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:This particular list of edits doesn't look like a violation to me, except in the most legalistic reading. I left Piotrus a note reminding him about 3RR; that should be sufficient. ]]<sup>]</sup> 17:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC) :This particular list of edits doesn't look like a violation to me, except in the most legalistic reading. I left Piotrus a note reminding him about 3RR; that should be sufficient. ]]<sup>]</sup> 17:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::3 times referenced info was removed, 5th revert is removal of the reference that was added upon request. So nothing legalistic but pure edit warring case and a breach of 3RR IMO. ] 17:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC) ::3 times referenced info was removed, 5th revert is removal of the reference that was added upon request. So nothing legalistic but pure edit warring case and a breach of 3RR IMO. ] 17:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

:The 1st revert is not a revert - it is a normal edit; MORDOOR claims it was a revert to which is obviously not true. I have simply removed a dubious claim that as discussion at related talk pages show is not supported by reliable source, a claim that has not been ever challenged since it was added a few weeks ago to the article (which, accidentally, I expanded to the GA-level).
:Reverts 3rd and 4th are one revert - I could have just as well made one edit instead of two and removed both the dubious claim and the tag in a single edit; I did two to provide a better ] in my edits. To claim that hence I broke the 3RR is obviously wikilawyering.
:I would also point out that MORDOOR has not contributed to this article in the past; his revert warring there at present - which seems to be his only contribution in the past day or so - borders on ]ing my person. Further, MOORDOR revert warring is a violation of ] and ] - he is removing a proper attribution to Zhylenko, instead replacing it with some non-English and less reliable website. Such disruptive behavior certainly should warrant a warning.
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    User:JayKeaton reported by User:asams10 (Result: warning)

    Walther PPK (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). JayKeaton (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 23:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to:


    Editor does not like the word "Trademark" and changed it back multiple times. Asams10 23:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

    JayKeaton is in violation of 3RR; however, assuming good faith and judging from comments here, he has not received ample warning or does not understand the policy. I have left a notice on his talk page and will monitor the article and the user. Please also note that you are nearly in violation yourself, Asams10, and if you do exceed three reverts, you will be blocked as well. Also note: the last three diffs you've provided are the same; however, I presume you meant to provide this diff and this diff. AmiDaniel (talk) 08:27, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:156.34.238.220 reported by User:Kameejl (Result: No violation)

    Hypocrisy (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 156.34.238.220 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 11:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    The user uses diffenrent IPs to edit and engage in infobox edit wars breaking the 3RR rule on several articles. Thuis user needs a cool down period.

    Please see:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Wintersun&action=history
    http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Biohazard_%28band%29&action=history Kameejl 11:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Without further evidence that the IPs are the same person, there is no actionable violation. If you can adduce such evidence, please do so. If doing so please also explain whom we should block, as the likelihood is that the user, if it is the same person, would just switch to a further IP and continue. An alternative if the IP continues is to request semi-protection. Stifle (talk) 11:15, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
      I'm practically sure its the same user because:
    • Edits are done from related IPs (probably a school or company network)
    • Edit comments are practically the same
    • Same edits are being reverted over and over.
    I would feel very sorry if this IP trick would work to game the system but i'll try to find some evidence and related IPs. Please take a look at the research part:

    research:

    Hypocrisy (band) article:

    1. (cur) (last) 00:10, 26 October 2007 156.34.238.220 (Talk) (4,795 bytes) (repair formatting + cleanup re: WP:FLAGCRUFT) (undo)
    2. (cur) (last) 20:23, 23 October 2007 156.34.237.194 (Talk) (4,795 bytes) (repair formatting as per Template:Infobox musical artist) (undo)
    3. (cur) (last) 19:35, 23 October 2007 156.34.237.194 (Talk) (4,795 bytes) (repair formatting) (undo)
    4. (cur) (last) 10:02, 23 October 2007 156.34.216.202 (Talk) (4,795 bytes) (repair formatting + cleanup re: WP:FLAGCRUFT) (undo)
    5. (cur) (last) 00:46, 23 October 2007 156.34.236.193 (Talk) (4,795 bytes) (repair formatting) (undo)


    Wintersun article:

    1. (cur) (last) 20:23, 23 October 2007 156.34.237.194 (Talk) (3,670 bytes) (repair formatting as per Template:Infobox musical artist) (undo)
    2. (cur) (last) 19:35, 23 October 2007 156.34.237.194 (Talk) (3,670 bytes) (repair proper formatting) (undo)
    3. (cur) (last) 10:02, 23 October 2007 156.34.216.202 (Talk) (3,670 bytes) (repair formatting) (undo)
    4. (cur) (last) 00:44, 23 October 2007 156.34.236.193 (Talk) (3,670 bytes) (repair formatting) (undo)

    Biohazard (band) article:

    1. (cur) (last) 05:37, 26 October 2007 156.34.214.123 (Talk) (17,633 bytes) (repair formatting) (undo)
    2. (cur) (last) 05:20, 26 October 2007 156.34.214.123 (Talk) (17,633 bytes) (repair formatting) (undo)
    3. (cur) (last) 04:53, 26 October 2007 156.34.214.123 (Talk) (17,633 bytes) (fmt.) (undo)
    4. (cur) (last) 01:05, 26 October 2007 156.34.238.220 (Talk) (17,633 bytes) (repair formatting) (undo)
    5. (cur) (last) 00:10, 26 October 2007 156.34.238.220 (Talk) (17,633 bytes) (repair formatting) (undo)


    IP whois (http://ws.arin.net/whois/) tells us the IP range 156.34.0.0 - 156.34.255.255 is all from:
    OrgName: Bell Aliant
    OrgID: ALIANT
    Address: 1 Brunswick Square
    Address: BS-6
    City: Saint John

    The IPs used are:
    156.34.238.220 contribs
    156.34.237.194 contribs
    156.34.236.193 contribs
    156.34.216.202 contribs
    156.34.214.123 contribs

    It would be a strange coincidence if all these IPs were used by different people regarding the kind of edits (edit warring to enforce some lay out), similar hard rock-oriented contributions, edit comments, and related IPs (on 3 articles and 2 dates). I think this is enough evidence to assume this is just 1 user. I'm looking forward to see what's the next step. Kameejl 15:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    I believe these IPs are all one person trying to game the system. Given that the other side in the revert war - User:Scipo has also reverted a ridiculous number of times, I'm not going to block either. But I consider both Scipo and the dynamic IP to be on final warnings - any more of this petty edit warring and its enforced Wikibreaks all round... WjBscribe 17:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
    Comment This is quite obvious as I reported a similar IP just a minute ago for the exact same thing. In my opinion editing from unregistered users at those IP adresses should be blocked, maybe then the user would get an account and play by the rules.--E tac 23:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Dbachmann reported by User:Taharqa (Result: no violation)

