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== Undelete Pamlico 140, please ==

Hello, ST47, nice to talk to you. Okay, So my username is Pamlico 140. And I created a Page Named Pamlico 140. Your spam bot read it and blocked me from posting, and therefore i had to log off to write this message. I can see how the bot recognized it as a page about me, or about my beliefs and opinion. But please, I can Explain. You see, I am a devoted sea kayaker. i own a kayak called the "wilderness Systems Pamlico 140" , Pamlico 140 is the model name (Like Camry, in toyota camry. it is my username because i am very fond of this kayak and It is my username for every website. I made a page for the Pamlico 140, and I was very neutral about it and it was an article about the kayak, not me. It simply stated facts, not opinions. At one point, some people changed it and put their opinions in it, but I fixed it. Also, your bot recognized it as an advertisement, and heres why thats unlogical- There are hundreds of articles on individual car models, just like my article of an individual kayak model. So if the "Subaru Legacy" page is not spam or an Ad, what makes "Pamlico 140" an ad or promotion. I did not intend to promote it. Please, if there is something unsatisfactory about it, tell me, and I'll try my best to correct the problem ] (]) 04:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

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Perl

How exactly can I download Perl for Windows? Thanks, - 'Milks 'F'avorite 'Cookie 23:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Your sig is too long, you need to shorten it.
You can get ActivePerl for windows from activestate - google that company name. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 10:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Image Help

I wanted one of my Images (STBotI tagged it) checked and made sure that the copyright information is up to check, so I put a message on the bot and here so that I can get it checked ASAP. Here is a copy of the message I left STBotI:

I think it is "up to code", so to speak, now. Image:Crystal Mystery.jpg Just double check, I don't want to get in trouble with an administrator, nor you for that matter. Please and Thank You! --Obaidz96 (talk) 04:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

You also need a copyright tag - I've added the correct one. Thanks! --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 10:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

BLPWatchbot

Access Request. SWATJester 00:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Acknowledgment of Access Request, Acceptance of Proposal, Request for IRC Cloak of Applicant. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 02:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Swatjester@wikipedia/Swatjester SWATJester 05:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Done, access granted. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 17:41, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Block messages

Just a reminder that it's good practice to leave a talk page message for users you block, like User:GhostStalker. Stifle (talk) 13:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. I'm on my laptop at the moment, so I don't have all the neat scripts to do my job for me :( --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 13:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

BLPWatchbot

Access Request. NonvocalScream (talk) 01:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. Is anyone going to ask using complete sentences?? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 02:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I copied Swatty. :) NonvocalScream (talk) 02:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Perl

So other than paying all that $money$ there is no other way to get it for Windows? - Milk's favorite Cookie 01:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No, it's free. There's a free version somewhere. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 01:56, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
For 20 days* - Milk's favorite Cookie 01:57, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Are you looking at http://www.activestate.com/store/download.aspx?prdGUID=81fbce82-6bd5-49bc-a915-08d58c2648ca ? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 23:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Nope - not that. Thanks; I downloaded it + Installed. Can you help me? I would like to have it patrol Special:LonelyPages and tag pages that are orphaned (except dimambig pages) Can you help? Thanks! - Milk's favorite Cookie 23:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Have a look at the module, that should have MOST of the tools you need - lacking a way to access Special:LonelyPages, but if you look at the module, you should be able to adapt some of the other code. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I saw that. How exactly do I run it though? - Milk's favorite Cookie 00:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure, you'd have to look at the activeperl documentation. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 10:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I found the documentation - Could you help me out? Thanks - Milk's favorite Cookie 21:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
What exactly are you having trouble with? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 23:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
How would I log in with Newsletterbot. What would I click on.... etc. - Milk's favorite Cookie 23:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
You would get perlwikipedia.pm from the link I gave you earlier, save it to a directory, and in that same directory, make a text file with the necessary code:
use Perlwikipedia;
$editor=new Perlwikipedia($USERAGENT);
$editor->login($USERNAME, $PASSWORD);
Obviously, replacing the all-caps variables with whatever you desire. I'd suggest a useragent like "Bot/WP/EN/YOURUSERNAME/BOTUSERNAME:VERSION", as that contains the necessary information. You can also put an email in there. Save it to a file, extension .pl, and open a shell. Navigate to that directory and run (I think) perl nameofscript.pl. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I got everything until "navigate to that....." - what directory? "Perl," "wperl" - and how would I run it? Thanks for the help. - Milk's favorite Cookie 00:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
The directory you saved the script file to, and I told you how to run it. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 02:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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Not sure if you're going to pop onto IRC at all but in case you didn't know, the bot has not been in all morning. - Rjd0060 (talk) 19:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. I'm waiting for a reply from the toolserver admins on my account's status. Hopefully it should be restored within 24 hours. That's why my bots are down, and why I'm not on IRC. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 19:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:BRFA

Please see my response. Nothing444 20:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Unexpired request

Hey -- I just wanted to make sure I let you know, I re-opened a bot request, which you had previously expired (the user wasn't active at the time), because the user came back and asked to re-open it. Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests for approval/PseudoBot. I hope that's the right way to go about it... SQL 01:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

That's fine, don't worry about it :) --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 01:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, regarding the NFCCBot thing.... If I "screwed the pooch", and messed everything up, I'm sorry. I just have a lot of other stuff going on right now, and, I've got no desire to work on it anymore, particularly with the ratio of amount_of_crap_generated to usage_and_usefulness at this point. Were you even still planning to run it anymore btw? I kinda figured your image bot, and Carnlido (I hope I got the spelling right...)'s (which, can do DAB's I understand), and the other one which for the life of me I can't find so may very well be imaginary, coupled with BCBot, kinda eliminated the need for further image bots of that type right now. Anyhow, After the last couple days, I'm done with it. Sorry again. SQL 03:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Image tagging bot

