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My self shabiha im a traditionalist Sunni Student . I believe in Peace ful Propagation of religion . As im Muslim so i follow Sufism . Im warsi sunni and belivesin more liberal form of Propagation .
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Deleting content is not always vandalism
Deleting Muhammad picture is not vandalism. When the content is disputed then adding them is as bad as deleting them. However, we should concentrate on solving this problem in better way. Please help me in improving Including Muhammad Pictures Against wiki-policies so that we can file an arbitration case. --- A. L. M.21:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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Salamun alaykom. We have a discussion regarding the correct translation and the actual meaning of something written by Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya. We might need an opinion from some native arabic speakers in order to reach consensus. If this caught your interest, feel free to join our discussion at Talk:Hadith of Sabra reporting on the prohibition of Mut'ah. Thank you. Hamid-Masri11:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Stop
Please stop disrupting the Deobandi article. Although the scholars from Darul uloom disagreed on various points with Imam Ahmed Raza Khan, they were serious about their faith and followed Tariqas. The Salafis had some commonalities with them on some matters of Tawassul and that's why the Saudis sponsored many of their Madrassas. Wassalam. --Nkv15:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Mufti Taqi Uthmani is a prominent Deobandi Scholar today. Here's what his bio says. . He's a Sufi. The Darul Uloom site itself attests to their acceptance of Sufism. . You're edits are partisan, wrong and disruptive. --Nkv17:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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Kanzul Iman
Misplaced Pages is not for source material. If the text of Surah Al-Fathiha (note what the correct title should have been) and all the other surahs are not already on the web, then post them to Wikisource. Here, I recommend you to start with just one short article about Kanzul Iman. -- RHaworth16:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
How to revert
Assalamoalaikum I wish to ask that Can I Remove the Prophet's(S.A.W) Picture from that section NOW.
How can I revert the Matter.
How can I Create Multi pages Article.
Shabiha 09:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)Shabiha
For the pictures I will try to find arbitration and working on User:ALM scientist/image dispute. When we are right then we will succeed. If we fail even then no worries because at least we tried our best. :)
Multi-page article? Article supposed to have only one page. It might give links to other pages that are other articles. To create new article just write it name in search box on the left hand side. For example I write there Shabiha. If the article already exist you will get it otherwise it will give link to create the article. Remember to create only article which add value to encyclopedia, otherwise your article will be deleted.
To revert: You could use popups Misplaced Pages:Tools/Navigation_popups. However, I do not use them and I simply see article hitory and compare current version with older version. Then I click on the older version and save it. Revert when it is necessary, otherwise go to talk page. Tell others what you wish to do and then make a change. Keep other people with you by posting on the talk. Wassalam. --- A. L. M.19:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Debate
Assalamu alaikum Shabiha. From your edits of late, I get the idea that you have a dangerously anti Deobandi stance. Regardless of what Misplaced Pages says or becomes, you should take care of your Iman. I'd recommend that you take a look at this article by Shaykh Nuh Keller (who is a Sufi and a Shaykh of the Shahdilli Tariqa current living in Jordan). It discusses the divide between these two great schools of Islamic thought in India. Please read through it carefully and May Allah keep you on the Sirat-e-mustaqim . Wassalam. --Nkv07:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Email
Hi Shabiha,
Did you consider enabling your accounts email feature? i have done conciderable work on sunni organization and personalities but not know well of usage of Misplaced Pages please help me in my work currently on Mollan A Sattar NiaziŇëŧΜǒńğëŗ16:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
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Plz iscuss it with me on Talk Page as it MostImportant Dcuument of Barelwi Movement. Like Other Translations it has also right to be There.Hope u will resolve the Matter. User:Shabiha12:17, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Wa `alaykum as-salām. Sure I am interested in contributing to any topic related to Sufism. I have a number of resources, books etc, and specifically I can provide references/sources to articles. However most of my time is spent on wikibooks and I my contribution here can be complementary at best.--Shahab01:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
First, I should tell you that the article has not been nominated as an article for deletion, and as such you don't need to defend it on the talk page. Rather, it has been proposed for deletion, which means that it will automatically be deleted five days from when I proposed its deletion unless you remove the tag at the top of the article. You can do this at any time, and doing so will mean that your article is no longer proposed for deletion.
However, I have to tell you that the problems I see are severe enough that, if you remove the tag without addressing them, I will nominate the article for deletion, which will involve several days of discussion and end in a binding consensus. The problems I see are as follows:
This is probably the most severe of the problems with the article. You must remember that Misplaced Pages is meant to be written for all audiences, not just Muslims. As such, the usage of terms like "illustrious", "tender age", "his eminence", etc. are improper here. The articles on Muhammad and Moses avoid the usage of such terms.
