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consistency

Ok, I have one last question about the iz/is and I think it will be the last one I need to ask.

If an article has mixed or inconsistent usage of iz vs is, is it proper to put the article into self agreement?

For example:

Modernizing the organisation of wisemen in the standardization of proper grammar and word capitalisation.

My toes start curling even thinking about it. Of course, this is an extreme example, but generally, seeing stuff anywhere close to this gives me a giant headache.

I'm assuming that WP:ENGVAR allows an exception for the sake of consistency of style. If that is not the case, or there are exceptions to this, please let me know. It is this assumption I have been operating under when I made my edits. I did a search and foudn that the majority of spellings in said articles were "iz" and not "is".

To be more specific, how do I follow "use the same form of English the original author used" when the original author mixed?

Vandalism of my talk page

Please stop vandalizing my talk page. You're really starting to give me a headache.76.199.9.176 (talk) 05:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism is what you are doing. Placing warnings against disruptive behavior on your talk page however, is NOT vandalism. Grsz11 (talk) 05:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Friendly request

Hello. Just wanted to drop you a friendly noting asking that you please remember to subst warning templates . Thanks for your hard work in fighting vandalism! --Kralizec! (talk) 06:02, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Xjstudios

I don't think they're related ... but it's promotional just the same, so I username-blocked it. Blueboy96 07:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikiquette on Elrith

I've given up on the Ice Hockey articles (days ago). Elrith's refusal to abide by the WikiProject's compromise (which isn't written in stone, but he could show some good will in accepting it) & the refusal of Djsasso & Krm500 to 'hide/remove' the diacritics completely from the NHL team pages (i.e. current roster) has driven me away. GoodDay (talk) 15:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

User talk:InternalLeaf

Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on User talk:InternalLeaf. Thank you.

With all the actual spam out there, it's not necessary to worry about editors who put a message like "Hello, check out my website!" in their own user space. If such a message had been placed on the editor's own user page instead of her user talk page, it would have been perfectly appropriate there. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

My apologies. His edit here though, was spam to his website, so I felt inclined to delete similar instances. Thanks for the notice. Grsz11 (talk) 04:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Who? Me?

I've turned down Camaeron's request to nominate me for Administrator. I'm not Administrator material. My hot-headedness on the Ice Hockey articles is proof of that (see my full reasons at Camaeron's page). GoodDay (talk) 20:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, I've left the Ice Hockey articles (I even revoked my WikiProject Hockey membership) a few days ago. Why? Those diacritics that are still in the NHL team articles (i.e. the 'birthplaces' at the current rosters). See what I mean? I'm high strung. GoodDay (talk) 20:30, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Diacritics on the English-language Misplaced Pages

There has been a vote over whether to use diacritics on Misplaced Pages, and the result was inconclusively in favor (Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (use English)). Also, if you look at List of accented words in English language, you'll find that English does, in fact, use diacritics. Thirdly, there is a Wikiproject:Ice Hockey "compromise" at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Ice Hockey that says: "All Non-North American hockey pages: Should have diacritics applied (where required)." Therefore, you have absolutely no business reverting my edits to articles like the 2003 Men's World Ice Hockey Championships. Kindly stop trying to police Misplaced Pages, and if you're going to do so anyway, at least stick to what's been agreed on. Your on RGTraynor's talk page is pure rubbish. Thus far, Misplaced Pages uses diacritics everywhere except on "North American hockey pages", whatever that means. Your impression that diacritics are not English and should not be used on Misplaced Pages is purely your personal POV. If you insist on reverting edits I've made to pages that legitimately use diacritics, you're committing vandalism, because you're the one pushing a POV in defiance of consensus. Elrith (talk) 20:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

