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FNC

Why not join the discussion to which an RFC has been started before coming in and giving a judgement. Arzel (talk) 21:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

What difference does it make whether my comment was in an edit summary or on the talk page? The point still stands. Gamaliel (Angry Mastodon! Run!) 21:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Upon further consideration, I have decided to add a comment to the talk page and join the conversation there. Gamaliel (Angry Mastodon! Run!) 21:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Review troll threatening you

I thought you might want to see this thread Raul654 (talk) 20:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I'm not surprised, as I blocked one of his many, many, many socks yesterday. I don't know why he posts at WR, even those guys don't take him seriously. To their credit, they even removed his post. Alas, I never got to see what he had in store for me in some back alley somewhere. Gamaliel (Angry Mastodon! Run!) 00:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Kitty Kelley

Hi there. Sorry about removing the slate.com link; I didn't think they were talking about a magazine because I've never heard of Slate magazine. My appologies. Happyme22 (talk) 04:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

No worries, it was easily fixed. Gamaliel (talk) 18:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

3RR is not a threat

Look carefully at the page history. There was nothing in it that resembles your simplistic, absurd version before I started improving the page a little bit. I was the first one to suggest a common-sense rule of Misplaced Pages etiquette - the discussion page. Your refusal to even open a discussion there is, in my view, a clear indication of your biased, unwholesome intentions on this matter to begin with. warshy (talk) 17:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I am perfectly willing to engage in discussion if you are willing to stop being so rude. And your contention that there was nothing in the article history that resembles my version is contracted by that very page history. Your preferred version didn't exist until December 2007. Gamaliel (talk) 17:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:3RR

I have blocked Warshy for 3RR violations on Marina Oswald Porter‎. I must point out that you are only one revert behind and that you are in danger of violating 3RR yourself if you continue. The discussion page for that article has not even been used. 1 != 2 17:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm aware of the rule, thanks. You'll note that I cautioned Warshy about it. As I told him repeatedly, I am perfectly willing to discuss proposed edits with Warshy once he stops being so rude. Gamaliel (talk) 17:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

user name change

Hello, I am interested to change my username from Uu610 to david55. Could you help me? Uu610 (talk) 06:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Your High Handed Attitude

It is clear from your history of arguments that you use your "status" to bully other users. I haven't abused you and I have not vandalised pages. I can't see what possible justification you have to threaten me in the way you have. You are clearly drunk with the power you apparently think you have. You really have no place here on Wp and I shall see what possible remedies I have to make a complaint against you. Albatross2147 (talk) 05:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

As I noted before, you are welcome to complain on the administrator's noticeboard about my reign of terror. Gamaliel (talk) 05:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Well for a start you should revert or at least strike out the insulting "Welcome" message you inserted on my talk page. I have been editing here longer than you for starters and even though you have "achieved" the status of acting unpaid "thief taker" or perhaps night watchman you are merely a servant rather than a superior and you would do well to remember that. Your use of first person plural in the welcome shows how weak and pompous you appear to have become. Albatross2147 (talk) 06:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Since you have been here so long then you are certainly aware of the no personal attacks policy. Your grievance does not give you license to insult me indefinitely. Please do not do so again. Gamaliel (talk) 06:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Since it was you that started with the vandalism etc accusations I would say this is a case of pot, kettle, black. I can't see how using the analogy of thief taker for the role that an admin carries out could be regarded as an insult given your use of the demi-mode image on your home page. I notice that as with the discussion on your reversions of my edits you do not address the real issues ie. you just do what you want to do and ride roughshod over a contrary view. Albatross2147 (talk) 06:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Yep, I'm just out to crush all opposing opinions. Ignorance is strength and all that. Now take it to the noticeboard or go away. Gamaliel (talk) 06:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Game, set and match I think. Thank you linesmen. Thank you ball boys. Albatross2147 (talk) 07:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations for your victory at Calvinball. Gamaliel (talk) 17:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Just FTR, I like your High Handed can-do attitude, Gamaliel. Keep up the good work. /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 07:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm glad someone around here appreciates crushing the opposition beneath your boot heel. Gamaliel (talk) 17:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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blumenthal's dwi

Hi. I agree that it's not significant enough for a seperate section, but doesn't a subsection mean it's part of a parent section? the dwi shouldn't be part of his career. Is there another way of minimizing the significance of the dwi? best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 13:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

