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Archives ( 8 June 2006 - 12 June 2007 )

Grey Owl

Hiya Your bot just made some changes to a URL on the Grey Owl article's external links section. Thing is, the page that it's changed the link to doesn't exist. Shurely shome mishtake? Vizjim 09:12, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Looks like it was a dead link before the bot edit . I'll try and find the replacement or remove it from the article. -- I already forgot  talk  09:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Please vote for whether Gun Nut deserves deletion or not

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gun_Nut --BillyTFried 23:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The Persistence of Memory Image

This image appears on Misplaced Pages under a claim of fair use, but is copyrighted. Therefore, it should only appear on articles related to the subject of the image. Could you please remove it from your user page to prevent a copyright violation? Thanks. Ian¹³/t 09:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Michelle K

My big problem with that section is always that it appears to support one point of view and I think it is blown out of proportion. Yes, that is what caused her to come to national attention, but reading through the various sources it appears that many bloggers jumped on it and that is what resulted in most of the notoriety of the incident and the more established media to report on it. I put the sentence in, but think the paragraph could be re-written with a better structure. Shsilver 17:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Abrasive Flow Machining

This article is a stub right now, and you list extrude honing as something you've done. Feel like expanding the article? I'd be interested in learning more about the process; I've always been a tinkerer, and I think extrude honing would be an interesting process to apply to cheap airguns for performance improvement. (assuming of course the process lends itself to some DIY hacks) scot 19:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't have any refs to back up my edits to the article but if I can dig some up I will add what I know. Without any refs and just for discussion on my talk page to help guide you in the right direction to find credible refs... The extrude hone type abrasive flow machining uses an upper and lower cylinder actuated by hydraulic pistons. You charge (shove media in by hand) the bottom cylinder with the media made of a putty type substance that contains abrasive material like silicon carbide. You then put the part to be honed in a fixture (I used delrin because of the ability to resist wear) and then lower the top cylinder down onto the fixture. You then adjust the hydraulic pressure from a couple hundred PSI to the upper limit of the machine (1000 psi plus). The amount of pressure set with the hydraulic regulator determines the amount of material removed and heat generated with each pass. You can either have the media flow from the bottom cylinder through the part, into the top cylinder, and then back down trough the part into the bottom cylinder to perform multiple cycles -or- you can have the media flow from the bottom cylinder through the part and then onto the work table with the upper cylinder never receiving a charge and only a half cycle completed. Many of the small medical devices I made and then polished with extrude hone used a bottom plate with small diameter channels to direct the media flow through the part onto the table. This allowed me to hold onto small parts without the need to hold the part in the middle of the cylinder and without putting too much pressure on the part as the needed clearance was added to the fixture to reduce clamping pressure. It's a pretty simple process but because of the high pressures used, can be dangerous (if not life threating) if done without the proper equipment or done with home made devices. --I already forgot 20:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Everyday Journeyman

I don't know how to ask you a question, if this is the correct function, but someone (you) continues to delete my edits. I have a website listed as a citation and a forthcoming book/documentary project that will further back up the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loyalfromlondon (talk • contribs) Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 00:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Ronnotel's RfA

I indented your struck oppose since it was showing up as a double !vote. —  06:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Thanks for fixing it. --I already forgot 06:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Undo issue

Hi, I noticed you deleted my external link in PHP, WizzyWeb. Whereas all the other companies in the article have external links, your edit seems bias. Please advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.153.216 (talk) 21:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean about me being biased. Read up on how|when external links should be added to an article and you might better understand why external links to unrelated pages should not be included in the article.--I already forgot 01:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

What I mean by bias is that again, every company mentioned in the PHP article has a link - why shouldn't WizzyWeb? I did read the external link page before and after adding the link. WizzyWeb is a PHP code generator, similar to how every other company mentioned in their given space is. Please explain your position if you disagree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.153.216 (talk) 10:11, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

"every company mentioned in the PHP article has a link" The links point to articles or websites that are directly related to the php scripting language.

