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== Hurrian-Aryan links == | |||
] were an ] tribe which migrated west from their homeland around the 3rd millennium BC. "Har"an was the capital of the Hurrians. "Har"-minni is the alternative way of saying "Ar"mani, which the "H" is silent and its pronounced as "Ar"mani. To this day Assyrians and Persians call Armenians by "Armani" (aka Armani-] or Subarian-Hurrian-Nairian) from the 2300 BC Akkadian inscriptions referring to them as Armani. Some scholars reveal that ] are the same as ]. The land of Ararat or the ] is the home of the "]"(]) people. Armenians refer to themselves as "Aryaee" (Aryan) in their language. The root word "Ar" meaning Sun, Light, Fire (the same as the word "Hurri/Hur") which is used in a lot of words such as ], ], ], Armeni, ], ], Arev, etc etc. | |||
{{cquote|These are some "'''Ancient Records'''" that will reveal the Armenians ancient history: | |||
*'''Artatama''''s (Armenian name with 'Arta' prefix) title is "'''king of the Hurri'''", yet again reveals the Hurrian-Aryan links (note: not to mention linguists who say Hurrian language is far from complete) | |||
* ] and ], The Early History of Indo-European Languages, Scientific American, March 1990 (they reveal that Armenian Highland and Armenian language is the root of Aryan-IE) | |||
*] of ] (1500 BC) mentions the people of "'''Ermenen'''" paying tribute when he held his court at Ninevah, and says that in their land "'''heaven rests upon its four pillars.'''" (note: Tutmose III was the first Pharaoh to cross the Euphrates to reach the Armenian Highlands) | |||
*] name "'''Armin'''" meant "'''dweller of the garden of Eden'''" (Persians also used this form '''Armin'''a for Armenia) | |||
*Menua, king of Urartu (our Khaldi tribe cousins) mentions the "'''Armeni'''" '''native''' in the "land of Ari" (Ariyan) | |||
*] inscription "'''Haya'''" as early as 3000 BC way before "'''Hayasa'''" of Hittite inscription 1400 BC | |||
*] inscriptions from as early as 2400 BC mention the "'''Armani'''" (aka '''Armani-Subartu''' or '''Arme-Subria''' or '''Hurrians''') near Lake Van (note: To this day ] (direct descendents of Akkadians) refer to Armenians by this form 'Armani')}} | |||
Tigran the Great's crown (look here ] for his image) is exactly of the "Hurri"-Mitanni seal with the 2 eagles and sun with the 8 (number of eternity) rays. Hurri-Mitanni kings names like '''Artatama''' translates to "'''most righteous'''", which the first part of the word '''Arta''' ('''this prefix persists in Armenian to this day, but not found in Kurds or Persians anymore''') means righteous in '''Armenian'''. It is interesting to point out aso that '''Artatama''''s (Armenian Aryan-IE name) title was "'''King of the ]'''", which yet again reveals that Hurrians are linked with Aryans. Tusratta translates to "ten chariots", and Tus is Ten in Armenian. Hurri/Hur the very word used now in Armenian, was the same word and meaning in ] times. | |||
== Many Armenian (Aryan) words in Sanskrit == | |||
http://www.tacentral.com/erebuni/2ndwave.asp 12,000 year history of Armenia | |||
Armenian is a separate branch of the Indo-European language family, though it has similarities to languages as far flung as Indian Sanskrit, Persian, Old Greek (Ponti) and Aramaic. The largest of the language families, the Indo-European "tree" is now believed to have sprung from the Armenian Highlands. Developing into sub-branches by around 7000 BC, Indo-European (also known as "Hindo-Aryan") peoples broke off into two main sub-groups: Greek-Armenian and Indo-Iranian. Around 4000 BC, these ethnic groups further subdivided into the Greek-Armenian, Indian Sanskrit, and the Iranian languages. ] 20:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC) ] | |||
http://www.tacentral.com/mythology.asp?story_no=3 | |||
