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| I've established a ballpark for each primary |
I've established a ballpark for each primary source based on the chronology therein. For death dates anyway. | ||
| Beyond speculation about the Heyin executions, does any of the other main sources say outright that Bodhidharma died in 528? Does ANY source say that he died in 528 rather than merely speculating that he died in the Heyin executions in 528? | Beyond speculation about the Heyin executions, does any of the other main sources say outright that Bodhidharma died in 528? Does ANY source say that he died in 528 rather than merely speculating that he died in the Heyin executions in 528? | ||
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I was told that in the state of Kerela in India, people practice some kind of martial art for centuries. This form of martial arts resembles Kung Fu and Karate. It would be nice if someone from India can expand on this because this form of martial art might have been the grandfather of all kung fu.
Yes it is called kallaripattam, it is mentioned in the article. As Firestar mentions below, there must have been native martial arts in China before Tamo. There was also a lot of exchange between coastal India and China other than the silk route, so there are possiblities of mutual influnences. --preetamrai 17:41, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is there any research to tie Qigong to Indian meditation techniques such as Yoga?
Not sure about this one. Though, it is an interesting study area. The concept of life force and points (chakras) are consistent in both China and India.
--preetamrai 17:41, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Greetings,
There is a fair amount of archaeological evidence which many think shows qigong and the Chinese martial arts predating the arrival of Buddhism in China. There are texts referring to qigong like exercises from at least the 5th century B.C., and inscriptions from centuries earlier which seem to (although some dispute the interpretation). As well, there are a few statues of unarmed soldiers from the first Qin Emperor's terra cotta army that are in distinctly martial "kung fu" poses that date from the third century B.C.
Fire Star 03:57, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I'm form the german wikipedia, so my english is not so well ;o). I mentioned that in this article sometimes Wade-Giles is used and sometimes Pinyin. It would be better only to use one of tihis transscriptions. Greetings-80.171.131.223 14:49, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Unfortunately, many practioners of the Indian martial art of kalarippayat are claiming that they are the forefathers of Chinese Shaolin Kung Fu. This is unfortunate, because no evidence exists that shows that kalarippayat existed before Shaolin Kung Fu and they are casting historical doubt on their own rich history. The martial art in the state of Kerala was practically dead before a few years ago and hadn't been practiced since the 1800's. The earliest historical written evidence dates from a Portuguese traveler who noted that around the 16th century members of the state of Kerala were practicing a holistic/ayurvedic/dance/martial arts system and that the locals stated that it had been practiced since the 13th century.
Birth and death dates
What are our sources for Bodhidharma's birth and death dates?
I've established a ballpark for each primary source based on the chronology therein. For death dates anyway.
Beyond speculation about the Heyin executions, does any of the other main sources say outright that Bodhidharma died in 528? Does ANY source say that he died in 528 rather than merely speculating that he died in the Heyin executions in 528?
Also, where are we getting 440 as a birth year from?