    Race of Ancient Egyptians (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Dbachmann (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 14:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to:




    User is being very controlling in making drastic and controversial edits that lack consensus, including rearranging the entire format of the article. His first revert consists of him revising and re-formatting sections, for instance moving entire sections around like "Egyptian self-view, "Mummy reconstructions", and a couple of others. He was reverted, yet proceeded to edit war by violating 3rr and making the same revision 4 times and knows that we've been trying to limit edit wars, not to mention that he is an abusive senior member, abusing his seniority. All of these reverts are the same and he knows better not to engage in such disruptive behavior as well as violating 3rr..Taharqa 14:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    Uh, that is not a 3RR. They do not show that the person "set" a version and reverted back to that version every time. Even going by a loose definition, information was added during different stages. At most, there were two reverts based on the last two diffs provided. Wait a second, you copied and pasted the previous 3RR notice and left last two as diffs there. This should really be on the talk page and not here. Spryde 14:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    What do you mean it should be on the talk page and not here? I am reporting a violation of the 3 revert rule within the par 24 hours and merely got the diffs wrong because I was using the preceding report before me as a model to copy and paste into, but somehow forgot a few and the times/links got messed up. I've edited it now and it reports properly, so check again. Though this would have been clear by just double checking yourself as well, which is why you were initially confused and I see how. My fault but it is a clear violation that I merely reported wrong at first by messing up the urls..Taharqa 15:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    Now the diffs clearly show 3RR. Thanks! Spryde 16:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Eleemosynary reported by User:Sbowers3 (Result:24 hours)

    Scott Thomas Beauchamp controversy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Eleemosynary (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 15:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    The specific reversions are deleting three lines:
    ]
    ]
    ]

    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    He is not a newer warning and is fully aware of 3RR but was warned anyway:

    User justifies his reversions as removing POV, which only demonstrates his POV. He says he is reverting vandalism but he has been warned that his reversions do not qualify for the vandalism exception. Sbowers3 15:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    While I agree that the category tags are probably in appropriate, this seems like a pretty clear cut case violation by editor who has multiple blocks for WP:3RR and should know better by this point. Ronnotel 15:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:69.211.7.63 reported by User:Precious Roy (Result:semi-protected )

    Bijou Phillips (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 69.211.7.63 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 15:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    Edit warring, after 4th revert and 3RR warning, anon waited long enough to avoid a further violation of 3RR in letter, if not in spirit. I have repeatedly tried to engage the anon in a dialog on the article's talk page (via edit summaries (x6) and comments left on IP's talk page (here and here). Anon continues to revert without comment. Precious Roy 15:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Nishidani reported by User:Zeq (Result: 24 hours)

    Mohammad Amin al-Husayni (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Nishidani (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 15:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to:


    5th revert (a full revert): 15:12, 26 October 2007

    the other revertes are partial as they involve intemidiate edit by other users as well as many edits by User:Nishidani himself. This clouds the picture somewhat but since the 3RR policy speaks about "revert in whole or it part " - these are clearly reverts:

    4th – restored material removed by this edit:

    3rd: – restored material removed by this edit

    2nd: - Restored a sentence (from Uri Avnery) that was removed by this edit:

    1st: 11:13, 26 October 2007 - removed title (section header) that was added by this edit:

    Note: User has been warned before few times (on her talk page) to avoid such 3RR violations.

    reported by Zeq 15:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


    Well, I didn't think it occasioned a violation of the 3RR to try and stop a concerted attempt by two apparently coordinated editors, (one of whom formally and inexplicably denounced me for antisemitism elsewhere today because of his failure to understand nuanced English) to remove information doubly sourced to RS historians of world stature like Walter Laqueur and Benny Morris. I was labouring under the impression that I was countering vandalism to a specific passage that is grounded historically. The page in question is one I had over the last day substantially rewritten to conform to criteria of clarity of exposition, synthesis, and grammar, without a murmur of objection from one editor,Zeq, who appears to have a proprietorial attitude to that page, and use it to indict a people. But, rules are rules and thus, if the evidence above fits the case, and infringes on the proprieties, obviously I should wear the penalty. The integrity of that passage must be maintained, since it is not my opinion, but that of first-rate historians. And, I would have appreciated it had either of the two editors troubled themselves to notify me. Whatever the administrator decides is fine by me. I will add that I have, at the very outset of my wiki editing, violated the rule once, from ignorance. And that, on a successive occasion, when I believed I had violated the rule, I reported myself immediately. Regards Nishidani 17:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    Hi,
    I want to underline that what happens on the article about Haj amin al-Husseini sounds more like Nishidani protecting this "hot article" (the Mufti is highly controversed man in israeli historiography) and caring this does not become pov-ed rather than a real 3RR problem.
    A tag requiring people NOT to modify the article before consensus and discussion the talk page has been put on it long time ago but unfortunately some people do not respect this recommandation.
    It has been asked for 3 weeks to these editors to discuss before any change. Nishidani has just been trapped but his intentions are -I think- the right ones and he is known to be respectful of wikipedia principles.
    (sorry if my English is not good).
    Alithien 18:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
    The issue here is not the motives but the behaviour. User:Nishidani reverted 6 times in less than 24 hours. In fact he did so many edits, that it is possible that he revrted more and this is masked by some of his edits. Almost any change to the article that is not by him he is reverting.
    As for the comment above about "the tag": Clearly User:Nishidani is making tens of edits to this article without reaching consensus. This is a tough article and it actually make sense to edit and see if the edit is accepted, but to revert endlessly - that is not accepted. Zeq 19:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    Blocked 24 hours. The 3RR violation is not in dispute. Please remember, Nishidani, that disagreements about content (even when you are think you are right because you use good sources) do not justify edit warring. Try using the methods listed at WP:DR next time. Sandstein 22:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Steven Andrew Miller reported by User:Thumperward (Result:Page protected)

    Scott Thomas Beauchamp controversy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Steven Andrew Miller (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 19:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    Note: I've already requested full protection on the article (again) to calm this down. And this is the fifth 3RR report on this article on the current listings.

