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Great job...

on the shortening of the History section. Regards, -- Jeff3000 05:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

English-speaking Quebecer

Soulscanner, on the talk page of that article, you have broken up what I wrote. I know it is slightly more complicated to respond to what I wrote without breaking it up, but ultimately nobody else will be able to read it this way. Could you please reorganize your reply and restore what I wrote? Joeldl 19:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't bother, I've done it. Please don't break up my comments. Joeldl 20:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Soulscanner, you've messed up the order of comments again. I responded to Mathieugp, so I indented once more than he had. You were also responding to him, therefore you needed to respond below my comments and indent them the same as mine. Joeldl 09:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't know. These talk pages are being abused by us anyways, They're getting way too long. It's just too unwieldy. Feel free to shift things around if you don't like the format. Just don't delete anything.--Soulscanner 04:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Please don't break up other people's comments. That way, nobody will need to move them around. Joeldl 15:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: Proposed move of Canadian French

Greetings! Would you care to weigh in on this proposed move? There's been a lot of discussion, and I apologise in advance for prolixity. :) Merci! Corticopia 12:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Previous comments on your edits to Canadian French

You have deleted a discussion from your talk page that can be found here:

You have moved the discussion that was on your talk page to the talk page of the article. I don't know whether this is appropriate Wikiquette. But I don't think you should remove comments from your talk page. You should instead archive them when your talk page is too long. Joeldl 20:59, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

They were not appropriate here. It was a complete discussion about the Canadian French article, where they belong. --Soulscanner 01:27, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

That conversation is part of the record of discussion of your edits and should be available to people examining your talk page. Joeldl 01:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

The conversation did not belong here. It should havve occured on the talk page for the article. --Soulscanner 01:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

It's not clear to me that it was inappropriate to bring it up on your page. There was a potential POV issue and the fact that you chose to make those edits could be of interest to other editors. Joeldl 01:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I made those edits on the Canadian French page. That is where edits are normally discussed. Anyone interested in those edits can go to the talk page there. People can also check the history page here if interested. I did not delete any material. Personal talk pages are not for long interchanges like this. Your note and link on this page document the move. You're right that I should have indicated that I moved the content, though, so I appreciate you doing the work and providing the link. --Soulscanner 02:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

English-speaking Quebecer

Soulscanner, there is no excuse for removing "citation needed" tags before anybody has had a chance to check the references. You also seem to act like its my responsibility to read the entire reference. Page numbers must be provided. 26,000 "English-speaking Asians" did not come to Quebec. They eventually had English as their first official language spoken. Also, the reference does not say that most Indians, Chinese and Filipino arrivals speak English before coming. Yet you have also removed that fact tag. I removed the Canadian flag because the region with significant numbers is Quebec, practically by definition — no need to accuse me of vandalism. The infobox at California doesn't have a U.S. flag; why then should English-speaking Quebecer?

I was originally inclined to believe that, though you had a definite anti-francophone POV, you would play by the rules in editing. But I now see that that is not the case. In removing the population figures, you went against the majority opinion expressed on the talk page. You are also removing fact tags before I have had a chance to verify the information. You cannot make judgments unilaterally about whether the statements made are accurate reflections of the sources. You also cannot accuse me of vandalism for an edit on which you happen to have a different point of view. Joeldl 13:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I've requested comment on your edits at WP:RFC/HIST. You can respond at Talk:English-speaking Quebecer. Joeldl 20:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Québécois

You have contributed so regularly to Talk:Québécois that I thought you would certainly have noticed the discussion there following a listing at WP:RFC/HIST. I should have left a message about it on your talk page earlier. This is an oversight and I apologize. You are welcome to defend your point of view there. Joeldl 20:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Anglophone exodus