The article does not properly establish the notability of its subject, only making the unsupported claim that he is a great scholar in the Islamic world.
I hope this helps a bit in understanding why this article has been tagged. I've added some other tags to the article in an effort to attract the attention of other editors who may be able to help you fix it. If you have any other questions, please feel free to let me know. --jonny-mt(t)(c) 01:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Shabiha, thank you for your note on my talk page. I have noticed that there seems to be an edit war going on in this article and would like to help you all to reach consensus. See you on the talk page. → AA — 09:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi again. Please comment on my proposal for the restructuring of the article. Thanks. → AA — 18:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I have asked MezzeoMezzo to respect a 0RR approach on this article and would like to request the same of you too. What it means is that we do not revert any changes but rather if we disagree on something, we take it to the talk page and get the other's response before taking any further action. This will be much more productive for the article. TIA. → AA — 15:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I note you've added Hasan to the list but have not added any references. Is it meant to be attributed to the existing reference (Britannica)? → AA — 15:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Shabiha, I got involved in this article at your request and have tried to assist both you and MezzoMezzo to work constructively to build the article. I have asked both of you to respect a 0RR approach and discuss changes. I have to note that MezzoMezzo has abided by this but will ask you again to discuss changes and not revert. You should also take some time to read the Manual of Style (including WP:MOSISLAM) as changes you make should adhere to those and other relevant policies (WP:NPOV, WP:NOT). I am not sure what your objection is to the restructuring which is intended to prevent the article from simply becoming a list of opinions but to provided reasoned arguments and rebuttals. No one is going to use Misplaced Pages as evidence to start celebrating Mawlid or stop celebrating it if they already do so and seeing it in this light is not going to help us build a neutral article. I am happy to discuss any issues you have in the talk pages (or via email). → AA — 20:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
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Requesting your opinion.
This line is in the "Jesus" article. As a Muslim, I was interested in your opinion of it.
"In Islam, Jesus (Arabic: عيسى, commonly transliterated as Isa) is considered one of God's most beloved and important prophets, a bringer of divine scripture, a worker of miracles, and the Messiah."
I am honored that you would ask me to mediate between you and MezzoMezzo. I'll do my best, but I am still a relatively new Misplaced Pages user with much to learn about their policies and rules.
I have decided to accept your invitation to mediate between you and MezzoMezzo on the Deobandi and Barelwi pages. I have contacted him and he also agrees.
Here are my suggestions:
First you should read and comply with Wiki etiquette. The page is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Etiquette . Please pay special attention to the concepts ‘good faith’, ‘labeling’, ‘name calling’ and ‘personal attacks’
I would suggest that both of you take an editing break. Do not edit or revert either page for a period of five days. While you are waiting for this period to elapse, work on the following—
Keeping in mind that Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox (WP:Soap), and Misplaced Pages in not a battleground (WP:Battle) and its goal is to present a neutral point of view (WP:NPOV)
for each article (separately) write down:
plz come to Original point I have discussed it what i see is full and complete Picture of Barelwi Movmnts Criticism,i support that same is the case with Deobandi page..see my edits...plz sign ur comments on every page.Shabiha06:00, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
MY point is that please add it to article in also Controversy heading..
In addition In May 2001, riots broke out in Pakistan after the assassination of a leader of the Barelwi movement by Sipah Sahaba Pakistan, a Deoband-affiliated group.
As part of my attempt to mediate between you and MezzoMezzo, I sent you a list of my suggestions. Do you accept this as a basis for mediation?
If so, have you read the articles I suggested?
I see that you posted your proposed change on the 'Talk page' before posting it to the article. Thanks. That's the way to reach consensus and prevent conflict.
Are you saying that there are NO OTHER changes you would like to make to the 'Barelvi' page, and will be happy and satisfied if this reference is added?
Hi -- I saw your request at Talk:Muhammad/censorship requests. Whether or not the pictures are removed, please believe me when I say that Misplaced Pages's inclusion of the pictures was never intended as a way to harass muslims or to hurt their feelings. The pictures were only added to the article as a way to further the ideals of free knowledge that Misplaced Pages is built on.
Is there a compromise position that can be reached? Would religious muslims be more satisfied if the beginning of the Mohammed article contained a warning that there were images of him later in the article, and provided a link to a version of the article that had no images?
Welcome to Misplaced Pages. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Barelwi. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Barelwi. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. MezzoMezzo (talk) 14:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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