It happened during his post-Clinton career, so that's sufficient to justify putting it there I think. Gamaliel (talk) 17:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe I'm overlawyering, but a dwi isn't part of career. But whatever. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 19:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

In that sense, no, it certainly isn't part of his employment nor did it happen on his job. But I am sure most people understand that in a chronological biographical article, a section covering a career will include personal items that happened during that time frame. An alternative is perhaps a separate section discussing his personal life, where you could place the dwi information as well as other personal information removed from other sections. Gamaliel (talk) 19:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

That makes sense. :-). --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 19:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Tom Harkin

There are now multiple sources for the statement, and I hope that’s enough to dissuade you from reverting it again. DJ Creamity 17:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

It is an improvement, thank you. However, the section still has neutrality issues which need work. Frankly, under WP:BLP it should still be removed, but since you seem willing to work on it now, I will refrain from removing it as long as we are continuing to steer it towards WP:NPOV. Gamaliel (talk)

John Gibson page

You claim criticisms (partisan opinions) of John Gibson are worthy of inclusion in his biography.

So can I now edit the bio page of every Democratic politician and liberal media personality ever criticized by Rush Limbaugh, so that those pages include Limbaugh's criticisms? Of course not! That would be idiotic. It's even more idiotic to include Olbermann's criticisms of Gibson because Olbermann doesn't even have a fraction of the audience Limbaugh has.

Furthermore, Olbermann is a competitor of Gibson. That, coupled with their opposing political leanings, make Olbermann about as unreliable a source as you can get.

It's an insignificant fact, unworthy of inclusion, that blatantly partisan personalities criticize their political opponents.

The Gibson bio is nothing more than a Media Matters talking point sheet amounting to a hit piece. And Media Matters is nothing more than an OPINION BLOG (which Hillary Clinton admitted to being a founder of).

I'm sorry liberals cannot find a legitimate news source to smear Gibson as a racist. I'm sorry that you have to resort to elevating opinion blogs to the status of CBS, Fox News, The New York Times, or any other REAL NEWS SOURCE.

Go ahead...turn Misplaced Pages into a blog if you must. You'll just hurt its credibility. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.209.240.6 (talk) 02:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Stripped free of contrary opinion, the page would be nothing more then a glorified press release for Gibson, which is what would really hurt the credibility of Misplaced Pages. The readers of Misplaced Pages expect a well-rounded article with opinions both pro and con, and WP:NPOV demands this. Gamaliel (talk) 02:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

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At the time I was blocked for 24 hours and I was looking for comment from what I thought might be unbiased, non-sockpuppet editors, and trustworthy administrators, almost at random. Now that some time has passed the evidence seems to be creeping in, but I would still like to know more administrators that I can say I don't distrust. GabrielVelasquez (talk) 17:54, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

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RfC Bot

I'm not entirely sure why my RfC on the trial of Clay shaw isn't being listed on the RfC list. Any help would be appreciated. Ramsquire 18:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

These RFC templates are new to me, but I'll try to fiddle around with it and see if I can get it to work. Gamaliel (talk) 17:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

The instructions on the tag-placing Wiki are not very clear. I've complained about this before and even tried to fix it. More work needed, I guess. The people who make up tags seem to think every user already knows how a tag works, and what it will do if you construct it a certain way. But are you supposed to create the new header? Does the tag go in the article TALK space you're making the request about (yes). Do you have to repeat the reason for your request twice, once in the tag template, and once below it, for the benefit of the parent page (apparently yes). All computer geeks believe their geek instructions are (or should be) perfectly clear to anybody with IQ over 70. SBHarris 04:25, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Phil McGraw address removal

Greetings,

I apologize for my ignorance regarding the policy on contact information. Ward3001 explained why the street address was removed:

I know you made the edit in good faith, but WP:BLP states that "articles should not include addresses, e-mail addresses, telephone numbers, or other contact information." I personally don't see a problem with including square footage, number of bedrooms, etc., although Gamaliel removed that also. Ward3001 Ward3001 (talk) 21:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Is there some reason why the square footage, number of bedrooms, etc. was removed along with the address? Wikeye (talk) 03:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes. I felt it was trivial and didn't feel it was encyclopedic, relevant, or of any importance. There probably isn't any prohibition against including such information, but if you wish to include it, I would pose these questions:

• Why is this information encyclopedic?
• What purpose does including this information serve?
• Do other similar Misplaced Pages articles include similar information?

