that all of them are socks of Tajik - just like Atabek. Prior to DerDoc's case, another user, namely User:German-Orientalist, a German Iranologist from Dortmund, was also banned because of the same reason. The only proof against him was a weak checkuser result, saying that a link to Tajik would be possible. Interestingly, Thatcher - the one who has banned Tajik because of false accusations and whose wrongs have been exposed - was enganged in almost all of the cases mentioned above. I've talked to User:E104421 who was part of the ArbCom which endorsed Tajik's ban, and he was shcked as well, because it was very clear from the beginning on that he and the ArbCom were used by certain admins to get Tajik banned. In order to muzzle Tajik, admin Thatcher131 used a wrong accusation against him and got him banned. In the following process, Tajik was prevented (by Thatcher) from defending himself in the ArbCom, and was banned indef. The same Thatcher131 did not mind to ban known vandals of the Azerbaijan-Armenia ArbCom for only 1 year, even though many of them used sockpuppets. However, in case of Tajik, only one wrong accusation of Thatcher was enough to get him banned forever. This is very very very very very suspicious and does very much look like a conspiracy against User:Tajik. And everything points to admin Thatcher:

• Thatcher131 initiated an ArbCom along with a few others
• Thatcher131 made up wrong accusations against Tajik (i.e. that Tajik is Tajik-Professor, a claim that has been proven wrong twice since then!)
• With this accusation, Thatcher got Tajik banned and prevented him from defending himself in the ArbCom
• Thatcher's accusations also forced the judges to endorse Tajik's ban (the same ban that was initiated by Thatcher)
• 7 checkuser files were requested against Tajik, and 90% either proved that the accusations were wrong, or did not have clear results (... possible ..., ... likely ...', ...unlikely ...), the other 10% were rejected anyway
• Thatcher refuses to request a checkuser file in case of DerDoc, German-Orientalist, and Tajik-Professor. The reason is very simple: since these 3 people are NOT the same person, they CANNOT be Tajik's socks at the same time. That means that Thatcher's accusations are wrong, and that he abused his admin rights to get a user banned whom he did not like (or maybe what he had to say).

Thatcher's edits seem to be coordinated with those of Atabek. And Atabek's edits are certainly coordinated with those of User:Rabeenaz. Anyway, this case needs to be investigated. Other admins need to take a look at this, and many other Wikipedians need to urge neutral admins to have a look at Tajik's case, and Thatcher's admin rights. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.58.177.136 (talk) 01:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Edward321

This guy Edward321 keeps changing my edits and keep reverting the articles that I fix. Can you do something about this? --Anoshirawan 07:01, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Tajik

Please take a look at this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.145.243 (talk) 18:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism Warning

Please do not delete content from pages on Misplaced Pages, as you did to South Asia. Your edits do not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use Misplaced Pages:Sandbox for test edits. Thank you. Thegreyanomaly 03:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

You have vandalized this article. Southern Asia and South Asia are the same things just as East Asia and Eastern Asia are the same. You removed cited information support the thoughts that Afghanistan and Iran are South Asian states. These are neutral POV sources from prominent universities, and not random websites. Please do not vandalize this page again Thegreyanomaly 03:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This appears to be a content dispute rather than vandalism. Please save the vandalism warnings for real acts of vandalism.----Tea© 04:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Other Vandalism Warning

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Template:Asian Capitals. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you.

This one is for your removal of neutral pov references Thegreyanomaly 03:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

3RR warning

You reverted Template:Asian_capitals two times already, do it a third and I will report you for a 3RR 24-hour ban. If you have your "more scholarly sources", then show them. I have some of the US' most prominent universities on my side, and I have the UN on my side. Thegreyanomaly 16:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Anoshirawan

Neither you nor he own the articles in question, anyone can post to them. Some of his edits make no sense, such as when he said the Afghanis 'Joined the British Empire into submission'. And some of his edits are clearly unsourced POV, such as his claims about on radio station owner being 'notorious', or claiming another station was pro- one ethnic group, and anti- another. Those are serious claims that could be considered libel. They may be true, but Anoshirawan posted no sources and continued to post no sources no matter how many times I asked for them, ignoring me completely. Unless he or you can post reliable sources for these accusations, Misplaced Pages policy requires that such claims be deleted. If you want me and the several other people who have reverted him to stop, then please start following policy - start posting sources for your claims. Thank you. Edward321 22:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

3rr warning

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:Asian_capitals&diff=prev&oldid=156286390 http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:Asian_capitals&diff=prev&oldid=156305857 These are two reversion in a short period of time commit a third and I will report you for 3rr warning. Three universities and the US gov show more authority over one encyclopedia that describes Afghanistan as the join point of ME, SA, and CA Thegreyanomaly 17:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead and get more sources if you can find anything legitimately more scholarly than three universities and the US gov. If you repeat your same reverts I will report you to an admin though Thegreyanomaly 17:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Personal attacks

Please refrain from making personal attacks on users, as you did to Atabek and Tariqabjotu. Accusations of lying help nobody. Present your evidence to the appropriate place and it will be taken into account. Thanks. --Tango 12:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

This is crazy!

