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RfC Circumcision

Sorry to bother you, but I've been responding to the RfC on Talk:Circumcision. And the only person responding has not been fun. Am I just beating my head against a wall (as in is this a dead issue/steam attempt to push POV)? If other editors have come to the conclusion that things are ok the way they stand, I'm going to disengage from the quibbling over whether or not UN/WHO terminology is biased. Your input on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to respond here or on my talk page. Thank you.Phyesalis (talk) 02:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Criticism of Islam wikiproject

I have proposed a new wikiproject and was thinking you might want to join Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Criticism_of_Islam --Java7837 (talk) 14:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Sudais

Ur Welcome. Regards Muhammad Mahdi Karim (talk) 17:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi there

Do you remember that I asked you to perform a range block on range (87.167.xxx.x)? (User talk:Avraham/Archive 17#Range blocking)

Well it appears they are using a new range. I've checked here and found that they are from Germany, the same as AFI-PUNK. Using common sense, a IP user who; appears out of the blue; starts making the same edits; uses the same typography in edit summaries (here); and uses the same kind of broken english (as they are German here) definitely suggests that this is also AFI-PUNK (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Today is their second spree of vandalism using this IP range.

I didn't want to bring this up prematurely, but if it does indeed seem like they have been assigned a different IP range, then the range block on the other range should be lifted to prevent collateral damage on other users. However, taking into account that it's only been two days, they could be at a library or a friend's house to avoid the block on their own range, so lifting the range block might not be suitable yet. This is only the second time they have vandalised using that IP address.

I just wanted to keep you posted as the blocking admin :)

IP's so far:

• 79.211.98.149 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 15:50, 21 November 2007
• 79.211.89.28 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:21, 22 November 2007

Cheers, Seraphim 17:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

OTRS issue

Hello. I'm contacting you because you are listed as a user with OTRS access. User Londo06 (talk · contribs) has filed OTRS permission for a number of his image uploads, but the images in question are incorrectly tagged – they include both a non-free and GFDL tag. If you have time, can you take a look at the OTRS ticket and confirm that the images have been cleared for use by an OTRS volunteer, and fix the licensing details for these images accordingly?

The affected images:

• Image:ScottHill.jpg
• Image:TyroneSmith.jpg
• Image:Purdham.jpg
• Image:BillPeden.jpg
• Image:TonyRea.jpg
• Image:BrianMcDermott.jpg
• Image:Worrincy.jpg
• Image:JonWells.jpg
• Image:JoeWalshQuins.jpg
• Image:Tootill.jpg
• Image:Temata.jpg
• Image:PaulSykes.jpg
• Image:Sheriffe.jpg
• Image:ChadRandall.jpg
• Image:HenryPaul.jpg
• Image:DannyOrr.jpg
• Image:McLinden.jpg
• Image:Mbu.jpg
• Image:LeeHopkins.jpg
• Image:Heckenberg.jpg
• Image:Grayshon.jpg
• Image:Gafa.jpg
• Image:Clubb.jpg
• Image:McCarthyScarsbroook.jpg
• Image:Melling.jpg

Thanks for your consideration. --Muchness (talk) 02:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Classification of admins

Hi Avraham. Please consider adding your admin username to the growing list at Classification of admins. Best! -- Jreferee t/c 23:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:Jewish politicians, etc.

Hello Avraham and Eliyak,

I am contacting both of you for two reasons: First, to bring to your attention the change I made to Category:Jewish politicians, and second to ask for your assistance in proceeding with the next step.

In scoping out my further response to the CFD discussion that is under way for Category:Jewish politicians (and Category:Jewish American politicians), I immediately saw that Category:Israeli politicians was shown as a sub-cat. As you both understand, that is almost right, but not quite. Since both of you were recently involved in dealing with this issue, I thought you would like to know what I've done. My interim solution was to remove Category:Israeli politicians as a sub-cat, but also to post a prominent cross-link at the top of the page.

So now the question is, how best to finish the job? At this point, every Israeli politician needs to be placed in his/her appropriate category, either Category:Jewish Israeli politicians or Category:Arab Israeli politicians. (I don't think anybody falls outside of those two groups.) Arab Israeli politicians are few enough that I can take care of them myself, but I could really use some help with the Jewish Israeli politicians. Unless this task can be assigned to a bot, they will all need to be done manually.

