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	:Done. However, please contact me on my talk page on WoWWiki instead of here the next time. :) ~ <span style="white-space:nowrap; color:#FF0000;font-weight:bold;">\| <small>]</small> \| <small><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></small> \|</span> 17:39, 6 December 2007 (UTC)		:Done. However, please contact me on my talk page on WoWWiki instead of here the next time. :) ~ <span style="white-space:nowrap; color:#FF0000;font-weight:bold;">\| <small>]</small> \| <small><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></small> \|</span> 17:39, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

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			Please don't start this edit war again. Just like ] the first lay out was not comma separated. The 156 user (156.34.214.123) changed it, and has now wisely stopped changing genre delimters. <font color="darkolivegreen">'''Kameejl'''</font> <sup>(])</sup> 19:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Your Signature

No bother at all ;) Click on "my preferences" at the top, and the first link on the left is "User Profile"; under your name is a box for the signature. If you use coding like I do (you'll see the coding when you edit this page), check the box that says "Raw signature". More details are available at WP:SIG. Happy editing! :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 20:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I find myself shocked that dispite there being a garishly large warning against changing the genre listing for disturbed without additional references, that some people continue to do so! Thank you for catching the changes :) LinaMishima 15:35, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

my appologies

Hello I appologize for changing the genre of disturbed's catagorization. I should have obeyed the warning not to. I just dislike the catagorization of nu-metal, i think alternative metal is a much better term to use.

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Why did you delete it? - - 'twsx'talk'cont' 07:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I deleted it because it had been in CAT:NS for 7 days, meaning that it had no source information. This is done routinely in accordance with speedy criterion I4. I will gladly restore it for you if you provide the source info. DVD+ R/W 15:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you know...

hi, i just wanted to let you know that i replied on my talk page, i don't have much time so if you'd like to check it out...

thanks in advance

Zouavman Le Zouave 20:19, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, are you planning on answering the messages on my talk page? I left you my email like this its easier for both of us.

--Zouavman Le Zouave 07:38, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey just wanted to say thanks for the props you gave me on my talk page. It was encouraging. Please contact me for any other disputes you need another prospective on, especially metal ones. I love helping out. - AidanPryde 21:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Disturbed reference

Hey, Yeah I will try to dig in the WWW in order to find some stuff that might give an overview of all the sources I have given. It might take a while though, but it will solve a lot of the problems that might arise. Thanks for suggesting this idea. --Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • See my edits!)} 07:12, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be any order to the listings, just fans wanting "nu metal" put low. And I found this on the talk page: "The genre line is now "Hard Rock, Nu Metal, Alternative Metal"", in which the order does not even match. Call it vandalism, but you're out on a limb if you seriously think it is "generally" accepted that they now play hard rock/metal. I totally agree with Zouavman, and I think that needs serious rewording. One or two sources calling them heavy metal makes no real difference, go ask any 80s metal fans what they think of this band. A simple search on the MA even provides us with the information "Not to be confused with the mallcore band" on a thrash metal band of the same name's page (mallcore being synonymous with nu metal). My point is, that sentence is completely wrong, and just sounds like some Disturbed fan trying to get the band credibility. It wasn't vandalism, it was getting rid of false information, and that's the bottom line. --Ryouga 20:28, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

"Fact is, nu metal is a sub-genre of metal music." Haha, no, it isn't. That's just what Misplaced Pages and the fans say. The truth is, it is an amalgamation of various genres, the "metal" in the name really doesn't hold much, other than distorted guitars. You might dislike the Encyclopaedia Metallum, but they have a much better grasp on metal than what you may think. If we are in agreement that they really aren't "heavy metal," then changing that statement shouldn't be such a problem. It is really put as a statement, which it shouldn't be. I'm not really trying to make a point here: if I wanted to, I'd've removed heavy metal and any mention of it from the page, but that would be futile and unjustified. I doubt you see my point, but hopefully you understand that the one sentence in the opening paragraph is misleading. --Ryouga 21:13, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Bro, I'm not here to have the entire page removed, I'm just not seeing a shed of light on that sentence, as per the sources. It seems like it was crafted to advertise new Disturbed as being "metal," which we both do not agree with either, whether sourced or not. Mentioning those genres is fine, but I guess for now I'll bring it up on talk and see what different sentences we can come up with. --Ryouga 21:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Idalou Independent School District

I removed the {{prod}} on Idalou Independent School District and added {{Texas-school-stub}}, which seems more appropriate than proposing the article's deletion. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 01:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

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Please do not restore prod tags to articles after they have been removed. If you look at Misplaced Pages:Proposed deletion especially the section called Conflicts you will see that the tag should not be restored no matter what. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 14:34, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

David Draiman

Hello. You have reverted what you thought to be vandalism on the David Draiman article. However, it is not vandalism. See the talk page for more information (where my source is given).

Goodtones

The interview is sufficient proof. I have the magazine on my desk right beside me and Draiman clearly points out that he is homosexual. The article doesn't belong to you. Metal Edge magazine wouldn't make an insult on Draiman since they are very much interested in Alternative Metal bands like Disturbed, System Of A Down, Slipknot... Why shouldn't this part be added into the article? It's not used as an insult, and it's definitely not attacking Draiman's image (except if you look at this from a homophobic point of view). I am putting back the statement.