    Contentious smears being reinserted for roughly the fiftieth time in as many months. Chris Cunningham 19:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    Both parties violated WP:3RR. However, as the page is already protected I won't impose any blocks, this time. For the umpteenth time, please sort this out on the talk. Ronnotel 19:59, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Thumperward reported by User:Steven Andrew Miller (Result:Page protected)

    Scott Thomas Beauchamp controversy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Thumperward (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 19:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC)



    User continues to remove factual statements. Official Army investigation has shown matter to be fraud. User keeps reverting. — Steven Andrew Miller (talk) 19:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC) Added: Thumperward seems to think his opinion is what makes some thing a "smear" Everything is documented and cited, but editor continues to ignore this. — Steven Andrew Miller (talk) 19:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    Note that the article was already locked at SAM's version, thanks to me having defused the edit war, when this report was made. This is an attempt to use 3RR as punishment. Chris Cunningham 19:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
    Article was protected before you asked for it. It is not punishment, but rather fact. You are the editor who attempted to revert the article to the previous state. If you look through the edit history you can see clearly that I am not the only editor reverting the removal of these items. — Steven Andrew Miller (talk) 19:44, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
    see above. Ronnotel 20:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:appletrees reported by User:Sennen_goroshi (Result: Closed)

    Dano (Korean festival) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). appletrees (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 16:01, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

    note

    I have cut and paste this report from an old verison as the original was removed by another user by accident

    1st revert http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Dano_%28Korean_festival%29&oldid=166717371

    2nd revert http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Dano_%28Korean_festival%29&oldid=166741997

    3rd revert http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Dano_%28Korean_festival%29&oldid=166753760

    4th revert http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Dano_%28Korean_festival%29&oldid=166763414

    5th revert http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Dano_%28Korean_festival%29&oldid=166766736

    6th revert http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Dano_%28Korean_festival%29&oldid=166767577

    7th revert http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Dano_%28Korean_festival%29&oldid=166771123

    8th revert http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Dano_%28Korean_festival%29&oldid=166774153

    the above are either reverts or edits designed to perform the same/similar function as a revert

    if the format of this complaint is not correct, please inform me of my error and i will try to submit it again. (my first 3rr report)


    • Previous version reverted to:
    It looks like the reverting is over (The last reverts were on the 24th). Hit bull, win steak is mediating now. Your report looks to contain the correct info. Spryde 16:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
    Yes the reverting is over, but this shows a blatant disregard of the 3RR and condones further abuse. this should be nipped in the bud, before it becomes a habit. as per the users comments on the 3rr board in the past, they are well aware of 3rrSennen goroshi 23:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


    It is free for any editors in Wiki to report a 3RR incident for pacification, however this report is obviously caused by Sennen goroshi's deep-rooted grudge against me. Before pleading against this accusation, I want to state why he did this.

    When Melonbarmonster conflicted with Sennen goroshi and reported his 3RR violation caused by his POV motivation, I backed up Melonbarmonster due to Sennen goroshi's endless disruptive edits on Korean-related articles, such as Korean cuisine, Korean eating "cute puppy flesh", Kim Ki-duk, Covering up the assassination of Empress Myeongseong, Calling Korean nationalist as murderer. Aside from these examples, I and many Koreans have been horribly insulted by Sennen goroshi's personal and racial slurs like , , , or even his DEATH CURSE, calling comfort women as Chon prostitute, and comparing his opponent with RAPIST'S CRIME, so he seemed to need a time to reflect on his conducts. At last, he got banned for 48 hours as the consequence of his behaviors. Even the administrator was strongly offended by his comment on rape which caused him to be block for more than 24 hours. . But far from reflecting his own faults, he blamed me for the result and made a mock of me again.

    Besides, both I and Sennen goroshi are participating in the Dokdo article which is listed as a lamest edit wars between Korea and Japan. Now Sennen goroshi has to deal with more than 3 people regarding the alphabetical order of the nations , , , so he wants to divert my attention from the article and work off his grudge. He even stalks me as follows my contribution history. Special:Contributions/Sennen_goroshi, .

    If the term 'recent incident' includes the past 1 or 2 month, I want to add his other violations on 3RR here. In the below cases, none reported his breaking the 3RR rule at that times, and he rather already forgot what he has done in Wiki. If my question is valid, I will report his violations in a formal way.

    User:Sennen goroshi reported by User:Appletrees

    Sennen goroshi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Comfort women

    These evidences show Sennen goroshi's blatant disregard of the 3RR and condones further abuse. Administrators could consider to block him again because of his habit of violating the 3RR rule and personal attacks.



    Back to the Dano (Korean festival) case, I and James collins123 are still discussing the matter under the arbitration of Hit bull, win steak. If Sennen goroshi really has a good faith for pacification or does justice to this case, he might've mediated in the edit wars or reported both of us. Violating the 3RR rule is not solely done myself. Both James collins123 and I were violating the rule. However, all things taken together, we can clearly see Sennen goroshi's ulterior motive: revenge.

    The 1st, 2nd and 3rd reverts of which Sennen goroshi has accused can not count in this case because James collins123 (217.155.116.101, prior to registering in wiki) added a claim with providing no citation, so that I removed it which is considered reasonable reverting. . The summary comment of mine "don't delete without any explanation" was an inadvertent mistake because at the same time, 217.155.116.101 removed the cited sentence on the Ssireum article without any explanation .

    After he brought up a reference on the Dano, I elaborated on the citation cling to the contents. Therefore, the edit wars was firstly begun by James collins123 15:06, 24 October 2007

    In addition, the above 6th revert is not correct, because I didn't revert James collins123 's edit but did subtracted the duplicated word from my own prior edit. . However, Sennen goroshi intentionally included it in the count to look as if more reverts happened. If I strictly follow Sennen goroshi's own rule, James collins123 reverted 12 times! (see below)


    James collins123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    James collins123 and I both are guilty of violating the rule, so later this accusation from the third person with grudge is not equally applied. I've been contributing to Wiki by updating, linking, uploading images and creating new articles but edit warring or disputing are not my primary concern unlike Sennen goroshi. He has consistently deferring and making others upset for his own sake. I've never seen him contributing something unless warring with anybody on hot-heated articless.