Please respond on my talk page so our discussion proceeds in one place. Thank you! Regards, Cgingold 21:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello again, Avraham. I hope you will find time to share your thoughts on this issue. Eliyak has already responded, and I have given a reply, but I am holding off on creating Category:Jewish Israeli politicians as I would like to hear from you before proceeding. Cgingold 02:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I have responded to you reply, please have a look. Cgingold 18:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Froyen

The person behind the CV requested that his pesonal information be removed from Misplaced Pages. I have done so. Thank you. -- Avi 18:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I could not get you. --Bhadani (talk) 10:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

You had a person's CV posted in your talk archive (#25). That person contacted OTRS and requested that his information be removed. I deleted it off of your archive, and left you a note as to why I made changes to your talk archives. -- Avi (talk) 14:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Fine. Thanks. --Bhadani (talk) 15:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Anna Slotky

Shalom ubracha! I am curious to know why you believe the article Anna Slotky should be deleted? She is a notable actress and had many leading roles in many famous movies and TV shows. Sincerely, Bstone (talk) 20:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Instead of nominating the article for deletion, perhaps tag it for proper copy editing? Bstone (talk) 20:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Isarig

Regarding the topic ban, do the articles Canadian Islamic Congress and Basic Laws of Israel fall under its scope? I have asked Isarig myself on his talk page (his answer is here) after seeing one of the edits in my watchlist. Your thoughts? Tiamut 23:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Comfort

Hi,

I never said anything about being "uncomfortable", as you accuse me of being here. You are only imagining this. I have brought up a possible violation of WP:BLP, and I expect your response on the talk page before you restore the contentious unsourced info.

Bless sins (talk) 04:50, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Spinka

Can you please take a look at this it's talk page, and this. Thank you--Shmaltz (talk) 03:27, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

RS or not

Can we please get your input here Talk:Naftali_Tzvi_Weisz#VIN_as_a_source? Thank you.--Shmaltz (talk) 05:21, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Protect?

Did you intend to protect Barbara Schwarz when you created it? Picaroon (t) 15:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

RE:Hamas

I don't believe Jerusalem and Hamas should be compared; Jerusalem was ruled by the Arabs of Palestine for centuries and till today there are hundreds of thousands of Palestinians living there. It is a claimed capital by the PNA and the international community does recognize Israel's annexation of Jerusalem's eastern portion. Hamas on the other hand is a political party and militant group that could be compared to the Likud or the IDF. Then should WikiProject Palestine add Likud, Kadima and the IDF and WikiProject Israel add Fatah, the Palestinian People's Party and the Preventive Security Service to their Project? --Al Ameer son (talk) 06:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I referred to Hamas as both a political party and a militant group. Anyhow, as far this entire discussion goes, I really apologize. Now that I think of it, its actually pretty ridiculous to have removed a project tag from any article that has a major relation to the Project's main topic - especially without any consensus from fellow Project members. Hope theres no tension between us, cheers and have a happy New Year! --Al Ameer son (talk) 06:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, of course, so I guess in that case have a happy Gregorian New Years! --Al Ameer son (talk) 06:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Wright93

I would advise you NOT to edit my homepage! --J.Wright (talk) 12:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

M.K. Perker

I have been away for a few days, please can you fill me in to what happened with Kutlukhan Perker?, I am well aware now that it should be M.K. Perker, but I got "Kutlukhan Perker" from this website, and assumed that since the amount of people that I have met who have names made up of 2 letters in a initial format is currently 0 that his real name is most likely Kutlukhan Perker. To sum up, apart from the title was there anything fundamentally wrong with the article?--Kerotan Have a nice day :) 22:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Userpage

I noted that you were very active in getting the Hezbollah userbox banned. What do you about this user page (see fifth quote, 'show me just what...')?Bless sins (talk) 08:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Responded on editor's talk page. -- Avi (talk) 14:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

RE: Nicholas Winset AFD

Question, (And I honestly mean this as a question. I'm not trying to challenge anything, just interested in becoming more informed with this sort of issue.) I was under the impression that if it was a foundation issue, those dealling in that area could take action without the need for consensus on AFD. Or is it that the complaints are of note, but not to the level that require that form of official action. (I originally was going to reply on the afd thread, but decided it might be cluttering it with something that doesn't belong there. Hope that's ok.)--Cube lurker (talk) 20:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Warning

do not close Afd's which aren't yours. once i have seconded a nomination it is no more yours to close before one week. thanks--יודל (talk) 13:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes i did so before u closed it--יודל (talk) 13:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

See yudel's talk page. -- Avi (talk) 13:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Please stay on issue here, on my talk page there is non re this issue. U closed a AFD after i seconded it and u even tried to say that u may because u r an admin, this is wrong and u cannot do it. since u use a power against others who don't have it while u are involved in the difference of opinion with that user--יודל (talk) 13:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

See yudel's talk page. -- Avi (talk) 13:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

There is nothing there re this issue, just see that Avi tries to influence his opinion on wikipedia by brandishing his Admin tools this is wrong.--יודל (talk) 13:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Avi has followed policy. Stop harassing him. Seraphim 13:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

No he has not if 2 people nominate an article for deletion one cannot say its only my nomination. both have to retract it. and i didn't--יודל (talk) 13:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

See yudel's talk page -- Avi (talk) 13:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Why would he tell u this million times? it comes to show the real issue here that he wants u to ignore this talk page, i would like somebody to look here and tell me if i am wrong.--יודל (talk) 13:59, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

See yudel's talk page . -- Avi (talk) 14:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I have no problem answering on my talk my page. but the issue should also be on your talk page since this isnt the first time we have this issue with u.--יודל (talk) 14:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

speedy delete?

