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	:::Locke, it doesn't matter if you feel that the fair use rationale is obvious. It has to - it '''''HAS TO''''' - be made '''explicit'''. Bots tag such images, and rightly so: the WMF needs to protect itself. If you have a whole class of images all of which have the same obvious-but-unstated rationale, why not make a template? ] 19:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)		:::Locke, it doesn't matter if you feel that the fair use rationale is obvious. It has to - it '''''HAS TO''''' - be made '''explicit'''. Bots tag such images, and rightly so: the WMF needs to protect itself. If you have a whole class of images all of which have the same obvious-but-unstated rationale, why not make a template? ] 19:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
			*In addition to myself and the bot, you've now been informed by four administrators that you are in error in removing the disputed fair use rationale tags from the images. You've repeatedly removed these tags from this and other images. This is not acceptable. The ], unequivocal and supported by ]. I am not interested in threatening you. However, continuing to dispute this policy and attempt to edit war in violation of this policy has but one outcome. You will be blocked if this continues. --] 20:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

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Sofixit template breakage

Thanks for trying to improve the {{sofixit}} template. However, by adding an extra parameter you broke the template for many current inclusions that worked fine previously (including, I might add, my own). I've fixed the template now, but please be more cautious when editing widely used templates, and consider how a template is currently being used (That is, "don't break backwards compatibility" in coder speak). Also you might want to have a look at what changes I made so you can do the same in future. —Pengo 23:20, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

MK template

Just wanted to let you know that Template:Mortal Kombat character is one of the best looking and functioning templates I've seen on Misplaced Pages so far. EVula 15:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole

This arbitration case is closed, and the result has been published at the link above.

Delivered in my capacity as clerk to the Arbitration Committee. I take no part in making these decisions. --Tony Sidaway 10:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Commons:Image:Flag of Washington.svg

The flag of Washington at Commons has been listed for deletion. As requested on your talk page at Commons, I'm telling you here. --Geopgeop 19:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:BDR-101 01.jpg

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Please don't upload Image:BDR-101 01.jpg again. Thanks. Edward 14:03, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Having not been provided a valid reason for why this image shouldn't be on Misplaced Pages, you'll forgive me if I ignore your request. On a side note, you should know that there was no consensus to delete the image. Unless Misplaced Pages stopped working on consensus while I was away, it's deletion was in error. —Locke Cole • t • c 04:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Umm

Hello can you help me with wikipedai please?

Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Locke Cole, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Misplaced Pages:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! It may be a little late to say this...sorry for the delay! Sr13 02:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm actually sort of back from a self-declared quit from Misplaced Pages. But thanks for the welcome. =) —Locke Cole • t • c 03:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey. Welcome back! --Ligulem 01:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. =) —Locke Cole • t • c 18:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back! I was on an extended Wikibreak when you left—was sorry to see that you'd left when I came back. —Doug Bell 09:39, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Doug. =) —Locke Cole • t • c 16:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Blu-ray data layer ref

Well, I tried. I'm not sure what you found lacking about the reference I put in . At the bottom of page 2 it has a (low quality, I admit) diagram of showing the positions of data layers in HD DVD, Blu-ray, etc. The BD data layer resides 0.1mm under the surface, whereas DVD and HD DVD layers are at the center of the 1.2mm thick disc. Am I missing the point somehow? Spiel496 07:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I was looking for a reference for the statement that the reason the BDA opted to avoid using a caddy was because HD DVD didn't require one. —Locke Cole • t • c 14:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Template magic

Of course these are simple examples for what I want to do, but the basic idea is there. There are templates that are called from about 130 pages some of which are lists of information about the other 125 pages. The data passed to the four templates is basically the same (well 3 of the templates use subsets of the data used in the 4th template). It would be nice to have one place to edit all this data. I would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction for documentation (if you know of something that could help solve this problem. Thx in adv --Trödel 22:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

FYI, User talk:Ligulem was able to provide me with a potential solution --Trödel 17:18, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Glad you got it sorted out. =) Sorry for the slow response. —Locke Cole • t • c 18:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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re: Newscast Schedule and Personalities Removal from Station Articles

True this isn't a TV listing or a station website, but duly noted newscast schedules and personalities listings should be listed in television station articles and there are other people who visit this site, who think that showing newscast information and a list of station personalities gives people a sense of what the station is.~~—Locke Cole • t • c 15:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)~~ Was not logged in as Locke Cole; see 156.110.24.142 (talk · contribs)

No, there's a consensus against such information. Please see Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Television Stations for more. Even more importantly, WP:NOT is explicit about this. 1.7.3: Misplaced Pages is not a TV guide: "For example, an article on a radio station generally should not list upcoming events, current promotions, phone numbers, schedules, programme lists, etc., although mention of major events or promotions may be acceptable." Seriously, if someone wants the programming schedule they can go to the provided URL. --Fang Aili 00:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Not sure if someone logged in as you, but see here for what transpired. The comment came from an IP. If my above comments don't apply do you, I apologize. --Fang Aili 00:05, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

