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How to add a copyright tag to an existing image

1. On the description page of the image (the one whose name starts File:), click Edit this page.
2. From the page Misplaced Pages:File copyright tags, choose the appropriate tag:
   • For work you created yourself, use one of the ones listed under the heading "For image creators".
   • For a work downloaded from the internet, please understand that the vast majority of images from the internet are not appropriate for use on Misplaced Pages. Exceptions include images from flickr that have an acceptable license, images that are in the public domain because of their age or because they were created by the United States federal government, or images used under a claim of fair use. If you do not know what you are doing, please post a link to the image here and ask BEFORE uploading it.
   • For an image created by someone else who has licensed their image under an acceptable Creative Commons or other free license, or has released their image into the public domain, this permission must be documented. Please see Requesting copyright permission for more information.
3. Type the name of the tag (e.g.; {{Cc-by-4.0}}), not forgetting {{ before and }} after, in the edit box on the image's description page.
4. Remove any existing tag complaining that the image has no tag (for example, {{untagged}})
5. Hit Publish changes.
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Romainia Please help

I am doing a report a Romainia i was wondering if i should do it on like the culture Religon Eductaion. I have a Romainiain Fried that will help me but i need to pick something please he;p soon. i need to know now.thanks

You may get an answer if you ask the Reference desk

jhangir khan

<who mad the first documentry programme on jhangir khan who is a squash player of pakistan?>

Image of a wireless transmittor from circa 1910

I would like to use this image in an article, but I am unclear on the licensing. If it was produced in the USA, I would say it is in PD, but since it was produced in France, I can't figure out what to do. There's no assertion of copyright on the source pages. Any ideas, or maybe suggestions where to find a suitable image? Thanks Yngvarr (c) 21:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, copyright in France runs for the life of the author plus 70 years, which means that unless you can assert that the photographer died in 1937 or earlier, you can't declare the image to be in the public domain. It might be worth e-mailing the website to see what they know about the photo. Alternatively, do any such transmitters still exist? If so, try to find somebody who can take a picture of one and release it under a free license. If not, you may have a case for fair use of a copyrighted image. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 00:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

That clause only applies if the author is known and named. Different clauses apply if the author of the work is not known. This is common sense, if you think about it, because if no-one claimed copyright at the time, and no-one currently claims copyright, then how likely is it that anyone in the future will claim copyright? Copyright law is not intended to leave huge numbers of pictures of uncertain origin and uncertain authorship in limbo for ever. See Template:PD-EU-no author disclosure. Carcharoth (talk) 12:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Develop image cleanup project

Help is needed to develop an "image cleanup month" (June). The goal is to "Educate, cleanup and move images here at Misplaced Pages". You don't need to be an expert or knowledgeable about images here to help. Need folks who can write well, copyedit, design connections/templates, organize, group, communicate, have connections to users to help advertise (once the month starts) or just want to help in any other capacity. Not knowing about images would be helpful as we can test our pages on you. Being knowledgeable you can help write the content. See the project central location at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Image Monitoring Group#Misplaced Pages Image Cleanup Month (June) and dive right in to help. MECU≈talk 17:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

"The first fatality of the October 14 incident being winched atop the Democracy Monument."

Image:The first fatality of the October 14 incident being winched atop the Democracy Monument.jpgThis b&w photo was scanned from page 199 of "Democracy, shaken & stirred : a novel" by Win Lyovarin, translated by Prisna Boonsinsukh (2003) ISBN 978-974-90404-7-8. The caption is from page 198. There are no photo credits anywhere in the book. I don't know what license to use. Fair-use rationale: This photo vividly illustrates incidents described in History of Thailand (1932–1973)#The_1973_democracy_movement and in Democracy Monument, Bangkok. It is also pertinent to Thammasat_University#Seal. I contacted Win Lyovarin at his (Thai) "Talk to Win" page; he responded that he doesn't recall, and suggested I move my questions to his (Thai) Bookworm Conversation page. My Thai isn't all that good, so I thought I'd try here first. Pawyilee (talk) 17:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. There's no Thailand-specific info at Commons:COM:L, so I'm going to guess it's a 70-year pma rule. You can slap {{non-free fair use in}} on it and write up a good fair use rationale. howcheng {chat} 17:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

{{Non-free historic image}} probably is more specific than the catch-all "use in". Carcharoth (talk) 22:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

...I don't know HOW to copyright tag my picture...