Hi, here I would consider a snowball rule just for the mercy of the user, who is apparently stressed and sparing him further comments and deletion requests may be reasonable (this is also a reason why I don't vote). Pundit|utter 19:47, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

and thanks for the nice followup :) Pundit|utter 15:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:2001 ed The International Jew by Henry Ford.jpg

Please see WP:NFURG. A non-free image requires a separate rationale for each article in which it is used, as the purpose of each use is different. —Angr 23:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Potentially disruptive edits

Sorry, I don't see how these user boxes fall under those policies. I thought all userbox templates were deleted anyway as part of the German Userbox solution. If not, I'll just file at DRV. -- Kendrick7 03:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'm confused whether DRV can help or not here, so I've asked for more feedback at the AN/I discussion. I don't think we can ban user space support for political parties, and you should know better. -- Kendrick7 04:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

You can fool some of the people some of the time, but, you might recall, Hezbollah disarmed after the that little spat with Israel a few summers back. Hence that lack of Israel still bombing them. I've kinda been following the history of the Israel-Lebanon conflict, ya know. -- Kendrick7 04:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks -- I really haven't been paying attention I guess. I'll have to update the article tomorrow. -- Kendrick7 05:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Being offended

I wasn't offended by you, but rather Bless Sins opinion. Perhaps a momentary lapse, as the feeling has now passed, but for a minute there I was certain I could perhaps walk around forever and for always being offended by all sorts of other peoples opinions and beliefs. Is it worth it? -- Kendrick7 08:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Your "note"

Do not place templates on my talk page. You're adding multiple tags to a page that already has a tag on it, and it's disfiguring. You're trying to add citation templates in violation of WP:CITE, because there has been an objection. The article is about to undergo a copyedit to shorten it by the sounds of several people on talk, and therefore this is not a good time to muck around with the citations. And please keep this on article talk only. SlimVirgin 16:20, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Responded on user's talk page (check the history as responses were removed). -- Avi (talk) 16:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Barbara Schwarz

After seeing this, I deleted this page and protected it from creation because we haven't used templates for salting for over a year now, and I thought you had not realized it is now possible to protect pages directly from creation. Afterward, I saw in the log that you had previously protected it from creation, and then changed that to a protected blank page with no explanation; is there any particular reason this page should exist? —Random832 16:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Like I said, I've already done this; I just thought I should check with you since you were the one who originally protected it. Having it as a red link is probably better for BLP since then it won't show up at all in search engines. —Random832 16:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The protect tab now works for nonexistent pages - You actually did it once, according to the log, maybe you didn't know you did it (or maybe you didn't know it worked, as until today Mediawiki:titleprotectedwarning was pretty weak). —Random832 17:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Userbox

Sorry, you are having to face these "supports violent aggression" userbox users alone. --Matt57 19:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Question

I changed my vote from oppose to neutral in an RfA. Should I move my vote (and ensuing thread) to the neutral section of the page? (I'll also state explicitly that I've changed it, which I forgot to do.) Thanks --Coppertwig (talk) 23:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry -- I don't usually ask this many questions. But here's another one: On the page The Underland Chronicles about a fiction book, there are some prophecies (like longish poems) that I'm pretty sure need to be deleted as copyright violations. But I'm not sure exactly how much to delete. Can very short poems be kept? What about the translations/interpretations of some of the prophecies? Maybe I should just be bold and delete stuff but I thought I'd ask someone for advice first. --Coppertwig (talk) 03:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

NAS citations

Hey Avi, are you converting all the cites? <<-armon->> (talk) 03:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

re: Canberra guy

Thanks for blocking that guy. Do you think the message on my user page is feeding the trolls, should I take it down? <eleland/talkedits> 07:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Avraham

Why have you blocked user 124.191.88.235?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Adon Emett (talk • contribs) 06:59, January 11, 2008 (UTC)

OTRS ticket on Randi

Why did you add an OTRS ticket note on the top of Talk:James Randi? It pertains to a vandalism attempt that lasted six minutes, and in the context of the individual, was about as believable as "James Randi is a poop master." Having it there without context confused me, and it feels like a vicious slur in itself by implying that the claim is serious enough it had to be defended against.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)