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By the way, a good way to keep track of Palestine-related articles that need to be written or improved, or alert others to articles that should be created which you don't yourself have the expertise to write, is the recently created Misplaced Pages:Wikiportal/Palestine. - Mustafaa 21:52, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Another thing

Just made Misplaced Pages:Notice board for Palestine-related topics; it might come in handy. - Mustafaa 20:31, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Palestinian territories

They are quite relentless aren't they? In any case, sometimes it's easier to get the point across effectively if done in a manner that is most efficient and least disputed. To that end, I suggest you include a clip about the so called Road Map (including the fact that the PA accepted it fully but the Israeli government accepted it with 14 reservations - and source it) in the section entitled "Legal Status of the territories" - I think it will be a lot harder to dispute if you add it there. What do you think? Ramallite 7 July 2005 20:57 (UTC)

Actually it's 14 "reservations" - here's one source and here's another - I think it's relevant to the section it is under now, but see if you can clean it up a little to make it flow nicer and as NPOV as possible to prevent reverts! Thanks for putting that in. Ramallite 9 July 2005 02:57 (UTC)

They are all liars

especially that one.--Hercule 8 July 2005 05:18 (UTC)

Query

Query for you at Talk:Gaza Strip. Many thanks, SlimVirgin 20:31, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

Do you feel terrorism is justified sometimes? Andycjp 16th July 2005 I am glad to hear you condemn it. But don`t you think that many terrorists who are Muslims draw some of their inspiration from the Koran? Andy

Palestinians and other Arabs

Not all Arabs are the same, so you can't put them all together in the same article. If you want to do an ancestry of Palestinian Arabs, talk about Palestinian Arabs. I have a question for you. Do you think that I can put the ancestry of English, Austrians and Liechtensteiners in when discussing the ancestry of Germans? Just a thought. It made the article lose focus. However, if you want to do an ancestry of all Arabic peoples then make an article for that or comment on such a page. TheUnforgiven 21:30, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Image:Nassar.jpg

Hi, I notice you uploaded this image earlier today, but you didn't supply any details of its source, copyright status, etc. I'm afraid that the new policy implimented a few months ago means that pictures that are not uploaded under the GNU FDL or a similar licence, or are in the Public Domain, or are arguably Fair Use (and grounds have to be available for arguing that, it can't just be asserted), are extremely likely to be deleted from the database. I just thought I'd let you know and give you a chance to add the info before the Copyright Violation Police notice! :) Regards, -- Arwel 23:35, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Revert of Islamist Terrorism

Could you please explain the revert?

Zionist Terrorism

And Israeli terrorism have been modified by Guy Montag to the point where thet are pure Israeli POV. Have a look and see what you think. 62.253.64.14 00:59, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

RfC for Germen

Thanks for certifying my RfC for Germen (no offense, but it was most unexpected). I think you may misunderstand the RfC procedure, though: two users who are directly involved in the conflict and have demonstrated attempts to mediate the dispute are required to certify the RfC. Other users may endorse the RfC in which case, unless you can think otherwise, your signature belongs in the endorse section. Axon 14:13, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Once again, apologies. In that case, if you feel these were attempts to disrupt Misplaced Pages to make a point you might like to add references these deleted to the RfC. You can demonstrate proof by searching the Special:Log/delete. If you also feel you can certify the RfC it would great if you could supply evidence that you attempted (and failed) to mediate with Germen in the appropriate section. Axon 14:18, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

I've completed the draft of the RfC. If you could review it to ensure you still endorse it I will publish it ASAP. Axon 16:22, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Jihad

I am not Zeno, so please don't accuse me of being that in edit summaries or anywhere else. Thank you. -- Stereotek

Please do not engage in vandalism

Your behavior at Jihad is entirely counterproductive.

Wholesale deletion of content, whether done over a series of edits or all at once, is still vandalism. NPOV does not mean that you have authority to remove properly sourced information merely because you dislike it. Unless you can prove that it is false, your proper recourse is to find a source of your own with which to contrast the existing source.

Also, you are fast approaching a violation of revert policy. I will have no hesitation of reporting you as engaging in serial reversion as a method of POV pushing is a gross violation of policy.

Please do all of us who are actually interested in making a truly NPOV-compliant article a favor and behave within the bounds of Misplaced Pages policy as well as discussing your edits on the talk page.Ni-ju-Ichi 03:18, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

I looked at your edits. You were engaging in a form of sneaky reversion, deliberately only killing certain sections of the material you had previously deleted by reversion. Regardless, by Misplaced Pages policy "complex reverts" or "partial reverts" still count as reversion under reversion rules. Your claim that you were "merging" the two sections is pointless: you took the section and wiped out over half of it, despite the disparate size of the two versions. You also deleted sources from the article merely because you disagreed with them. This is not in keeping with proper NPOV policy and you know it.Ni-ju-Ichi 03:22, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

"Moving" a set of private comments to a talk page and deleting them from your own is not a normal Misplaced Pages behavior, and would seem to be a violation of Wikilove as well. I was trying to give you helpful hints about your behavior moving out of bounds. I do not intend to delete them from the page, but I am apologizing to the readers for your odd behavior.Ni-ju-Ichi 03:30, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Reverts

You are in danger of violating the three revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. -Willmcw 04:50, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

I see that you have already been warned previously, so I am going to block your editing privileges temporarily. Please review our core policies, wikipedia:five pillars. You are welcome to edit here if you can work according to our policies in a constructive, collaborative manner. -Willmcw 04:55, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

sockpuppets

Hi Heraclius -- yes, the Jihad article is troubled waters, at present... I am afraid only developers can see the IPs of logged in users (I know...). But in the present case, it hardly matters: an edit warrior is an edit warrior; sockpuppets only become harmful when they try to simulate a group of editors (multiple voting etc.) regards, dab (ᛏ) 05:50, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Iman

Hi - Let me look through it tonight, I'll see if I can make it more acceptable. Thanks for the note, I just added it to my watchlist. Ramallite 16:54, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I made it more neutral - not as truthful as I'd like, but harder to complain about, so it gets the points across and that's what is important. Let me know what you think!

Ramallite 04:22, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Your ban

I thought your ban was very unevenhanded and complained to the admin involved. He has now banned Guy Montag also for equivalent conduct. Looking forward to seeing your edits again - I'm going to take a few days break to think of ways to deal with the Israeli POV pushers. My current guess is that we call them on POV and when they "game" the systems whilst trying to maintain the moral high ground ourselves. Honestly bad behaviour by them is our best weapon - especially if we can stay inside the rules and more importantly spirit of Misplaced Pages. 62.253.64.14 20:54, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Okay, what do you say we begin ArbCom proceedings?

Re EnviroZenoNichiExistKabongKnot? Please let me know your thoughts ASAP. BrandonYusufToropov 21:11, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

No problem -- BTW, when you get a chance ...

Can you please take a look at the editor's poll I posted at the Jihad talk page here? BrandonYusufToropov 14:37, 21 July 2005 (UTC)