I took the picture myself, and it is of myself. How would i copyright tag that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakedemian (talk • contribs) 22:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Every picture you take is automatically copyrighted to you(unless it's a copy of someone else's copyrighted work). To allow use on Misplaced Pages, you just need to decide under which conditions you will make it available to the world. See WP:ICTIC --Rat at WikiFur (talk) 22:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Dragonball online...i have some questions about it,help/answer

i was thinking...about dragonball online..and i want 2 ask: 1)Can human in that game transform into..something,like sayians into a super sayian?? 2)when will it come to europe?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tottika (talk • contribs) 19:01, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. MECU≈talk 19:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Image for Crush 40

Hi. I recently had a picture taken down of the band Crush 40 because both members of the band are still alive, so a free version might possibly exist, and I was claiming fair use on the image. Now, I respected them taking it down and didn't put up any fight with it, but it's impossible for me to find any free equivalent because the band does not tour or perform at any live shows, and they do not get together often (all of the members have commitments to other projects, though the band is still technically active). Given this situation, and that such an image would be used only in an encyclopedic manner and would not have any influence on their record sales and such, would it be possible to make a legitimate claim of fair use for an image of them? The picture of them I have in mind is just of the two main band members (since no picture of all four of them together exists to my knowledge), but I can't link it because it is from the band's MySpace page. By the way, this article is listed at WP:GAN, so the faster this is resolved, the better. Thanks for your help. Red Phoenix (Talk) 20:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No. It doesn't matter how difficult it is to find or create a free image, but only where it's possible. Have you sent a request to the band asking for them to license an image freely? They may be willing to do so, especially to get more "publicity" by having their image on Misplaced Pages. Take a look at WP:COPYREQ for how and what to ask and what to do if they grant a free license. Also, have you looked at http://www.flickr.com ? Even if you find an image that's not free, you can ask the user to change the license to a free one (or grant us one via email like COPYREQ) and then we can use that one. Maybe then try all the other websites that you can find images of them and request a license. I know it sounds like a lot of work, but really it's not. Keep trying, but in the end, even if you are unsuccessful, there's no requirement to have an image to pass GA and there's no requirement to have an image NOW!, so be patient and keep trying. Good luck! MECU≈talk 23:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, well, at least I know. Thanks for the info, I guess I better start looking. Red Phoenix (Talk) 01:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

download

can i download a song from here without paying any money or do i have to pay money216.188.241.218 (talk) 22:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

You can't download a song from Misplaced Pages. You've definitely got the wrong site, and even if Misplaced Pages did offer downloads, it would be monitored by Misplaced Pages's strict adherence to copyright law. Red Phoenix (Talk) 23:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, we do have a lot of free music. Start by looking at commons:Category:Music. It won't be anything recent due to copyright laws, but there is lots of music there. And of course if you find it here, it's free (unless it's uploaded illegally, which should be a rare occurrence). MECU≈talk 23:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Why not use noncommercial licensed images? (a rant)

I imagine this has been discussed before ;-} -- but I just learned (to my considerable annoyance) that the l5 or so photos I'd uploaded (and cropped and massaged...) today, from the very nice LA Times photographic archive, were subject to the NONCOMMERCIAL CC 3.0 license, and not the straight CC 3.0 license I'd thought they were. Sigh. All but one are historic photos, and so usable as Fair Use stuff, but still --- what a pain to go back and change all the licenses, generate FURS, etc etc. Not to mention annoying an administrator or two....

