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Christian Martial Art

Thanks for going through his other pages and reviewing them for CSD criteria. I didnt even think of doing that for some reason. RogueNinja_talk 19:00, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

That's why I'm here! --Smashville 19:02, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Daniel Malakov

At Misplaced Pages:Deletion_review/Log/2007_December_24#Daniel_Malakov you wrote

I'm having an issue with the nominator's accusations of bad faith against admins for doing their duties as admins. And with the essay length responses. Be concise, please. --SmashvilleBONK! 23:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I would appreciate it if you would kindly explain

• Why do you believe that Misplaced Pages Administrators should be immune from legitimate criticism? Do you have any sources to support this point of view?
• Why do you believe that a cogent set of arguments must, a priori, be concise? While brevity is the soul of wit, should not Misplaced Pages emphasize accuracy at its expense?
• Since you entered into this discussion of your own accord, I do not think it out-of-line to ask the origin of your UserID "SmashvilleBONK!" which seems to connote a violence act. Do you believe that there is a place for violence among Administrators on Misplaced Pages, perhaps figuratively? Do the ends justify the means?

Eileivgyrt (talk) 14:56, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

• Response at DRV. --Smashville 16:36, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for the explanation... at User:Eileivgyrt; you have to admit it sounds edgy.

Eileivgyrt (talk) 21:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Deaths in 2007

• i don't think reversion of vandalism is covered by WP:3RR, actually. cheers, tomasz. 18:29, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
  • No, but I don't think alphabetical order constitutes "obvious" vandalism...although the edit summary kinda does show there's no intent of stopping. I'm only reporting User:Simion Eugen-Andrei, Bucharest, Romania. --Smashville 18:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
    • i see your point. thanks for your judgement, and i will take more care of it in future. tomasz. 18:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
      • There's never a problem if you're working in good faith, which you obviously were. It's also obvious he's making bad faith reverts... --Smashville 18:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Wednesday Night Drinking Crew

Hello i was curious about the SpD set on the WNDC Article

The reason below is why I personally think it should be included, It truly is all that I say.

I am a representative of the MBAHA. Though this is my first entry and I'm not sure if im even doing it correctly or what needs to be done to establish this group in world history. Like I state below it is a huge part of the Myrtle Beach economy and many notable persons in the area are members, and they also start and coordinate fund raisers for High Schools and County affairs. Also it's 854+ members strong, their meetings usually involve around 175-200 members in attendance.

Please respond and let me know how i can improve the page.

• This page should not be deleted because enough though it does not have a notable effect of the entire history of the world, it does for the population and economy of the Myrtle Beach area. It supports family, social, and personal affairs. You even must be apart of the hospitality industry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fivesecondrule (talk • contribs) 06:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Well, for starters, it didn't even remotely explain how it was notable. Honestly, though, I highly doubt this page would survive any Misplaced Pages deletion process no matter how well written. --Smashville 06:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Also, recreating it immediately like you just did is probably going to end up getting the page salted. --Smashville 06:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Not trying to doubt your knowledge of Misplaced Pages and it's procedures but seriously there is not one single organization or group that is localy operated listed on WP?? Also i really didn't try to recreate it but when i was editing it, there was a notice saying it didn't exist. I thought i was suspposed to click the recreate to enable my editing —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fivesecondrule (talk • contribs) 06:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
      • There are tons, but you haven't even asserted that it's notable. --Smashville 07:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
      • Well there is alot that I'm not really able to put in at one sitting, especially since it keeps being deleted, can you at least post-pone deletion for a week or so?

But as stated how is being a "huge part of the Myrtle Beach economy and many notable people in the area are members, and they also start and coordinate fund raisers for High Schools and County affairs." not notable?