1. php.net: is the official site for PHP
2. zend.com: is a link to Zeev Suraski and Andi Gutmans site. They are the co-founders of PHP.
3. pear.php.net: is the main extension and application repository for PHP
4. The dmoz link is often provided as a compromise to cut down on excessive unrelated links added to the article. I personally think it should be removed but wikipedians have accepted it as a compromise so it gets used often.
5. oracle.com: Is a link to an article by php creator Rasmus Lerdorf.

Pretty cut and dry. Also, adding a link to a company you are affiliated with or adding the link to promote the site is covered at WP:EL. I suggest you read it in its entirety and take up the issue on the articles talk page. Thanks. --I already forgot 02:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I also noticed that you removed links that I had put into several sections regarding legacy language transformation. We provide information to people interested in those legacy languages on their options for modernization. This is not spam. I also note that you left three external links on the LINC page - why are they deemed by you to be more relevant than ours? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveMQuipoz (talk • contribs) 05:32, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

This is also covered at WP:EL.--I already forgot 02:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Flags

Hi. I saw your posts at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Firearms and User talk:Akradecki regarding flag icons and their use in Misplaced Pages. Just as you refer in the topic above to Misplaced Pages:External links to help the anonymous editor understand why posting external links can be problematic, I refer to Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (flags) as guidance for the use of flag icons. Now we both know that guidelines are just guidelines, that there are exceptions to rules, and so on. WP:EL does not say there should be no external links in Misplaced Pages, it gives guidance on which ones should usually be (or not be) included. WP:MOSFLAG is similar; it does not prohibit the use of flags, instead it gives advice about ways they should and shouldn't be used. The clause I am mainly talking about here is "Flag and other icons are commonly misused as decoration. Adding a country's flag next to its name does not provide additional encyclopedic information in a general context, and is often simply distracting (example). Misplaced Pages generally strongly eschews the use of images for decorative purposes, preferring those that provide additional essential information or needed illustration." There has (so far) been consensus that the use of flag icons in sporting articles is more defensible, because a sportsperson (or in the case you identified, a national sporting team) has verifiably identified as playing "under" a particular flag. Similarly, the use of flag icons in data tables can save space and this use is not problematic either.

Now, without wishing to comment here on another user's behaviour, I would also add that these (to me) fairly minor style issues pale into utter insignificance besides issues like civility. No less a person than User:Jimbo Wales has recently stated that "I am running out of patience for incivility at Misplaced Pages ... note that all editors should always endeavor to treat each other with kindness, or else find another hobby... We should be gentle, but firm: this kind of behavior is not allowed at Misplaced Pages."

I do hope I have managed to clarify your doubts about this issue. Best wishes, --John 19:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I think everyone got a little worked up over the issue but I'm sure you guys/gals will make the best decision so I'll step back for a while and let everyone work this one out. Thanks again for the reply. --I already forgot 19:23, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

And that is exactly the kind of well thought-out, reasoned approach that I was trying to suggest Asams10 make. It's that kind of thought and discussion addressed to the guidelines involved that actually build consensus and help craft the guidelines themselves. Thank you! AKRadecki 15:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Being that none of us get paid for what we do, I can understand how easy it is to get worked up over simple issues when we think or know that what we are doing is the right thing. I'm sure Asams10 is just trying to do the right thing but has a few bad days now and then... I know I do. My opinion is we get hit with so much vandalism and spam, that we need to hold onto the editors doing good work keeping up the facts and/or standards of the articles even if they are difficult to work with. I'm sure you know better than anyone that with so many personalities it's never going to be easy. --I already forgot 16:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Never going to be easy? There are so many trolls out these days that it is rarely good, which is why I try to make a point and thank folks like you as above.

Blocked

Because of this garbage. Don't know if you've lost the plot or if this account is compromised... in any event, such comments will not be tolerated, and you shall remain blocked until you can provide a good explanation. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 07:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)