OK, I can hear the world's smallest violin-of-sympathy -- but howcome Wikimedia Foundation, a non-profit organization in the state of Florida (USA) which operates Misplaced Pages, can't use CC noncommercial-licensed stuff? Here's the license in question: which defines commercial use as use "in any manner that is primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or private monetary compensation." Which fersure ain't us chickens.

I suppose the argument is, all WP stuff is supposed to be FREE FREE FREE. But it isn't. WP has thousands of fair-use images (etc) that absolutely CAN'T be reused freely. It sez so, right on the license:

dah dah dah "qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Any other uses of this image, on Misplaced Pages or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement... "

So why not put similar boilerplate on noncom-licensed stuff and be done with it? Stubbornness? Inertia? Sacred Walesian Texts??

"It's a sin to waste the editor's time" (apologies to Larry Niven)

Grumpily, Pete Tillman (talk) 04:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

dern, forgot to give you all an example: "Authorities meet to discuss the Zoot Suit Riots" I mean, is that a headline, or what?

-- and don't miss this puppy. Can we get more postwar California than this? Note that UCLA catalogs this photo as "Man-woman relationships--California--Los Angeles"... Ayup. Pete Tillman (talk) 04:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

This has been discussed many a time. Put simply, it's not about "a non-profit organization in the state of Florida" (though note that non-profits do sometimes engage in commercial activity), but about every reuser. You are correct that non-free (i.e. fair use) images can't be used freely, which is why we're trying to limit them. Superm401 - Talk 04:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

The issue of noncommercial licenses was brought up at WT:Non-free content/Archive 34#Creative Commons vs. Fair-Use. Images under the noncommercial license are essentially fair use images. Considering they're more "free" than an "all rights reserved" image, it's allowed as long as it meets the criteria in WP:NFCC. It was added to the speedy deletion criteria because people could easily confuse it with a free Creative Commons license. Spellcast (talk) 17:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

As I did -- thanks for the info & link. It would probably be a good idea to add something specific re this on the image tutorial -- but, in truth, the whole image thing is a minefield, especially when fair-use is involved, and probably the next guy will learn by screwing up, too... <rueful grin> --Cheers Pete Tillman (talk) 17:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

One could question whether noncommercial-licensed material should be "speedily deleted" -- since use of such material on Misplaced Pages is explicitly permitted by the license! Shooting ourselves in the foot again?

Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 01:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

what are some points that we need to be aeare of when we are producing yest products

what are some points that we need to be aeare of when we are producing yest products —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darshan291983 (talk • contribs) 04:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

the pointy heads? Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 04:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. MECU≈talk 21:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Rights for image to : Alberto VARGAS "LADY IN RED"

Hello, We are interesting by an picture of Alberto VARGAS for a local city advertising in France. We have 132 posters 400 x 300 cm for seven days and display for same time. Can you to say me how much are the royalties. Thank you for your answer. Best regards

Alain ROLLAND

Phone : (removed) e.mail : (removed) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.209.56.139 (talk) 07:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

What image are you talking about? Please be sure to link to it like this: ]. It's quite possibly free and there would be no royalties involved. But it might be used under fair use which then you shouldn't use it for your publication. Without knowing the exact image, we can't help you further. MECU≈talk 21:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the online 💕 that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. —teb728 t c 22:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Sloan Digital Sky Survey images

Hello,

The policy for use is here and states:

Any SDSS image on the SDSS Web site may be downloaded, linked to, or otherwise used for non-commercial purposes provided that you agree to the following conditions:

• You must maintain the image credits. Unless otherwise stated, images should be credited to the Sloan Digital Sky Survey.
• Your use of the image cannot be construed as an endorsement of any product or service.

