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Forces of Corruption

Your welcome. I try to improve expansion packs from time to time, so I'll keep an eye on this one. Hope yoor doing okay; take a break if you need one. Clyde (talk) 18:52, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your concern. I'll be fine. While this spoiler mess is going on I may cause temporary damage to my keyboard or even have a suitably theatralic minor breakdown or two, but I'll be fine. I'm quite ridiculously stubborn, you know. --Kizor 22:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Lol. I saw that debate, took one look, and said not gonna bother. Big bru ha ha though eh?--Clyde (talk) 22:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

More on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of films by gory death scene (3rd nomination))

My take is that "unencyclopedic" means "the kind of stuff we have agreed (or think that) doesn't belong in Misplaced Pages". The general view of this has changed and is still changing, IMO too far and too fast sometimes. But have a look at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/LC 7893 jet for some of the idiocies that people, apparently in good faith, create as Misplaced Pages articles. Part of the problem is that WP:NOR is being interpreted differently and more strictly. Originally, this was basically a rule against using Misplaced Pages to publish fringe-theory physics. By now, putting facts from disparate sources together (all admitted facts) and drawing a plausible but not inevitable conclusion is OR unless a source can be pointed to for the conclusion. That is the biggest change that affects many of the list pages, their assembly is now considered OR under the new, expanded definition.

Mind you, I think that many of the changes are good ones -- Misplaced Pages used to include lots of junk that couldn't be gotten rid of provided that it was popular with a critical mass of supporters who would turn out for a VfD/AfD. I do think the project is being taken more seriously now, and i do think that is a good thing. While we aren't a paper encyclopedia and don't have the space limits that paper imposes (although we are short of servers and bandwidth again, not enough cash) we should IMO take ourselves with more or less the same kind of seriousness that more traditional encyclopedias do.

You said "I can see that there was no other option, even a "relist to generate further discussion" would've caught flak" I don't mind catching flak -- I caught plenty on the Userbox wars (i was opposed to the mass deletions of early 2006), User Blue ribbon (I opposed his banning), several deletions under the newly expanded and aggressive WP:BLP policy (I opposed them), the start of the Great Spoiler Purge (I reverted many of the early removals of spoiler tags) and various other occasions. (Note that I lost all the above arguments.) But re-listing is for when there has been too little comment, not too much, and when there is some reasonable hope that re-listing will change the outcome. I doubt that there was any in this case.

You say "I'm confident a new version can be hammered out at a wikiproject, which are designed for cooperation, instead of an AfD, which are designed for being at loggerheads" You may well be right. I simply want some assurance that the project actually exists and has a commitment to work on fixing the problems here (or perceived problems) before i undelete and move to project space. Mind you i have seen cooperative AfDs -- indeed sometimes AfD seems like the best cleanup tool available. But not when the issue is whether a type of article belongs at all, only when people are pretty much agreed on what is needed in advance, and an AfD spurs them to actually do it.

I do try to stay polite, whatever the circs. I'm glad I manged it in this case. Thanks for your comments. DES 13:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Dispute over List of gory death scenes

Thanks for your invitation to help with the discussion over what to do with this article, but I'm afraid I won't be able to take part - I'm busy with too many other issues at the moment. All the same, I hope it goes well, and that the disputes over the article can be resolved. Terraxos 23:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

"fire education"

You know, I saw that comment about the "burining girl" over on VP as I was scrolling down, and I felt compelled to tell you how disturbingly funny it was. If I can find a flaming barnstar, you certainly deserve it! MSJapan 22:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I aim to please. To please and horrify. And there are few greater pleasures than pulling off an outrageous stunt for a perfectly valid reason. *grin* Re barnstar: Since you asked, I'm sure there is one - especially as an all-purpose one seems to have been introduced - but I'd rather at least delay it until I've written that actual article. If a Surreal Barnstar seems more appropriate, please delay that until I've brought Finnish profanity to at least "B" - status. I like to feel that I've earned them. :P --Kizor 22:50, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Paavo Nurmi and Vasa

