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Elizabeth Bishop

Can you include on the next LGBT newsletter, Elizabeth Bishop as a collaboration project ?

Elizabeth Bishop was the greatest lesbian poet of the twentieth century.

She deserves to have an FA status article in her honour.

Thanks,

Tovojolo 09:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

newsletter ideas

Hi, I suggest posting a draft to talk and also adding more positivity encouraging readers to check out relevant articles like our recent bizarre vandal bout resulting in Sister Roma article actually being attacked but then a handful of editors fully referencing it. Also Waylon Smithers and Queer Eye have both gotten makeover and gone to GA status., etc. Benjiboi 23:31, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Test Pattern Night Lights

Hello from a fellow Kucinich supporter. I'll be happy to fill you in about the Indian Head test card night light - I still have mine and I can take pictures if you'd like to see it. The night light with the Indian Head test card design was sold as one of a set of three test pattern night lights by the Archie McPhee company in Seattle. It was item #10480. I spoke with Mikki at Archie McPhee's Customer Service (425-349-3009) this morning, and she verified that these were created by the company -- not obtained from an outside source -- and sold from January 11, 1999 to June 17, 2005. They've been discontinued for now but with McPhee who knows, they might decide to make them again if they get enough requests. I did find a number of other items related to the Indian Head test card on ebay, including a quilt design based on it (item 8102081440). --Bluejay Young 17:08, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

BDSM

Hi Jeff, I just wanted to let you know, that I move the article today. Do you think it to be ready to be moved on the quality scale? Is a peer review still necessary? Kind Regards. --Nemissimo (talk) 10:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I would definitely submit it for Peer review, and would also take it to the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject League of Copyeditors. They're really good at their work. And as been pointed out by more thna one editor, it needs a lot more refs. Did the original article have useful refs you could use in the new version? Jeffpw (talk) 22:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Well I'm kind of short on English refs and don't believe Germans will do alone. Do you think I can post a request on Misplaced Pages:WikiProject League of Copyeditors already? I'm kind of worrying, that the article might degrade if I wait to long. Watching the development of the old :en and the the original :de version I've seen over and over again that the topic is a great temptation for dozens and dozens of IPs trying to add links and original research *shrug Guess this is not my day. Regards.--Nemissimo (talk) 23:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I and several other editors are watching it now, and will revert as needed, so don't worry about that. The German refs are OK, if you were concerned about the language. I didn't look at the English article, but will go into the history tomorrow and see if any might be helpful. I just can't tonight--I worked a 16 hour shift and am practically braindead. just off to smoke one last cigarette and then off to dreamland. Jeffpw (talk) 23:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Very simular with me today. Goede Nacht.--Nemissimo (talk) 00:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh David! That's a chocolate beaver! My favorite kind. It was his brother that PETA desecrated. Fortunately I still have his blonde sister as a ski jacket. Jeffpw (talk) 00:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Just look at that wet messy thing! You'd never know from his picture how fabulous he looked draped around my shoulders. Jeffpw (talk) 00:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

And there's nothing like a tongue for cleaning a beaver! Jeffpw (talk) 00:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Did you really just say that? And how would you know?!? ;) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 23:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

ugh! That is so gross, Jeff. I don't know if I like you anymore. ;) - Jeeny 01:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Good lord, Jeeny, I don't know what you could possibly be thinking, but I am sure it wasn't very nice. A little WP:AGF, please. Anybody who has seen my contributions knows I am probably the most well meaning of Wikipedians. I advise you to get your mind out of the gutter and perhaps spend a week editing the Pollyanna article in order to build some moral character! Jeffpw (talk) 11:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

LMAO! OK. I think you need to get your mind out of the gutter. :p Because killing cute and innocent animals to wear as clothing is yucky. :( - Jeeny 14:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I didn't kill them, Jeeny. Nobody did. According to my furrier, they were distraught and jumped into the traps. I hear being covered in fur can be a catalyst for crippling depression. Keep an eye on your pets for any worrisome signs. Jeffpw (talk) 15:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Beaver attack

Jeff, a beaver overtook my keyboard and attacked your User page. I noticed it right away and reverted him, but you should really be careful - those beavers are getting more dangerous and you are obviously on their hit list. --David Shankbone 01:53, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

My God, David! Isn't the Al Qaeda bad enough!?! Do I have to worry about beaver terrorists now, as well???!! What is the world coming to? What did I ever do to deserve this beaver madness????? I must be grateful for tender mercies, however, so I thank God I have good friends like you to protect me from these vengeful rodents (and don't tell me they're not rodents--I saw the photographic evidence). Jeffpw (talk) 09:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why, but this made me laugh. A lot! Maybe it's because I was reading this page from the bottom up, so went from Knives to BDSM to Beaver...  :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I've heard some paper goods are made from suicidal trees which would follow with the furrier's distraught beaver theory. Very enlightening no matter how you fashion your wardrobe options. Benjiboi 23:35, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Right on cue...