Can we use these images and if so, under what process? Creative Commons? Thanks. WilliamKF (talk) 15:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

No, they can't be used here. The page says "SDSS Images may not be used for any commercial publication or other commercial purpose except with explicit approval by the Astrophysical Research Consortium(ARC)", and Misplaced Pages doesn't accept non-commercial images, except possibly under fair use. --Rat at WikiFur (talk) 19:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

State Legislative District Images

What copyright license label do we use for state legislative district images? I am thinking about posting California's state legislative districts on their pages. Here is an image of California's 1st Senate District: http://republican.sen.ca.gov/web/1/images/SD01_2004.jpg Socal gal at heart (talk) 20:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Absent any declaration to the contrary on the websites hosting those images (I was unable to find any such declaration), I would say they're clearly copyrighted, unlicensed, and unsuitable for use on Misplaced Pages. Cheers, Sarcasticidealist (talk) 21:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Politicians are typically willing to relicense an image freely for us to use. You should definitely inquire about getting a free license. See WP:COPYREQ for how and what to ask and what do then do. Otherwise, Sarcasticidealist is right. MECU≈talk 21:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering: since district boundaries are a matter of public record there is presumably nothing to stop an editor creating their own map from that information and releasing it under a free license, even though such a map will inherently be almost a copy of the official one, correct? -- Hux (talk) 00:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

As long as we don't copy the style of that image, yes. There's a federal website/agency that has all kinds of maps of districts and states and counties and such. Search around on similar articles until you find such a map and try and get it from there might be a good idea. MECU≈talk 12:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Photo Help

Hello I am working on the wikipedia page for Dean Karr and I got a copyright error on one of the photographs uploaded I am trying to understand how to make sure that the system is aware that I have permission from Dean to create this page and use the images accordingly. However, as I am learning this all as I go, I am unclear how to tag the photo as being Okay. Thank you.

this is the image in question Image:Deancrashinto.jpg

Rikki Sixx Rikkisixx (talk) 23:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

What did you get permission for? Misplaced Pages doesn't accept images that are permission for Misplaced Pages only. See WP:COPYREQ --Rat at WikiFur (talk) 00:17, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Very old photo

Found photo taken in 1886 in on-line version of National Park Service history report. Since original photo was taken before 1923 (probably by U.S. Geological Survey team) think image is probably Public Domain. However, photo caption in NPS report says "...Coutesy of Oregon Historical Society." Are there any special restriction that apply when old photo has that kind of note or is this photo simply Public Domain?--Orygun (talk) 02:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Hard to say. It might be public domain by virtue of its age, but then again it might not since it's possible that the photographer died less than 70 years ago. Why not email the Oregon Historical Society and ask for details of the photographer? -- Hux (talk) 03:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

1923 is sort of a "magic date" for US copyright. As long as it was published before 1923, it's Public Domain. Of course it's polite to acknowledge the people who archived it and digitized it. --Rat at WikiFur (talk) 07:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Thought there might be some nuance to consider--thanks--Orygun (talk) 00:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Youtube link to a video in Abbas Kiarostami

a user added a youtube link to a video in Abbas Kiarostami article which was reverted by me (see diff). I felt that it was a copyright violation. but the user added it back in the article (see diff). The issue was raised on the talk page of the article. WP:COPYRIGHT#Linking to copyrighted works states that "if you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work". I believe that the movie is copyrighted work and an external website (in this case youtube) is carrying the movie clip in violation of the creator's copyright. So thats why we shd not link to it. However, other users are in favor of keeping the link. I would like to get an experienced editor's opinion on this. Gprince007 (talk) 11:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the link should go and you are absolutely correct. We should almost never link to Youtube. There used to be a bot running around removing such links. If it stays, it will eventually get removed. MECU≈talk 12:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, MECU is right. I removed the link and added a note on the talk page explaining this. Hopefully the editors there won't add it back again. -- Hux (talk) 20:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyright of CSS

Hello, I have created the following "infobar", based on the infobox CSS class from MediaWiki:Common.css, and some templates which vanished in the process. There is no remaining trace to the templates (I used them only for grasping how infoboxes work) and I tried to avoid as much style as possible. What remains is just a wiki-table, whose style attribute closely resembles (and copies part of) the above-mentioned CSS class. Is it still under GFDL? (because it is, in some sense, a derivative work of MediaWiki:Common.css) or am I being paranoid?