Goodtones

I posted the quote on the talk page. If all unsourced content was to be removed from the article, then the article should be blank. If you cannot accept the fact that Draiman is gay, then maybe you are taking this too personally. I will try to look for a source, but until then, I am putting back the statement for there is no reason to take it off the article. Goodtones 09:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I am not trying to cause any conflict. You are telling me that I am using this as a derogative term, however I am myself gay and fan of Disturbed. There is no logical reason for me to attack Draiman's image. I should also remind you to assume good faith. I gave a source on the talk page that clearly establishes Draiman's homosexuality. I think it is a very important fact about Draiman and that ommiting it would be a mistake (for people generally tend to consider heterosexuality as normal). The entire article has no references, so why erase only this particular sentence? I think you are taking this personally (I have seen that you are also a Disturbed fan) and that you do not accept the fact that Draiman is gay. Could this end before it goes to further authorities? Goodtones 16:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

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Just letting you know that you failed your duty as a wikipedia administrator today. Not only did you not care to acquire an overview of the debate, which would have lead to no consensus, you also failed to really read it. None of the keep votes gave any weightily base. WP:PORNBIO, which still is the official guideline for pornstar biographies is failed at one hundert percent, regardless, you let yourself be overwhelmed by the massive amount of keep votes by 15 year old porn lovers, who, whatever one may think of those people, do not put the common good of an important encyclopaedia over their own affection for these surreal women. Although I have always had a high opinion of almost all wikipedia administrators and I will keep doing so, you, sir, have shown great incompetence in dealing with the matter, and you are a shame to your kind. I don't think I care enough for the subject to pursue it any further, but even though I know you won't care for my opinion towards you and you will dismiss it right away, I needed to tell you this. Regards, ~ | twsx | _cont | 14:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow. What a horrible, incivil comment to find on my talk page. I can assure you I read the AfD thoroughly, and if you have a problem with it, don't come running to me to whine about it. Take it to WP:DRV like any other user would. How dare you tell me I have "failed", and shown "great incompetence"? Let me point you to WP:NPA, WP:CIVIL and WP:IDON'TLIKEIT. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 14:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The quote "don't come running to me to whine about it" is just as u(i)ncivil. Nevertheless, i'm sorry, I was just a little late with calming down.
I dare calling you those things because they are true. I was actually surprised that anyone could not only not decide for delete, but also skip the no consensus level. The circumstances are absolutely obvious and clear. Article fails the given requirements without an exception, case closed. But probably you can tell me what made you decide against the policy, and maybe i can even understand it? ~ | twsx | _cont | 15:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I guess apologies for the personal attack are in order. Sorry. Everything else stands. ~ | twsx | _cont | 14:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I can't really see what the problem is. Even if it was no consensus it would still have been kept. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 15:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I am aware of that. I only pointed out that you two-way failed handling the decision, despite the fact that it doesn't make any difference. ~ | twsx | _cont | 15:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't fail. I may have written the wrong result (which I don't believe I did), but I didn't fail. Please stop saying I did because I didn't. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 15:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Then explain, 4 paragraphs above. ~ | twsx | _cont | 15:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:DRV is the best place to go. I already said, I looked at every comment and thought the keeps were stronger. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 15:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I have already addressed my intentions regarding further persuasion. Are you unable to justify your decision, or why can you not answer my question? ~ | twsx | _cont | 16:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I went with the consensus, which was keep if you discounted the "I don't like it" votes. I didn't go against policy. Please take it to WP:DRV like I asked; I have no wish to continue discussing this, I have no preference of whether the article stays or not, and I'd rather other users discussed it if you are unhappy with the result. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 16:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Crimson Static

You got all angry or whatever about me creating a page for this band, yet you allow Green Day, and many other, even small band have pages? So why can't this one? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SidxViscious (talk • contribs) 02:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

Defined Parememters? >_>;' I know the band is not nearly as popular as Green Day. But it hopefully will be. It just needs a chance >_<; —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SidxViscious (talk • contribs) 02:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

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List of Chieftains of the Jurchens

Grüezi wohl ! I was starting to write that article and you quickly conclude that it was an Unneeded listcruft one, i also add a relevant reference as well, many Chinese references also exist. Do not anticipate so quickly. Wiedersehen ! Whlee 13:41, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

You may want to have more content ready before you start an artile next time OR tag the article as under construction. I think the speedy was perfectly justified at the moment of tagging. In any case, no harm done.
PS: You should read Plenk. ~ | twsx | _cont | 16:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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User:Twsx/Log

Hi, I just removed a personal attack on myself from the said page. Please don't make unnecessary attacks on me, it doesn't help anything. Thank you. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 22:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't really care for your opinion, i guess thats what we have in common. Allthough you failed greatly on that AFD, i guess you generally are aware of wikipedia policies, and therefor i'll just assume that the statement on the logpage does consitute as breach of policy and you editing it is perfectly acceptable. Changed it, describing the decision incompetent, instead of the person. ~ | twsx | _cont | 00:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

We've been through this, I did not fail greatly. Just because you wanted the article to go does not mean it necessarily should. Please stop making ad hominem attacks and let the matter drop. You can always nominate it again. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 07:46, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

That's a good one! However, the person who keeps trying to push the matter is you. I have no intention of assaulting you again (about which i, again, am truely sorry), nor to take it to DRV, probably not even to re-nominate it, i'm just logging stuff for future reference... ~ | twsx | _cont | 12:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind you logging it, what I do mind is you saying it was against policy which it wasn't. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 13:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you mind, but as i removed every kind of personal attack, i think this is none of your concern. ~ | twsx | _cont | 14:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

"...decision to keep against policy was made by User:Majorly..." That staement is incorrect. Please change/remove it. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 14:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

You still haven't removed it. Please do so, or I will. Thanks. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 15:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Read before speedying

Re your listing of TMB Optical. I suggest that you actually read the CSD that you invoke before applying it. That page contains no inappropriate content whatsoever. See talk page as well. Kosebamse 13:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion registered. No comment. ~ | twsx | _cont | 13:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Kosebamse. The lip loop is the second BDSM related article of mine that a speedy deletion template was placed on, the first was by William Henry Harrison. Both was within a minute of their creation. It is clear that a bunch of people are running rampant placing some objection on every new article they find 'inappropriate' under the false assumption that it makes things easier to manage, your excuse is "no real relevance or notability". Wtf? Just read the damn thing before nominating it for speedy deletion. It's very relevant to a specific category and you're only making things worse for administrators by nominating articles you didn't even read for speedy deletion. Thanks. PS: before you complain about me tarnishing your talk page with fetish articles maybe this would make you think twice next time before clicking edit and save. -Biophase 23:41, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Yo, i ned sum help here

eh man, what up? i need to pimp my user´s page with sum userboxes, how the hell can i put them on my user´s page??? i need to pimp it, NOW!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raidentheninja (talk • contribs)

Hello. You can find a big collection of userboxes for all kinds of categories at WP:UBX. Apart from that i need to seriously suggest that you watch your grammar a little bit when writing comments (no offense from my part, honestly, but you WILL offend other people writing like that). Also, remember to sign your posts! ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Eugene Grebenik

Hello, Twsx.