No, that was not written by me. It's disturbing that someone would impersonate me though. —Locke Cole • t • c 23:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

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Jim Nobles

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Hi

Hadn't noticed you were back until now. It's good to see you. --CBD 22:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, nice to see the red link go away. —Doug Bell 01:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, good to see you (and others, of course) didn't disappear while I was away. =) —Locke Cole • t • c 04:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Userboxtop

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MajorMUD

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Image:NYC subway simplified map.png

Hi. I left a copyvio note on your Commons user talk page about Image:NYC subway simplified map.png. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 20:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. I left a deletion note on your Commons user talk page about Image:Sea Beach Line 1.gif. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 09:41, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Map image of Pacific, Washington

A question/request -- the article for Pacific, Washington has a map you created that shows the location of Pacific in Pierce County, Washington. But most of Pacific, including city hall, police, fire department, the city park, the school, the library, and all its residential zoning, is within King County.

Since you created the existing map image, I figured I'd ask you whether you'd consider creating a map that shows Pacific's location within King County, or, if it's doable, creating a map that includes both counties' details, with Pacific straddling the county line. If a county-straddling map wouldn't be a hassle to create, Auburn, Washington could use one, too. Jmputnam 16:20, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

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Help with polltop/bottom template

Hi Locke Cole: Could you take a sec and check out this request/inquiry from another user? I was unable to help her, and as the originator of the template, I thought you might be able to. Please and thanks! Anchoress 23:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks!BrainyBabe 05:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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HD DVD 33GB "claim"

Counter to your assertions the source I cited actually does cite many references itself, take a look: http://www.emedialive.com/articles/readarticle.aspx?articleid=11639 I would say its the best technical FAQ out there for both HD DVD and Blu-ray. --Ray andrew 03:07, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I've responded at Talk:HD DVD, but suffice it to say, I don't agree with these changes in light of the fact that generally every other source out there (including major proponents of this disc format) all refer to the capacities as 15/30 GB. —Locke Cole • t • c 03:42, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Removal of release count from BD page

It was removed because it had not been updated in 20 days (US numbers at least) take a closer look at the diff, re-add it if you feel like keeping it up to date, I don't see the point in having two conflicting totals that are in different states of update though (compare with the count on the comparison page). --Ray andrew 02:17, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

True it would likely be more productive to update them but I thought it would be more helpful long term (to me at least) of some other people got the message that they need to be updated or it needs to go. Sorry to cause a scene, but I hate people that put time sensitive information in the introduction of an article and then don't keep up with updating it, it makes Misplaced Pages look bad. --Ray andrew 02:44, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:DTS-HD-MA.svg

Image:DTS-HD-MA.svg

Our policy on the use of fair use images is clear. Per Misplaced Pages:Non-free content criteria item #10(c), a fair use rationale must be provided for each use of a copyrighted, fair use image. Five times over the last 10 days you have removed the disputed fair use rationale tag from this image without providing even a rudimentary fair use rationale. For guidance on how to write an appropriate fair use rationale, see Misplaced Pages:Non-free use rationale guideline. If, despite this advice and information, you insist on removing the disputed fair use rationale tag without providing a rationale for the sixth time, it will be treated as willful, blatant vandalism and you may be blocked from editing. Good day, --Durin 18:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I've been here long enough to know that policies on Misplaced Pages change fairly frequently. I also don't take kindly to threats. I've started a discussion on this at User talk:BetacommandBot (actually started it before you re-tagged the image and posted a talk message here; which leads me to believe you saw that message and decided to try and threaten me instead of talk to me; though I'm trying really hard here to WP:AGF). Please contribute there, as I think there's a better solution to just CSD'ing images despite the obviousness of their fair use rationale. —Locke Cole • t • c 19:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it's obvious what the fair use rationale would be - perhaps you could write one and include it in the template - that might be the easiest way to solve this dispute? -- Tawker 19:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Locke, it doesn't matter if you feel that the fair use rationale is obvious. It has to - it HAS TO - be made explicit. Bots tag such images, and rightly so: the WMF needs to protect itself. If you have a whole class of images all of which have the same obvious-but-unstated rationale, why not make a template? DS 19:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

In addition to myself and the bot, you've now been informed by four administrators that you are in error in removing the disputed fair use rationale tags from the images. You've repeatedly removed these tags from this and other images. This is not acceptable. The policy is clear, unequivocal and supported by Foundation resolution. I am not interested in threatening you. However, continuing to dispute this policy and attempt to edit war in violation of this policy has but one outcome. You will be blocked if this continues. --Durin 20:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)