If it is under GFDL, does the license apply to the infobox itself, or does it also applies to any article where I transclude it?. I would like to use in other wiki whose license is not specified. Thanks you.

<!--some CSS style was borrowed from http://en.wikipedia.org/MediaWiki:Common.css-->
{|style="border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f8f8f8; color: black; float: right; clear: right; width: 15em;"
!style="background-color:#ccccff; padding-left:5px; text-align:left"|A VERY LONG TITLE
|- 
|]
|- 
|]
|}

Rjgodoy (talk) 15:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there's an issue with copyright on this sort of coding here. Lara❤Love 17:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Question re: uploading an image

I am constructing a Misplaced Pages bio for a music promoter. I wish to include a poster of a concert that his company promoted. The subject of the bio, and head of the promotion company, has given verbal authorization to post the image of the poster in his bio. Not sure what heading this would fall under and whether or not formal, written authorization from him is needed. The image is also posted on his personal website and that of his new company (a company different from the promotion company, which no longer exists)

What steps do I need to take to post that image (right now I'm presently building the site in my personal sandbox) without getting notice from Misplaced Pages that the image will be removed.

Please advise. Thank you

James Hicks San Francisco

21:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)~~

Hi James - unfortunately, permission for use of the image in Misplaced Pages is insufficient. The copyright holder must agree to license it under the GNU Free Documentation License or a comparably free license, allowing unlimited re-use (including of derivative works), with the only allowable restriction being a requirement of proper attribution. I hope this helps. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 23:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

The other possibility, it it meets all the Non-free content criteria, is to use it under a claim of fair use. --Rat at WikiFur (talk) 23:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, while this is not relevant to your copyright question, you may run into problems with the article in general if the community does not deem the person sufficiently notable. A promoter like Bill Graham, for example, would meet such a standard. A random promoter in general? Not so much. ;) -- Hux (talk) 05:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair fair use

Fair use terms apply to any wikipedia language, or only to english, or doesnt matter?. because fair use only could be apply in the USA, im wondering: can i use a photo published in the united states for spanish wikipedia version, can i use on english wikipedia version a photo from anywhere, or because wikipedia is an United States organization every images responds to fair use? so, what's important, the language wiki version, the country where photo has been published, the country from where im editing and uploading the image?

Zen-kiu-beri-mach, Neotex555 (talk) 23:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

All Wikimedia projects are hosted in the United States, which is also where Wikimedia is incorporated; accordingly American law applies whichever language is being used. Note, though, that Misplaced Pages's policy for allowing non-free content is actually much more stringent than fair use under American law: meeting fair use under American law is necessary for non-free content to be included in Misplaced Pages, but it is not itself sufficient. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 23:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know about Spanish Misplaced Pages, but I understand that some language Wikipedias do not allow any non-free content. —teb728 t c 01:15, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

In general, for non-free content the most reliable thing to do is simply pay close attention to Misplaced Pages's non-free content criteria. It's better not to worry about whether or not an image's usage fits within US Fair Use law since doing so is liable to confuse the issue due to that fact that Fair Use and the non-free content criteria are not the same (as Sarcasticidealist pointed out). -- Hux (talk) 05:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

888

business group in yiwu china zhenjiang which protects enviromental through various business opinions director is MUBANGIZI MALCOM PIOUS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.112.113.161 (talk) 10:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

No copyright, no ISBN, no sources at all - can I still use it?

I have a book about Dunn's Falls, talked about in the Sites of Interest section on Meridian, Mississippi's article. The book cites no copyright information, no ISBN number — nothing. The text on the front of the book is:

DUNN'S FALLS PARK

Lauderdale and Clarke
Counties
Mississippi

MASTER PLAN
For
Historical and Recreational
Development

Prepared for
Pat Harrison Waterway District

Prepared by

Kemp, Springer & Associates, Ltd.

On the inside cover, it gives the seal of Kemp, Springer & Associates, Ltd. and a date of September 1984; however, no copyright symbol/copyright date is present. Does this mean that the book isn't copyrighted, and I am free to do as I please — including scanning the pages as pdfs and uploading them to the web?