    Anyway, with the sincere aid of Hit bull, win steak, both are discussing peacefully and willing to cooperate each other. But I want to ask something. If the report turns out a false accusation or covering up one side, how things go to the reporter? --Appletrees 04:12, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    • The purpose of 3RR blocks is to prevent further sterile edit warring. As Hb,ws is mediating and the edit war seems to have stopped, I will not take any further action, but if it restarts, then Bad Things ™ will happen. Please let me or WP:RFPP know if protection is required. Stifle (talk) 11:21, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:69.150.64.88 reported by User:dicklyon (Result: 24 h)

    El Paso, Texas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 69.150.64.88 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 05:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    Anon IP user keeps adding "JR,s Bratwurst" in list of attractions; I'm unable to verify even the existence of any such place, wrongly punctuated or otherwise, but even if it exists it's spam. Dicklyon 05:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    Blocked 24 h. Sandstein 09:17, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:appletrees reported by User:Sennen_goroshi (Result: Blocked, 20 hours)

    Bungeoppang (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). appletrees (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 14:29, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    I apologise for making another report regarding this user within such a short time-span, but this seems to be totally against wikipedia's spirit, waiting until the 24hours was up by a whole 7 minutes and then making the 4th revert. (not only making the 4th revert, but in the edit summary, warning me about 3RR)

    The first edit was not strictly speaking a revert, however it was the removal of the term "Imperial" so it still falls within the scope of the 3RR - the next 3 edits were reverts, possibly not using the undo function, but still reverts.

    The fact that the 3RR was mentioned in his edit summary and that the 4th edit was made 7 minutes outside of the 24hr time -span, shows an intent to game the system. In addition to this, the user had just been the subject of a 3RR report, and did not receive a ban, due to an editor trying to mediate, rather than push for a ban.

    • Previous version reverted to:
    •  Done – the obvious gaming of the system, as you've mentioned in your report, demonstrates an inherently negative attitude. Blocked, for 20 hours. Anthøny 15:03, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Bmg916 reported by User:SpeedyC1 (Result: No violation)

    Kristal Marshall (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Bmg916 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Time reported: 16:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC).

    This user has vandalizing the Kristal Marshall page frequently. This user has putting up information that they can not back up at all. This user is stubborn and will not listen. here are the edits that the user has made to the Kristal Marshall page.

    User:Gscshoyru reported by User:AstroVetro (Result: No Violation)

    User talk:Mr.Z-man (edit | ] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Gscshoyru (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Time reported: 19:03, 27 October 2007 (UTC) This user has moved four requests for help on an another users page within a 24 hour period (actually within a 20 minute period). The majority of the users edits are reverts (he abuses WP:TW and was once blocked for being considered a vandalism only account). User was warned but persisted and continues to revert many articles over Misplaced Pages in general.

    • Mr Z-man is an admin and quite capable of dealing with disruption on their own user page. The reverted edits appear to be from a sockpuppet of a blocked user editing in contravention of their block. That's allowed under the 3RR and no violation has therefore taken place. Spartaz 19:22, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:70.232.93.130 reported by User:HelloAnnyong (Result: page protected )

    Steam (content delivery) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 70.232.93.130 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 21:34, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    User has been removing disputed tags and adding unsourced content, all while being openly hostile in the talk section. I just started paying attention on this page (I saw it listed on 3O) but the two users are in a heavy debate. — HelloAnnyong 21:34, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    Page protected. KrakatoaKatie 10:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:207.69.137.7 reported by User:MalikCarr (Result: page protected)

    MSN-02 Zeong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 207.69.137.7 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 22:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


    Etc...

    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    Anonymous IP address has emerged and begun systematic revert campaign of questionable merit. 3RR warning issued and ignored. MalikCarr 22:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    Addendum: As the current edit war is spreading, may I recommend reverting to the last accepted version (as indicated here) and protecting the page once again? It worked well last time - no edit war for almost a month. MalikCarr 22:56, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
    Note: User:207.69.137.42 appears to be the same as the above noted IP address judging on activities on the article in question. Jtrainor 14:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
    Page protected by Anonymous Dissident. KrakatoaKatie 12:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Good friend100 reported by User:Komdori (Result: 5 day block, sent to ANI)

    • 1RR parole violation on

    Goguryeo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Good friend100 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 23:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Diff of 3RR warning: Currently unblocked from his indef block, on 1RR parole per agreement to conditions so he could participate in an open arbitration case (which is now closed). Fresh off a weeklong block for violating the 1RR before. I don't know exactly what he and the anon are revert warring about, but it's troubling that after so many warnings he continues to keep hitting "undo" with no discussion.
    • That's precisely;y why its so important to leave a comment when you have dealt with a report. When I checked the user's talk you hadn't left a note there either. Have you now done this? I didn't see 2 reverts. Have I made a mistake or are they different? If a block is appropriate please make it an indef one. Spartaz 09:43, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Yes, I've already apologised for not leaving a comment - we all do it once in a while, thanks very much. Incidentally, I had left a comment: see here; the reason I did not make the block indefinite is that the 1RR is no longer in place (although it was at the time of the offence), in that the RfArb has been closed. Anthøny 10:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
    I should have given more detail perhaps. I think there are two different reverts here (on the same article), but that it still broke the 1RR (per the line on the 3RR page that says, "An editor must not perform more than three reverts, in whole or in part, on a single page within a 24-hour period. A revert means undoing the actions of another editor, whether involving the same or different material each time." It might be "different material," but he was reverting another user's edit, and didn't even try to find a middle ground, not even leaving a comment as to why it was evidently unacceptable to him. As for the arbitration, that ended days ago. It was my impression that the 1RR would last beyond the end of that--since it was a courtesy to edit during the arbitration, I suppose someone could just reinstate the block when it was done, but that seems a bit harsh if the editor was editing according to norms. Unfortunately, as this is the second incident (the previous one where he was blocked last week was much worse), this doesn't seem to be the case. --Cheers, Komdori 13:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
    I think the question boils down to, should we allow the user to re-edit, or should be fully re-instate the indef. block, which was only lifted for a now-complete RfArb? Personally, I think the latter is in order - I don't see any constructive contributions to date, and even if the single reverts were permitted, they don't exactly convey a perfect attitude, do they? However, I think we should bring Spartaz back in on this one... Anthøny 13:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
    I think we need wider consensus on this. The 1RR was still extant in my mind and had I considered that Good friend had breached it, I would have indef myself. However, there seems to have been some doubt about whether the 1RR still applied and all in all, I think that we should run this past ANI. I also agree that this user seems incapable of learning to comply with our editing standards. Spartaz 16:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Dicklyon reported by User:Geoeg (Result: 24 hours for Dicklyon and 48 hours for Geoeg )

