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Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Sussexman - might need to be a bit of a discussion about the way forward from this one? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 09:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I dunno. I'd have assumed that Sussexman's unblock request would now be shot down in flames, the two confirmeds to be blocked as sockpuppets of a banned editor, and discussion on the other possibly on TER, especially with regards to COI? Is there really much else to discuss? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 15:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Do you want to do the honours? I'd really rather not start a discussion about recommending editors I've been in conflict with be indeffed? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:11, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

There you go. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

It seems certain people aren't happy, and think we should assume good faith. Where's the banhammer? ;) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

How do you expect people to react when faced with this lie sheet? David Lauder (talk) 17:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Question

Ty... this is a DOUBLY indefblocked (One ArbCom banned, one indefblocked) for real world legal threats (not just, "What you're doing is illegal" (which is bad enough), but actually someone solicitor's letters threatening legal action (again, TWICE!) person. Two seperate accounts. Twice after being banned, they've just created new accounts and gone on. They have lied to investigating Foundation members about how this was "Torturing the health of a dying old man" to get the whole thing swept under the rug by a courtesy deletion of a freaking ARBCOM case (and you know that rarely happens) I know we're trying to AGF here, but AGF is NOT a suicide pact. I'm really shocked to see your defense of this user. SirFozzie (talk) 20:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Ty: Email me with your email address, please? I have some further information on the whole history of this, and I'd be glad to share it with you. SirFozzie (talk) 20:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Your idea of disruption

What is more disruptive to this wiki project - having deep undercover sock that you have used on every issue for over a year or telling someone to f*&$ off. Let's see ya now!--Vintagekits (talk) 09:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not a competition! Obviously neither is helpful. Tyrenius (talk) 15:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

VK, this took a detailed investigation followed by a checkuser. There was no possible way that Ty could have known any of that. Stop gloating already - Alison 16:11, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

This is not a race to the bottom, VK. I have made a recommendation on WP:TER on how to deal with this, going forward. SirFozzie (talk) 16:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not gloating all I am saying is that much if not most of my trouble on wiki stemmed fae these "editors" ganging up on my, their vote stacking etc and now it appears it was just one person after all!--Vintagekits (talk) 17:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

You are gloating, and nowhere does it state in the checkuser findings that they are "just one person after all" so both yourself and David Lauder are quite incorrect in that regard. Furthermore, VK, you generate enough trouble of your own without any assistance from them - Alison 17:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

My signature

Hi, Ty. Thanks for drawing my attention to the WP:SIGNATURE#Length guideline. I've found ways to trim the sig down to 393 chars and still retain the basic look I desire. I hope this 29% improvement will please you, however if you'd like to see it trimmed down further I'm going to need some assistance, as I don't know of any method which will keep this look in fewer characters. It's a fun challenge to try, mind you... —  X  S  G  07:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

RE:Strange Cargo Arts Company

Hello Tyrenius. Thank you for your note. It wasn't nonsense. I put that tag by mistake. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Harassment

Hi Tyrenius, I'm being harassed by this editor User talk:Icarus of old, he continuosly adds this phrase - Paul klee was the greatest modern artist with skill and colour - on Paul Klee and after I delete it, he puts it back and he says that I added it. I've just warned him, he looks like trouble to me. Can you check it out? Thanks Modernist (talk) 01:27, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Closing AfDs

Thank you for closing the Vadukul affair; can I now interest you in this monster? One way or another, I mean. Thank you for considering it. -- Hoary (talk) 16:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Can't blame you. Oh well, if you can't beat it, then join it. Vote! One way or another, and anyway it's not a vote of course. Bring all your friends, too. Who knows, this could become the year's longest AfD. It's certainly heading that way, and it already has a certain gruesome charm. -- Hoary (talk) 16:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm getting arty

I figured I'd take this photo while I was out and about. I don't know how they managed to take this one as you have to go a couple of hundred yards down a dirt track to get near it, then the bridge it's attached to is at the top of a fifteen foot bank. There's no possible way that photo was taken without machinery.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks good thanks. I'd have needed to have levitated to get better light in the actual shot, and I don't have much in the way of image processing software. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Assuming I can find it (the location given is very vague) I'll probably take some pics of this by Andy Goldsworthy at some point. Luckily that seems to be at a sensible height for photography.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Much improved. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 09:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not really bothered either way. I just thought his article was definitely lacking a photo (what's an artist's article worth without art to look at?), so figured I'd add one seeing as one exhibit is reasonably close to me. Then I found the others on suitable licenses, and the more the merrier.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

PRIVATE: DON'T READ

FROM HERE ON!

Ha ha!! I just deleted it :) - Alison 20:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC) (okay, so I moved it to Commons :) )

Um. You missed Image:Once Upon A Time-1.jpg, and Image:Once Upon A Time-2.jpg. Tyrenius (talk) 20:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

You can't do that actually. Photographs of art, statues, commercial packaging and often toys are not permitted which is why I uploaded it here and not to Commons, so get your hammy fists working and put things back the way they were pleease. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Restored. Tyrenius (talk) 20:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I was talking to Ali re the hammy fists by the way, it's a standing joke. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I assumed! Commons version marked for speedy deletion. Er, Ha ha!! unquote. :) Tyrenius (talk) 20:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

And now deleted by... Alison... She certainly likes deleting your image. Ah well, all's well that ends well.Tyrenius (talk) 20:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

lol - what a mess :) - Alison 20:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

If we keep quiet, no one will ever know it happened! Tyrenius (talk) 20:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

... for a price :D - Alison 20:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

My bank account is this a way.Tyrenius (talk) 00:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

What's that line about two people can keep a secret, only if.... :D SirFozzie (talk) 00:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

END PRIVATE SECTION.