The book has a ton of information and many pictures that would be useful to a new article. Thanks for your time!
-Dudemanfellabra (talk) 16:03, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

See the section "Omission of Notice" in the U.S. Copyright Office's Circular No. 3, Copyright Notice. I do not find this work in the U.S. Copyright Catalog (1978 to present), doing keyword searches on "Dunn's Falls Park", "Master Plan for Historical and Recreational Development", "Pat Harrison Waterway District", or "Kemp, Springer & Associates". — Walloon (talk) 16:43, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

"The work must have been registered before it was published in any form or before the omission occurred, or it must have been registered within five years after the date of publication without notice and he copyright owner must have made a reasonable effort to add the notice to all copies or phonorecords that were distributed to the public in the United States after the omission was discovered. If these corrective steps were not taken, the work went into the public domain..." — So since there is no copyright notice on the book and it doesn't show up in the copyright records, does this mean that it is public domain, or must I contact the publisher to find out if any of the above steps were taken?

Sorry for the trouble; I just want to be absolutely positive that I'm not infringing on copyright. Thanks! --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 16:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Both of the steps must be taken to preserve the copyright if the work was published without a copyright notice. It couldn't hurt to contact the Pat Harrison Waterway District and Kemp, Springer & Associates. But since no copyright notice appears on the work, and no evidence appears in the Copyright Catalog of the work's registration, I would consider the work to be in the public domain. — Walloon (talk) 17:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Prooving copyright permissions

Hello, I've been given copyright permission to use both the logo of the CPA and a photo of Alan Craig however (I'm not sure what I can do to prove it. I'm personally not the copyright owner.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnlumgair (talk • contribs) 16:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

You need to send them a release form. It informs them of exactly what Misplaced Pages requires in order for us to use the image. The image must be freely licensed to allow for commercial use of both the original and derivative works (such as CC-BY-SA). Once they've filled that out and emailed it back to you, you forward that e-mail to OTRS for confirmation at permissions-commons wikimedia org. Lara❤Love 17:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

1497 woodcut/illustration question

I was referred here from Misplaced Pages talk:Image use policy for a second opinion, so I'll do a cross-post:

I came across this image on this page, which is clearly just a zoomed-in image of this work, which appears to be drawn from a work called Hortus Sanitatis by Johannes de Cuba that was published 21 October 1497 in Strasbourg. The super-quality dkimages.com is oddly tagged copyright. Is this a public domain for our purposes or fair use? I'm baffled how a high-quality scan of a 511 year old wood carving can be copyrighted. Lawrence § t/e 22:16, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's clearly public domain. I'm guessing that the person is assuming they hold a copyright specifically for the digitized image of it simply by virtue of having created the image. It's a misunderstanding that happens all the time. -- Hux (talk) 00:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

C3 Chevrolet Corvette

I`m interested in the C3 Chevrolet Corvette , and I need to know what body type does it have ?? , is it a G-body !!??

Could you send the answer to : <email removed>

This is a forum for media copyright questions regarding usage on this website. Lara❤Love 04:09, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Does all video game screenshots/boxarts...

1. Does all video game screenshots/box arts can be used freely? Because it seems they are scattered in any game sites.

2. Also, if I take my own screenshot of a game, is it considered my own work or do I still need to get a copyright license? Thanks

--Logicartery (talk) 15:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Logicartery - video game screenshots and box art will never be free (except in the extraordinary circumstance of a video game publisher releasing them into the public domain or licensing them under a free license, which may literally never have happened). Such images can be used in some articles under Misplaced Pages's non-free content policy. This includes screenshots that you take, which remain copyrighted by the publisher. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 18:22, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

It IS possible for a video game screenshot to be free, if they've been released under a free license like the GPL. For instance, Commons, which only accepts free licenses, has a whole gallery of video game screenshots. --Rat at WikiFur (talk) 20:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Unsure of status for a photo owned by my family

Hi, my grandmother owns a promotional photo of my grandfather that was taken at his request and subsequently used for publicity purposes. She has given me the rights to use it as I wish, but I'm not sure how to tag it correctly for Misplaced Pages as it's not a photo I created and - although I've been given the rights to it - I'm not sure where exactly it fits.