    Least-squares spectral analysis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Dicklyon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 19:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    This user engages in edit wars, sets block traps while misusing WP regulations, is ignorant in the article subject matter (my article has been featured on WP main page) and has a history of edit wars with many editors. He keeps pushing his POV on "sinusoids" being the keyword for the article I wrote, but he can not back it up with scientific references on the article method. On the other hand, I stated two references on the method that use more general "trigonometric functions" instead of sinusoids, but he keeps replacing them with references related to a completely different method (Fourier analysis). Note his 3RR violations also happened with other parts of the article but I am just filing one report. Please see my Talk for the complete list of all of his violations (bolded items at the bottom, separate section). Geoeg 19:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

    • 24 Hours. Spartaz 20:44, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
    • 48 hours for Geoeg. 24 for his part in the edit war and another 24 for the personal attack and abuse directed at Dicklyon on his (geoeg's) user page. Both of you are prolific contributors. Please make this your last blocks by seeking mediation or an rfc t sort out your differences. Spartaz 20:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
    • These names are coming up with increasing frequency - either or both of you are liable to get a significant block if you come up here again. Stifle (talk) 22:27, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Davkal reported by User:Baegis (Result: page protected)

    List of pseudosciences and pseudoscientific concepts (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Davkal (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 21:42, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    • Diff of 3RR warning:

    There has been an ongoing discussion on this page between a group of users. 3 editors were contending that a book that has long since been used for this particular list. Davkal kept re-adding irrelevant commentary about one topic after it was established on the talk page that the commentary wasn't relevant in regards to the list. After his 2nd revert, he was warned by OrangeMarlin that he was approaching the 3RR limit. He deleted the warning and then accused me of being a sockpuppet of ScienceApologist on OrangeMarlin's user page . He then began to insert a disputed tag onto the article, which I reverted twice. With regards to the 5th edit, a user who had only once visited the page came in and undid my revision, possibly to try to save Davkal from an obvious 3RR. Davkal has an extensive history of 3RR and has also been quite uncivil during the entire talk page discussion. Baegis 21:42, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

    Page protected for two weeks – the diffs aren't technically a 3RR violation, but it's clear the article is a free-for-all right now. KrakatoaKatie 11:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


    User:DreamStar05 reported by User:Nikki311 (Result: 31 hours )

    WWE Diva Search (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). DreamStar05 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 00:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    This user originally created an article at both Brooke Gilbertsen and Brooke Gilbertson, both of which I tagged for speedy deletion as they did not establish notability and have already been deleted several times for that reason. WP:PW has already decided that being in the Search alone is not enough to establish notability. After removing the tag from one, despite being the original author, I left a message on their talk page explaining about the hang on tag. In response, they added all the information about Gilbertson to WWE Diva Search, even though the article is about the Search itself, and not about the contestants (none of the other contestants have short bios). I left the warning about 3RR after the third revert, and they reverted twice after that. Nikki311 00:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    DreamStar05 blocked for 31 hours. KrakatoaKatie 12:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:DemolitionMan reported by User:Josquius (Result:1 week)

    Indian Rebellion of 1857 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). DemolitionMan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 14:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)



    DemolitionMan is determined to push a Hindu nationalist POV on this article against all attempts to establish NPOV- which he insists is a British POV. The aim of his constant reverts is the infobox where he insisted on calling the Indian rebels freedom fighters and calling the war the Indian war of independance. After exact rules detailing freedom fighter being unacceptable language were shown to him he decided he was compromising by saying patriot instead despite the meaning being very similar and even more inaccurate to the subject matter.
    Dispute resolution has been tried- but when the mediator leaned my way he decided to ignore it.
    This isn't the first time he's broke the 3RR recently, just the first I've reported it, earlier incidents can be spotted easily over the past week. Additionally he was kicked for using a sock to break the rule earlier in the month and is consistanly rude to those who disagree with him. Josquius 14:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    User has history of persistent POV pushing including use of sock puppets. Ronnotel 14:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:M5891 reported by User:DCGeist (Result: No action)

    United States (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). M5891 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 16:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to:

    User has edit warred on this topic on several occasions in the past. User never provides edit summaries and has not participated in Talk section recently initiated to address matter (Talk:United States#Demographics section).DCGeist 16:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    I see no evidence that the user was previously warned for 3RR, or that they have continued to revert after the warning was given. I'll certainly block if I see continued reversion. --John 17:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Bmg916 reported by User:SpeedyC1 (Result:page protected )

    World Wrestling Entertainment roster (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Bmg916 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Time reported: 17:53, 29 October 2007 (UTC)).


    This user has vandalizing the World Wrestling Entertainment roster page frequently.5 times in 3 hours. Above are the edits that the user has made to the World Wrestling Entertainment roster page.SpeedyC1 18:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    Please note that Speedy has also violated the 3 revert rule,and refuses to compromise and is repeatedly inserting wrong information. All the Wrestling Websites out there (as well as her official website have confirmed Kristal Marshall's release and Speedy is refusing to acknowledge this. While I admit to violating the 3RR and regret doing so, I would like the reviewing admin to please take note of these facts. I also don't appreciate Speedy calling my good faith edits vandalism. Thank you. Bmg916 18:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    Please not also tha kristal does't have an official websit. It is just some fan claiming that he knows her.SpeedyC1 18:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    Read the legal disclaimer, it's her official site... Bmg916 18:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


    User:156.34.221.137 reported by User:E tac (Result:24 hours and see E tac below)

    User is stepping out of bounds, claiming something is a concensus, which it clearly is not as I have cjecked the template talk page and tried directing the user to it and he is not responding. E tac 23:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    Comment Edits are to maintain the formatting as it is clearly shown in the Mariah Carey example which appears on the Template:Infobox musical artist page. A clea edit summary pointing to this has been given with each edit. E tac (talk · contribs), however has not provided any valid reason for reversion... other than to simply revert for his own pleasure. Mr. E Tac has violated 3RR on numerous article in the past hour. 156.34.221.137 23:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
    No I never went over 3 reverts, so you are wrong there. Also I pointed you to the talk page on the template, there is very little disscusion on the topic and NONE OF IT supports what you are claiming to be the concensus. I am not doing it for my editing pleasue but because it makes the infobox much neater and easier to read. Perhaps it is you doing it for pleasure as your claim that it is a growing concensus is ridiculous. Growing amongst who? you? Where is your proof that this in concensus, the template talk page shows quite the contrary.--E tac 23:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
    Also I find it funny you posting a warning on my talk page saying I have violated policy and need to use the talk page. I never went over 3 reverts and I added a comment on the topic to what little was on the talk page for the template you keep citing, where is your disscusion by the way since you seem to feel that you need to warn me? You made more reverts then me, not to mention you already were reported for this same thing earlier today.--E tac 23:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
      • I'm not the one claiming it is "concensus" and changing it on every article I can despite the fact that it looks like garbage so don't tell me to knock it off because I'm not the one instigating it and trying to pass it off as policy.--E tac 21:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
        • You didn't knock it off. Bad move, that's 24 hours for both E tac and 156.34.221.137. I am confident that all the 156.34s that edit heavy metal groups are the same user or group of users and the revert limit should apply to them all. Sam Blacketer 22:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:172.163.240.204 reported by User:Chubbles (Result:No violation)