The Armenian language is a part of the Indo-European (Indo-Aryan) language tree, and the Indo-Europeans are believed to have originated on or near the Armenian Plateau, migrating throughout Western and Central Asia and Europe. Indo-European took more than a root language with them, they brought ideas and beliefs distinct to their native home. Among these were the zodiac and the myths that sprung from their origins. One of the destinations for the Indo-European culture was Northern India, another the Doric culture in Greece. The Sanskrit language in particular has many root words identical to those found in Armenian. | |||
There is also a common mythology between the cultures, beginning with the myth of Vishnu in Sanskrit, and ending with Dionysus in Greek mythology. | |||
Indu-Aryan-Sanskrit(Mitanni, where Ur"Hai"/Urfa is located) words in Armenian. Indo-Iranian (Persian) doesnt even have these words, I asked my engerooheee in Iran, she said they dont have it. I will even check Old Persian. This proves we were there in Mitanni time, and Indu people were also, one of the Aryans that migrated in 1200 BC after Mitanni :) | |||
aprana : beyond manifest life; devoid of life aprel | |||
aruna : red | |||
para : higher; supreme; other; in Tantricism, unmanifest sound "Bar"zr "Par"zr = supreme, medz | |||
para bhakti : supreme devotion | |||
para nadi : a yogic nerve | |||
para vibhuti : superior vibhuti | |||
parabraham : the Absolute | |||
Parabrahman : the Supreme Absolute | |||
All our words have deep spiritual meanings! | |||
jnana lakshana : sign of wisdom nshan janabar | |||
jnana marga : path of knowledge janabar | |||
jnana vichara : inquiry regarding knowledge vichel janabar | |||
jnana yoga : the method of realizing the Absolute through knowledge | |||
jnanagni : fire of wisdom | |||
jnanameva chakshus : All-seeing eyes | |||
jnanendriya : sense organ | |||
jnani : sage; one who has realized the Self "jana"cheer | |||
mati : thinking power matazel | |||
gita : knowledge; gitak- | |||
arog : health aroghj- | |||
gyan- : life gyank | |||
kendra : center; heart kendron | |||
avatar : incarnation of God (h)avat | |||
avidya : nescience; ignorance of our true nature; all consciousness or knowledge, so long as it is restricted to the subject-object manifold (h)avidya | |||
lakshana : sign; definition nshanakel | |||
Avatâra: descend of the Supreme Lord. Avedaran | |||
Arcana: honoring, praise, homage paid, the reverence before a m û r t i or the connecting of one's senses in the service of the Lord (see: b h â g a v a t a d h a r m a). | |||
Arca-vigraha: the incarnation of the Lord in a seemingly materially created form meant to facilitate new devotees, to worship Him (see M û r t i). Arka! | |||
Ashthânga-yoga: the eightfold path of y o g a Asdvadz | |||
Ashtha-siddhis: the eight mystical perfection Ashtdvadz | |||
Âstikyam: religious connectedness, faithfullness, trust in the principles of religion, piety. | |||
Âdhi: place, situation, (se | |||
Ârati: lightoffering; ritual at which before the idol, His a r c â - form (see M û r t i), | |||
flowers, water, incense and light are being offered. | |||
Âryan: the civilized, progressive, cultured person of spiritual realization | |||
there is way moer this is just "A" section ] 20:31, 23 January 2007 (UTC) ] | |||
jhrana - water(or waterfall) jhran(sk), jhrvej, jur (Greek and Persian not close with this word and many others: Greek-nero, Persian-ab) | |||
shvana or shun dog | |||
Carrot-gazar-gazr (again these words not in Persian) | |||
Crowd - ambokh -amboh (again these words not in Persian) | |||
http://www.selfdiscoveryportal.com/cmSanskrit.htm | |||
http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/glossary/a.html | |||
http://sanskritdocuments.org/hindi/dict/eng-hin-itrans.html | |||
http://www.angelfire.com/hi/Azgaser/AR.html from ''Martiros Kavoukjian's'' Armenia, | |||
Sumer, Subartu, 1982 | |||
http://arevordi.blogspot.com 12,000 year history of Armenia | |||
http://www.armenianhighland.com 12,000 year history of Armenia | |||
http://www.saintsarkis.org/Language.htm roots of Armenian language | |||
] of Egypt (1500 BC in his 23rd year records) mentions the people of '''Ermen'''en as paying tribute when he held his court at Nineveh, and says that in their land "heaven rests upon its four pillars." | |||