I've currently uploaded the photo to Flickr, and can be viewed here:

I want to use it to illustrate the article on Dennis Berry.

Many thanks, Howie ☎ 01:51, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Unless there was a contract saying otherwise, or it falls under the narrow definition of a work for hire, then copyright still belongs to the photographer, regardless of who has a physical copy of the photo. However, it may be Public Domain depending on how and when it was published, see Misplaced Pages:Public_domain#Published works --Rat at WikiFur (talk) 04:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

The copyright was owned by my grandfather - he commissioned the photograph from a photographer at the company he worked at. Howie ☎ 04:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

There's two possibilities:

It might be Public Domain; did you look at Misplaced Pages:Public_domain#Published works? If you can't figure it out tell us and we'll try to figure it out: What year was it created in? What year was it published? Was it published with a copyright notice? Was the copyright registered? Was the copyright renewed?

Or if you are indeed the copyright holder, then you get to choose the license: See WP:ICTIC. Fill in the Source section of the image page with all the details that show how you got the copyright. --Rat at WikiFur (talk) 08:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

thermodynamics

what is meant by free delivery of reciprocating air compressor? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nieptjc (talk • contribs) 02:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the online 💕 that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. —teb728 t c 07:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Old familiy picture

I have trouble trying to chose the license for an old (almost 80 years) family picture of my grandfather, Dr. José Luis Duomarco, that I want to include in an article about his life as a scientist. Could you please help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtierno (talk • contribs) 13:04, 14 April 2008 (UTC) Rtierno (talk) 13:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Who took the photograph? Lara❤Love 15:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

It's an old picture we have in our family album, possibly taken for administrative, bureaucratic purposes.Rtierno (talk) 16:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

It might be public domain; see Misplaced Pages:Public_domain#Published works --Rat at WikiFur (talk) 18:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I tried to upload it under public domain licencing, using the tag

This image is in the public domain in the United States because it was first published outside the United States (and not published in the U.S. within 30 days) and it was first published before 1978 without complying with U.S. copyright formalities or after 1978 without copyright notice and it was in the public domain in its home country on the URAA date (January 1, 1996 for most countries). PD-US Public domain in the United States //en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions

This file is believed to be out of copyright in its home country, as well as the US. If this is confirmed when checked, it should be transferred to Wikimedia Commons, unless the file is tagged {{Keep Local}} , but the page doesn't allow that option. I cannot select "public domain" as an option for "licencing". Am I doing something wrong?Rtierno (talk) 12:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

G. Edward Griffin

An amicable discussion is occurring at this article on the subject of images in the article. We would like some expert opinion about whether the inclusion of photo of a book cover of a book written by the subject meets guidelines or not. Thanks for your help --Slp1 (talk) 14:24, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Answered there. {{Non-free book cover}} explains that fair use only applies for use in the article discussing the book. Lara❤Love 15:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I had a feeling that was the case. Thanks.--Slp1 (talk) 15:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

On the other hand, that specific cover may be ineligible for copyright; a short title and geometric shape is too simple to be copyrighted. The eagle is the Great Seal of the United States, a work of the federal government, and therefore public domain. --Rat at WikiFur (talk) 17:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I await further opinions with interest! --Slp1 (talk) 17:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

LaraLove, I think the book is discussed to a significant extend in the article, so I conclude that this rule actually allows the use of the book cover in our case. Or does an "article discussing the book" necessarily have to be the article solely about the book? Please note that the rule states "an article" but you said "the article". Please reconsider, it's still not clear to me. Thanks. FeelFreeToBe (talk) 18:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

