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as a student who has studied in this area for 4 years i see absolutely nothing wrong with this article and canot understand why it is subject to a notablilty tag other than childish revenge from adminstrators hellbent at spamming or advertising unheard of bands or shops selected from a mall. The main issue in the area is the purple berlin wall designed to cut off the smaller retailers in the real Drake circus as a student who has studied in this area for 4 years i see absolutely nothing wrong with this article and canot understand why it is subject to a notablilty tag other than childish revenge from adminstrators hellbent at spamming or advertising unheard of bands or shops selected from a mall. The main issue in the area is the purple berlin wall designed to cut off the smaller retailers in the real Drake circus from the city centre.

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Pity this article is so bare - Drake Circus was the roundabout at that location, and the area that was demolished was Eastlake Street, and the old shopping area above it. The old area was a shocking example of bad architecture. And yes, we seem to have an area full of bins still there today with no development slap bang in the middle of the city. A lot of potential for an interesting article. Stevebritgimp 16:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, this article has changed substantially since May; what do you think of it now? Smalljim 19:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


Pity this article was orginally so inaccurate - Drake Circus is the postal district and official sub-district of North Hill, plymouth. It currently includes the Musuem, Art Gallery, library, pubs, bars, cafes, solicitors, barristers chambers and shops. It is also one of the few areas in plymouth that was not destroyed in the blitz on plymouth during the 2nd world war. It does NOT include the shopping mall known as 'drakecircus' which falls within the postal district of Bretonside. Drake Circus has no legal or commercial connection to 'drakecircus' which is a protected and registered trademark. Visual and pedestrian access to the southern end of Drake Circus was fenced off by a purple builders fence in 2006 where it remains to this very day. The only reason reference to the shopping mall should exist in any article on Drake Circus is because of the purple fence. In all other respects the article was made to promote the commercial interests of the shopping mall and bears no relation to real or accurate facts.
The above comment was added by User:Yiwentang, 04:23, 30 October 2007

Pending resolution of the dispute that will probably arise from today's edits to this article, I have moved its former content to Drake Circus Shopping Centre, and added a pointer to it at the top of this article. I've also added a notability tag to this page, because I cannot see any reason why this "sub-district" is any more notable than thousands of others (see here).
Please remember that editing Misplaced Pages is a matter of consensus, and making wide-ranging changes like you have done here without discussion is not acceptable. Smalljim 13:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

By the same token I cannot see any reason why DrakeCircus shopping mall is any more notable than any other shop or shopping mall. It is blatant spam and used to promote a commercial interest. If you wish to state publicly that Drake Circus is purely a shopping mall and not an area or address of the university, museum and various other organizations, then you should be put on notice that they will institute legal proceedings against you for the considerable damage you are causing. For example every degree, be it Masters, Bachelor or Doctorate etc issued by the University refers on it to the registered address 'drake circus' If attempts to misrepresent that address by implying or expressing that it is purely a shopping centre then expect a class lawsuit against you and the editors and owners of Misplaced Pages in particular but not limited to, the lowering of the reputation of the University and the devaluation of the issued degrees. Moreover the businesses within that district have been associated with the name Drake Circus for over 160 years and to suggest otherwise is a blatant libel. You have been warned. Yiwentang 14:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)yiwenTang

I replied over at Talk:Drake Circus Shopping Centre. --Smalljim 14:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

It is an affrontry to academic research that a spammer trying to promote a spud-you-like site should be able to diminish the value of degree awards in this fashion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.45.220.163 (talk) 18:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

There are over 27,000 Plymouth University students who are offended by the constant vanadalism of this article on Drake Circus by those seeking to promote a cheap shopping mall. The evidence of the truth is for all of them to see every day and Wikipedias denial of the truth has lowered its reputation to a level even lower than hitherto perceived by Universities throughout the globe. 11,000 of them dwell in accomodation halls in Drake Circus and to imply that Drake Circus is a term solely reserved to a cheap mall is insulting and degrading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.157.81 (talk) 22:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

As a curator I have thoroughly checked the accuracy and relevancy of this article and nothing in it suggests any improprietary or misleading information. I live and work in a builing that is over 170 years old and located in Drake Circus. It is a listed building and to imply that it is linked to the likes of "spud-u-like" is the subject of a great deal of ridicule to the many thousands who live, work and study in this area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curatorpccgovuk (talkcontribs) 00:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

If you check the history page of the article many others have cited reliable sources to corrorbate their statements however all these references are continually deleted/vandalised. In particular if you look at the shaded grey area on this map university campus and then look at the address on this page university address hopefully you might appreciate that the shopping mall is not in the Drake Circus area. H.H.Land Registry and H.M. Valuation office records will prove beyond all reasonable doubt that the shopping mall fronts Bretonside - not Drake Circus. If you want proof of the local resentment i then come here and ask the local retailers how they feel about having their historical identity misappropiated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curatorpccgovuk (talk • [[Special:Contributions /Curatorpccgovuk|contribs]]) 01:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

To suggest "drake circus is a shopping mall" is equivalent to saying "Seattle is a tower". Its absurd and neglects the 24,000 students, residents, shopkeepers, bar, night clubs etc that all live work and play in Drake Circus. It not only insults the culture of drake circus but Misplaced Pages itself for allowing such nonsense to be published.

The obvious impression given to anyone reading this dispute is that certain administrators are desperate to keep in links to selected shops in which presumably they have a commercial interest. I have put 7 references on the other page and already they have all been swiftly removed. What a joke this encyclopedia is. Drake Circus is NOT just a shopping centre it’s an area which among other things includes the University of Plymouth. Any moron can see the administrators are desperate to hide the truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.137.148 (talk) 11:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I see new images of drake circusthis site has updated its page with the images the public outside plymouth are not suppose to see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.171.40 (talk) 17:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

as a student who has studied in this area for 4 years i see absolutely nothing wrong with this article and canot understand why it is subject to a notablilty tag other than childish revenge from adminstrators hellbent at spamming or advertising unheard of bands or shops selected from a mall. The main issue in the area is the purple berlin wall designed to cut off the smaller retailers in the real Drake circus from the city centre.

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