    The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 172.163.240.204 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 23:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to: 17:31PM


    User posted some information about the band's charity work, along with this comment: One Middleburg man who went to Middleburg High School with Ronnie Winter, Michael Flamino, is trying to gain publicity by starting a "F**k Ronnie" slogan with his fledgling band, despite the Red Jumpsuit Apparatus' good works in fundraising for above said causes. I reverted wholesale. User restored, and I did a partial revert, keeping the bit about the charity work but removing the axegrinding. Two more reverts and here we are. Chubbles 23:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Naiseroder reported by User:Atari400 (Result:Warned)

    Arabization (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Naiseroder (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 08:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


    User Naiseroder continues to revert to an earlier version of this article without discussion. This earlier version of that article contains an image uploaded and inserted into the article by User Naiseroder. That image itself is very unencyclopedic in nature and a POV violation in content. In the process of trying to maintain the image's place within the article, User Naiseroder violated 3rr by committing 4 reverts in a 24 hour period. Atari400 08:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Naiseroder is a very new user, appears to be editing in good faith and was not warned or informed about the three revert rule. I will give a warning; can you please try to communicate to users and engage them in discussion rather than reporting here as your first stop? Sam Blacketer 10:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
    I understand your rationale, even though I do question how new this user is. After all, how many new users commit there very first edit with an image creation and upload? Atari400 20:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:E tac reported by User:142.166.239.237 (Result:24 hours concurrent)

    Comment User User was issued a warning for edit warring but later blanked the warning from his/her talk page. 142.166.239.237 22:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:E tac reported by User:142.166.239.237 (Result:24 hours concurrent)

    Comment User User was issued a warning for edit warring but later blanked the warning from his/her talk page. 142.166.239.237 22:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:207.219.255.27 reported by User:Edgarde (Result: Resolved elsewhere)


    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    IP user is revert warring to add anti-abortion page to External links. Talk page discussion considers link a POV smear site (defamatory in a bio article, albeit not a living person). 207.219.255.27 prefers to make points via ad hominem attacks. edg ☺ ★ 23:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

    This is resolved thru other admin intervention. / edg ☺ ★ 00:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Travb and User:129.71.73.248 reported by LotLE×talk (Result:24 for both)

    Guenter Lewy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Travb (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and 129.71.73.248 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 00:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to:
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    Users Travb and 129.71.73.248 have engaged in a slow, but constant revert war at Guenter Lewy over a rather trivial matter of choice of section titles. Apparently, these two users of a history of edit conflicts, and at this point, the reversions are simple one-upsmanship rather than representing any actual content disagreement at all.

    The last two dozen edits have consisted primarily of this trivial dispute. I asked the parties to discuss the matter on the article talk page, and they both carried it over to my user talk page (for no obvious reason). Both parties are engaging in this reversion just slowly enough to escape the letter of 3RR (i.e. ending at exactly 3 reversions each day), but doing the same thing every day in obvious violation of the spirit of the rule. LotLE×talk 00:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    Blech on a stick. Well, I can only admire your diligence in making such a long report. I've blocked both for 24 hours for clear edit warring. 3RR is not an entitlement to three reverts per day. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 07:06, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Warren reported by User:Tqbf (Result: Resolved amicably)

    Mac OS X v10.5 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Warren (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 01:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to:


    • 1st revert:
    • 2nd revert:
    • 3rd revert:
    • 4th revert:

    I agree with User:Warren's POV on these edits, regarding critiques of the OS X Leopard operating system in the press. I made a good faith effort to rewrite the section to reflect Warren's view of the critiques, which I share, and which is probably the majority view. Warren has decided that any critique that involves a "third party" or a "forum post" of any sort cannot remain in the article. These are drastic edits, and are rejecting solid work by other editors in favor of no alternative content. --- tqbf 01:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    These are not reverts of the same thing. Besides, Warren is reverting unsourced, unverified, and often unreliable sources. In any case, different reverts of different POV edits. This is a ridiculous ANI. OrangeMarlin 01:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    It doesn't matter if they are reverts of the same thing, 3RR specifically states "whether involving the same or different material each time." As far as reverting unsourced, etc., that exception to 3RR only applies to BLP. I can see where he's coming from, and agree with some of what he is doing, but he is clearly violating 3RR; he also just did a 5th revert over 3 posts . V-train 01:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    That's not my read of WP:3RR, which states "whether involving the same or different material each time", and makes an exception for "unsourced" material only for WP:BLP, not for POV disputes on inanimate objects. But if I'm wrong, I'll have learned something from this, so thanks! --- tqbf 01:18, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    Apparently in my 10,000 or so edits I somehow forgot to read these things. Damn. I guess I'm a noob. Sorry, but Warren is an outstanding editor. His reverts are of various, unsourced POV edits. That's allowed. Give me a break lecturing me ever again about what is said in Misplaced Pages. OrangeMarlin 01:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    Both myself and V-train have said repeatedly that we agree with the substance of Warren's problem. Please don't refer to me as a "POV-warrior". WP:AGF. Reverts weren't the right way to accomplish Warren's objective; he's essentially reverting NEWS.COM out an article on an OS. --- tqbf 01:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    Damn, once again you're trying to teaching me Wiki-lawyering. Cool, because apparently in 10,000 edits, a few GA's and FA', tons of vandal fighting, I somehow forgot how to read. I guess my BS, MBA, MS and MD degrees were purchased online. You got me there bud. Oh, one more thing. Usually the person who feigns being violated by AGF is the one whose usually violates AGF. Just thought you should know. OrangeMarlin 01:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    Could you please try to be civil? V-train 01:52, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    Note to whomever, the issue's been resolved via talk pages, and editing is moving forwards. -/- Warren 02:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    If, after I spent 45 minutes dredging up cites from 9 major trade press venues, my edits are not reverted by this user, I'll agree, noting that I perceive that the 3RR noticeboard posting helped end the edit war. --- tqbf 02:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    No, this filing had absolutely nothing to do with it. The fact that you stopped trying to use sources that are unsuitable for Misplaced Pages made all the difference. -/- Warren 07:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Ssbohio reported by User:SqueakBox (Result: Page Protected)