http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Def.show/RTD/ISBE/ID/741 | |||
==Persian words more similar to Phrygians, rather than Armenian words== | |||
Due to the invasion of the Medes and Persians in the Anatolian region, the Persians borrowed or exchanged words with Greeks and Phrygians. Also, since Persians took over the power in the Middle east, the Armenians were submitted to them, so they were with them in Anatolia. This explains where we get these similar words, yet Persians have the words more similar. | |||
Phrygian words include: | |||
* germe, 'warm', | |||
PIE *gwher-, 'warm'; cognate to Gk: thermos (θερμός) "warm", Per: garme "warm", Arm: ĵerm "warm", Alb: zjarm "warm". | |||
* mater, 'mother', | |||
cf. Gk: meter (μήτηρ) "mother", Per: madar "mother", (Armenian 'mair' Persian madar more similar) | |||
* brater, 'brother', | |||
PIE *bhrater-, 'brother'; Per: bratar 'brother' (Armenian 'eghbair' Persian bratar more similar) | |||
afsoos, ogheyanos, etc etc are more similar words in Persian with Phrygians(or Greek) than Armenian. | |||
<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 21:43, 23 January 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
== Armenian,Persian, Indian words similar because all are '''Aryan''' peoples== | |||
I have so far found 45 Persian words that are Armenian. There are way over 45, but this is what I found so far. Out of these 45 words, the roots and origins is clearly Armenian. Let me give some examples: | |||
*Blue in Armenian "gabooyd" is "abee" in Persian | |||
Armenian gabooyd clearly was the much longer and complete word. | |||
*Pocket in Armenian "grban" is "geeb" in Persian | |||
Once again Armenian grban clearly was the much longer and complete word. | |||
*News in Armenian "nor" is "no" in Persian | |||
Once again Armenian nor is clearly the much longer and complete word. | |||
*Ant in Armenian "mrjoon" is "morche" in Persian | |||
Once again Armenian mrjoon is more longer and complete word | |||
*Mail in Armenain "namag" is "nameh" in Persian | |||
Once again Armenian longer and complete word | |||
And there are plenty more examples like: | |||
*zung - zang | |||
*spitak - sefeed | |||
*usdkh - setar | |||
*mard - mard | |||
*vardana - vardana | |||
*sev - sey | |||
*muz - mo | |||
*gov - guv | |||
*dakdag - takteh | |||
*khetzkhet - kharchang | |||
*nov - nuv | |||
*baneer - paneer | |||
*gadoo - gorbeh | |||
*vocheech - heechee | |||
*jerm - garme(Phrygian germe more Persian) | |||
*pogh - pool | |||
*kuz - khok | |||
*madeed - medod | |||
*vad - bad | |||
*mekh - mikh | |||
*vayree - vashee | |||
*sur - sar | |||
*hazar - hezar | |||
*husheev - hesob | |||
*tag - tug | |||
*door - dar | |||
*breenz - berenj | |||
*noor - anor | |||
*dooster - dokhtar | |||
*badick - orduck | |||
*umb - abr | |||
*moog - moosh | |||
*dod - dad | |||
*azad - azad | |||
*ofgyanos - ogheyanos(Greek also) | |||
*absos - afsoos(Greek also) | |||
*zunbyoogh - zanbil | |||
All these and more are Persian words I found that are taken from Armenian. The Armenian original words are much longer and complete ] 21:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
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==Understanding Aryan and Armenian roots== | |||
The info I realized first of the inaccuracy of Herodotus, that they use as their only source, and that Phrygians share more similar words with Persians. Mushki is also rememberd to this day in Georgia. Georgians and Kurds have links with Mushki/Mushku, which is basically the Phrygians. Its amazing how much lies they put on Misplaced Pages and other places. Persians have more similar words, yet they put way different Armenian words with the Phrygians!. Persians power around 500BC and weakining of our kingdom of Ararat(Urartu), made the Armenians submit to the Persians and carried to Anatolia with them. We have to see all sides of the history, for example why did the Persians go to West Anatolia in the first place, what was their purpose, and they carrying Armenians with them there. Also about the amazing amount of Sanskrit words and the deep spiritual meaning of our words like Asta-(Astavadz) meaning "8 perfection" in Sanskrit, do you see this is amazing man?! Also "Avidya janabar" they use the same words! Vichel janabar(jnana) = inquiry regarding knowledge , so many of them. 