I removed your text from Anglophone exodus and redirected the page to Quebec diaspora. There was no exclusive "Anglophone exodus" from Quebec in the time frame you suggested but a major exodus of Anglophones along with people from various ethic groups and many French Canadians Interprovincial Migration by Language Groups Province of Quebec, 1966-1991. Collectively, it can only be described as a "diaspora". I intend to expand the article as soon as I get a chance but in the meantime, please feel free to add to the text on this subject. Thanks. Phinius T2 18:19, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Neutrality discussion at Quebec article

Exasperating is a good word. Given the amount of reading and research needed I'm sorry to say that it's not worth it. Discussion tends to die off with a lack of resolution anyway. I don't see the Quebec identity article that was supposed to be created last time. –Pomte 14:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Quebec nation issue

Hi! I've noticed you have added to the discussion on Talk:Quebec and, in response to the discussion regarding whether or not Quebec is a nation, I have replied with this. I would like you to read the discussion on the Talk:Quebec page, then read my response and leave your comments on it's talk page! Thanks for your input. Andrew 02:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Canada

Check the Canada page again. Regards, -- 18:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Quebec

I just wanted to comment on your comment "bad faith isn't demonstrated here." I didn't remark that Pgsylv was acting in bad faith, I said that I can't assume good faith from him/her any longer. Pushing a political point is not attempting to add to the Misplaced Pages community in my understanding. That's what I was trying to say. Andrew 06:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I understand. But you have to be careful to assume good faith. There are lots of things wrong here and I'm about ready to go to arbitration with a number of edits here, but accusations like this do not help what is left of the dialogue. --Soulscanner 06:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Understood. I try to avoid POV discussions, but I cannot avoid this person's arrogance. It seems that no matter what is written, this person will not accept anything other than their interpretation. I'll refrain from commenting on this person's opinions from now on. Andrew 06:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Blocked for Harrassment

You seems to have a grudge agaisnt G2bambino. First a vexatious RFAR and secondly a bogus 3RR report about an article he hasn't edited for weeks. This isn't acceptable and you need to leave him alone. He certainly doesn't need provoking right now. Your actions are disruptive and harrassing. I have suspended your editing rights indefinitely. That does not mean forever but rather until you make a clear undertaking to leave G2bambino alone. As soon as you do that you will be unblocked. If I am not around you can use an unblock template and any passing admin will do the unblock. Spartaz 17:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

• having thought about this for a couple of hours I have come to the conclusion that an outright block was OTT without an initial warning. I am therefore unblocking you but please be aware that further disruption and any more bogus reports will not be tolerated. Spartaz 18:16, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I just lifted an autoblock Spartaz 18:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Please Check history page at 3RR page. My reports have been vandalized by G2bambino. They do not reflect what I posted. Your block was in good faith, but terribly mistaken. --soulscanner (talk) 21:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
      • Your block log {http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log&type=block&user=&page=User:Soulscanner] now reflects the fact that I screwed up and that you were the victim of an altered 3RR report. I have indicated that you are fully exonerated and apologised for my error. A note in the block log is more permanent and useful then a talk page note. Thank you for your understanding. Spartaz 22:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
        • Thanks. Really, I know it's not your fault. --soulscanner (talk) 22:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Please keep me out of this. Thanks! - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 22:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Dominion issue et al

Sorry that you are still embroiled in this issue. I have been ignoring it. The antagonists seem to have a unbending POV, are deaf to valid counter-arguments, and one's tired and repetitive ad-hominem arguments should have been censured long ago. The whole thing makes me question the wiki-approach to this encyclopedia but I can only control my own contributions so am ignoring the issue till I feel less passionate about the problem-makers.

As to your question, it was quite a long time ago and I don't recall exactly how I entered. I believe I either saw a Request for comment on the Canadian Wikipedians' notice board or perhaps just noticed a Dominion discussion/change on the Canada page through my watchlist. I don't recall if there was ever anyone brave enough to enter as a mediator or if one was actually requested (though it perhaps should have been done if only to improve the quality of discussion and avoid the ridiculous voting).