You are now trying to get me banned too? You and your Pan-Turkist friends KNOW that they are not the same person but you used that opportunity to ban him and now you are up to your dirty tricks again! No one is falling for this! I can see what you and your friends are trying to do! Also, German-Orientlist and Tajik-Professor were confirmed to be different people, so then how can Tajik be both? This is place a damn joke~ -- Behnam 02:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry Beh-nam, but you have officially depleted my last bit of interest I had for investigating this Tajik issue when you called me and some group of people I don't even know "Pan-Turkist". Please don't bother me about this matter anymore and if you continue (as appears to be disturbingly common in regard to Mideast articles) to call people pan-, perhaps you will be banned. -- tariqabjotu 17:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Investigating?! You didn't do anything, don't lie. You just accused me of being him, that is the only investigation you did. I know what you're all up to. -- Behnam 19:30, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I stand corrected; this query and this request for checkuser were made by a different Tariqabjotu. -- tariqabjotu 19:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Stating India had little cultural influence over Afghanistan is Absurd

You say that Iran was the primary culture provider, but you neglect many facts. Afghanistan was conquered by Indian empires many times and ME/NEern empires often united both states many times. In 630 AD Kabul. The source for that is in this book

Hazra, Kanai L. Rise and Decline of Buddhism in India. 1998th ed. New Delhi: Munishiram Manharlal, 1995.

Thegreyanomaly 06:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

And also If I am wrong, why do so many sources still support me that Afghanistan is South Asian? Thegreyanomaly 06:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

And also if there was only little influence, why would it be in the indosphere?Thegreyanomaly 06:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Also take a look at the following pages; Indo-Greek Kingdom, Greco-Buddhism, Indo-Parthian Kingdom, Pala_Empire#Peace_and_Expansion, Indo-Scythians, Maurya Empire, Kushan Empire. Both States were under the same rulers for long periods of time, and Buddhism (which is clearly non-Persian) was the majority religion of Afghanistan during these periods. There was plenty of Indian influence Thegreyanomaly 06:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair use disputed for Image:Destruction of Buddhas March 21 2001.jpg

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Gandhara instead of Afghanistan

Gandhara has been inserted in lieu of Afghanistan in the Indosphere template as a reasonable alternative. Scythian1 01:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I discussed matters with Thegreyanomly who appears to be very open-minded and understanding about the change to Gandhara. I understand that you and I contend that Afghanistan may not necessarily be viewed as "South Asian." Nevertheless, I believe that to accurately represent the template without any tinge of bias, Gandhara is a reasonable replacement. Scythian1 02:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Picture=

Hi I wonder you could tell me how you did create and rezied this type of photo to been placed over the ethnic group template as you did here? thanks :) Nick10000 14:40, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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Which IP address

Which IP address were you talking about and when did I use it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anoshirawan (talk • contribs) 23:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Category:Afghan politicians

Hi Behnam

On 7th September, you proposed renaming Category:Afghan politicians, at CfD September 17#Category:Afghan_politicians. That CfD was closed today with a consensus to keep the name as is, but you made a new (and almost identical) nomination at CfD September 23#Category:Afghan_politicians. As you will see, I have just speedily closed that nomination.

Once a CfD is closed, please accept the result, and do not just nominate it again; repeated nominations are considered disruptive. If you still feel that the category is wrongly named, you may nominate it again in a few months time, explaining what you think has changed since the last debate on the category. Thanks! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I prefer to keep discussions in one place, so I have replied on my talk page to the messages you left there. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:35, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

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Nice job

i like the work you do here. --Rudaki 22:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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Karzai sucks!