DO NOT READ!!

renaming articles

I have read so many wiki pages I can't remember where I read something. Am I right in thinking that I can't rename an article, I can only recreate it under the new name and flag the old one for deletion? I have been loathe to add a deletion flag to anything and I am not sure how to do it. I am "splitting" an article into a (book) and a (film) EraserGirl (talk) 16:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

thank you! that worked perfectly, the purpose of the Move page wasn't completely obvious to a dolt as myself. 84 Charing Cross Road (book) and 84 Charing Cross Road (film) now have separate pages, unfortunately they BOTH still need extensive expansion. I picked if off the To Do list for the film project, I am not up to inventing work for myself. I am using the housekeeping lists to practice small wikitasks. EraserGirl (talk) 17:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

thank you for the clarification, but perhaps in future someone may move it again, as 84 Charing Cross Road is an actual London address and the intitial Film Project instructions were to create (film), (book) and (play). EraserGirl (talk) 17:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

They are not equally weighted, the original source material takes precedence, but of the four adaptations, only the book and film are generally known. So, your fix is perfectly reasonable. I am curious as there are about 50 more book/films that need division and I will again have this problem. Thanks as always. EraserGirl (talk) 17:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Since art isn't my strong point

If someone wanted to add some more images to Andy Goldsworthy there's plenty of free images right here. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

The search I used filters the results for all the images that can be used here freely. AFAIK (and I'm not a copyright lawyer) the reason they aren't allowed on Commons is that copyright law on photographs of sculptures varies from country to country, and Commons is designed for images that can be used freely on any Wiki project. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Didn't see your reply till now for some reason. Panoramafreiheit is more relevant than the Misplaced Pages essay, in particular the part about non-commercial use in certain countries which explains why they can't go on Commons. I don't think there's a problem with the images here, as if there was you'd expect a similar message to the one on Commons. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 09:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Tyrenius. I apologize for my outrageous behavior the other day; a block was called for. May I ask what your age is, tell me if that's too personal. All the best. Creamy3 (talk) 17:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough Tyrenius. Have a good day. Creamy3 (talk) 20:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Just dropping by (no need to respond!) to say how much I agree with your posts on WP:AN/I; especially your response here (I thought exactly the same thing, but couldn't be bothered to reply - when I next checked, you had written what I thought). I'm afraid that you and I are clearly in the minority, and I also think its unfortunate that we run the risk of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The two cases, whilst superficially similar, also have some considerable differences; stir in the harassment directed at Rockpocket and the general war-weariness, and we have an example of 'hard cases make bad law'. Yours, etc.--Major Bonkers (talk) 15:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

My twopence worth is this. I believe vk and Sussexman each caused at least one person to leave the project. And that each has been guilty of abusive sockpuppetry. Both have attacked areas of interest to the other in a tit-for-tat manner. Both have been disruptive in Irish articles. And Vk has been guilty of stalking, swearing, threats, drunkeness and incivility. Vk is still being provocative to Lauder on WikipediaReview. Lauder is still in denial about checkuser and has attacked neutral unbiased admins. Vk has made valuable contributions to boxing. Lauder has made valuable contributions to historical articles. Wfrank has made valuable contributions to Singapore. Kittybrewster ☎ 16:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I think that's quite a fair assessment, although I haven't (and can't be bothered to) look into the Sussexman case in detail. Oddly enough, I last checked Misplaced Pages Review about a couple of hours ago, and there was a new forum dedicated to Rockpocket, which seemed to be a continuation of a certain somebody's Talk page; looking again just now, its disappeared (probably with good riddance). Conclusion that I draw: just when I'm prepared to give somebody the benefit of the doubt and show a bit of good faith on the assumption that a leaf has been turned over, I discover that, in fact, we're back at square one (to mix my metaphors). --Major Bonkers (talk) 20:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that's a pretty fair summation of the whole sorry saga, Kittybrewster. Well said - Alison 20:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I concur with Alison. One thing that strikes me is that many users do not violate policies, even though they encounter problematic situations (I commend my fellow admins for their behaviour re. this whole affair), or make the odd mistake, but clearly learn very quickly and move on, with no real harm done. They can have differences, but resolve them through reasonable discussion. Those that do not do so, absorb a huge amount of time and energy of other editors and admins. Tolerance is extended to them that I cannot imagine being extended in another walk of life. Tyrenius (talk) 20:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Printmaking

has been afflicted by a box-formatting glitch for some time, from here down. You're good at that sort of thing - any chance of a look? Johnbod (talk) 20:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Great - sorted. Johnbod (talk) 21:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Art

Hi Tyrenius. I am asking you and Modernist to take a look at the current editing of Art, for you thoughts. I don't have the energy for a full-fledged edit war, and any input either supporting or contradicting me would be welcome. Thanks, 21:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)JNW (talk)

WikiProjects

How does one start their own WikiProject Tyrenius? Get back to me when you can. Creamy3 (talk) 23:21, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Re you removal of comments and your comments on my page

Kindly sod off. These comments are accurate and appropriate and are a direct reference to comments John made to me. If you are so senstitive, get another hobby as Jimbo said to Giano. Sarah777 (talk) 15:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)