Hi, i saw you had started the debate about the paavo nurmi statue at the vasa wreck. I've added in the factoid as you had originally suggested. But it has been a bit of an edit debate in the article by the editors keen on the article without any outside views. So I'd ask you to comment on that talk page about why you felt and feel it should be part of the article (as i have already done). Gillis 12:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

CBFan

Yes, I have seen some of the recent kerfuffle CBFan's been involved with, as some of it's on my watchlist. If he doesn't come back from his block having rethought his approach to things, I'd suggest either a Wikiquette alert (an informal, gentler way of doing things, which seems very suitable for addressing incivility) or, if really thought necessary, an RfC. --Mark H Wilkinson 07:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. RfCs tend to kick up an awful lot of dust for very few results - and in this particular case, there's no complicated issue to merit calling for a multitude of perspectives - but a Wikiquette alert looks like it could be tailor-made for the occasion. That said, I spoke in Kingdom's favor on AN/I because of what CBFan has put him through, which CBFan saw and has accused me of lying and deliberately making him look bad three times and counting. Could you stay back as a relatively uninvolved party and make an alert if and when you consider it appropriate? (His first e-mail actually quoted and attacked your text, but apparently as a case of mistaken identity.) --Kizor 01:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Conversation opener

Apologies for not being there to help. It was for the same reason that was behind my feeble rudimentary appeal on the AfD when a full-fledged one could've saved this trouble: sleep, that first of human fallacies.
Do you need ("need", not "can use" in the circumstances, alas) a hand with the article? --Kizor 08:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, it may get speedied again and have to go to WP:DRV. It depends on the interpretation of CSD #4. This is one of the pitfalls of the deletion process, that the early votes remain static although the article can change dramatically from the beginning of the process to the end. Captain Zyrain 08:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Here's what you do: Vote to overturn the deletion at Misplaced Pages:Deletion_review/Active#Conversation_opener. Captain Zyrain 09:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

list of films

I put the lists in my userpages because they are useful. I don't really intend to do much with them in the way of editing. If you want to edit them go ahead. Jooler 07:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Master of Orion

Hi, I'm glad you liked my update of the Master of Orion article. I tend to be conservative in the use of images because: they make pages load more slowly; one can only use fairly small images in articles and its often hard to see the relevant details in thumbnails; most images need quite a lot of explanatory text. In the case of Master of Orion the article is now quite long, and I didn't want to make it longer unless I could see clear benefits to the reader. After some thought I concluded that: the galaxy map ("main screen") with management controls for a planet and the combat screen (with stacks) would do the most to give readers a good idea of what it feels like to play the game; the images you mentioned ("new tech discovered"; ship design, which would need lot of explanatory text; plant information, which some commentators regard as superfluous) did not do enough to justify the costs to the reader. Of course YMMV :-)Philcha 19:47, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. You make good points, in fact I'd call them "salient" but I'm not entirely sure what that means. ;-) I've been thoroughly spoiled regarding bandwidth by the local campus network - suffice it to say that I don't know what kind of top speed I could get from this thing - so are the loading times a significant issue? Luckily, in this case the low resolution of the images keeps the file sizes small (15 KB at the most) and the thumbnails fully legible, migitating many of the potential problems. The explanatory text and the need for benefiting the reader, those I'll grant you.

You'll have noticed that I stuck the images back. It was an emergency measure as I'd intended to discuss them with you first, but time ran out before your reply came. Now that we have the time to reflect - yeah, the research picture is horrid. I likely aimed to illustrate the distinct features of the game, but that image only conveys the fact that MoO has technological advancements. As does every other 4X, near as makes no difference. (Yes, us non-native English speakers sometimes tend to use a mishmash of idioms and expressions that we've picked up from different places. Stylistic consistency is for fancies. Anyway.) There's likely no way to present the fact in pictures. In its place, I could put one or two fine diplomacy images that I have laying around - "your attack was unprovoked" and "continue expanding and you'll face our wrath" are novel even today! I'm ambivalent about the planet picture. It worked somewhat better when the graphics section was integrated with another, now-deleted article about how things that try to work with what they have tend to keep better than things that try to look as real as possible. This is scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit, but its elaborate graphics does have a good contrast with the other screens, which tend towards the spartan, showing that the game is built to be functional but is still decorated. (Granted, using any Terran planet than Meklon would've been a better move.) We should definitely have a picture about ship design. That's one of the biggest parts of the entire game and certainly the most memorable, plus another feature rare to this day. It's not necessary to describe the process in detail in the thumbnail, just add the image to where ship design is covered to demonstrate the process and its complexity. --Kizor 02:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Added text about 4 hull sizes and types of ship components.

