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About 2/3 of the way down:<blockquote>In a front-page story in The Wall Street Journal, Karl Rove dismissed Gaffney's assertions regarding President Bush stating "there's no there there".</blockquote>Did Rove say that "there's no ''there'' there" about Gaffney, or did Gaffney say that about Bush? If the former, then it's unclear what "assertions" are under discussion. ] 23:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC) About 2/3 of the way down:<blockquote>In a front-page story in The Wall Street Journal, Karl Rove dismissed Gaffney's assertions regarding President Bush stating "there's no there there".</blockquote>Did Rove say that "there's no ''there'' there" about Gaffney, or did Gaffney say that about Bush? If the former, then it's unclear what "assertions" are under discussion. ] 23:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

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Why is he categorised as a '''Jewish Politician''' when our article does not state that he is either Jewish by ethnicity or religion and neither does it mention that he ever stood for elected office?

I understood that we had to be very cautious and insist on impeccable citations where bigraphies of living persons were concerned - or does this not apply to categories? ] 05:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

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He's a Jew; someone put in the appropriate category please.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.74 (talkcontribs)

Do you have a link or source? Derktar 22:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC).

POV

At the bottom of the article:

To this day, Gaffney is despised by many clear thinking people in the United States, as he continues his tirade against progressive, logical and moral values. His pitting of citizen against citizen, to many, is the cornerstone of his diatribe against modernity.

I need not explain how grossly POV this is, and am removing it. (I think Norquist's "sick, little bigot" comment handles it gracefully :) ) Caidence 04:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

The article kind of reads like a hatchet job in general. It comes off like his biggest accomplishment is angering political folks, include the authors of the article! It's full of unsourced statements and unimportant facts (He once misquoted a famous figure, not a very notable feat). It violates many Misplaced Pages guidelines and policies as it is now; I'll snip it a bit. Calbaer 01:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
By the way, the article with the misquote seems not to exist on washingtontimes.com or archive.org, and the only evidence I can find for it existing is Greenwald's article. Greenwald is known in right-wing circles for engaging in online trickery, so if he's the only source for it, it should probably be removed. I'll put a summary here for anyone who's interested in reviving it; a paragraph is a bit much for an article that seems to have been ignored by everyone except Greenwald (unless Greenwald's misquoting):
He has been criticized for using a statement misattributed to Abraham Lincoln regarding "congressmen who willfully take action during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military" being "hanged," echoing that "If there's one thing that really should be a hanging offense," it is such behavior.
It looks like Greenwald may have his dates wrong (talking about a "column in today's ... Times" on a Wednesday, when Gaffney's articles seem to run Tuesdays). Perhaps Greenwald's date stamp isn't what he intended, which makes it even harder to find the article in question. Anyway, the "controversial" statement should be left out until we can find the article itself and some evidence that others aside from Greenwald cared about it. Otherwise, it's nonnotable. Calbaer 02:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it not inappropriate to add that FG was involved a documentary for PBS's America at a Crossroads series, Islam vs. Islamists: Voices from the Muslim Center. Asteriks 11:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Ambiguous wording

About 2/3 of the way down:

In a front-page story in The Wall Street Journal, Karl Rove dismissed Gaffney's assertions regarding President Bush stating "there's no there there".

Did Rove say that "there's no there there" about Gaffney, or did Gaffney say that about Bush? If the former, then it's unclear what "assertions" are under discussion. Lincmad 23:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Categorisation

Why is he categorised as a Jewish Politician when our article does not state that he is either Jewish by ethnicity or religion and neither does it mention that he ever stood for elected office?

I understood that we had to be very cautious and insist on impeccable citations where bigraphies of living persons were concerned - or does this not apply to categories? Alice.S 05:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

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