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Citation

"According to the LA Times, the news station promotes Falun Gong and receives large sums of donations from the organization each year. NTDTV has aired some of the most ridiculous events hosted by their supporters, especially when Li Hongzhi claimed that he could fly into the sky near his home in Chicago, Illinois. However, he did not succeed and blaimed the failure on the poor weather. (The Los Angeles Times, Mar.19,2004)"

I added "according to" a few days ago when I first saw this because I was rather incredulous. I also could not find this in the LA Times when I searched. I have several reasons for disbelieving the accuracy of this citation.

First, NTDTV may be run largely by practitioners, but Falun Gong and NTDTV are institutionally separate. Funding sources I know of for NTDTV are ads and its yearly gala. If any Falun Gong association really gave NTDTV money, I find it difficult to believe there was not a business reason for it, as practitioners also know the Epoch group media to be separate (financially and organizationally) from Falun Gong, and would know to treat them as such. This citation does not address any such reasoning, or explain alternate reasoning.

Second, Li Hongzhi lives in New York, not Chicago.

Third, according to the principles Li teaches, supernormal abilities are not to be displayed in public. In teaching Falun Dafa, I know of no exceptions made for his own except for a few conventions and fairs and such where he and some practitioners had a booth for qigong healing in order to promote Falun Dafa. Attempts like this one to displaying a supernormal ability make no sense.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.75.247.239 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

AAP article

http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2007/3/28/83983.html --just keeping useful references.--Asdfg12345 19:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Warning to Asdfg to not undo other's edit

Asdfg, you have undone many of my edit, only to fail in defending your reason. If you unilatterally make undo/archive/move my edit without good reason, I will lodge a complaint agains you.

The edit I'm about to make in this page pertains to NTDTV's affaliation with Falun Gong. This fact is documented by the US Congress (ref: Thomas Lum's CRS report, page CRS-8.)

If you touch my edit I will file a complaint against you!!! Bobby fletcher (talk) 09:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I am really sorry to have caused you grief, I have only undone your edits when they violated wikipedia policies. What you did there is fine--that is a sourced statement. I am just against you breaking wikipedia policies, and spamming talk pages, but I think apart from that you are bringing a unique contribution to wikipedia, and I will not criticise you for that.--Asdfg12345 11:12, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Disputing Asdfg's baseless accusation of "breaking Misplaced Pages policies", "spamming talk pages"

I deny your accusations and demand you produce evidence to support your accusation. Bobby fletcher (talk) 19:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Suspect Bad Faith Editing, seeking RfC

Asdfg, why did you, once again, blank out the fact NTDTV is affiliated with Falun Gong. Now this article is, again like your other blaking, void of this fact. This is not the first time you have done this. If you don't like the wording there are better ways to fix it than blanking out relevant fact for the article.

Why are you, as a Falun Gong disciple, so ASHAMED of this fact??? Bobby fletcher (talk) 07:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't blank it. I moved it from the first sentence to a more appropriate place. I actually don't have a problem here. I just thought it looked clumsy the way it was, so I changed it. I thought saying it was founded by practitioners was sufficient to establish the link. I just incorporated both points in that sentence now to make it flow better.--Asdfg12345 20:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes you did blank it out. Here's the proof:

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=New_Tang_Dynasty_TV&diff=187836173&oldid=187181277

As you can see, after your blanking, the article is void of the fact. This is against WP:DE. Please stop Bobby fletcher (talk) 05:10, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh sorry, it was already there. My mistake. I did blank it from the top sentence. The idea was that it was mentioned already and it just looked odd to mention it three times. As I say, I am treating this as any other kind of editorial thing, I´m not concerned about the Falun Gong link. It´s like if I was editing an article on a soccer team, and it mentioned that the lead goalkicker in the team was Bobby Fletcher three times in the introduction. I would just make it mention it once, in context, like this time. Hope you know what I mean.--Asdfg12345 11:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

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