Removed "new tech discovered" image as it tells the reader nothing. The problem with tech is that we really need 2 images: resource allocation (sliders) and the menu in which player chooses which tech to research next. IMO 2 images is 1 too many for 1 subject, so I'd rather stick with the text explanation.

I'd love it if someone could provide either of 2 diplomacy images: "continue expanding and you'll face our wrath" makes the point that AIs get seriously nervous / jealous; "how could we refuse those who gave us ..." makes the point that AI players remember past dealings (better IMO than in other 4X games I've played, including MOO2). IMO one of MOO's strengths is how well it makes the AI players seem like real people.

BTW I've also done a major edit on Master of Orion II: Battle at Antares and would welcome your comments.Philcha 11:12, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Evil Lair

Done, see User:Kizor\Evil lair. Garion96 (talk) 12:36, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Smile!

Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

--Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 06:29, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem

Regarding "notability purges", I'm actually on your side. I think articles should be kept if they're high quality and notable within their series or the general genre, regardless of whether or not X reliable source has covered it. However, a few weeks ago it was just decided that numerous high quality articles would be deleted for lack of notability, including an important and relevant one I was proud of, Ridley (Metroid). Therefore I decided if someone was going on a purge, I might as well help them out. I personally do not want to see any of the articles I nominated go (with the exception of Kracko and possible exception of Dyna Blade (Kirby), both of which seem rather crufty) but I guess we should be thorough. Since you're an admin I think you can help me out here. I'd be happy to stop the deletions, except I don't really know how-do I just say "We're putting this discussion on hold", or is there some template? I also created this discussion a few days ago to explain that policies regarding WP:N weren't being consistently followed, but I came off as using WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Hopefully you can help me out with some of these "notability purges", as many of the articles that were deleted and that I've nominated for deletion were and are good quality and notable. Thanks for being so kind! ShadowUltra 05:25, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't intend on nominating any more. Those were the only ones I felt should be reviewed. But yeah, I'll hold off if I see any more. ShadowUltra 05:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Happy Halloween!

As Halloween is my favorite holiday, I just wanted to wish my twenty favorite fellow Wikipedians a Happy Halloween! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 04:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm leaving a comment/response on the Xenofiction AfD page. Thanks for the reminder. RLetson 17:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Template:majoredit

I have never seen this template used to slow or stop an AfD until now - see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Xenofiction. I think that you may be getting too involved in the debate, as this template may be interpreted as a means of slowing down the AfD process in order to obtain a specific result which you perceive to be the 'right' one. Remember, a deleted article may be restarted at any time. I suggest that you userfy it and reintroduce the article when you obtained the necessary primary and secondary sources to demonstrate the notability of Xenofiction. --Gavin Collins 09:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Zap

If it's done the rounds before, just say that and zap it Jimfbleak 07:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

a== A Misplaced Pages meetup in Helsinki? ==

Hello! Are you interested in a meetup for contributors of the English language Misplaced Pages in Finland? If so, please comment at Misplaced Pages:Meetup/Helsinki (and, of course, invite other Wikipedians you know who might be interested). Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 15:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!

I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 16:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Reply from Jay32183

UMass Amherst is great. I'm not too familiar with the philosophy department. If you have any questions about the Geoscience department, I'm your man though. Jay32183 (talk) 05:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Example creep

D'oh! So I read the wrong thing into it. I guess I don't deserve it. based solel;y on my misinterpretation. I do try to prevent bloat, though. :) Arcayne () 15:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

The Angry Video Game Nerd in a Swedish magazine

I didn't read the magazine myself as I don't buy magazines due to the information availability on the internet. But it is highly plausible that the article you shown me is from that magazine. It was a few month ago to say the least that I saw the magazine. The Angry Video Game Nerd was featured on the cover of this independent professional gaming magazine sold primarily in video game stores but can most likely be found in magazine specialized stores as well. The articles dialogue is about who the Angry Video Game Nerd is, how he became as popular as he is, what his preferences of games good as well as the worst are. I would say it would serve as a good reference for such a section. If you need help, I can translate it for you. Lord Metroid (talk) 14:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah man, if you could give me a copy, it'd be great.