I noticed that you had placed "importance" and "unreferenced" tags on this article.

I'm curious about your reasoning. The article, as it stood when you tagged it, made several claims of notability and was well referenced. Or am I missing something? Thanks! DavidCBryant 17:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

That's funny, i can only find one, and it's very vague. ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll be more specific. The article says that Mr. Grebenik was

"a central figure in the development of demography in Britain"
"the first director of the British Civil Service College"
"the Farr medal and prize"
"The Trend and Pattern of Fertility in Great Britain (1954), ... a landmark in cohort analysis"
"secretary-general of the International Union for the Scientific Study of Population from 1963 to 1973"

So I count five notable achievements in the bio. You could only see one? DavidCBryant 19:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Those are not references, those are unreferenced weightily statements. The tags should be reinstated, as there are zero reliable sources to base the claims. However, the article is not of really big notability, so i'll leave it. ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

about my gangsta style

thatnks, for the advice, and it´s not that i don´t know to write correctly, it´s just that i like to look like a gangsta, you know, i like that style, but anyway, you are right about it. And i´ll try to pimp my user´s page, but i guess i´ll need some help anyway, because i´m new on this. and about signing my coments, i just didn´t sing my last comment because i wanted to know if you remembered me Anyway, take care man, see ya. raidentheninja check my youtube´s videos!!!!!!!!!!! 22:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Your Signature

Thanks

my appologies

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Why did you delete it? - - 'twsx'talk'cont' 07:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you know...

hi, i just wanted to let you know that i replied on my talk page, i don't have much time so if you'd like to check it out...

thanks in advance

Zouavman Le Zouave 20:19, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, are you planning on answering the messages on my talk page? I left you my email like this its easier for both of us.

--Zouavman Le Zouave 07:38, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Re:Disturbed reference

Idalou Independent School District

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No problem. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

David Draiman

Hello. You have reverted what you thought to be vandalism on the David Draiman article. However, it is not vandalism. See the talk page for more information (where my source is given).

Goodtones

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gianna Michaels (2nd nomination)‎

I guess apologies for the personal attack are in order. Sorry. Everything else stands. ~ | twsx | _cont | 14:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I can't really see what the problem is. Even if it was no consensus it would still have been kept. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 15:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I am aware of that. I only pointed out that you two-way failed handling the decision, despite the fact that it doesn't make any difference. ~ | twsx | _cont | 15:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't fail. I may have written the wrong result (which I don't believe I did), but I didn't fail. Please stop saying I did because I didn't. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 15:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Then explain, 4 paragraphs above. ~ | twsx | _cont | 15:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:DRV is the best place to go. I already said, I looked at every comment and thought the keeps were stronger. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 15:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I have already addressed my intentions regarding further persuasion. Are you unable to justify your decision, or why can you not answer my question? ~ | twsx | _cont | 16:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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User:Twsx/Log

Hi, I just removed a personal attack on myself from the said page. Please don't make unnecessary attacks on me, it doesn't help anything. Thank you. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 22:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind you logging it, what I do mind is you saying it was against policy which it wasn't. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 13:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you mind, but as i removed every kind of personal attack, i think this is none of your concern. ~ | twsx | _cont | 14:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

"...decision to keep against policy was made by User:Majorly..." That staement is incorrect. Please change/remove it. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 14:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

You still haven't removed it. Please do so, or I will. Thanks. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 15:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Read before speedying

Suggestion registered. No comment. ~ | twsx | _cont | 13:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Yo, i ned sum help here

Eugene Grebenik

Hello, Twsx.

I noticed that you had placed "importance" and "unreferenced" tags on this article.

That's funny, i can only find one, and it's very vague. ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll be more specific. The article says that Mr. Grebenik was

"a central figure in the development of demography in Britain"
"the first director of the British Civil Service College"
"the Farr medal and prize"
"The Trend and Pattern of Fertility in Great Britain (1954), ... a landmark in cohort analysis"
"secretary-general of the International Union for the Scientific Study of Population from 1963 to 1973"

So I count five notable achievements in the bio. You could only see one? DavidCBryant 19:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

about my gangsta style

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Disturbed edits

Evening. I don't particularly feel like getting into an edit war, I thought I'd come and query your actions here. I'm not sure why you're removing the charts table in the Disturbed article, as it seems perfectly worthy of inclusion. You stated that you're reverting it "as discussed", yet I can't find any mention of it on the talk page or in the talk page archives. If you could kindly reply back here or on my talk page, it'd be most appreciated. Cheers, -Panser Born- (talk) 23:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

- In a nutshell, but i think it provides all the reasoning needed. This is hard to source, and doing so would be nonsense anyway. The info is as irrelevant as it is vague, looking at the heavy changes the positions underwent long time after they actually were in the charts. Probably you also should look up again some of the policies around here. ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see - I'm not sure how I managed to miss that conversation! In that case, when I've got a bit of spare time (probably tomorrow), I'll get it all cited - I already know of a source for it. By the way, what policies are you referring to in your last sentence? As far as I'm aware, there aren't any forbidding the inclusion of chart tables, as they exist in many articles on bands. -Panser Born- (talk) 23:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

You should bring this up on the existing discussion first. Sourcing the single chart positions to keep them is totally over the top. -> WP:AGF ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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John Moyer