    Adult-child sex (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Ssbohio (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 05:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to:


    A user of 2 years experience and many edits so he clearly knows about 3rr, SqueakBox 05:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    (ec) My record speaks for itself. I do not use the revert function lightly or indiscriminately. This was not editing the article, this was replacing the article with a redirect. SqueakBox attempted to delete this article at ], then challenged the result at DRV, where he did not prevail. Undeterred, he did some more forum shopping, held an artificially short discussion, and deleted the article, replacing it with a redirect as he originally wanted to.
    My normal procedure is to use the one-revert rule, but, in this case, an experienced editor was deleting content that the community had determined (a few days before) there was no consensus to delete. I placed a notice at the administrators' noticeboard and reverted to preserve content where there was no consensus to delete demonstrated. He's tried to delete the article , or replace it with a redirect , , , multiple times. In this situation, SqueakBox deleted the article as shown above, then reverted my restoration once & twice, then Thebainer came in for the third deletion. The page finally required protection. If there's no consensus to delete the page, and that lack of consensus is confirmed by a deletion review, then gaming the system by blanking the page and putting up a redirect is no more supported by consensus than deletion was. --Ssbohio 06:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    • This case is messy... Article was AFD'd (no consensus defaulting to keep), followed by a DRV (endorse the keep), and then was redirected less than 24 hours since a merge call was asked on the talk page. I've page-protected this for a week so discussions can take place. - Penwhale | 06:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Haleth reported by User:Aladdin_Zane (Result:Warned)

    Stacy Carter (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Haleth (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 13:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    • Diff of 3RR warning:

    Haleth kept inserting material that was uncited me, and Nikki311 told him not to do it. During this he went to my talk page and used severe vulgarity towards me. Since this time he has also been reported as a sock puppet. By me and Nikki311 she mentioned on Stacy Carter talk page for him to be reported so I did. with plenty of evidence gathered. Another of the sock puppets was used on Stacy carter page today to partially revert what was being disputed yesterday, now making 5 reverts in 24 hours.Aladdin Zane 13:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    Actually he has editted in the past 24 hours, He was just using a sock puppet as noted here Aladdin Zane 17:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    That is unproved as yet. Sam Blacketer 17:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    Yeah I know it is still waiting review, there are a few other ahead of it. But once you go over the evidence there is no doubt it is the same person. BTW I'm not disagreeing with the warning, as he hasn't had one before. Just pointing out that he progressed to Sock puppetry after I warned him, instead of using Haleth a 5th time. Thanks for checking into thingsAladdin Zane 17:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:70.116.31.203 reported by User:Ultraexactzz (Result:24 hours)

    Salamander Sam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 70.116.31.203 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 16:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to: 10:10


    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    • Diff of 3RR warning: 10:11

    Anon user began to place CSD tags on multiple webcomic articles, including Salamander Sam, Shonen Punk!, Pandect, Dresden Codak, and at least two dozen others. The claimed CSD reasoning was WP:CSD#A7, which claims no assertion of notability. The tag was reverted. , as Salamander Sam does indeed claim notability. The user repeatedly reverted the removal, rather than initiating an Afd process or discussing the issue on the article's talk page. ZZ ~ Evidence 14:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    Also see ,, and Spryde 14:36, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    I'm curious as how salamander sam claims notability? Theresa Knott | The otter sank 14:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    not the issue. This is a violation of process, not a content based conflict. --Martin Wisse 14:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    Also up to 4 reverts on Perfect Storm (comic). . Ariel♥Gold 14:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    You are correct, Salamander Sam does not claim notability as such, and I struck that part of my report. However, per WP:CSD: Any user who is not the creator of a page may remove a speedy tag from it. The creator may not do this; a creator who disagrees with the speedy deletion should instead add "hangon" to the page, and explain the rationale on the page's discussion page. An article where the CSD tag is removed may still be nominated for deletion via AFD. The procedural violations here are the repeated reversion of the disputed CSD tag. ZZ ~ Evidence 14:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Dbachmann reported by User:Taharqa (Result: 24h)

    Race of ancient Egyptians (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Dbachmann (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 16:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to:

    First of an initial series of edits/reverts that disrupted the page at the expense of consensus, moving around the format, subsequent edits reworded and changed material, but this was the initial revert.

    ^^Same, simply reverting back to his revision

    ^^Same

    • 4th revert:

    13:42, 31 October 2007

    ^^Same


    The main problem I have is that this user was just recently reported for this exact same violation, yet it was ignored and he continues to violate and edit war with everybody.

    ^These are clear violations, though curiously, other have been blocked for much less concerning that page as it is a very very contentious page. Several users have complained about him and his lack of professionalism as a supposed senior member. He continues to edit war, and then takes it to people's talk pages to personally attack, while imposing his pov and unjustifiably threatening sanction because no one agrees with it. Beyond abusive and immature. He has also been warned on his talk page, and there are other misallaneous complaint about his abusive behavior as well. In any event, this all boils down to this one case that I'm reporting though which demonstrates that h's clearly violated policy ad 3RR..Taharqa 16:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

    User:Rimerimea reported by User:SparsityProblem (Result:24 hours)

    Atefah Sahaaleh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Rimerimea (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 01:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    User reverted edits to article multiple times, and has been given ample warning. I explained that YouTube was not a reliable source, but user continues to restore some dubious claims with a YouTube link as the only source, despite being reverted by the bot that reverts such links. SparsityProblem 01:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    • Clear case; reverting many times, not just to add the problem YouTube link, and after being warned and given helpful advice. This user, although new, was being disruptive and so I have blocked for 24 hours. Sam Blacketer 09:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    User:219.90.242.174 reported by User:Irishguy (Result:Page protected; 31 hours)

    Serge Gainsbourg‎ (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 219.90.242.174 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 02:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    Also using 122.49.166.14. Harassing other editors while edit warring. IrishGuy 02:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    Irishguy vandalised that article repeatedly, and refused to answer questions as to why, or use the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.167.51 (talk • contribs)

    User:Gscshoyru reported by User:219.90.167.51 (Result:No violation)

    Serge Gainsbourg‎ (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Gscshoyru (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 02:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    The reverts are removing information that has a valid source. Refusing to provide a reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.167.51 (talk • contribs)

    You have not provided diffs, so this report is malformed. But, I have only made three, so am not in violation of the rule, and you, on the other hand, have -- see above report. Gscshoyru 03:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    User:GB-UK-BI reported by User:TheGerm (Result:Indefinite)

    Aero L-159 Alca (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). GB-UK-BI (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 02:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    • Necessary for newer users: A diff of 3RR warning issued before the last reported reversion.