I understand what you did, and how your doing what you're supposed to do.

No big deal man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by I-am-durden (talk • contribs) 00:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Angry Video Game Nerd and 148.201.1.111

I've seen you say a few things on his talk page. But at this point, I'm getting tired of this. 148.201.1.111, or has he calls himself, "JamalTompson" is really starting to get on my nerves on the AVGN subject. Would you please step in and get him to be quiet, if he doesn't like the article, that's fine. But he has no right to keep this up. It's been an almost unanimous agreement to keep the article, so I don't think we need to hear anything else about the matter of deletion.

Thanks,

--Mooshykris (talk) 01:59, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Blocking

The list can be found at Misplaced Pages:Template messages/User talk namespace. As most ips will usually change, we don't block them indefinitely. The template for indef is {{uw-block3}} or {{uw-voablock}} or Category:User block templates has a more comprehensive list. Woodym555 (talk) 14:23, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Again

Sorry to post a second time, but I didn't know if you would be notified if I edited the other one or not.

The guy I mentioned about the AVGN article is still keeping it up, his most recent post being this:

Jamal Thompson: You two are assuming a close-minded position because you feel that your idol is being treatened. When actually, what I try to do is just the right thing. Im not a vandal, the admin who I've been talking to doesn't think I am, that's why he allowed me to edit pages once again in the first place.

Anyway, as far as im concerned. I'm just going to suggest deletion for this entry and use your fanboyism as evidence of the point I'm trying to make. Cheers

This really needs to come to an end, and to mention, he's apparently online around now. So whenever you can take care of it, hurry.

I'm sorry if I'm bothering you, it's just I think this is slowly getting out of hand, and I can picture bigger problems on the way if this keeps up.

--Mooshykris (talk) 01:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

It's cool, man. I try to stay chill. Most people on the internet are jackasses now, and Im sick of all the crap. No one thinks about the consequences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by I-am-durden (talk • contribs) 22:49, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, now he's going around posting deletion proposals on more then just the AVGN article. This time on Chris Crocker's Page! If this keeps up, his "trying to help" will drag all internet phenomena into the debate. He just won't let it go! This has to stop! --Mooshykris (talk) 00:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Spellcross

Hi,

I hope this is the right way to communicate with you, I am not used to use wikipedia expect reading the articles. The Spellcross was actually the only article in English wiki I edited and two in Czech.

Anyway, as for your question I don't have any great ideas to improve the article right now... hmmm... English is not my native language, were my changes ok as far as the English grammar is concerned?

I would like to note that the "joined missions" difference is just only a thing I read on some Czech forum, I could not verify it myself {have no strength/time to play each version of the game after the other to remember it exactly), I verified the strategic maps - new pictures, tutorial, three difficulty settings and some changes to mission design thought. I am not completely sure how the 2 vs 3 difficulty settings compare to each other + with these changes to mission design I don't dare to confirm the rumors that the Czech version is more difficult in general.

I have link to interview with Cauldron (27. 7. 2005), but it is in Czech so guess I can't add it to EN wiki {http://www.doupe.cz/h/Special/Ar.asp?ARI=111373&CAI=2199&EXPS=%22CAULDRON%2A%22} maybe you are interested so I will translate to you the question about S2:

"Q:Neuvažujete o pokračování Spellcrossu? Spousta fanoušků by jej uvítala. {Aren't you considering a sequel of Spellcross? Many fans would welcome it.)

A:Spellcross je naše srdcová záležitost a prakticky každý týden (ano, i teď, po bezmála osmi letech od vydání) dostáváme pozitivní ohlasy. Určitě, až dozraje správná doba, pokračování uděláme. A vůbec to nemusí být až tak daleko. (Spellcross is a think of our heart and virtually every week (yes, even now, after nearly eight years after release) we are receiving positive feedback. Certainly, when the time comes, we will make the sequel. And it might not be that far away.)"