I just moved the content created by user:Comtheo to the John Moyer (comedian) page, and I was going to move the (original) content at John Moyer to John Moyer (bassist), and then change John Moyer to a disambig page. I agree with you about the notability/style issue with the comedian's stuff. Flyguy649 _contribs 14:32, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I just saw what you wrote about the user's creation of the article under the other name. I still suggest moving John Moyer to John Moyer (bassist), and leaving John Moyer as a redirect for now. BTW I am not an admin. I warned Comtheo about the vandalism and have reported to WP:AIV. Flyguy649 _contribs 14:50, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I thought that the guy might pay attention to a neutral editor. Nope. He used 3 or 4 socks to try to push the content! Cheers, Flyguy649 _contribs 17:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

John Moyer

Lighten up... There are several extensive articles on Misplaced Pages that reference John Moyer. The Singles Ward, The R.M. and Mobsters and Mormons. He is an individual responsible for the creation of the comedy genre in the LDS Cinema movement and is extremely noteable as a filmaker in that realm. Previously all references to John Moyer on those pages were attributed to the wrong John Moyer. Now there is a means by which the correct John Moyer (stand up comedian) can be referenced and linked to on those pages and you are still freaking out about it. There are more than two noteable John Moyers here. So everybody needs to just get along and accept that. This is a reasonable solution. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.199.4.149 (talk) 16:26, 16 May 2007 (UTC).

Repeat yourself as often as you want. He seems totally unworthy of an article to me, and as far as the last ~12 times go, other wikipedians agree. PS: You should read up on how to use wikipedia talk pages and how to sign comments. ~ | twsx | _cont | 16:56, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

So are the three movies that he's been involved with as well as helping to pioneer a genre among a religious group vis-a-vis LDS Cinema unworthy of articles too? Is so, then you should ask for those to be deleted as well. Bu it's OK to have those extensive articles, just not one on an indivdual involved in creating those films? comedytheorem 17:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

As of now, for my part, i "evaluate" (for the range of my opinion and capabilities that is) the notability of this one article. Other articles = another topic. The fact that you vandalized an article two dozen times and created 4 other articles around a total of another dozen times can, i think, only be interpeted as you having a special devotion to that guy, and personal admiration does not belong to an objective job such as editing on wikipedia. You need to let go. ~ | twsx | _cont | 17:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The same can be said of you over your devotion to the band Disturbed and your constant tempter tantrums and your version of your own forms of vandalism. All I am doing is rightfully crediting an indivdual who has other articles written about his accomplishments. And you didn't answer my question, you only started in with ad hominem attacks. If you are so committed to objective editing on wikipedia, then why are you so not willing to have the correct information listed about the individual responsible for these films in these articles: The Singles Ward, The R.M. and Mobsters and Mormons. Or do you only want information provided that you like? I've offered a reasonable solution to this problem, yet you are the one who insists on not letting it go. comedytheorem 17:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Ad hominem, so strong words, while i didn't attack you at all.. Offered a solution? You broke several wikipedia guidelines, vandalized a long existing article multiple times, and do not obey the public consensus. I have had differences with other users or even administrators, but if 10 different people told me i was wrong, i have accepted it. You should do that too. (Can't answer on your TP as your account has already been blocked apparently). ~ | twsx | _cont | 20:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

You still never answered the question. If you are so concerned about objective editing on Misplaced Pages then why is OK to have three articles about three movies that John Moyer is responsible for writing, and or producing, and directing? Articles that many people have contributed to, why is NOT OK to have a page about the individual that is responsible for those movies? I don't see you demanding those articles be removed because they are of no consequence and are not noteable. If you reason that the articles about The Singles Ward, The R.M. and Mobsters and Mormons then there should be an article about their creator. Now please answer the question posed. ComedytheoremJR 22:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Know i will not answer to your messages anymore. Don't take it personal, but i find no sense, but redundancy in trying to talk to you. ~ | twsx | _cont | 22:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Thought you would want to know that the Checkuser-IP Check has been completed, and the IP has been blocked. Cheers! Flyguy649 _contribs 03:22, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Maurice Chavez

Just to let you know, I've removed the prod template you placed on this page. The edit before yours in the article history was an editor removing a previous prod template. If the prod template is removed it shouldn't be replaced. It's worth checking the history before you place a prod tag and always mention in your edit summary that you have prodded the article and why. If you think this article should still be deleted you should list it at WP:AFD. Cheers, Paxse 19:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Thought i did. Thanks for the heads-up, taking article to AFD. ~ | twsx | _cont | 20:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Bellotti v Baird

You tagged this article with a speedy delete template literally seconds after I created it. I think the subject is notable, and I would appreciate time to expand the article before it is unilaterally executed. Verkhovensky 23:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Understood. You might however consider using the preview function the next time, and not start the article until it is in a state that does not get the attention of NP patrolers. If that is uncomfortable for you, a personal sandbox in your User namespace is a great tool. Sorry for the inconvenience. ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Almost forgot to remove speedy, done now. Make sure you have the article up and running asap, as of now, its neither tagged nor a stub. ~ | twsx | _cont | 00:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Ice March

Hi there. This page is now under creation. I'm still a relative novice in these matters, and was intending to seek advice at the conclusion; but please feel free to make any alterations or amendments that you may feel are necessary while the process is underway. Regards Clio the Muse 00:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello again, Twsx. This page is now complete and I have taken the liberty of removing your tags. I hope that is OK? Please feel free to add anything else you wish. I'm also asking some others for the benefit of their editorial advice. Clio the Muse 02:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Lip loop

Hi. I've removed your speedy tag from Lip loop. In the future when you tag things, please make sure they are actually covered under one of the criteria for speedy deletion. It makes it much easier for me to burn through them and keep the backlogs small. Also, as that page says, " some Wikipedians create articles in multiple saves, so try to avoid deleting a page too soon after its initial creation." Please give editors a little more room. Thanks, William Pietri 03:50, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Say, I just had to remove your speedy tag from LACORS, too. In addition to giving people more time, I'd suggest you also try to stay involved in the articles you tag so that you can help editors resolve the problems you're pointing out. Also, please put in an edit summary, so that people looking at watchlists and page histories can tell what you've done. Thanks, William Pietri 04:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Your NPWatcher Application

Dear Twsx,

Thank you for applying for NPWatcher! Unfortunately, your application has been declined because of the lack of understanding of policy shown in the above thread. NPW is a powerful tool, so we need to be sure that it will be used only in line with policy.