'Ar'menians even use the root word "Ar" (Sun, Light, Life, Love)for main words like "Ar"men, "Ar-Ar"at(Aratta), Arev, "Ar"mad(root of "Ar"yans),and the word "Ar"yan itself(like in our blood), mer "Ar"yan mech eh mer "Hay"rer Hygagan Lernashkharee(Armenian Highlands) So basicaly the other Aryans, like Persians, Indians, and Kurds, were the same people, but some of them migrated to India and Persia, and formed there own nations. So this is why we have similar words, cause we were the same peoples, the Aryans or Ariyans. | |||
Here are some good links: | |||
http://www.selfdiscoveryportal.com/cmSanskrit.htm these first 3 links reveal the many words in Armenian from Sanskrit words | |||
http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/glossary/a.html | |||
http://sanskritdocuments.org/hindi/d...in-itrans.html | |||
http://www.angelfire.com/hi/Azgaser/AR.html from Martiros Kavoukjian's Armenia, Sumer, Subartu, 1982 | |||
http://www.tacentral.com/history.asp 12,000 year history of Armenia | |||
http://www.tacentral.com/erebuni/2ndwave.asp Aryan roots | |||
http://arevordi.blogspot.com 12,000 year history of Armenia | |||
http://www.armenianhighland.com 12,000 year history of Armenia | |||
http://www.saintsarkis.org/Language.htm roots of Armenian language | |||
] of Egypt (1500 BC in his 23rd year records) mentions the people of '''Ermen'''en as paying tribute when he held his court at Nineveh, and says that in their land '''"heaven rests upon its four pillars."''' | |||
http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Def.show/RTD/ISBE/ID/741 | |||
==Powerful points that Armenians native to the Highlands== | |||
* Armenians were submitted to the Persians during the Persian empire in Anatolia | |||
* '''Herodotus was not accurate on geography, and he's not the only source to depend on''' | |||
* Herodotus mention with the Greek "oi" at the end like: '''Armen"oi", Moshk"oi", Chald"oi", are the Armen"i", Mushk"i", Khald"i"''' The Armen"i" was the same Armen"i"(Armens) of the Akkadians inscription 2400 BC, locating them near Lake Van. | |||
* Just as any other nations name has their origins and root names like: '''"Anglos" is the English, "Pars" or Fars is the Persians, "Assur" is the Assyrians and so on. So the "Armens or Armeni" is the Armenians''' | |||
* Phrygians share more similar "European" words with Persians like: mother, brother, etc etc. | |||
* Arya(n) roots/"Ar"mad in Armenian and "Ar"yan(blood) in Armenian, in our blood, in our "Ar"yan mech eh our ancestors from "Ar"yan "Ar"men | |||
* Armenians call themselves "Hai" from "Haik". The latest mention of anywhere near "Hai" is from Haiasa-azzi(1500 BC the latest mention) which is way before 600 BC, and the earliest mention is 4,500 years ago | |||
* In 1935 Reza Shah changed the name of Persia to "Iran", revealing that these new ideas emerged around ww2. So they invented terms like "Indo-Iranian" peoples, Indo-Aryan peoples. We to this day call ourselves "Aryan" or "Aryaee" people. | |||
* Armeni mentioned way earlier than Hayasa, were talking 4,500 years ago Armeni locating them in the southern Armenian Highlands near Lake Van! Not Phrygia! | |||
* There are more Persian words in Phrygians rather than Armenian! and we are all "Aryaee" that means Persians, Indians, Armenians, Kurds! and thats why we share similar words nobody took it first | |||
* '''Artatama''' king of ] had the title '''"king of the Hurri"''', which shows that ] once again is linked with ]-IE. Another source also makes clear the Mitanni was IE-Aryan(Hurrian) kingdom. | |||
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