I read somewhere later thought, that the idea of making the sequel was again considered but rejected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ottodostal (talk • contribs) 23:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Please correct the mistakes in that! —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Saad (talk • contribs) 17:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD closure

Thanks for thinking of me, but I'm not v. experienced in AfD matters (having said as much in my very recent RfA) and so please excuse me if I decline your request: I don't think this is the one for me to start my AfD closing career with! Regards, Bencherlite 00:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Re your message: I think I'm going to decline to close it, too, though for different reasons. I'm not so sure that it been too short between the last AfD as the length of time is not clearly defined. I don't close enough AfDs to be aware of what de facto time limit is, either. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I understand your concern on the amount of time in-between the AfDs, but it can be justified with common sense.

The previous AfD was started more than a month before the current one, and I do not recall reading a policy stating that there should be a difference between the time it ended and the time it started.

Also, there has been over a month since the time it was started, and about three weeks since it has ended, yet there has been little to no improvements, as already mentioned on the current AfD.

This should probably justify the second nomination. As far as I know, morale and amount of editors are not issues in regards of when an article can be renominated. IAmSasori (talk) 03:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I would also like to note that the closing admin of the previous AfD Haemo has stated that he "would strongly suggest that users work on this aspect, and pronto, because articles cannot persist indefinitely on such a basis." I'm sure that nearly a month is more time than "pronto," suggesting the renomination should remain open. IAmSasori (talk) 03:36, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Qfg2 frag bug.png)

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Angry Video Game Nerd

I'll try to work your reference into the article tonight. I might perhaps write a short "International" section under the popularity section. Do you have any other references to AVGN being mentioned outside the U.S.? If so, I will integrate them. I have all the references on the AVGN website. Have a great day. - DevinCook 21:43, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Characters of Firefly

Recently you contibuted to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Derrial Book. There is now an ongoing discussion stemming from that AfD here if you wish to contribute. ]

Who's 4chan?

Hi, saw your message. Who the heck is 4chan? It looks like a bunch of people tried to vandalize my page all at the same time.

Anyway, I haven't been active for a week - except for posting on a "Political views of Ron Paul" talk page that I thought it was a very slanted article and needed balance.

So, who knows? Maybe the Ron Paul stormtroopers are to blame? I've always thought long-winded internet libertarians were capable of anything.

Anyway, yes. If it's no strain on resources, you can just make my userpage indefinitely protected, if you want. Means nobody has to monitor it. And it seems silly that user pages are UNprotected by default anyway, doesn't it? AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 17:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like a fun place. I'd actually be interested in going there. I've got no clue why they'd be gpoing after me, unless, like I said, it was a Ron Paul thing. Then again, I have no clue why groups of people would join together to vandalize Misplaced Pages. Like, they obviously aren't having a contest. Oh well. I still think userpages should be permanently semi-protected as a matter of course.... If you don't like that, then maybe just prtect it for a month or something. I dunno. I'm not even here much now. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 19:25, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

AFD

Another admin requested that I nominate them for AFD instead. I am confused now, cuz your comment seemed like a threat. I don't like threats. "I am a brash new admin" - sounds a bit like a threat, maybe since you are a "new" admin you should start to be more polite to people that are taking another admins suggestions. Ejfetters 20:59, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

• Ok understand the issue of nom. so many. I am going to remove the AFD that I was working on earlier, and condense them down to smaller groups and not all at once. I already listed one of minor characters from Enterprise, and then after that will continue that way. Ejfetters 22:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Exploding head

An article that you have been involved in editing, Exploding head, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Exploding head. Thank you.