What do the other organizations have listed? They certainly contribute loads to the city and the people who live in it. By the way i do appreciate the speedy response and help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fivesecondrule (talk • contribs) 07:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

• Misplaced Pages has over two million entries, but they all have to pass the Misplaced Pages notability standards. --Smashville 20:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

WPPP-LP

FCC licensing is not mentioned here. What else makes it notable? - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 18:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

• WP:OUTCOMES says that licensed stations are seen as notable if they have original programming...WP:WPRS has several debates over the notability of LP stations. CSD A7 says it doesn't apply to controversial deletions. --Smashville 20:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Agreed. I won't push for speedy; and I'll wait until notability criteria can be presented by the author. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 20:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Landaluce

Why thank you! I don't often receive compliments...much the reverse. But I agree, when I saw her missing, I got to work. As a horse lover, Landaluce should not be forgotten.JiggeryPokery (talk) 18:22, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Wenonah Article

Thanks for fixing it up. Try to keep me posted on the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 5dsddddd (talk • contribs) 00:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• I can't guarantee it will get kept, but I think I gave it enough context so it won't be speedy deleted. --Smashville 00:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Heh, Smashville, just before I got your message I was thinking "I better take this to AFD." Beat me there! JetLover (talk) (Report a mistake) 01:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

A7 and schools

Thanks for stating that schools aren't part of A7 - I've been trying to go over all the policies really carefully and I guess there's still a lot that I've missed. Pnswmr (talk) 01:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• It was actually a recent change...so you can't really be blamed for missing it. --Smashville 01:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Powercore

In response to me not being the original author and such, please see this edit, where the original author indeed did request the article's deletion. ≈ The Haunted Angel 00:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I see you reverted your edit - sorry for the slow response! ≈ The Haunted Angel 00:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Ha...yeah...I felt kinda dumb when I saw that... --Smashville 02:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

I Am Sorry, I Thought That Victoria Planned to release the album and i will quit now sorry. thanks x —Preceding unsigned comment added by Girls alouds biggest fan (talk • contribs) 05:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• Considering how many times you've been told to stop, I'm sorry if I have a hard time believing that. --Smashville 05:24, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I Know, But I Just Want To Create Sourced Articles

I Don't Mean To Be A Pain, but I Try to source my article like i sourced all my Victoria Beckham Articles , but I Don't Understand Why People Delete It. Also I Want To Be A Journalist, so your lucky to be one :P. So I'm Sorry if i've been doing something wrong x. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Girls alouds biggest fan (talk • contribs) 05:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

If you want to create sourced articles, then you need to abide by the rules laid down for notability and verification. You have been told why they are being deleted - they are not verifiable! And this is hardly journalism... ~~ 05:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Seen as i am only 13, I think that it helps me improve my journalism :P —Preceding unsigned comment added by Girls alouds biggest fan (talk • contribs) 05:47, 9 January 2008

• Creating hoaxes isn't going to help you with anything. Also - I'm sure you didn't mean to, but your signature should absolutely not link to another user's talk page. --Smashville 05:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
• By relying on some blog written by some completely random person with no verifiable credentials? I'm afraid this isn't going to help your journalism at all, and neither does your persistent re-creation of previously deleted articles or the vandalism and removal of tags on those pages. ~~ 05:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

roller skating ninjas

why are my "roller-skating ninja" posts being deleted? this one you have tagged now is a link to another wiki article! if i can't use your own site to verify something that what can i use?! you guys are being ridiculous. "Shat" has its own wikipedia page... why are you deleting all of the time i am putting in to setting up one for "roller-skating ninjas"?!?!?! Briansantamaria (talk) 05:37, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• You created a blank page. It's still blank right now. --Smashville 05:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

help, pls with something important

There really is the Pinsky Phenomenon in mathematics. I am not making it up. Refererences provided. So many researchers use it. Help me keep this. It is mathematically imprortant. AmeliaElizabeth (talk)

I'm not sure what the problem is. It's not under deletion consideration at the moment. I'd help...but math isn't my strong suit. --Smashville 00:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

James Barnett

Hey! Why do you keep deleting Ryan Davis' name from the article? He did break the story before anyone else. He even wrote the article in the Houston Voice about it. I'm not sure how you consider that not relevant to the story. Do you think Bob Woodward is not relevant to Watergate? TheatreKid01 (talk) 22:20, 14 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheatreKid01 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