I hope this answers your question. Gamaliel (talk) 17:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Why encyclopedic? Well, to me, "encyclopedic" commonly means "comprehensive", so I suppose some details of a home make the article more comprehensive or encyclopedic.

The purpose of including square footage and bedrooms is simple: to provide accurate, verifiable, interesting material to the reader. Saying that a house is worth $10 million can be misleading if the house is in Beverly Hills and the reader is in Peoria. A Peoria reader might think that the $10 million house is some kind of palace with 25 bedrooms or so, which is about what $10 million would get you in Peoria. So, the additional information puts everything in proper perspective.

Similar articles/similar information? Hmmm, the Oprah Winfrey article http://en.wikipedia.org/Oprah#Homes gives the number of square meters in her main estate, so I feel that's comparable to the number of square feet in McGraw's main residence. Also, the Shaquille O'Neal article http://en.wikipedia.org/Shaquille_o%27neal#Personal_life goes into even greater detail, giving detailed layout of a movie theater in O'Neal's residence.

Finally, this information "does no harm" and is pretty interesting, not to mention accurate and verifiable.

Wikeye (talk) 19:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

"Does no harm" is not a compelling reason for inclusion. Misplaced Pages is not a indiscriminate collection of information, and such trivia like the square footage of a person's home does not lead to a comprehensive encyclopedia, in my view. Apparently others disagree and I guess this kind of trivia tends to make its way into articles on prominent pop culture figures, though I think it should be removed unless there is something particularly noteworthy about some random celebrity's house. Gamaliel (talk) 20:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

According to the Misplaced Pages guideline that you cited, an indiscriminate collection of information includes the following:

1. Lists of Frequently Asked Questions

2. Plot summaries

3. Lyrics databases

4. Statistics (long and sprawling lists)

5. News reports

Now I admit that square footage and number of rooms may be considered statistics, but they do not constitute long and sprawling lists. Also, I've tried to explain that including this information is not necessarily trivial but gives the reader useful perspective on the house mentioned in the article. Apparently, we disagree on what constitutes trivia vs. comprehensive (i.e. encyclopedic) information. Wikeye (talk) 04:09, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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Page editing - Year of the Mouse

Hey,

I was trying to edit the pages that mention about Year of the Rat, which really should be Year of the Mouse. But my edits got reverted or removed, and I received a warning: “This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you vandalize Misplaced Pages, as you did to Chinese astrology, you will be blocked from editing. Wexcan Talk 01:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC) .”

I was just trying to let people know that the translation was inaccurate, it is really the Year of the Mouse, not Rat. This is the first time that I edited a Wiki page and I didn’t see your previous messages till this last one.

Is there any way that my edit can be saved?

Thanks a lot.

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Past CNN employee

Former CNN correspondent Taylor Henry (1986-1992), now News Director at KNOE-TV, Monroe, Louisiana, just won an Alfred I. duPont-Columbia University award for his investigative series on National Guard troops who looted stores they were deployed to protect during Katrina.

Please add his name to the list of "past" CNN personnel! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tasertote (talk • contribs) 00:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what article you are referring to here. Perhaps you could add the name to the list yourself? Gamaliel (talk) 00:35, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. I'm talking about the CNN article. For some reason, the page won't let me add the name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tasertote (talk • contribs) 00:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Oops, it appears I protected the article from editing and neglected to remove that protection. I've fixed the error and you should be able to edit the article now. Gamaliel (talk) 00:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry Gamaliel, I still can't access the page! Is it still locked?Tasertote (talk) 15:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tasertote (talk • contribs) 15:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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Jack Larson

Just to keep you in the loop: There seemed to be no response from others on the Biographies of Living Persons Notice Board, so I asked for input over at the No Original Research Board WP:NORN, and there's been some conversation there you should be aware of and part of. Regards. Monkeyzpop (talk) 23:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I didn't even know there was a No Original Research Noticeboard! Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I'll comment on the matter there tomorrow. Gamaliel (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

