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Smert' spamionem! This user is a member of WikiProject Spam.

I check in most mornings and most evenings, and occasionally some days during the day. I am on UK time (I can see Greenwich Royal Observatory from my new office). If you post a reply at 8pm EST and get no reply by 10pm, it's likely because I'm asleep. My wiki interests at the moment are limited. I still handle some OTRS tickets.

I am under considerable personal stress at the moment; my father died and I have a lot of other stuff going on in RL including a new job as senior engineer for enterprise storage and virtual infrastructure in a Fortune 500 company. Great job, lots of shiny expensive toys, big responsibility. But Misplaced Pages is still one of my top hobbies, and I come here to do what I can. I respond much better to polite requests than to demands. People who taunt me with "I dare you to block me" may have cause to regret it, as may I. Don't even think of trying to drag me into one of the many cesspits this project offers, I will likely choose only those disputes where I don't actually care too much. Not coming to your party? It's because I've decided it will make me unhappy. Sorry about that.

Above all, please do not try to provoke me to anger, it's not difficult to do, so it's not in the least bit clever, and experience indicates that some at least who deliberately make my life more miserable than it needs to be, have been banned and stayed that way. Make an effort to assume good faith and let's see if we can't get along. Guy (Help!) 22:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

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• My take on the Durova incident.

Note to self

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Istria&diff=192329190&oldid=189359747

Resolved tag

On the AN/I section. I removed it, as I think people are still commenting. I certainly would like to see an explanation, as would, it appears, others. --Relata refero (disp.) 15:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I think somebody else had the same idea, so I was edit conflicted on AN/I as I wrote this note. :) --Relata refero (disp.) 15:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

• How silly of me not to realise that what we really need most of all is MOAR DRAMAH. Guy (Help!) 17:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Guy, we need less drama, more experts. And premature archiving never creates less drama, you must have noticed that by now.... --Relata refero (disp.) 18:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

We need more experts, not more "experts". Think user:Jon Awbrey. Guy (Help!) 21:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Dear God, yes. But even the sane ones tend to be older and more accustomed to talking at length without being interrupted, so the AfD in question was guaranteed to, first, get them riled, and second, drive them away.... --Relata refero (disp.) 00:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. I have dealt with some on OTRS. It can also be extremely difficult to get them to accept that academic publishing is not like Misplaced Pages - orignal research is good in academia, and citing personal communications from respected experts is perfectly acceptable. Plus, crap is simply ignored or excised, not documented as an "alternative theory". Guy (Help!) 21:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

You have mail. --Relata refero (disp.) 21:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

-phyte

Hi. I'm trying to track down the transwikied content of -phyte and am having trouble (not the wiktionary page but the content that was here and now isn't, and should be findable at transwiki but isn't). I see from page histories that you had some involvement in the transwikiing, so thought you may be able to help. Thanks in advance. SP-KP (talk) 16:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

• You got mail. Guy (Help!) 16:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks SP-KP (talk) 17:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC) Follow-up - could I be a real nuisance and ask you to track down zoo-, -zoan, myco- and -mycete as well? Thanks SP-KP (talk) 18:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

• Remind me if I haven't done it by the end of Monday. Guy (Help!) 21:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

a helpful thing to do

It was bound to happen. Only letting you know I think it was the helpful thing to do. Gwen Gale (talk) 17:15, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, I reviewed a lot of edits and concluded that this is someone who is probably unable to work harmoniously here due to irreconcilable philosophical differences. Experience shows that racists cause and experience much friction on Misplaced Pages. We are not good at accommodating bigotry. Guy (Help!) 17:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

My RFA has closed

My RFA that you weighed in on earlier has closed as no consensus to promote, at a final tally of 120/47/13. I thank you for your feedback and comments there, and I'm going to be considering all the various advice and comments presented. I might end up at RFA again some day, or not. If you see me there again in the future, perhaps you might consider a Support !vote. If not, not, and no hard feelings. The pen is still mightier than the mop! See you around, and thanks again. Lawrence § t/e 18:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Your blocking of user: Piercetheorganist was well deserved and long overdue! I was exasperated by his constant and sometimes very subtle pushing of a blatantly racist agenda. I appreciate you taking the action that you did! cheers! --Tom (talk) 21:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

CoI on Criticism of Misplaced Pages

JzG, I'm afraid your removal of content from Criticism of Misplaced Pages here may represent of a conflict of interest on your part given your role in operating the mailing list(s) criticized in the Register article. I strongly ask you recuse yourself from this subject, as it's generally difficult for someone in such a position to write and edit objectively on a subject they're so involved in. krimpet✽ 17:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