That's not even close to Watergate. It's an article about a person that you keep putting your own name into. --Smashville 23:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Ryan wrote the very first article on James... http://www.houstonvoice.com/2004/12-17/news/localnews/school.cfm. Please explain how that isn't relevent? TheatreKid01 (talk) 00:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Because the article isn't about him. Adding the reference is fine...adding the credentials and the name of the reporter is not. The reporter has nothing to do with the story. He reported the facts of something that happened...it wasn't investigative journalism and the reporter is not part of the story. --Smashville 00:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

How can you say it wasn't investigative journalism? I actually sorta feel that is was... TheatreKid01 (talk) 00:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

The point is...the story is the kid getting kicked out of school. Not the reporter reporting that the kid got kicked out of school. The kid sought out the press - he even contacted the ACLU - the reporter didn't discover anything. It's not appropriate to add his name to the article. Especially when it was continuously added by the reporter himself last week while he was trying to create a page about himself. --Smashville 00:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Smashville - Actually, James didn't seak out the press. Davis contacted him before he even considered going public. It was the notgeniuses article, reprinted the next week in the houston voice, that lead to further media coverage. In addition, Davis asked his readers to contact James' school and local media to force them to cover the story. I'm not the one trying to rewrite history here.

I updated the Ryan Davis page to show more notability. I'm not quite sure what else you're looking for not to delete it. Please advise. TheatreKid01 (talk) 19:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

If you can find a reliable secondary source in which he is the primary subject. I mean, if he's notable, then by all means, he's notable...he just doesn't look notable per Misplaced Pages standards. See WP:V. I'll help you look for sources, but since you have more knowledge of the subject, you are going to be more likely to find them. Please don't mistake my removals as point of view or rudeness or anything of that nature. Just - to me - it doesn't seem to meet Misplaced Pages notability standards. --Smashville 22:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Smashville - Thanks for your help on this. I do appreciate it. I've already referenced a feature on Davis from The Washington Post. Also, I've linked to two of his appearances on CNN, MSNBC, Good Morning America, and Primetime Live. I've also linked to interviews from Radar Magazine (Print), The Advocate (Print), Fox News, and Broadway World (highest ranked theatre news site). I've also linked to a front page feature he received from Gay City News (Print), the most read gay newspaper in the country. That's quite a few sources and I'd hope some of them are considered reliable. If you need more, I can find additional mentions in the NY Times, or whatever. But, I feel like you still won't be impressed.

Mr. Davis has received these media mentions not from one project, but from several. So, he's not just "known for one event." The odd thing is that there are people listed in Wiki whose best credits are writing a song for Mr. Davis' White Noise. How can he not be notable, but someone who wrote a song for him (http://en.wikipedia.org/Pasek_and_paul) somehow have this magical notability even with zero references or no real credits? 69.86.53.254 (talk) 22:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

The above is me, sorry - forgot to sign in. TheatreKid01 (talk) 22:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I am withdrawing the deletion nomination for the time being. You've at least cast enough doubt for me to give you some time to see what you can do. --Smashville 22:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Smashville - Thanks for your fairness. I'll be adding a little more to the entry tomorrow. I am curious, how do I make the reference list in 2 columns instead of one super long one? Is there a special tag? Thanks again! - TheatreKid01 (talk) 23:27, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

A mini-meetup in Nashville

User:LaraLove/Bathrobe Cabal/Meetup. Good times are to be had. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Silky Sullivan

This article was almost the first I ever contributed to wikipedia and I'll admit I was more than a bit enthusiastic. I still am. It does need dampening down for wiki purposes, and I've occasionally looked at it with a mind to doing just that. But I can't. I'm too involved with the subject. Therefore to have someone else do it is a relief and I thank you. JiggeryPokery (talk) 19:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Redlinked Winners

I read your comments at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Thoroughbred racing#Redlinked Winners. Have you finished doing the stubs on whatever ones you changed? Handicapper (talk) 15:16, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deleted all the redirects instead. --Smashville 18:21, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Get a life you animal fucker

Shut up you fucking nigger. Fuck off and shit your pants full of all the shit you can fill them with. 144.131.176.126 (talk) 07:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)