As a student of both German and Spanish, I have nothing against diacritics other than the fact that they appear foreign to native English speakers who use this site and are not necessary the number of instances that you wish them to be. Your point of directing me to List of accented words in English language is weak, as a large majority of these words are loanwords, that are simply un-Anglized foreign language words. Also, I fail to see how this, is incorrect. Furthermore, the vote at Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (use English) clearly states that the result was not a consensus, so you're stating that diacritics are protected by consesus is 100% false. But above all, your tone towards other Misplaced Pages editors has been nothing but rude and arrogant, unwilling to discuss the issue in a civil manner. Because of this, I kindly ask you to refrain from contacting me after this discussion. Grsz11 (talk) 21:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, it's wrong of you to judge my attitude toward other Misplaced Pages editors if you don't know the whole story, as you clearly don't in this case. Your comment is incorrect in the sense that you are claiming English does not use diacritics. It does. Hence the list of words in English that do. If you ignore that because they're loanwords, well, Teemu Selänne is certainly not an English name. Also, your statement that Misplaced Pages articles "should not use diacritics" is your own POV, not a Misplaced Pages policy. You're not entitled to revert other people's edits because you believe Misplaced Pages should not use diacritics. Elrith (talk) 21:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I see you have no response to your claims of consensus on diacritics. Grsz11 (talk) 21:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Is that all you have left to hide behind? I freely admit I was wrong, and in fact, there isn't a Misplaced Pages consensus to use diacriticals. Neither is there one against using them. As long as the matter is unresolved, I don't believe you're justified in reverting my edits. In the case of ice hockey player pages, there is a Wikiproject "consensus" in place, and several of your edits violated that consensus. Your reverting of my edits to 2003 Men's World Ice Hockey Championships, for instance, was completely unjustified. I want you to be aware of that, and stop making those kinds of reverts. Elrith (talk) 21:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Again with the arrogant and rude behavior. I think that your argument with List of accented words in English language is at best a small point, and you can't ignore the fact that very few (if any) of those words are originally English. Also, I think the fact that even the NHL omits diacritics, see here and here should be acknowledged.

I have stopped reverting (I only reverted a handful of edits), as it's clearly a hopeless effort. But that does not mean I still feel different about it. Grsz11 (talk) 21:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Then we have nothing further to disagree about. Although you may not believe it, I fully respect your opinion on diacritics. I just believe you're wrong. In my mind, it's of paramount importance to give people's full and correct names on Misplaced Pages, and that's why I'm pushing for diacriticals. The proper place to have the discussion on whether to use them or not is at Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (use English). Elrith (talk) 22:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Pressure Washer

Aye cheers, given the (very angry) comments in the edit summaries it seems that the user hasn't fully read the guidelines about EL. I will keep it in my watchlist.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 04:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Your edit

You ought to answer my question before I remove your "legitimate question" again.--STX 05:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage. Have a good one, Joelster (talk) 07:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Hagrid

Robbie Coltrane and Martin Bayfield both portray Hagrid. That information is required for a fictional character with film appearances. But information about Martin Bayfield being a stunt is not needed in the character's article. Another example could be Warwick Davis, the actor that portrays Flitwick: he also portrayed a Gringotts goblin, but there is no need to mention that in Flitwick's section. Information about Bayfield being a stunt should be placed in the List of cast members. --Lord Opeth (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

My mistake. I have just read some sources and articles, and he was not just "a stunt". He is "Hagrid's stunt", due to his size. I merely thought that he was an extra or a stunt playing a random wizard. With this information I think we can better create a section for "Film portrayal" with this information and that about Rowling imagining Robbie portraying Hagrid. --Lord Opeth (talk) 18:34, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Adminship request advice

Hi Grsz11! You can see my Rfa Requirements here. As you can see there you have just reached my requirements and would only have to give satisfying answers in your Rfa to gain my "support vote". However it should be noted that most people have higher Rfa requirements than I do. The first thing most people will as you about is your relatively low edits on Talk pages. Other than that you are doing quite well. Your user page is Rfa-friendly. Most Rfa contributers look for "geeky" stuff such as "Pages I created" and "Ongoing contribs". Then there is the famous Kurt Weber (or something like that) who will object to any self nomination and say something along the lines of "I view a self nom as prima facie evidence of power hunger". You can run for adminship as many time as you like so you can enter yourself whenever you feel ready. The up side is: Even if you dont pass the rfa you will be given lots of tips on how to suceed next time! When you feel ready I will nominate ýou, if you wish. That should prevent Kurt from opposing! Also you can check the percentage of votes here. Generally only rfa's with over 75 per cent pass. Any more questions, dont hesitate to ask! hope I have been of some help. --Camaeron (talk) 16:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC) PS: This page is also very helpful Misplaced Pages:GRFA!