I think I may have overridden your rm. of a post to my talk page, in the process of responding to it and resolving an edit conflict in the process. If your intent was to delete the whole thread, feel free to do so again (incl. my response). — SMcCandlish ‹(-¿-)› 10:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Request

You're the only admin here I know, so I'd like to get your opinion the recent edits to the article about Dice control. According to User:GusChiggins21's latest edit, he wants to have an edit war. You can review the discussion on the talk page there too if you have time. Rather than get into an edit war, I though I'd get another editor's opinion. My feeling is that this user is being intentionally disruptive at this point, but I could be wrong. Would appreciate any feedback or help you could provide. Rray 05:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Creeps

I am sorry for failing to follow up on the majoredit tag on the creep AfD. Another !keep on the basis of the concept's significance in its field rather than one game's peculiarity could have swayed the outcome. --Kizor (talk) 03:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I am no wikipedia expert but isn't there some way to appeal the decision? I hate how i can't comment any further on the article for deletion page either... The guy below be says two incorrect statements:

People are "delete" crazy to rid wikipedia of unencyclopedic content that has latched itself onto the encyclopedia like a leech.

The very definition of the word encyclopedic is comprehensive. So maybe i don't understand how it is "uncomprehensive" to have more information.

With regard to this article, there would have to be many references to justify its notability, otherwise its notability extends just to Warcraft and the games that have copied its use of Creeps.

I think i made a case that the concept of creeps are used in many RTS games now. As the article did refer to several other games.

Maybe i just don't understand the deletion "policy", i understand you can't have articles about your pet cat or whatever, but what is the big deal here? i think wikipedia is better off with the creeps article... it's not like its a paper encyclopedia. The more information the better, because right now that information is gone. okay done ranting... :) Spazm 14:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

biological issues in Jurassic Park

I am on holiday for the next few weeks. While I'm here, I have access to a faster internet connection then my usual much-hated dial-up. This means I can help with the referancing on biological issues in Jurassic Park. T.Neo (talk) 12:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey! Im here to help! T.Neo (talk) 07:23, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

You dont mind adding the referance thingy to the article do you? I am a bit new with stuff like that. Then I can do the rest of the editing by drawing on what I have in the book. T.Neo (talk) 17:03, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Never Mind. Its fine. I got it right in the end. T.Neo (talk) 17:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Research

Hi Kizor,

I sent you an e-mail yesterday about participating in an interview for my undergraduate thesis, and I just wanted to make sure you got it. I'd love it if you'd be able to participate!

Jkomoros (talk) 14:44, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Game guides

The last time I can recall using that was in reference to a game article in which the location of power ups was specifically listed, and such things as what power ups do, where they are, and tricks to get them was 95% of the article. I stand by that assessment of the article as game guide. ThuranX (talk) 14:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Semantics

I understand your concern, but I don't agree about the rate of PRODding articles. You say that PRODding articles quickly doesn't allow other editors the chance to determine if the content can be fixed, but all someone has to do is remove the PROD and there is no deadline anymore. Unfortunately, this very rarely (if ever) leads to the improvement of the article with out-of-universe information, at least in my experience. I do like to work with other projects in hopes they can control their own content. I have left a couple of messages at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Warhammer 40,000 regarding the excessive articles that fall under that project, rather than a mass-PROD or mass-AFD approach. (I may have PRODded a few, but not very many).

Regarding the application of the "game guide" label, you'll notice on the article in question, Descent Freespace Terran fighters, that my main issue in the PROD was notability, and that I listed game guide content as a secondary concern. I stand by that statement, as the deleted article had lists of craft specifications (Craft: Apollo, Manufacturer: Han-Ronald Corporation, Class: Superiority, Gun Control: 4 2x2, etc.) that would only be useful to players of the game. That is absolutely game guide content. Pagrashtak 14:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikiinfo

Thanks for the comment - however, I didn't miss that - I just didn't agree with it, the subject doesn't merit an individual article - maybe a line or two in another article about wiki development or the history of wikipedia, but that's it. --Fredrick day (talk) 17:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

The Western Air Temple

The page is still protected from editing and is locked into a version with obvious mistakes. —UTSRelativity (talk) 22:46, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

It took me for a moment to notice, but I fixed that after you started typing the message. :P Thanks for writing that, though, if I hadn't picked it up it might have taken a while. Have at it. --Kizor (talk) 22:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

AVGN Talkpage

Is there a way to have the talkpage on the new Angry Video Game Nerd article unprotected? --Mooshykris (talk) 05:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes. It turned out to be on a list of automatically prohibited pages from last March. Since the situation then is no longer applicable and the protection was disrupting legitimate editing, I removed it. --Kizor (talk) 14:41, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Vasa (ship) at FAC

Since you've shown interest or made some contributions to Vasa (ship), I'd like to notify you that it has been nominated as an FAC. Your insights and comments would be much appreciated there.

