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| A hemispherical head is one in which the combustion chambers are spherical in shape. Obviously, there are no completely spherical combustion chambers, only chambers made up of some portion of a sphere. That portion of a sphere may range from 1/2 to 3/8 to less of a complete sphere. It doesn't matter, as long as the combustion chamber is indeed, some portion of a sphere. The Australian hemi-6 chambers are spherical, something less of a sphere's volume than the 426's chamber, but spherical in shape none-the-less. You apparently do not know this, do not understand the concept of a hemispherical chamber, or are just being willfully dense. Whatever the real reasons, stop following my I.P. from article to article and messing them up. | |||
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I think we should make this page a summary of Chrysler's Hemi technology and fully split out the 426 Hemi and new Hemi. It's a bit confusing.
Should Hemi just point here, or should it explain hemispherical heads in general? —Morven 04:37, Aug 8, 2004 (UTC)
- I think we should have a page for hemispherical heads, pointing here and at other hemi (small h) engines like the Jaguar XK6 and Mitsubishi V6 and Chrysler Australian straight 6. The new Hemi and old Hemi and "early" Hemi are all different enough that each could have its own page, I'm sure. I'm going to split out the Mazda engines like this too. --SFoskett 14:41, Aug 8, 2004 (UTC)
Compression ratio
I'm curious how the compression ratio of a hemi-head engine compares with other gasoline engines. It would seem to me that a full hemisphere would take up a lot more space (of course, I suppose "hemi" doesn't necessarily mean a full hemisphere is in there), and the piston wouldn't be able to rise far enough to compress the gas/air mixture to the level you see in other engines. Anyway, just something I don't know much about. —User:Mulad (talk) 18:53, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)
- Hemi engined cars had domed pistons to compensate. One of the ways to vary compression ratio is to dome or dish the piston top. —Morven 20:48, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)
- P.S. the "New Hemi" isn't a full half sphere; it's shallower, so that domed pistons are not needed. Domed pistons make the combustion flame-front have to go further, which means pollution-causing incomplete combustion —Morven 20:51, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)
hemispherical vs. Chrysler Hemi
I think we need to split this article. Chrysler Hemi engine should refer to those models that Chrysler called "Hemi" and the regular Hemi engine article should be a general overview of the design with links and information on Porsche, Mitsubishi, Chrysler, and other Hemis. Thoughts? --SFoskett 16:29, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, agreed. Chrysler Hemi engine should refer to the three different Chrysler hemi designs. We are currently lacking a page on the 426 Hemi, I believe; one should be created. Hemi engine should be a general page about the concept.
- Dr_gonzo should learn to be less gonzo, at least in terms of using a spell-checker. —Morven 18:40, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)
spell checkers cramp my style.
Dr-Gonzo.
crossflow
or "crossflow cylinder head"??? the Crossflow cylinder head article says nothing about hemis. --Gbleem 05:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- It certainly doesn't, just like an article about animals may not mention ring tailed lemurs 202.27.209.71 08:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
All engines are hemispherical
Aren't all engines more or less hemispherical (as opposed to the archaic flat head design), given that the head is usually cone shaped to a large degree.
I think this is all a bit confusing, as
From what I've heard "Hemi" means:
- to have two valves per cylinder
- these valves must be in a strait line, and obviously, in the head
- the spark plug will be between them
- perhaps the engine will have to use push rods?
And although these engines are supposed to be "the sex", as they won nascar, nascar is restricted to ancient, 2 valve engines.
Also, it doesn't take a genius to realise that, at 10:1 compression, by sliding a piston in a cylinder, having anything really resembling a hemisphere at the end is going to take a stroke so long when the piston is at the bottom, the space in the cylinder will resemble a saussage (which certainly isn't a good shape in terms of thermal efficiency) 202.27.209.71 08:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- I see we don't have an article on Wedge head. In fact, valves "in a straight line" is a funny concept; obviously, any two valves will be in a straight line, but if you mean the valves are parallel, that's kind of the opposite of a hemi, that's a wedge head. Imagine a triangle with two long sides and one short side; one long side is the top of the piston, the other long side is where the valves are in the head, the short side is the other side of the chamber in the head; often where the spark plug goes. A hemi is more likely to have valves canted in different directions, i.e. on opposite sides of an isoceles triangle, if not an actual hemisphere. Variations such as the old chevy "semi-hemi" 427, where the valves were definitely canted apart, but not a true hemi, etc. Gzuckier 19:00, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not really up with the play on different engine configurations, my 86 suzuki swift single overhead cam pushing intake and exhaust valves via rockers had a hemispherical head. I'm not sure about how single overhead cam engines that push the valves directly (no rockers) work (I can only assume the valves would be parallel with a spark plug between them) or dual overhead cams, but it was my understanding that all (non-archaic) rocker engines had non-parallel valves and a moderately
This page seems to suggest that the only advantage is larger valves
Page cleaning?
I don think its relevant to have here list of Porsche or Mitsubishi engines...If we put all hemi engines here this page will grow quite large...This page needs more sources also.--— Typ932 20:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Why do you keep making the pictures smaller?
Why not do some link checking or actually take away the Porsche/Mitsubishi stuff?
Saab 95 and Volvo 300 were just edited by you and they have pictures just as big, and bigger. Can you explain your objections in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.107.159.130 (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Do you want to discuss your reasoning before you hack away at someone else's vision? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.107.159.130 (talk) 21:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- No they have not so big pictures, those pic you put are so big they cover over half of the text area, really too big. Automobile infobox has standard size 250 pixels, if you follow the rules those thumbs should have no size defined. Now this page looks really ridiculous.. --— Typ932 21:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I disagree with you. On my screen they are the right size. What kind of monitor do you have? What resolution are you using? The Voyager article you just edited also has images this size. Again, why is that ok, but not here?
- On my monitor, it is too big a block of text. For the 1903 engine, size is needed to see the details. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.107.159.130 (talk) 21:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- I have 17 inch TFT (1280 x 1024), but 300 pixel is way too big, Voyager article has 250 px image in infobox if you leave it without pixel definiton the viewer can decide the size... Misplaced Pages:Picture tutorial --— Typ932 21:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Image size
The thumbnail feature of Misplaced Pages allows each user to set, in his own preferences, the default display size for thumbnails in an article. It's best, per the Misplaced Pages Manual of Style, to avoid explicitly specifying a size for thumbnails in an article. Remember, all it takes is one easy click to see the full-size image. The thumbnail doesn't have to (and isn't meant to) do the whole job of illustration. Its job is to serve as a marker and say "Hey, there's an image here!". Of course it shouldn't be so small as to be invisible, but just using the thumb tag without an explicit size callout usually doesn't result in an invisibly-small image. If you think the images are too small or too large, go in your user prefs and change your default view. I've removed the size-forcing callouts from the thumbs in this article; that minimises the number of users who'll see them as too large or too small. It also nullifies any reason to bicker over what size they should be...! ;-) --Scheinwerfermann (talk) 02:35, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
WikiStalking and being UNCLEAR on the concepts of this article
A hemispherical head is one in which the combustion chambers are spherical in shape. Obviously, there are no completely spherical combustion chambers, only chambers made up of some portion of a sphere. That portion of a sphere may range from 1/2 to 3/8 to less of a complete sphere. It doesn't matter, as long as the combustion chamber is indeed, some portion of a sphere. The Australian hemi-6 chambers are spherical, something less of a sphere's volume than the 426's chamber, but spherical in shape none-the-less. You apparently do not know this, do not understand the concept of a hemispherical chamber, or are just being willfully dense. Whatever the real reasons, stop following my I.P. from article to article and messing them up.
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