CNN page still locked

Yo, Gamaliel. The page is still locked. How can we unlock it to make the edit? Thank you for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tasertote (talk • contribs) 15:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm having some technical difficulties, I'll have to consult some other admins to figure out what's going on. Sorry about the delay but we should have this fixed soon. Gamaliel (talk) 20:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, you should be able to edit the article now. Gamaliel (talk) 00:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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Heads up

Looks like you've got some fans... noticed this thread in which you're being trashed. Why am I not surprised it's tied to Arzel? /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 20:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

It's just harmless venting from Chairman Meow, who doesn't seem to understand that the 3RR is a Misplaced Pages policy and not a liberal tool of oppression. Arzel doesn't have anything to do with it I suspect, as types like CM - quick to both dish out and take offense, sees political conspiracies everywhere - tend to seek out and (usually fruitlessly) attempt to recruit those they imagine are like-minded folks as allies for their cause. Gamaliel (talk) 20:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

If like-minded is his goal, I'd say he's well on target. I wasn't sure what the actual situation was, but I figured you'd want to know when your name is used in vain.  ;-) How's the new year treating ya? Haven't seen you around the usual haunts lately... /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 21:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Haha. lame guys, lame. Having a little powwow are we? I think both of you are in violation of WP:NPA. Seeing that you're claiming that I'm an idiot and that my position has no water. I really would appreciate it if you applied the same standards to yourselves as to me.Chairman Meow (talk) 21:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Neither one of us has called you an "idiot" or indulged in any sort of namecalling. If you feel that you have been the victim of a personal attack you may file a report at Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts or another relevant noticeboard, but you do not have license to indulge in namecalling yourself. I'm sorry that you find our comments unflattering, but your conduct towards other users has been far from exemplary. Gamaliel (talk) 01:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

In the News

Please respect the consensus on WP:ITN/C regarding the wording for the Pakistani elections as well as the inclusion of Wikileaks. Madcoverboy (talk) 06:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

There seems to be significant opposition to the inclusion of Wikileaks. I have no objection to changing the wording for the Pakistani item. Gamaliel (talk) 06:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I count 5 support - 2 oppose - 1 neutral. Let's let the strong opposes and supports cancel, it's still 4-1-1. I'm note saying it's a vote, but several of these supports are regular and respected contributors. Also as noted on WP:ITN/C re: Google News, Sydney Herald, Register, Guardian, USA Today, CNET are all covering this. Madcoverboy (talk) 06:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Including Talk:Main_Page#Wikileaks (2 oppose 1 support keeping) and Wikipedia_talk:ITN#Wikilinks (2 oppose 1 support, and me who also opposed at ITNC) you get 7 support, 6 oppose, one neutral (note: I didn't look for double votes which weren't my own). Charles Stewart (talk) 07:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Mad Props to you. Few people really look at ITN/C unless they want to propose something. But when something awful makes the main page, people will complain everywhere. That's what happened here. Charles Stewart (talk) 06:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Sue Coe

I am removing your tag (advertisement/speedy deletion) that you put on Sue Coe. The article needs citations, I agree, but it is not a blatant advertisement, just in need of a rewrite for wiki-format.Annlanding (talk) 00:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC)Annlanding

It is in need of a rewrite because it reads like a press release or promotional biography, and is probably copied from one. I strongly disagree, but I'm not going to edit war over some tag. Gamaliel (talk) 00:51, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Some of the material is copied from http://web.archive.org/web/20061030011850/http://www.valleynewsonline.com/News/2002/0302/Entertainment-Arts/009.html. Gamaliel (talk) 00:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

That's good. I don't think this has the machinations for an edit war- but the random rewrite does not address the issue of citations missing from the piece. I'll see what else I can pull out on her that will bring the piece up to speed- quotes from her retrospective at the Hirschorn Gallery in Washington, D.C., etc...Annlanding (talk) 15:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)Annlanding

Since I've removed the copyvios and the puffery, I'm pretty content with the article. It needs improvement, of course, but now it's just a standard WP article in need of beefing up instead of some piece of resumecruft. I look forward to seeing what you do with it. Gamaliel (talk) 15:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Orville Schell

uh, don't know what your problem is re: orville schell, the link works fine, and i'm just fixing false outdated information. if you prefer it wrong, fine with me. if you'd care to explain nicely what i've done wrong i'm happy to fix it, but taking a tone and being a prissy internet police guy, esp when you're wrong, seems a little silly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nhgrrl (talk • contribs) 10:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

uh, don't know what your problem is re: orville schell, the link works fine, and i'm just fixing false outdated information. if you prefer it wrong, fine with me. if you'd care to explain nicely what i've done wrong i'm happy to fix it, but taking a tone and being a prissy internet police guy, esp when you're wrong, seems a little silly. Nhgrrl (talk) 10:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Just look at your edits and you will see that you, purposely or not, altered the urls multiple times. I stated this clearly and politely to you multiple times. There's no need for your attitude. Gamaliel (talk) 16:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Request for editing help