Peter 14:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

UaW

Can you at least make your paragraph sound nicer plz

You made it sound like UaW is a rip-off of everything(which is kinda true, I admit) but we're trying to sell the game here

don't you agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.112.120.34 (talk) 15:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Closing request

Sorry, I've never closed an AfD. I agree that the nominations are very close, but I imagine the right outcome will come from the new AfD debate. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 09:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I found some more experienced admins to look into that particular user (the perpetual AfD nominator). User:FT2 left a rather lengthy post on User talk:Pilotbob. I encourage you to take a look. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

RE: Your Image uploads

If you can do this, go ahead. Fangz of Blood 19:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Joyeux Noël

I just want to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Merry Christmas! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 21:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Harry Potter newspapers and magazines

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Exploding head

Thanks for your note. It's useful to get informative feedback, and I will certainly bear it in mind. The article as written came across as a personal theory with some refs attached to try to justify it. I think it could work if re-thought. The trick is to start with the info in reliable sources, use only that material, and reference very tightly, so it is clear that everything is taken from a secondary source rather than OR. Good luck! Tyrenius (talk) 16:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Ongoing RPG notability/AfD situation

Hi, Kizor. Was wondering if you wouldn't mind reading my take on this situation around here of late, with all the AfD stuff going on in the RPG sector. My user page article is here. Thanks in advance. Compsword01 (talk) 22:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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re: AVGN and other nonsense

Hey there.

I absoutely agree with a lot of what you're saying. I'm still figuring out what is appropriate for AfD, CSD and whatnot and I'm learning to leave my New Pages Patrol mode behind when I'm evaluating established articles, and do a more thorough job of researching. Now that I'm finally home from school (my trip took over a week, family in the hospital - long story), I can actually concentrate more on Misplaced Pages skills. I just remember articles on James Rolfe and AVGN being deleted several times through both CSD and AfD when I contributed annonymously over the past few months, and I went into "NP Patrol Policy Mode" and thought CSD: Repost, but better take it to AfD just in case. Well, now I know not to do that (or at least without some more through research with other editors and utilization of the talk page.

Anywho, remember that I'm fairly new, and with more experience I'm sure that I'll be more keen in time to what to submit for deletion, and what not to. Rest assured that I don't beleive that AfD is trivial, and I will assume better faith next time on the behalf of the article's author.

Cheers, Mr Senseless (talk) 17:17, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:On the nature of Misplaced Pages

I will not be mass-AFDing articles as I feel more can be achieved by discussing possible changes to the current policy related to the articles. I also have doubts that any AFD attempt would succeed due to the nature of the mechanism, involved. However, I do still believe that a lot of articles, especially science fiction and television programme-related, would be better off in specialist Wikis than this one But, as I said, I will be taking a look at how policy may be able to be improved rather than nominating anything for deletion (barring anything I would have nominated anyway, which isn't much) at this time. Regards Whitstable (talk) 20:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

My issue with specialist Wikis is where does it end? One of the great things about WP is its comprehensiveness. Will we hive off other wikis? Religion-wiki, Politics-wiki etc.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

The deletionist rampage

It may be acceptable because it is policy, however please read Misplaced Pages:Gaming the system which suggests using policies and guidelines in order to gain the upper hand and twhart others on wikipedia. Blueanode (talk) 21:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello =

Congratulations on your adminship. I know we aren't going to agree on a lot of things, but thanks for the story!! Pilotbob (talk) 02:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

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Deletionism

Oh so its okay that the other users can go around and nominate articles for that reason? but I can't, I actually read WP:FICT and I now agree with the in-universe style and notability guidelines, I have not retired and infact I plan to stay for a long time. Blueanode (talk) 16:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)