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You asked me why I removed all of User:Garydubhs discussion from my talk page. Actually if you look at the history I did not just delete his discussion. Let me explain; previously I moved his initial posting to his talk page (where I replied in detail) because I like to keep discussions in one place that is most appropriate and not have be jumping back and forth to try and keep track of a discussion, and so that other editors could find everything in one place too. This is quite a usual practice for many editors who dislike disjointed discussions as I do. What I did was actually remove his reposting and duplication of the discussion to my page without any explanation why he did not want to discuss it on this talk page BUT, despite his accusation that I deleted the discussion, it is all still on his talk page and can continue there without any problem. He is the one with a conflict of interest who is edit-warring and pushing his company's product, so, to me, I find it best to discuss his issues on his talk page. Hope that help you understand what I did and why. And in case the irony of my userID (read my user page) is of interest, I replied to Gary's improper assumption in the post just after yours on his talk page too. There is no censoring going on by me, I follow the policies and guidelines, just like most other constructive editors around here. BTW, because I started a discussion here I will watch this page, for the reasons stated above. I hope you will start to contribute constructive and useful sourced information to Misplaced Pages soon. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 19:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

have you any idea why you have aggrivated him so much?? From the outside whilst I would agree with you that he does want to promote his proposal - he is also making a valid point about decision to allow one unsubstantiated Irish Independent Article and not allow the Irish Times one. I have noted that Browhaired Girl advised that it was acceptable but as yet you have not allowed it. I can understand why he may be aggrieved - and I think possibly you are now blinded from the crux of the argument. Baggywrinkle (talk) 21:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Beacuse several different editors have removed his conflict of interest edits for that and other reasons, such as Guliolopez noting "Wait until it's published, and acknowledged as an accepted standard". If he was a reasonable person he would wait until an independent editor found suitable sourced references. Unfortunately he is a pedant pushing for an encyclopaedic entry for a product from his own company that may or may not become a postcode system for the Irish postal authority An Post. Remember that until it is accepted as such it is unproven as a postcode system despite his own website's use of the word postcode. That is for the future to decide but as of now it is a gps location system with no postal address status. See the UPU Irish postal addressing reference for that is the article Gary is trying to add his information to. His issue with the Irish Independent reference is not a valid comparison because that reports on "proposals being brought before the Cabinet" while the Irish Times article repeats practically verbatim a press release from his own company as released here.

The question that BHG replied to was concerning the use of a subscription based website as references, not whether this particular article was suitable. Her answer was: Oh, the reference is very useable. Subscription-only sites are fine for reference (otherwise we couldn't use books!), but are banned for external links. and in particular to the use of the gpsireland reference in the IT she wrote: I think that their system is an interesting idea, a sort of simplified grid reference which could serve all sorts of purposes. I think that its status at the moment could be best regarded as a novel approach to the problem which might be used to make a formal proposal to the govt/An Post, who so far as I know have yet to clarify how they would design a postcode system. It could actually be quite good for an article such as this to discuss difft methodologies for postcode-creation, but that would need some more reliable source than a lazy journalist using a single source. BTW, I respect BHG's opinions as she is one of the most prolific editors and admins on Misplaced Pages with more than 121,000 edits.

You might also wish to look at the talk page gary used before registering to see some more of his POV pushing and edit warring. I can assure you I am not blinded by anything and specifically let others deal with Gary more recently, just to see what any other editors reactions were - we are proven correct in that they too have removed his edits. As I said, if and when something significant is sourced, I will be very happy to edit the Republic of Ireland postal addresses page to include something which may well be about Gary's company product, but right now is not the time. Sorry to be so long winded but seeing as you asked, I feel it needs a clear explanation. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 22:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)