• Not as far as I can tell, since it does not criticise me. Its inclusion was a COI, of course, since it was Charles Ainsworth and Dan Tobias who argued for its inclusion while asserting that I had a COI in wanting it out, but that was just a bit of deflection on their part I think. I did read the emails that Ainsworth discussed in his interview with Metz, and know that Ainsworth grossly misrepresented them, and I also remember debates on wikien-l where every single person who had been in receipt of the mails told Ainsworth he was wrong about them, so this does look to me like trying to launder a lie, and a lie that had been authoritatively rebutted, by passing it to a sympathetic axe-grinder, and that's why I think it's unreliable in context. I was only assigned ownership of one of the lists later, and not for very long, either. I am, of course, strongly opposed to conspiracy theories as a genre, and that's what this was: a conspiracy theory built on a bad misjudgment by one admin. Publishing conspiracy theories which have not had any critique outside the primary publishing source is fraught with difficulty. Naturally, if you can cite the sources which give a more balanced view of both sides of that particular battle, then we can cite them, but I don't think individual editors should get to have thier views included in mainspace as "fact" when they are both false and (more importantly) not subject to any kind of independent critical review. Guy (Help!) 17:11, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Patrick T. McHenry

The part fo the data that cause the page lock was the blog allegations that McHenry was somehow responsible for 3 deaths in the Green Zone... everything elase was accyratly sourced and noteworthy as itwasreportedby several news sources... please revert the article to this version. Otherwise, you've removed properly cited information.--Dr who1975 (talk) 19:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

• Being "cited" is not a magic talisman to ward off WP:UNDUE and WP:BLP. Guy (Help!) 19:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou

Thankyou for spending so much of your own time on my case when you didn't have to. Realist2 (talk) 19:24, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

• My pleasure. Nice to be able to help someone, in fact. Guy (Help!) 19:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

God on earth, they are still talking about me at ANI, ill be famous in days at this rate, my talk page has seen more traffic this week than in an entire year. Realist2 (talk) 22:17, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

• Believe me, mate, when we set out to examine our navels, we get the microscopes out. Guy (Help!) 22:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Ha sounds like a pain stacking job, i will leave you in peace, we might cross paths again, hope under better circumstances, this is a wierd way to spend my 9001th edit at wiki. Realist2 (talk) 22:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Lerner

Please see my comment here. Even if you disagree with me, it does absolutely no harm to refactor your comment so I hope you will do so. Thanks.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 01:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

State terrorism and the US

Can you check the start of this edit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=State_terrorism_and_the_United_States&diff=205625876&oldid=205533853

You've reverted the content of the first three paragraphs in a way that removed useful links and typo fixes. --Ryan Paddy (talk) 20:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Sorry about that, I'll fix it now. Guy (Help!) 21:15, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Bombing of Tokyo in World War II

Guy, in total 10 million civilians died in Japan from firebombing 70 cities and the two nuclear bombs with many radiation deaths after the event. User_talk:Igorberger#Pic You do not consider this as Allegations of state terrorism by the United States Igor Berger (talk) 20:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• Not in the context of the time and a state of total war then existing, not I don't. I consider the Nagasaki bomb an atrocity (Hiroshima was enough) but I do not apply 21st century rationales and hindsight to what was beyond question an act of of war. Guy (Help!) 21:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Greif article

Sorry, but I don't understand what you're doing. These are references directly linked to the article and are not spam. They are not 'selling' anything. These references, upon re-write, will be incorporated into the body of the article via citations. A Sniper (talk) 21:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• It has been spammed across multiple projects and is going on the blacklist. It is not appropriate as a source anyway, per WP:RS. Guy (Help!) 21:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Technocracy movement

An editor put back the links you took out in external links and put this statement in the Technocracy movement ( In addition, the Network of European Technocrats aims for the creation of a European Technate, although the group has not yet finalised the area of this entity (most likely, other areas then just Europe would be needed ). Would you mind editing this article again to perhaps get rid of the extraneous links again and delete the NET material ? skip sievert (talk) 22:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I just went ahead and changed it. skip sievert (talk) 22:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Your modification in de:Impaled Nazerene

Sorry, I don't know why this metal-magazine is on the spam-list now. The link is used as a reference. So, please, unless you got a better link, leave the reference there. --Gripweed-de (talk) 22:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

• It has been spammed across multiple projects, is not a reliable source, and is now in the blacklist. Guy (Help!) 22:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

April 2008

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did to Eric Greif. Your edits appeared to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Blizzard Beast 23:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

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