Martinp23 16:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Boo

Quite a rise you took on since i last came by. Ever thought about applying for adminship? :) ~ | twsx | _cont | 13:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey there!

Thanks for the message. :) I would not mind being administrator, but I do not think I am quite ready for the whole nomination process; I have a lot to improve on. I will maybe go through some admin coaching, but it's only a vague idea in my mind at this stage. Plus, I do not quite feel I need the administrative privileges at this point to improve my work on Misplaced Pages. However, this may change in a couple of months. ^^

Zouavman Le Zouave 16:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Alright. :) If you ever feel you're ready, and you don't happen to have a more credible user (shouldn't be hard to find though), tell me, i'd nominate you. ~ | twsx | _cont | 18:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I really appreciate it. :) Rock on! Zouavman Le Zouave 19:11, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey! I just started my Editor Review. Feel free to review my contributions, here. ^^ Zouavman Le Zouave 11:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

DRV

I have initiated a deletion review of an AFD which you were involved in. You may wish to contribute to the discussion. Balancer 04:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

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Objection

If you are taking off saliva and soil from the list of nu metal than I think that P O D should be also heck POD should be christian metal but I guess its your decision but its not a very good one. I think that saliva and soil have a sound thats upbeat uptempo I mean thats not very slow but also not very fast this should be the distinction from the rest, if they're loud and have heavy guitars riffs that flow perfect from one step to the other and killer beats from the drummer and you can also understand what the lead singer is saying than I think that all of that genre should be considered nu metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.17.33 (talk) 09:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I understand your concern about SOiL as they probebly touch the border to nu metal, but Saliva? I see no relation whatsoever, they are as far away from nu metal as iron maiden is. But, you are always free to change the article to the bext you know. ~ | twsx | _cont | 16:11, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Useless

I don't really appreciate you referring to my edits as "useless". I reverted your reversion with a more detailed explanation on the talk page.Game Collector 15:25, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I replied on Talk:World of Warcraft. ~ | twsx | _cont | 18:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

If I Must

The person was not a real user, and the comment was not only offensive but had unjustifiable language in it. How can we trust people who are not real users? These are usually the people whose edits need to be reverted. Besides, I won't change it again, this whole thing is stupid.Navnløs 22:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

You seem to be visiting some of the pages I have gone to recently. I understand the decapitalizing of Metal to metal, but why exactly are you decapitalizing Death to death and Black to black in front of the metal names after the first line on Sarcofago and Bathory? I've never seen other pages do that and it frankly does not make sense.Navnløs 22:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

See WP:MUSTARD. ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

WHOA

You're are about to go over a line there and I don't like it. First off, you're TELLING me I NEED to trim my user page? What for? Secondly I don't care what you believe, but other than not liking mallcore, all of my edits here on wikipdeia have been extremely serious and have only added to the greatness of wikipedia. I am no vandaliser or detractor of wikipedia, got that? You don't think I want to add to wikipedia? WELL TOO BAD. You're wrong! All of my contributions including making some band pages have been just to add here on wikipedia. I happen to like wikipedia and im a serious wikiholic. I just dont like nu metal.Navnløs 22:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't like a number of musical genres. You know what i do? I leave them alone. Or, if i find to be able to make a real contribution to it, i make sure it is valuable and, if controversial, can be reliably referenced. Your edits fail all of those points. ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention, "While i do not believe you have an honest interest in adding to wikipedia, i nevertheless hope to see a change." really is insulting! What are you my father? You hope to see a change? Yeah I wont mess with others opinions on talk pages, but I have always considered myself a good contributor to wikipedia. I have added and changed many things (for the better) even before I had this profile. And I always back up what I have to say with facts. I'll have you know that I am NOT biased in other areas except when it comes to mallcore, rap, emo, post-hardcore (scremo) and well just a couple other things. But all my edits on metal pages and other stuff are help wikipedia.Navnløs 23:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

If that is so, then you might want to create a legit sockpuppet for your edits on the topics you dislike, as they don't quite make you look like a valuable contributor. ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

My sources WERE reliable and if they were'nt it was ONLY on the nu metal page. Also see Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (capital letters), as I believe, if you read it, I think they were only referring to genres in senteces and not in the info musicboxes. I apologize for creating a ruckus but I do truly get offended when someone implies certain things such as me not being serious about wikipedia. Have a nice day.Navnløs 23:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Unclear. However, WP:ALBUM ] states that they should be comma seperated and not capitalized. Although this is for album infoboxes, there is no reason to believe this doesn't apply for an infobox on a band article as well, as it is pretty much the same. And no, your sources on your change to nu metal were not reliable for wikipedia. ~ | twsx | _cont | 23:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

RE: Sarcófago genre list.