Do you like Hamid karzai?! Hi sucks! I went to Kabul this year and he has not rebulid Kabul at all! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elias33 (talk • contribs) 11:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Hotaki dynasty

For the multiple sources that Mirwais was a Pashtun of the Ghilzai see the talk page for this article. In particular, see Malleson, George Bruce (1879) "Chapter 7: The Ghilzai Rule" History of Afghanistan, from the Earliest Period to the Outbreak of the War of 1878 W.H. Allen & Co., London, OCLC 4219393, limited view at Google Books, but also see the other sources there cited. Malleson even lists his grandfather. --Bejnar 19:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the Persian Cromwell, it is a book of fiction written in London and has no indicia of reliability. --Bejnar 20:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Kabul

Just because you say so does not make it primarily Central Asian. The scholars are completely divided, and hence it should stay as it is. The current structure to Asian Capitals, remains neutral and does not show favor to either argument Thegreyanomaly 04:28, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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re: your accusation

Oh so you're not anti-Pashtun, and you're half-Pashtun yourself? In that case why have you spammed different articles with links to the racist website http://afghanprofile.net/ whose objective is to demonstrate how "barbaric and primitive" the Pashtun are? And why did you make these edits , saying that Pashtuns sell their own daughters etc..? Your plea of good faith is totally unconvincing, and it's obvious to everyone how prejudiced you are.

I know why you've been making those silly criticisms against Zahir Shah, and not against Amanullah. It's because Zahir is still a popular figure almong the Pashtuns, whereas nobody cares about Amanullah, so you know that you'll hurt the Pashtuns more this way. And you should learn a bit of history: Fascism is a specific ideology, created by Mussolini in the 1920's, it's not just an insult you can throw at people you don't like. Raoulduke47 17:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

No that does'nt make him a fascist, even if what you say is true(and you've furnished no evidence of that). An authoritarian regime can be represssive, wihtout having the trappings of fascism. You would know this if you were'nt so busy making judgments.

And yes, i know that he was not universally popular, even among Pashtuns, and that some valid criticisms of him have been made. For example, it has been said that he was a hedonist, whose lack of commitment in politics allowed the communists to gain influence in the country. That is probably true.

Also, during the war with the Soviets, he was content to stay in the relative luxury of his villa in Italy, while his people were getting massacred. That is undoubtedly true, and caused much resentment.

But i've never heard that he was a fascist, quite on the contrary. Did he not organise elections in 1965? Did he not guarantee the rights of women by law? Not exactly your typical fascist... Afghanistan may not have been a model democracy during this period, but that did not make it a fascist country.

As for this "enslavement of the Hazara" thing, I know for a fact that it isn't true. During his reign, he tried to integrate the old Hazara elite into the state machine, and several Hazara deputies were elected in 1965(see Olivier Roy, Islam and resistance in Afghanistan, page 140). The Hazara are fond of saying that everyone persecutes them, but that is not always justified.

I see that you're not too confident about this fascism thing yourself, or you would have written something about it on the article itself, rather than making snide insinuations on the talk page. If you want a definitive answer on his supposed fascism, and as you seem so keen to insert the wikiproject fascism banner, then maybe you could ask the fascism experts what they think. --Raoulduke47 12:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad you appreciate my knowledge, unless you were being ironic... It's difficult to know what happened during this period, as it does not seem to have interested many historians.

Anyway, all I'm saying is that Zahir Shah would be better termed a Conservative Authoritarian, rather than a fascist. Obviously, I'm not a great admirer of Zahir, and I won't defend his memory to my dying day. But still I think it would be incorrect to call him a fascist. There is a good reason for this: politically, fascism is a totalitarian system. This means that the state controls each and every aspect of its citizens lives. In Afghanistan, this is simply impossible, as no central government has ever had that much power. In particular, in rural and remote areas there has never been much government control. IMO, the only governement that tried to implement a totalitarian system was the communist one in 1978, and that provoked a massive insurrection.

Btw, the members of wikiproject fascism have set a certain number of criteria for including articles in their project. You could try and check if Zahir Shah fits those criteria. I don't think he does. Regards. Raoulduke47 21:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

hon203

he has violated the 3RR rule.

Please check this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration --Anoshirawan 21:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Template:History of Afghanistan

What is your real problem? Every time I answer your claims about why the Hotaki shouldn't be part of the History of Afghanistan template, you choose a new reason. What is the underlying problem? --Bejnar 15:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

• You reverted my edit saying: "that sectin says "PASHTUN RULE", rule of what? the template is implying rule of the territory of today's Afghanistan which is false. stop making things up and stop with the Afghan nationalism". I cannot believe that you really think that my edits are based on any sense of Afghan nationalism. As you know, I am not an Afghan or a Pashtun. I seek to have a useful Misplaced Pages. I am a librarian, that is important to me. Just because any given Shah didn't control all of modern Iran doesn't make them any less a Shah and any less a part of the history of Iran. Similarly, the Hotaki are part of the history of the land south of Bactria. You know that. What is this implication that boundaries in the past are exactly the same as modern boundaries? It doesn't exist. Please use your obvious intelligence. --Bejnar 16:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Anoshirawan