    Your report will be ignored if it is not placed properly.

    • Diff of 3RR warning: 19:10

    It looks like User:GB-UK-BI is changing ID often and has been blocked on other IP addresses... Read comments from User:Noclador on User talk:GB-UK-BI Germ 02:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    User:Sfacets reported by User:Will Beback (Result:No action)

    Sahaja Yoga (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Sfacets (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 04:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    I have reverted the edits mentionned. Feel free to mention if I missed any and I will fix them. Thx. Sfacets 04:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    According to this current/diff there are still added materials that you reverted. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 04:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Blocks under the three revert rule are preventive, to prevent disruption. Even if there are individual sentences in the article which may not be present (I don't have the time to check in detail), the fact that Sfacets has self-reverted and is clearly aware of the need to avoid disruption, is a substantial argument against a block. All concerned are encouraged to engage in civil discourse on the article talk page. Sam Blacketer 10:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    User:Steve Dufour reported by User:Anynobody (Result:No action)

    Barbara Schwarz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Steve Dufour (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 05:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    Steve Dufour has a history of trying to minimize this article. Lately he has been insisiting that the article be written his way despite previous conversations on the articles talk page already explaining the rationale behind the information he doesn't like. Anynobody 05:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    This concerns negative material with the intention to attack a living person. On the Usenet site alt.religion.scientology there has been a long-going campaign of harassment against Barbara Schwarz, the subject of the article, with the intention of driving her to commit suicide. This is the reason I feel so strongly about this article. I would prefer not to edit it anymore myself; but if no one else will work to keep it an encyclopedia article, not an attack, I will continue until I am kicked off of Misplaced Pages. Steve Dufour 06:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    With all due respect, this is not alt.religion.scientology though and the article didn't say anything that wasn't in a WP:RS. Anynobody 06:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    If the article remains on a respectful level toward its subject I will not object. Steve Dufour 06:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    Except that your idea of respect ignores reliable sources and favors your personal preferences. I really hate having to point this out, but you're essentially saying you have no intention of abdidng by policies, guidelines and even consensus to do what you think is "right"... I will continue until I am kicked off of Misplaced Pages. Anynobody 06:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    • If the claimed WP:BLP exemption is disregarded, then there would be a technical three revert rule violation. The application of BLP is difficult and questionable but because Steve Dufour is clearly acting in good faith in believing it is applicable, to block him for disruption would be wrong. Hence I do not propose to take any action about the 3RR report. Further work should be taken to make sure the article complies with BLP policy because this is a controversial biography subject who has antagonised one group of people while being perceived as a crank by others; such a situation means that both groups start off with some reason to include questionable material. Sam Blacketer 11:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
    Thank you Sam. I will take a break from editing the article for a while and see what happens with it. Steve Dufour 11:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    User:Steven Andrew Miller reported by User:Eleemosynary (Result:24 hours)

    Michael Mukasey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Steven Andrew Miller (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 09:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to:

    User:Steven Andrew Miller is conducting an edit war on the Mukasey page, similar to one he is also conducting on the Scott Thomas Beauchamp page. (Please see his earlier 3RR violation report, by another user, above.) He has been warned about edit warring in the past, but has deleted the warnings as "spam," here. He's also been blocked for 3RR, so he's well aware of the policy. --Eleemosynary 09:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    User:Simon D M reported by User:Sfacets (Result:protected)

    Sahaja Yoga (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Simon D M (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 11:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    • Previous version reverted to:


    • Diff of 3RR warning:

    User has reverted more than 3 4 5 times over 24 hours, despite a warning being given. Note that the submitter also inadvertently transgressed, however self-reverted after warning.Sfacets 11:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    Yes, as the note explains^. Sfacets 13:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
    Protected the page for 48 hours. I don't care about good intentions/bad intentions here, too many reverts recently. More discussion required. Protection will, hopefully, force it. Mangojuice 17:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    User:Piotrus reported by User:M0RD00R (Result:warning)

    • user:Piotrus was already blocked for 3RR violation in the past

    For some time user:Piotrus engages in edit war by reverting full or parts of text, while 3RR rule clearly states: An editor must not perform more than three reverts, in whole or in part, on a single page within a 24-hour period. A revert means undoing the actions of another editor, whether involving the same or different material each time. So violation is obvious. M0RD00R 16:48, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    This particular list of edits doesn't look like a violation to me, except in the most legalistic reading. I left Piotrus a note reminding him about 3RR; that should be sufficient. Mangojuice 17:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
    3 times referenced info was removed, 5th revert is removal of the reference that was added upon request. So nothing legalistic but pure edit warring case and a breach of 3RR IMO. M0RD00R 17:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
    The 1st revert is not a revert - it is a normal edit; MORDOOR claims it was a revert to this revision which is obviously not true. I have simply removed a dubious claim that as discussion at related talk pages show is not supported by reliable source, a claim that has not been ever challenged since it was added a few weeks ago to the article (which, accidentally, I expanded to the GA-level).
    Reverts 3rd and 4th are one revert - I could have just as well made one edit instead of two and removed both the dubious claim and the tag in a single edit; I did two to provide a better WP:SUMMARY in my edits. To claim that hence I broke the 3RR is obviously wikilawyering.
    I would also point out that MORDOOR has not contributed to this article in the past; his revert warring there at present - which seems to be his only contribution in the past day or so - borders on WP:STALKing my person. Further, MOORDOR revert warring is a violation of WP:V and WP:RS - he is removing a proper attribution to Zhylenko, instead replacing it with some non-English and less reliable website. Such disruptive behavior certainly should warrant a warning.
    -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

    User:Moldopodo reported by User:Moldorubo (Result: )

    Moldova (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Moldopodo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 17:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


    • 1st revert:
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    He was warned before. Moldorubo 17:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

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