I'm totally aware of the guidelines, and I'm aware no guideline prohibits the use of line break separated genre lists in the musical artist infobox. As it is a list, every row should be capitalized, and since one genre spans two rows using commas ("metal" is being displayed on the second row, which is not very pretty) I reverted it. I don't care about commas or line breaks, but genres spanning two rows is too ugly. Kameejl 17:09, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

There have been discussions on how to format genres in the musical artist infobox and consensus has never been reached (some want <br />, others commas). Therefore no guideline has ever been made to impose a particular lay out. You have no valid reason to impose a lay out. WP:ALBUM guidelines don't apply to {{infobox musical artist}}, and WP:MUSTARD contains no information on genre lay out. Kameejl 02:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

RfC for User:Scipo

I have started a request for comment for User:Scipo regarding his reverting of genre changes. If you'd like to endorse this RfC or comment, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Scipo. Wyatt Riot 23:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for signing it! I realized afterwards that, by initiating the process on a Friday night, there was a chance I wouldn't have another signature within the required 2 days. So thanks again! :) Wyatt Riot 22:17, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

How Aggravating

Your edits on the Sarcofago and Bathory pages are breaking WP:POV. Please stop. I only broke WP:POV once, which I apologized for. Though it does state on WP:MUSTARD about the decapitalization of genres it says nothing about separating the genres with commas. The majority of pages I have seen on wikipedia still have the line break between genres and it should stay that way. You cannot support your argument. There is no reason to accept your changes to what was a fine page before. I would'nt care except that not only can you not back up what you are saying but, when you comma separate the genres it looks ugly and the "law," so to speak, is on my side since no consensus has been reached on either line breaking or comma breaking.Navnløs 22:07, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, I'm not sure what writing html has to do with this situation, but I assure you, I can write html.Navnløs 22:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

On a further note why do you call this a game? I find that offensive as I am taking this seriously and it is not a game.Navnløs 22:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Additionaly, why do you care so much about those two pages? It is not your area of expertise, and all your doing is changing the look of it slightly and it seems you're doing this just to aggravate me. Let it be, especially when it seems the way I am doing it (with the line breaks) is more popular...see pages such as Judas Priest, and please don't tell me you're gonna change that page now that I told you about it. This band, and many other famous early metal bands, list it the way I do (and I had nothing to do with it) so will you please leave them that way.Navnløs 22:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

See such pages as Thrash metal and Black metal,are you telling me you want to edit the music infoboxes there, too?? Seeing as how they go with the line break between genres???Navnløs 22:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Too drunk, will answer tomorrow. ~ | twsx | _cont | 22:26, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

omg...and here you are thinking you're the constructive person? It would have been better if you had just waited till tomorrow to say anything at all...Navnløs 22:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC) Oh look, right there on the list Suggestbot sent you...right up there right on your talk page^...the band Darkane...and what's this? It has line breaking between genres in its music infobox!!! Since, you're too drunk to know what I'm talking about let's make this simple and I'll just put a link for you here: Darkane.Navnløs 22:34, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Response

I first thought i'd answer to all of your messages individually, but since you don't really make a point, i'll just go through this quick:

POV? As far as I was aware, POV reflects editing behavoir regarding content, not wikification and similar. To be sure, i went over it again, and while there are some points regarding spelling (i.e. about British and American english) i still can't seem to understand that accusation. Please help me out.
My argument is supported, allthough not prescribed, by policies i have mentioned to you at least once.
We stand on opposite sides, yet we are in the same position. You have no reason to accept my edits, i have no reason to accept yours. While i can point out the already existing policy is sort of on my side, this very issue is still being debated without any kind of consensus, so we will just have to agree that we disagree. Your argument why you think my version is "bad", and you think "the law" is on your side is flawed.
About the "html thing" and the "game thing": I was already half way groggy when making those edits and should have refrained from editing, i apologize for that. To enhance my summary though: The break tags you added were not only unclosed, they were also written in capital letters, both of which is invalid by W3C standard.
How would you know what my area of expertise is? I am making those edits because i think it is right and the encyclopedia benefits from them, not to anger anyone. Allthough, you do enrage pretty fast, which is very entertaining after half a bottle of wine. And don't worry, i am not actively searching for pages to change the genre list on, i just do it whenever i happen to get across one of them. Please, though, be aware that i can keep editing this as long as i want, unless i am "officially" being told not to (as official i would consider an RFC/ANI), so no, i will not "please leave them that way".
I do think of myself as a constructive person, at least when it comes to editing on wikipedia. While "good" depends on oneselfs point of view, i do only make edits when i truely believe i am improving the things i change. You on the other hand were trying to disgrace a well-written article by adding your derogatory , NPOV-biased, generalized stereo nonsense. So if this is a question of beliefs, who is the constructive one and who isn't?

I am not even going into the incivil last of your paragraphs, all i'm going to say is that using the suggest bot does in no way require me to even look at the article, i just thought i'd try the bot out, and have yet not found the time to look into the suggestions.

For you: WP:CIVIL, WP:OMGWTFBBQ. You may also want to read up on policies before accusing someone of breaking them.

I am honestly looking forward to reading your reply. And please excuse spelling and syntax mistakes, i am kind of having a hangover and still have to work. ~ | twsx | _cont | 08:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

...really

I refuse to continue this silly conversation anymore. You seem to very opinionated (not that I'm not). As for me looking at those two guidelines...civil? I was civil, I only pointed out the fact that you were drunk (which you said yourself) and that this was exasperating. As for the other guideline, I used no abbreviations except WP:POV, which I knew you already knew as you also accused me of this, and WP:MUSTARD which you kept telling me to look at, and I did.Navnløs 18:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I thought we were done with this. Look no consensus has been reached on either the line break or comma break, but why do you insist on the comma break. It looks messy, whereas the line break looks ordered.Navnløs 19:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

CEASE EDITIING-I have taken our issue to be sorted out, becuase I really want to find out which way is the correct one. Until then we should not edit those pages anymore.Navnløs 19:27, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't look messy at all, it's more tidy and informative, and takes less space. "CEASE EDITIING" - No. ~ | twsx | _cont | 20:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Well I don't think it looks more tidy or informative at all...when the genres are clearly listed on the side one-by-one your eyes sweep over them more easily, and they're not all packed together like sardines, not to mention, in the music infobox, nothing else is listed in such a manner (comma break), so when one thing IS listed in comma break form (like the genres) it looks untidy and sticks out like a sore thumb.Navnløs 22:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Look, I believe the comma break sticks out like a sore thumb because every other section in the music infobox for bands (associated acts, labels, members, former members) uses a line break and is listed on a one-by-one basis, so why should'nt the genres be listed on a one-by-one basis? I realize this takes up more room and makes the info musicbox longer, but not by much, in fact, it gets barely any longer at all.Navnløs 22:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Nouns. ~ | twsx | _cont | 22:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

oh okay you're saying associated acts, labels, members, former members are nouns. Well isn't a noun a person, place, thing or idea? I would say black metal is a thing or idea...its a concept of music. Perhaps not a thing, but surely genres are an idea or sorts. I mean you can say "I like rock.", well where is the noun in that sentence...I see a subject "I" and a verb "like" AND a noun "rock." It just like saying "I like rock music," but its understood you can just say "rock" or "rap."Navnløs 22:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