On 29 September 2007 you said: "I wouldn't be surprised if this User:Rudaki was actually User:Bejnar who tries to get User:Anoshirawan banned due to his differences on certain articles. I advice any Admins to be careful with this case as this trick has been done before to others." What have I said that tried to get Anoshirawan banned? Yes, I believe that Anoshirawan does not always edit in accord with Misplaced Pages policy, but all I have ever called for is consensus and request for comment. I do ask for logical argument and that people actually read sources, articles,and talk pages, but how does that relate? What is going on here? --Bejnar 22:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hotaki

You wrote on an edit summary for Template:History of Afghanistan, "yes it is consistent if you actually read the article, Hotakis did not rule this area". My question to you is, What area did the Hotaki rule? Where did they have their capital? --Bejnar 22:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Tajiks

I have cleaned up the article and partially restored older versions because someone had vandalized the page unnoticed. Please keep an eye on it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.151.191 (talk) 23:44, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Drood wa Salam

mara meshanzi??? ;-)

i decided to support you guys but you have also to support me! not just im not professional related to english language but also to edit some articles that is taken from Puta Khazana lol

Khoda Hafez Jan

Ps: Eid o Roza o Namaz piroos bashad. Salam berasa bare to wa famil

--Aspandyar Agha 10:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Afghans as Asian-Americans

Afghans in Pakistan are considered Pakistani by the US Gov, so those Afghans are defined as South Asian. Dark Tea's source claims they are South Asian, so they belong under South Asian. Thegreyanomaly 05:23, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Re-Writing of some articles

Drood wa Salam Jan,

Be-Nam aziz, i think we have to re-write some articles. I think we can make the tajik article better, also the Pashtun article and some other. I don´t know how we can get into contact. If you are today online than plz come on a private room. Add me just either under Aspandyar Agha or Parsistani. Hope we can talk first about the issues and what we have to change and what we have to re-write..

Khoda Hafez

Ps:have a look on Rahoul

--Aspandyar Agha 14:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

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Please don't egg these clowns on: . I'd prefer if you just disengage when the conversation turns from the colourful to the offensive -- Samir 03:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Indefinite block

I would advise you that I have blocked this account on the basis of the incivility shown on talkpages, and possible insulting language (I do not know what each word means, but I can follow the context). I am open to having this blocked lifted or reduced should there be a reasonable explanation forthcoming, or a promise to moderate language. I would comment to other admins that there is no need to request my agreement to any change in tariff. LessHeard vanU 16:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed|1=he is not NisarKand because Beh-Nam is a Tajik and NisarKand an Awghan, an ethnic Pashtune. Dear Admins, plz check that out also his IPs. They are two different User. While NisarKand and DilbarJan are one and the same User and a nationalistic one but Beh-Nam has nothing to do with such activities. DilbarJan(/NisarKand) claimed he would helping Taliban but since Beh-Nam is a Persian and the Taliban were looking for cleansing Tajiks who could he be NisarKand self since Dilbar is allready NisarKand!? Plz dear Admins, unblock him. Beh-Nam is for a long time on Misplaced Pages and he didn´t do sth bad either against any nations nor against any User or any articles. The admins of Misplaced Pages now banned two or three of Tajiks who were one o the important ones here at least they were the sole Tajiks who were active. Plz Admins, ban DilbarJan who is writing articles from his nationalistic view. With best regards|decline=No grounds for unblock provided. — jpgordon 17:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)}}

(moving unblock request down here from top of page) - Please note that the reason for the block was not Beh-nam being NisarKand (he most certainly isn't, I can vouch for that), but his outburst of apparent ethnic insults against a suspected NisarKand sock. Behnam, you're welcome to contact me by mail if you want advice. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:07, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear LessHeard,

if you analyze the comments of DilbarJan, you will see he was the first who insulted me and Beh-Nam. Behnam did nothing. He just wrote me that he is a sucket of Nisarkand who is vandalizing Misplaced Pages. NisarKand, Dilbar, also claimed that I myself am a socket of Beh-Nam. if you ban Beh-Nam than you have also to ban DilbarJan since he is the cause for that. bye --Aspandyar Agha 19:22, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I understand that DilbarJan has been blocked. I am waiting for Beh-nam to make a case for unblocking, as are other interested parties. I would comment that I acted upon a report at WP:AIV, and not the current situation regarding the contested article(s). LessHeard vanU 20:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I took a look at some the recent controversial exchanges. I didn't look at them closely enough to see who was the biggest contributor, or who initiated the exchanges. Confusing since the signing and indentation conventions weren't followed.