I'll have a look tomorrow. Hope you don't mind. :P Rudget (?) 18:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Reverse overshot water wheel

Please replace my new article rather than redirecting to water wheels. It is quite a different device and intended to be used for drainage, and not for power. It is a bit like the Noria. Peterlewis (talk) 20:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

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Official Bracket

On the NCAA Tourney notes, the brackets officially list "Southern California", not USC even though they are the same iniaials used by the University of South Carolina. Also, Miami (Fla.) and St. Mary's (Calif.) are listed so that they aren't to be confused with simular named schools like Miami (Ohio) ot Mount St. Mary's. I made the changes to the official bracket in the article as a result. NoseNuggets (talk) 2:48 PM US EDT Mar 18 2008

I'm perfectly okay with that. As you can see, I left the Miami change when I reversed the others. I would however, prefer just the state's initials: FL and CA. Grsz 11 18:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

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My warning

You know there are two sides to an edit war. User:Mareklug has reverted my edits just like I've reverted his. Does he get warned too? --Tocino 05:09, 19 March 2008

Apologies that my fingers can't work at the speed desired. Grsz 11 05:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I have been losing my cool a lot because of this article. It is an emotional issue. --Tocino 05:32, 19 March 2008

3RR

I am not reverting, I am restoring one huge edit from several sources, after reverts by User:Tocino. Please look at what I am trying to do in the revision history of International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence.

I was working on a long table in the article and made many small edits in many places, and Tocino, questioning the Brazil segment (wrongly), was throwing away all my edits made elsewhere, while describing his revert with edit summaries implying he is editing locally on Brazil-related fragment... Please see talk page for explanation of the Brazil part. I also left a plea for help on ZScout's talk page, since he has some knowledge of what is going on here. --Mareklug 05:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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MAHL

There isn't any story saying that they are leaving in any official website.

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Why revert my Tampa edit

I had a source, and like I said under the picture, it said "Just call Tampa "Upset City." For the first time in NCAA tourney history a site's four lower-seeded teams advanced to the second round Friday."

From 98.215.91.6

It already had a source. And saying "look under the picture on this page" isn't a source. Grsz 11 14:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

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2008 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament

For the record, "Wazzu" is a common nickname for Washington State University, Miami (Florida) is different than Miami (Ohio) and there are two schools that go by the name of Xavier University - One in Cincinnati and one in New Orleans, and yes, the Cincinnati one is a regional rival with West Virginia.

Why did I bring these up? Because users of Misplaced Pages are encouraged to be creative. Thank you. NoseNuggets (talk) 1:18 AM US EDT Mar 24 2008

Neither Miami Ohio or Xavier NO are in the tournament. And saying Miami Hurricanes is just as good, even better, than saying Miami (FL). As far as the "regional rival" bit, it's irrelevant. There's no such thing. It would be different if they were "conference rivals" or "state rivals", but where do we stop before everybody is each others "US rival."

Ohio and West Virginia are neighbors. Cincinnati and West Virginia are Big East conference rivals, as also are Cincinnaiti and Xavier (who plays in the Atlantic 10) who have the annual "Skyline Chili Classic". However, the argument that Xavier and West Virginia are regional rivals is legit because of the geographic border. I could argue all night but I'm not. NoseNuggets (talk) 1:31 AM US EDT Mar 24 2008.