I've delivered the welcome letter - am I that predictable!?!? :)

BTW, just a little note that we're coming up on Newsletter time. We have a new FA: But I'm a Cheerleader, nom & ed by Belovedfreak. And I might hope the Sa-Sc list will pass by then. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

No dear, you're not predictable, you're reliable:-D. I am starting on the new newsletter. What do you think of Queer snowflakes?????????????????? Jeffpw (talk) 15:26, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

<blush>

Conceptually Queer snowflakes are fine. But I wouldn't want one marrying my daughter. :)

Do you think the Gay Snowboarders would mind me snagging the snowflake on the bottom right and pretty-fying it? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

PURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRFect! I don't think the snowboarders (and what handsome, athletic young men they are, too) would mind at all if we tossed a rainbow on their snowflake. Jeffpw (talk) 15:39, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Jeeny

I would appreciate it if you could try to make her understand that assuming good faith is not an option, it's mandatory. Hayden/Phral is an exception as he is a banned user, but that exception does not extend so far as to allow personal attacks against him. There is a simple solution with banned users: revert (with a civil edit summary, such as simply "reverting banned user"), block/request block at ANI or AIV, and ignore. Jeeny may not likely, but that does not give her license to fail to assume good faith of me, or of any other user on this project. I'm not going to be responding on her talk page (barring any future warnings), because I understand that it provokes her, and you're doing a good job of helping mediate that. ⇒SWATJester 20:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem, Swatjester. I sort of did try to make that clear earlier. Perhaps I was too subtle:-s Jeffpw (talk) 20:09, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Is Jeeny still blocked for 2 weekz. Seth71 (talk) 20:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

yes, she is. She needs to show some willingness to change, and agree to mentorship before she can be unblocked. Jeffpw (talk) 20:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

She never used to be like this. She is starting to speak her mind and in her case that ain't a good thing. This is about her 3rd time this month that she's been blocked. I just sit here shocked at what she's saying. She's scolded me for calling people idiots and now she's calling people fuckheads. I just wonder wants wrong with her. Seth71 (talk) 20:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Seth, I'm just having a few "issues" lately. I'll be better, with help. - Oh no, it's Jeeny 12:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Civility

Jeff, maybe you didn't notice the previous messages on my talk page where I was helped to figure this out. Then took back my message, which you acknowledged. To be scolded for a mistake, when I realized the problem and adjusted my message, all after the fact doesn't help. Anyway, I'm going to archive my talk page right now. It's a bit busy. Thanks. :) - Oh no, it's Jeeny 11:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Honey, I'm not scolding you. I'm concerned. Yes, I had read the entire thread about this, but still felt I should comment that even if an admin had just blindly protected your page, WP:AGF would be a better way to approach the issue. Something like, "I see my page is protected. I didn't request it and would like to edit it. Do you think we can change the protection level?" would still get you the results you wanted. I know I may be coming across as a Wikipedian zombie; I just don't want you to have any trouble again, and hoped that a little coaching would show you how you can better approach issues. Jeffpw (talk) 11:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I know now, thank you Jeff. :) That was a good response, one I should have made, and will file in my pee brain for the future. Thanks again. I just awoke, early, with a coughing fit? So, I'm going back to bed now. I think you should change your hours so you're on the same time as I am. lol. - Oh no, it's Jeeny 11:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I just sent you a long, incoherent email. Going to go to bed now ... again. - Oh no, it's Jeeny 12:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Another Beaver attack

Jeff - I'm worried. Really, are you okay? Are you safe? You live near a good deal of water, and those beavers are getting very very restless!!! I don't want anything to happen to you. --David Shankbone 18:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

David, when I saw who the message was from, I thought it was perhaps a nice message from Ward and June, wanting to discuss their son. Never did I think it was a terror attack! Oh my god! What did I ever do to deserve this?!? I wish I had gone for the otter parka instead of that beaver jacket now! Save me, David, please, God, save me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't support that jacket, but I also don't support acts of beaver terrorism. It's really become a problem. Somebody should alert the Bush administration. --David ] 18:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

You're a big strong man, David--you do something! Take out a beaver village right now. Give me a beaver Mi Lai. Somebody's gotta pay!

A "beaver Mi Lai" - Bah ha ha ha. --David Shankbone 18:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

If you did that little favor for me, David,I'd have that lovely beaver bed spread I've always wanted, and just in time for Christmas. Think about it. In the mean time, I am installing steel jawed beaver traps on this talk page to catch those terrorist beavers the next time they try to Pearl Harbor me! Jeffpw 18:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

See, Icairns *is* the butch one. He totally atom-bombed them beavers! You should send him some wiki-love for sating your blood thirst! --David Shankbone 19:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

It's Friday evening

Well, where I am, anyway. The world is full of very nice children, isn't it? Of course, writing an encyclopedia isn't a job that all children are ready to take on. But here it is, Friday evening. Time to pour a glass of wine, pick up a good book, and enjoy ourselves. You've made a perfectly reasonable choice, in my opinion, and you tried harder and longer than I probably would have. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

wikipedia verifiability: task 1

-It doesnt matter if something is true, you can only put it on wikipedia if its verifiable
-All quotes or information likely to be challenged should be referenced
-If it is not referenced, it is likely to be removed
-Even if many editors have heard of it, it must still be removed unless a reliable reference is found
-The reliable sources should back up the points being made
-The more exeptional the points, the more exeptional the sources should be, in order to prove it
-So something very surprising that is not well known will need to have be backed up by an exeptional source
-Reliable sources can be: journals, books, magazines, newspapers
-If two sources disagree, both views should be included in the text
-Self published books, personal websites, and blogs, are unnaceptable, as anyone can write them
-English references, as this is English wikipedia, are preferable to foreign ones

task 2 starting soon... Iamandrewrice 11:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

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why do you moan at me for everything i do?!

either your just in a bad mood in real life and are taking it out on me big time... or i misjudged you initially... my intentions were good... and regardless of whether the user understands the policies, and that she is older, doesnt mean that I have no right to go say anything to anyone. My comment was not an attack! just a friendly passing... Iamandrewrice 15:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)