If your blood is too boiled by this at the moment, may I make the unrequested suggestion that you take a break from it and return later. The encyclopedia is not worth your health and peace of mind. When you return, remain phlegmatic, keep documentation of abuses, and request help and report when needed.

Cheers! DoubleBlue (Talk) 17:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

No worries! It's an interesting if obscure topic, isn't it?--Gazzster (talk) 20:35, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Autoblock of 216.6.204.62 lifted or expired. Request handled by: - auburnpilot talk 21:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Emergency: Please check Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR History

Please check G2bambino edits at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. The History page shows extensive alterations to posted complaints and decisions (see history page). G2bambino has altered the page to make it appear that my posts were spurious, resulting in User:Spartaz blocking me (in good faith) for harassment. G2bambino then reverted to the old postings. This is a blatant case of vandalism. Please compare following with current page:

• ]Stifle last post before alteration including initial complaints and decisions see link
• Final edit by G2bambino showing altered posts see link

G2bambino deliberately altered my posts to the page with intent to misrepresent them. --soulscanner (talk) 20:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Dealt with. Stifle (talk) 22:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

On further consideration I've referred it over to ANI because I have to go and this is more complicated than I think. Stifle (talk) 22:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. --soulscanner (talk) 22:16, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem. x42bn6 Talk Mess 01:57, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Now, moving back to your AN3 posting. I'm sure you know (at least you should) that 3RR is for reporting extant edit wars and not incidents that came up several months ago. Please bear this in mind as future similar reports will be treated dimly. Stifle (talk) 09:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Will do. --soulscanner (talk) 14:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Canada

Your comment has been read. You have not clearly laid out what the dispute is: you seem to have quite a few of them. Your placement of these tags is nothing but disruptive, and seems to be the result of your unwillingness or inability to compel on relevant talk pages -- as such, I have removed the tag. As well, your contradictory, hypocritical, and malformed behaviour throughout has eroded any good faith there may have been. I have little more to say to you, and will comment as needed. Quizimodo (talk) 18:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Dispute is clearly laid out at dominion page. You've been told the policy. I'm filing an incident report. I won't get the page locked again. Removing tags like this violates wiki policy --soulscanner (talk) 18:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the dispute is on the 'Dominion' page; you have renewed it on the 'Canada' page for dubious reasons. Spare me the condescension: file whatever report you wish -- I will respond appropriately. Quizimodo (talk) 18:37, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

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Dominion Mediation

It appears Quizimodo isn't going to get involved with Mediation. Since this is basically a Soulscanner VS Quizimodo dispute? You may aswell 'pull the plug' on Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Dominion. -- GoodDay (talk) 20:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I am deliberating. Quizimodo (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Image

Are you just being antagonistic about the image of the Queen on Canada? If there's no fair use rationale for that particular article, add it to the image page. This isn't difficult to do. --G2bambino (talk) 20:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how to write one, and I don't have the time to figure it out. I'm just enforcing the rules. It will be deleted by a bot anyways. It's happened to a whole bunch of images I put on pages, and it was too complicated to figure out all the rules. I know that you have to prove that there is no free image available to use a copywrited image like that; that rule mafe me give up on puttitng pictures up. I know on this page, there is already a fine picture of the queen on the picture of currencies, so you might have trouble proving that there is no other picture available when another image of her already on the page. --soulscanner (talk) 21:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

If you were so concerned about the image being used on pages for which there's no fair use rationale given, why then did you not delete it from Canadian and American politics compared, Style of the Canadian sovereign, Government of Canada, Monarchism in Canada, Debate on the monarchy in Canada, and List of Canadian monarchs? Further, all you had to do was this to quell your concerns. --G2bambino (talk) 21:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Please take this to the relevant Discussion board. I won't discuss it here. --soulscanner (talk) 21:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

3RR

Note: you have violated WP:3RR at Canada. You may self-revert, otherwise I'll file a report at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. --G2bambino (talk) 22:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)