I certainly wouldn't endorse either initiating violations of WP:NPA, or responding in kind to violations of WP:NPA.

I want to make two observations. First, here is my first exchange with Beh-man. He has been completely civil to me. Second, I think he has been at the receiving end of WP:BITE and systemic bias. More experienced wikipedians who want newbies to comply with WP:CIV and the associated policies, have to set an example. And it seems to me that Beh-man was let down here.

In my first message to him I assumed that the common notion us native English speakers have that anyone from Afghanistan is an Afghan was correct. He was completely civil in his explanation . And I found his explanation convicing. But, in some CfDs I was disappointed in my fellow native Enlgish speakers apparent inability or unwillingness to consider the possibility that someone from another country might have something meaningful to tell us about how they should be named. IIRC then my fellow English speakers were unfairly sarcastic and disrespectful.

For these reasons I'd like administrators to reconsider keeping his block permanent.

Cheers! Geo Swan 22:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed|1=Have you not read how all these dozens of sockpuppets of user: NisarKand have been insulting me the past year? How long was I supposed to put up this? I have never used sockpuppets and I have never insulted anyone here, unlike user: NisarKand. I am a human and I have feelings, when someone insults me repeatedly with the most disgusting forms racism I eventually loose control and have to respond to get him to stop. I did not initiate this heated exchange. It's always him that starts it, I usually ignore but I am getting sick of all his sockpuppets! Just look at the exchange in more detail and you'll see that I did not start it. Also months ago he has insulted me in other very disgusting ways. I still have record of it and I will post it here if you want. He was actually banned for that. And I want to ask why when DOZENS of his sockpuppets are throwing insults around nothing is done about it but when I eventually loose control and respond to him then it gets the attention of the Admins... ? Please consider these factors. -- Behnam 01:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)|decline=The reasons you provide do not excuse edits such as this one. — Sandstein 08:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)}}

{{unblock reviewed|1=Again, that is a response to AFTER he insulted me! And how do you suggest that I get home to STOP making so many sockpuppets!? You Admins were NOT doing anything about him! -- Behnam 18:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)|decline=You have provided no reason why you should be unblocked. Please refrain from further abuse of the unblock template. — Yamla 18:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)}}

Behnam, I for one have argued on ANI that your outbursts may have been understandable after what you've been through, and that an indef block may be overly harsh, but still, you are not helping matters by your defiant attitude. If you can see nothing wrong with the way you behaved, we have a problem. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you dear Fut.Perf.. You are very familiar with the user: NisarKand situation and you know I've put up with him for over a year without a single response to his racism. Thanks for understanding that I'm human and I have my limits. I certainly do see that it was very wrong the way I behaved and this is my first and will be me only time behaving this way. I should not have lowered myself to his level. -- Behnam 20:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Block reduced

I'm taking the liberty of dropping your block to one week (from this date) per the discussion at ANI and your comments here. I also see the nastiness of the entire situation from NisarKand and his socks. We trust that you'll maintain civility no matter how much you are provoked. I'll let User:LessHeard vanU know -- Samir 23:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Samir, I'll endorse this. Fut.Perf. ☼ 23:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks alot Samir for your understanding and thank you very much Fut.Perf. for your help. Won't happen again, I'll be more careful with him and all his future sockpuppets. -- Behnam 03:18, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I concur with Samir's actions, and reasoning. LessHeard vanU 12:36, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

it will be business as usual for this user i'm afraid. expect to see more disputes over his controversial edits. i believe more users have been put off by his behavior than their are in support of it. proceed at your own peril. --Ghaffar73 (brand new sockpuppet of user:NisarKand, user:Dilbar Jan, etc) 02:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

This is another sockpuppet of user: NisarKand. He's trying to rub it in that he played this game and got me banned. If you look at the contributions this account was opened today and the edits are the same pattern. Please ignore him. Please also ban this latest sockpuppet and revert all his edits. Thanks. -- Behnam 03:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back. If someone bugs you, and you want to compare notes, don't hesitate to let someone else know. Cheers! Geo Swan 00:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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External links

Greetings Behnam, people have complained of external links to a site called afghanprofile.net, some of which were apparently introduced by you. That site does seem to be extremely partisan, probably qualifying as an ethnic hate site, and it's almost certainly not suitable under our external links policy. Can you please refrain from inserting these links (and preferably remove the ones that are already there; check Web search). We'd otherwise probably have to blacklist the site. thanks, Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

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