So you indeed did NOT read the policies regarding genres... ~ | twsx | _cont | 22:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

OMG, NO, I DID! Did you see anywhere in my last reply that said they should be capitalized??? I happen to think it looks nicer, but I get the whole capitalization thing. What I really want is the line break, nvm the capitalization.Navnløs 22:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:Your show/hide JS boxes

By all means, take them and enjoy then. I copied them from somebody, too :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk} 23:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello

I almost missed fighting with you today. You know you really do like some good bands. I'm surprised at your listing In Flames as not metal, though. They are melodic and they're newer work is starting to stray from their roots, but there is no doubt they were metal for a long time. In other news, I just thought I'd tell you I changed all those pages we usually fight over (Amon Amarth, Sarcofago, etc.) and I noticed something. Without you here nobody changed them!! It was almost weird. Everyone left them the way they were, with line breaks. Anyways, I know you'll eventually be back on to continue the battle, and as much work as it is, I almost look forward to it. Once we are finished with this, though, I hope we can work together on more productive things. I took you for a total nu metal person, and as much as I dislike the genre and its fans, you do like other good bands and you do seem knowledgeable about things. (I still think the nu metal article should say something about how people view it, the good and the bad, just as many other metal genres look at the good and bad views here on wikipedia) Anyways, happy day off =) Navnløs 21:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I do have to admit that it's only been around four hours since I edited those pages, but still that's a long time for no one to change my edits with the line breaks...perhaps, just maybe, there are more people who agree with the line breaking method than we think. Navnløs 21:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

RE:RE:

I think I can excuse your, uh, "abstinence" LOL. Well, I know what you meant. I still believe it is easier on the eyes to see the genres one by one as eveything else is listed on a one by one basis in the music infobox. Also, User:Kameejl left a comment on my page after you left yours.

"I was browsing by and had to reply to this comment. I really don't think "the majority takes side for commas". Most infoboxes use line breaks. Just look for a random non music infobox and you'll see, line breaks are generally used (company, actor, planet, and many other infoboxes)." Kameejl 14:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Just thought you might want to know.Navnløs 19:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd also like to point out that those pages we usually fight over have still yet to be changed to comma breaks =). I think more people like the line break than you think. Navnløs 19:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

AHA!!! Well the pages we once fought over have still yet to be changed. I did notice, however, that you tried to change Amon Amarth but someone immediately changed it back...I'm telling you those line breaks are getting more popular by the day lol. Navnløs 22:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear Twsx and Dear Scipo,

Regarding Article: Amon Amarth

Dear Twsx and Dear Scipo, May I remind you both not to get into an edit war, it's only a comma!! Please both of you Have a Nice cup of Tea and Sit Down The guidelines on the template page do not specify, however in the example on the template page shows the genres to be separated by commas and are all on the same line. PhilB ~ /_C 20:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Please Come with me to disguss this on the articles talk page PhilB ~ /_C 21:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

How's things?

Whats up? It's been a while. Dissesction rules, but do you happen to like their last album or their first two? Navnløs 19:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I guess i like them alike, allthough they are kind of different in style. I would however prefer it if you would keep conversations between us about wikipedia and wikipedia related matters, no offense. ~ | twsx | _cont | 15:00, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good. I have to say, though, that I think there last album reeks as they changed their style totally and went all melodeath...but bad. Navnløs 18:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I couldn't help but notice you were trying to change the Sarcofago, Bathory and Amon Amarth pages, again. You're not seriously gonna start this all over again, are you? Navnløs 19:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I went by it on my usual, being-bored tour through my watchlist, saw them being messed up and changed them, what else. And i am not starting anything, i am keeping to what has turned out to be in favour amongst editors, yet too controversial to be written down as a rule. The one on a streak to enforce his point of view by pushing every article to his personal liking is you, not me, hence your ban. ~ | twsx | _cont | 19:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Disturbed - Stricken in Guitar Hero III

Hey,

I notice that you keep removing a certain user's addition to Song Appearances - Stricken in Guitar Hero III. I understand why you keep doing it, and I saw the message you added, but I think that, since the Guitar Hero series is quite popular, it should be added under Song Appearances, especially since non-notable movies like Valentine are put in there. What do you think? Dan 23:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I removed what i knew not to be notable for such a list, I can't guarantee that those who were left in the list are. We'd rather delete the entries of your concern. The whole list is trivia anyway. ~ | twsx | _cont | 01:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Stop

You are not only being a dick, going through my comtributions and changing all that stuff, but you are making some extremely ugly edits and acting like a child. Navnløs 00:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