In general, Misplaced Pages's non-free content criteria only allow for the use of a copyrighted book cover to illustrate discussion of the cover itself (i.e. its design), whether in a whole article about that cover or in a section of some other article. The exception to this is the convention that a book cover can be used in an infobox at the top of the article about that book. However, having said that, I agree with Rat at WikiFur: this cover is probably ineligible for copyright since it consists solely of typographical elements and one image that is in the public domain by default, so on that basis you're free to use it in any article without legal restriction. (I'm going to edit the license info to reflect that.) However, having said that, from an encyclopedic style point of view I don't really think it should be in the article: that fact that all it consists of is typography and the seal of the United States makes it pretty uninteresting, in my view, and I don't really think its inclusion adds anything to the article. So on that basis this whole discussion might be rather moot. :) -- Hux (talk) 19:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Please verify if free

The Drapier's Letters uses four original pictures: 1, 2, 3, 4. They are from the originals (over 200 years old). However, they were sourced from "Eighteenth Century Collections Online", which is a pay site. What is the Misplaced Pages rule for using free items from pay sites? Ottava Rima (talk) 03:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

If the images are in the public domain, which they certainly appear to be, it doesn't matter where they were obtained or whether any fee was paid to access them. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 03:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Even if formatting and the rest would make them different than the original item? Seeing as how this is a book, copyright becomes new when there is a new format or stylistic change. A pay site would not be public domain. Hence the dilemma. Ottava Rima (talk) 04:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Btw, I like the sourced images, I just feel that it might be wrong if we clean out all of the old pictures from a pay website and add them to Wikicommons. Perhaps some on the OTRS may need to respond on this. Ottava Rima (talk) 04:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

If an image is in the public domain then it's freely usable, period. If someone uses that image and creates a work from it that is considered sufficiently transformative then, as you say, it becomes a new, copyrighted work. The only question here is whether or not these images are public domain (and they certainly seem to be, as far as I can tell). If so then you are free to use them however you wish, irrespective of what the owner of that website may think. Note also that just because a creative work is being offered for sale that doesn't say anything about its copyright status - people are free to attempt to sell public domain work if they like and they routinely do (e.g. the works of Shakespeare). -- Hux (talk) 10:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

So, if a book cover uses a painting that is in the public domain, I could then crop the book cover and use it? What are the boundaries to this? None? Ottava Rima (talk) 14:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

picture from the NTL press club UFO conference at NOV. 12 2007

is it possible that we use the following picture at http://www.freedomofinfo.org/images/group_web.jpg for the UFO article? when searching the web, the guy called "Bernard Thouanel" seems to be the only one who took all the photographs at the press conference. i think it's important to show the people that the press conference was indeed real and that this information, given in the ufo article, is not something we made up. hence, maybe it's possible to claim "fair use"...but i don't know exactly and therefor ask here if it's possible to use at least one picture. AnubisGodfather_© 10:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I doubt that your proposed Fair Use claim would fit with Misplaced Pages's non-free content criteria, specifically point #8: "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Given that linking to the website on which the image appears would accomplish the proof you're looking for just as much as including that image in the UFO article, why not just do that? -- Hux (talk) 10:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

hm, that indeed would be a good alternative. so, for now i'll simply link to the website and see what the future brings.AnubisGodfather_© 10:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Kim_Deal.jpg

Hi I accidently uploaded this image without putting my "public domain" copyright on it. Can somebody do it for me or tell me how to do it? Thanks Speedboy Salesman (talk) 17:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyright violation???? and request for mediation

I showed an official reference instead they made edits without references-http://en.wikipedia.org/Tenshinhan reference number 30 is not official but it comes from a fan page which means they made unsourced editions several times. This is not a copyright violation??????-URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3716/gruposraciaisd7oy1.gif URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6541/shishinnokendg6.jpg These scans were provided by myself why insist to keep them in the discussion page??? I am working in citizendium too. Can you help me and warn these vandals * User:Prede * User:Lord Sesshomaru can i add my officila sources in the refences of this page????http://en.wikipedia.org/Tenshinhan --Saxnot (talk) 17:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)Saxnot

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