Knowing that you sometimes descend into the cesspool of politician articles, I wonder if you'd have time to take a look at Dean A. Hrbacek. The bio subject is a Republican candidate in Texas. The article is being relentless edited by a user who removes sourced negative information about Hrbacek, adds negative information about people who've opposed Hrbacek, and removes "citation needed" tags for passages touting Hrbacek's accomplishments in glowing terms. You probably won't be surprised to learn that the user never discusses his/her changes on the talk page, although I've asked (see User talk:Jbgtx). It might help if someone else weighed in. Also, although I've made some other improvements besides reverting the problem user, I'm worried about breaking the spirit or the letter of 3RR if I have to keep patrolling the article solo. Thanks for any help you can give! JamesMLane t c 18:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I've glanced at the article and when I have a chance I'll have a word with some of the newbies. Do you think they are socks or do they act independently? Gamaliel (talk) 19:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! As for the newbies, my guess is that they're separate people but both active in the Hrbacek campaign. JamesMLane t c 19:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad you could take a look at it. You're right that the discussion of the photoshop controversy is more than a little cryptic. That's because the original version, which actually explained it, was deleted, in favor of language less damning of Hrbacek. I'll try to restore the context.

Also eliminated, and still not restored, was the section on "Hrbacek's charges against Olson" as found in this version. It seems to me to be properly sourced and worth inclusion, but I'd value your opinion. JamesMLane t c 21:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

This nonsense is neverending. There are people with a personal axe to grind against this individual & continually try to vandalize this page. It's a neverending saga that is old. The comment above also relates to 1/10th of a story that people with an agenda try to push. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qp10io1011 (talk • contribs)

Once again I must remind you that it is inappropriate to make unwarranted accusations against other editors. This is a collaborative project and such combative behavior is out of line. If you feel that the article contains inappropriate content, you can discuss it on the talk page in a calm and respectful manner with other editors. Gamaliel (talk) 04:54, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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Helped you out

Was just looking at the recent changes page and when i saw writing in capital letters you almost know its a vandal. This is what the person wrote I think you should give him a warning, its the first edit. Looking at your page, you seem to make a lot of people angry like the above comments, are you sure your using NPOV? As long as your doing that and since your an admin, i trust you:) Roadrunnerz45 (talk) 09:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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Tally-ho!

Good to see you back in the trenches! You'd think after so many years I'd cease being astonished when they dart out from under their bridges... /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 21:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

It's tiresome to fight the same fights over and over again, but I guess someone has to do it. You'd think that I would have developed a thicker skin for these kinds of trollish attacks by now. Oh, well. Maybe we should take a vacation and find a peaceful, non-contentious article to collaborate on. If there is such a thing on Misplaced Pages... Gamaliel (talk) 19:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Honestly, I'm glad you've returned... for a while I felt like the only sane editor who still dares fight the good fight there. I'm all ears should you have a suggestion for peaceful collaboration. Glad to see the RFCU/SSP worked out, though I have a feeling this is a long way from over. /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 21:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

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OK...I need a brief refresher on the FNC page

So I come back from a nice two week vacation, and I see a request for comment on my talk page from a user Jsn. Before commenting I decide to skim the discussion and I notice a section title similar to the type our old pal RPJ used to use. So I edit it and put a general comment explaining it as uncivil and such. It turns out that it was in response to a title by Blaxthos that I didn't see--clearly my mistake. So I'm accused of having a POV and playing favorites. In response, I explain the mistake and simply state that instead of accusing me of stuff he could have asked what the deal was. It appears that that message has been lost in translation or something, becuase he's deleting the section to "spare my credibility" and apologizing for causing me angst, which just seems way overboard. You seemed to have some history with this user so I'm wondering is it me, him, or am I in bizarro world or something. Ramsquire 18:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)