What a horribly incivil comment. The fact that you return your accusations to yourself, all by yourself, and the other fact that i should be in bed for at least an hour, pursuade me not to "answer" to any of your "comments". ~ | twsx | _cont | 00:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Just ignore it. I'm going to warn him about his incivility. Scarian 11:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Twsx, I have reverted most of your edits referring to WP:MOS/WP:MUSTARD as there is no information in these guidelines that back up the changes you have made. You are fixing things that are not broken, violating WP:POINT, pushing POV and I know this isn't the first time because I have brought it to your attention before; things we wikipedians see as pretty uncivil, dirupting and deconstructive. I will keep on reverting POV pushing, unfounded (or even worse: incorrectly founded) changes. Kameejl 13:39, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Your argumentation is flawed. Let's say there really was nothing to back up my edits (which is not the case); Then you and Navlos would be in the very same position i am. Also, did you even read WP:POV and WP:POINT? Doesn't seem like it. PS: Your profound attempt at seperating us out with you "being a wikipedian" and me "not being one" is very very funny, because it proves your inability to talk about stuff in a respectful and mature way. ~ | twsx | _cont | 15:38, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:POINT: "State your point; don't prove it experimentally". In this case you should discuss your point of view instead of changing articles ("prove it experimentally"). This topic (comma vs. line breaks) has been and is still being discussed on template_talk:Infobox Musical artist. Editing articles to only change line breaks to commas is pov pushing. There is no consensus on this subject yet. Discuss this topic, until consensus is reached, and change the policies/guidelines to support whatever infobox format. That is the wikipedia way.

WP:NPOV: Your point of view: comma delimited genres. My point of view: line break delimited genres. As you cannot prove your point of view is better (commas instead of line breaks) you cannot change articles to represent your view (a lay-out in this case). There is no neutral point of view yet (no consensus) so you are pushing pov.

PS. I never said you were no wikipedian. Your on wikipedia so you're a wikipedian. Please discuss the topic, not the people who discuss.

Refer to your very own comment. You get personal. ~ | twsx | _cont | 14:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

PPS. The burden of proof is on you. Please quote parts out of WP:MOS/WP:MUSTARD to justify your changes. I won't discuss this any further anywhere else than template_talk:Infobox Musical artist. Kameejl 14:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Good! One point we agree on. ~ | twsx | _cont | 14:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Armistice

Please take a look at Template_talk:Infobox_Musical_artist#Armistice, I thought you might be interested. Kameejl 12:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:RFA

Just a little note to let you know to be careful when editing this page. This edit removed the dashes from under the last RfA. In doing so, it removed the RfA from the summary list and cause it to be closed late, which can be stressful for the candidate. So just a head's up. Thanks for your consideration. Lara❤Love 19:08, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Amon Amarth

Please don't start this edit war again. On this article you are clearly a minority wishing for comma separated genres. This is clearly pov pushing. The caps are now incorrect, you're not foxing anything. If it's your intention to restore the original lay out please consider restoring the first lay out of 28 dec 2006. Kameejl 12:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Have you really read WP:EW and WP:POV? Your baseless accusations make it seem like you didn't, or didn't understand them. I am always open to talk about stuff, but please refrain from leaving false and aggravating incriminations and trivial or even untrue reasonings on my talk page, they are not what I want to spend time on on wikipedia. ~ | twsx | _cont | 12:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

PS: I forgot to thank you for notifying me about the talk on the infobox. Sorry about that, and thanks again. ~ | twsx | _cont | 12:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I known what an edit war is and I know what a point of view is.

A) If an editor thinks X is the right way, then that's the editor's point of view.
B) If an editor insists on having X in the article, and continuously edits articles and reverts edits so X is in the article and Y is not in the article, the editor is pushing his/her pov.
C) If an editor keeps on imposing his/her pov on an article (content or lay out wise, it doesn't matter) reverting edits again and again, the editor is participating in an edit war.

Do you really want me to point you to the edits where the editor in A, B an C is called Twsx, X=commas and Y=line breaks? Come on, be honest. Kameejl 13:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

No objection on your wording. There is however a difference between your explanation and the policies carrying the name. Now you be honest (don't need you to, it's fact, but still): I am reverting your edits, you are reverting mine. If that constitutes as edit warring, it applies to you too. The difference between us two and Navlos is, i am not, and you don't seem to be either, steadily looking for things to revert. ~ | twsx | _cont | 14:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I was reverting commas before I asked everybody to stop, since then, I've stopped. Kameejl 14:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

To Twsx: I don't look for things to revert, though. I only protected certain pages that had line breaks for a long time. The reason why me, Kameejl, CicafuciX and others are not "edit warring" is because we share consensus, which is a rule of wikipedia. You, however, are the only one that has the opinion that Amon Amarth needs comma breaks, which makes you the wrongdoer per WP:CON. Also I am giving you a Warning for being so uncivil with this comment, "Many arguments promoting commas have been brought up, yet not one single valid argument for line breaks has been given (yet, you have failed to give any arument that is not trivial such as "it looks better"), you are just too lazy or too ignorant to read." First of all, though, I have given many arguments better than "it looks better" and you either know this or are ignorant. Also, I don't need to give an argument AT ALL. Line breaks were around years before comma breaks were used, which means your side is the one that needs to explain. Blizzard Beast 23:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Which, again, is no reason to keep it. And, again, your argumentation is flawed. I am not the only one speaking for commas (that argument is actually a new one, even from you) and there is no consensus as well (the discussion actually favours commas, so you failed to understand WP:CON which you so heroically quote alltogether). ~ | twsx | _cont | 07:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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Restoring Guild page

A vandal broke any links to Guild information pages on the World of Warcraft US Illidan server page here-

http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Illidan_US

My Guild's page continued to exist but I did not know how to re-establish the link. So what I did was click on the existing dead link and pasted the guild info into that page. Now it has been scheduled for deletion, which will again remove our listing from the Illidan page. Can you please fix it so that there is only one TBC page that links from the Illidan server page? Thanks.

Our two pages-

http://www.wowwiki.com/%28TBC%29_The_Black_Company (actively linked to Illidan)

http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:The_Black_Company_%28Illidan_US%29 (unlinked) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.2.75.26 (talk) 16:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. However, please contact me on my talk page on WoWWiki instead of here the next time. :) ~ | twsx | _cont | 17:39, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Dissection (band)

Please don't start this edit war again. Just like Amon Amarth the first lay out was not comma separated. The 156 user (156.34.214.123) changed it, and has now wisely stopped changing genre delimters. Kameejl 19:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)