So because West Virginia plays Cincinnati, and Cincinnati plays Xavier, Xavier and West Virginia are rivals? Who cares if they share a geographical border. It is in no way relevant to the article or tournament, or much of anything at all. Grsz 11 05:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Meatpuppetry solicitation

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User:lookinhere

Chrislk02 blocked him for one hour, hopefully this will get his mind straight. Momusufan (talk) 19:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Somehow I doubt it. Grsz 11 19:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, i'm having second thoughts on that actually since it seems he thinks WE bullied him but we didn't. Momusufan (talk) 19:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

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AFD of James Avery (captain)

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WP:LINKSPAM

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Re: Lookinhere

If it's a repeated pattern (i.e., it's a long term abuse issue), take it to the incidents board of the administrators' noticeboard. The AIV noticeboard, however, is primarily there to deal with immediate problems with actual vandalism— not issues of civility. --slakr 20:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Wright

Yes, that is much better.thank you. --Die4Dixie 21:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for taking it. We all know the only controversy is how people took it. Grsz 11 21:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I have no problem with factual properly cited , non original research to be included. MAny weasel words are being inserted and the article is a joke as it stands.Most of my attempts have been in good faith on this article, but the lying about syphilis addition was over the top. I plead frustration with the tireless white washing going on on that page. Don't worry, I give and get it from both sides as you would see from my old comments on the talk page of Sean Hannity. I do think that it should be highlighted that his statements about the syphilitic infections are false and i invite you to look at the discussion page about the real estate issue to weigh in.--Die4Dixie 21:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Die4Dixie (talk • contribs)

jones' edits appear to be disruptive. I have asked for a cite that these were "Imprecations' and not his original research. I want a hard source cited that this is what it was. Am I so wrong? I thought you agreed, since you took it out.--Die4Dixie 23:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Die4Dixie (talk • contribs)

Thank God JP showed up to fix that. I'll try not to drink and edit on Friday nights any more. Looks like we might could work this out. I think I might ideological agree with some of Carlos' thoughts, but I think he would, as we all would, be better served try to do this on the talk page. I see you are a good faith editor, although we won't likely agree politically, and I see no reason we can't work together in good faith on this article. What say you?--Die4Dixie (talk) 18:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Not so sure it's his perceived beliefs. I think that the controversy are his beliefs.Maybe we ought to cite perceived. I'm not sure what would be disputed that he actually believes what he says. What might be disputed is the implications that such a large number of a significant minority in the US don't find this shocking and what it means long term for race relations.--Die4Dixie (talk) 19:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Penguins template

Oh, I thought they were just 'interims' (filling in for injured Roberts); sorry. GoodDay (talk) 22:27, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

But there is a chance, the Penguins might just continue with Roberts & Gonchar as alternate captains (upon Roberts return). GoodDay (talk) 22:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

My guess is: When Roberts returns? the lineup will be C- Crosby, A- Gonchar, A- Roberts. But we won't know until then. GoodDay (talk) 22:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Haha

Beats me, people make the most strangest of additions to articles sometimes Jammy (talk) 14:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's an idiotic notion not even worth addressing seriously

The idea that everything cited must be accessible online is, in fact, an utterly idiotic notion. That would mean books and journal articles are barred from Misplaced Pages. If that is so, then Misplaced Pages's commitment to amateurism is more endemic than even I had thought. CyberAnth (talk) 19:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

My apologies for addressing a policy I saw the other day. It's incredibly hypocritical of you go link to assume good faith and then make an attack like that. Grsz 11 19:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey, it's the idea, not you.  ;-) CyberAnth (talk) 20:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

what an unpleasant user he is.BTW, do you think that everyone must find something to be controversial to acknowledge that a controversy exists. I'm trying to work this through, and I'm not the brightest guy.--Die4Dixie (talk) 20:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Jeremiah Wright

I did explain my editing on the Jeremiah Wright page. Please don't lie.-Schlier22 (talk) 02:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Explaining doesn't make it okay to delete a large portion of relevant, sourced material no matter how much you disagree with it. Grsz 11 02:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I removed the material once, and then, realizing that this was not the best approach, added negative responses to the positive ones already listed. I hope you don't object to this.-Schlier22 (talk) 02:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't, as long as they're very reliable sources. Policy requires that criticism of living persons be from incredibly reliable sources, like the Times, the Associated Press, etc. Grsz 11 02:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

You ight want to visit the talk page where a consensus needs to be built.--Die4Dixie (talk) 17:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey , how did you make the edit war warning go away.. I saw it in your history, and I'm intrigued.--Die4Dixie (talk) 22:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

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