I uploaded an image of an album cover a while ago, having checked the Fair Use Policy, and included justification for why it complied with the fair use policy. However, STBotl tagged it, and (seemingly) subsequently removed it, before I'd had the chance to respond to the initial tag. I'd thought it was ok, so I just wanted to check whether it was a misunderstanding on my part of the fair use policy. Thanks

What image? Who are you? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Jealousy screwedcover.jpg

Hi, can you send me a copy of that image? (Image:Jealousy screwedcover.jpg) I saw on the deletion log that you deleted it, and I can't find anywhere on the internet. I would like to have a copy of it, for private use (on my music library). Is that possible for you? :DJhn* 20:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Please email me through the wiki interface so I can sent it as an attachment. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Newusers

Heya, regarding User:ST47/newusers, I've been updating it near-daily lately, and, I had a question. Would it be possible to filter out blocked accounts? SQL 05:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

That uses a database query, right? Post it here and I'll see what I can do. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 14:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Sure, here she is:

set @counter:=0; select @counter:=@counter+1 as rank, user_ids.user_name as username, count(logging.log_timestamp) as number from logging, user_ids left join ipblocks on ipb_user=user_id where logging.log_type='newusers' and logging.log_user = user_ids.user_id and ipblocks.ipb_id is null group by logging.log_user order by number desc limit 100;

I tried a few times, but, for the life of me I couldn't get it to do what I wanted it to :( SQL 00:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
That got it, thanks! SQL 01:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you! --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 10:28, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Malfunctioning bot

User:STBotI again tagged for deletion sourced images, claiming they're unsourced (Image:EuropeanSerbia.jpg). --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 17:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

The image didn't, and still doesn't, have a copyright tag explaining the type of image. Foundation-level NFCC policy requires machine-readable non-free media verifiability, and we implement that through the copyright tags. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 18:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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RFRBot doesn't seem to be working at this time, is there anything wrong? — E aussie 00:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

It seems a few changes I made to my common library caused all my bots to be unable to notify me if they got logged out. RFRBot got logged out, and I didn't notice. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 02:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Fruits Basket images

A comment about your deletion of a large number of images that were various Fruits Basket character articles. I fully understand, and agree with, the need for free use rationales and for using only essential non-free media. And, indeed, many of those were not essential -- and, in fact, I'm preparing to merge several of the affected articles into the list of characters, making images moot. But not all of them. It is extremely annoying that no notice that these images needed rationales was ever given in the articles, either by editing the captions or on the talk pages, thus giving interested editors the chance to provide valid fair-use rationales. Please, in the future, stongly consider giving your fellow editors due consideration. Or in other words, play nicely, eh? —Quasirandom (talk) 16:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Or, to put it another way, this is supposed to be a collaboration. —Quasirandom (talk) 18:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

They were tagged for over a week, and they were uploaded incorrectly in the first place. If you need then, reupload them properly. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 19:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
They may have been tagged, but pretty much no one but the original uploader watches an image. And since I wasn't the uploader, I don't have them to reupload. In other articles I've worked with, notifying the editors who work on it, somewhere in the article/talk page, has been SOP courtesy. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:08, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Chuck Lorre

Hey, I just wanted to say good job on that edit you did to Chuck Lorre's page. It was getting ridiculous. Misplaced Pages could use more people like you who cut out the BS and the spin and just state the facts. Well done.

I'd say thanks, but I haven't a clue what you're talking about - I've never edited that page. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 01:01, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


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The information provided is correct, and is not copyrighted. Foxfoxfox87

Rationale tagging issue

Hi. Some non-free images were incorrectly tagged as having no/invalid rationale on 21 April . I just looked at a few of the more than 500 images tagged yesterday and noticed these; there may be more mistagged images. Also, you did not reply to my 20 April message about mistagged book covers on User talk:STBotI, so here is a link to it in case you did not see my message on that busy page. All the best, Bláthnaid 13:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I haven't been looking at stbotI's page recently. I've fixed the problem in your first link, however 2 and 3 are valid taggings - the bot needs to see a link back to the page it's used on, not just a reference. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 15:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
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Oh wait, I've just noticed that there is a conflict in the wording in WP:NFCC#10 ("The name of each article (a link to the articles is recommended as well)) "and the 2nd paragraph of {{Di-disputed fair use rationale}}, which says ("per WP:NFCC#10c, each fair-use rationale must include a link to the specific article in which fair use of the image is claimed") so that tagging is not your bot's fault. That's my mistake, so apologies! Bláthnaid 16:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

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Is requesting unblock. I don't believe it is a bot, and do similar things myself with FF tabs. Please look into it and provide more guidance to the user if you would like him to get a bot flag. Either way, he can probably be unblocked. Thanks, - Rjd0060 (talk) 17:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I unblocked cause he gave a reasonable and plausible explanation why he edits taht fast and Werdna pointed out that there is no rule against high speed editing, just against unapproved bot editing. MBisanz 17:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hi ST47. If you have a moment, could you take a look at MediationBot1? It seems to have made rather a mess of the formatting on pages it edited today - e.g. , . Much appreciated, WjBscribe 18:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Probably from when I was screwing with my utf-8 code. I've reversed my changes. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 21:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

AWB Help

Hey, I was wondering if you could approve ShepBot for AWB so I can get to the trial edits soon? Thanks a ton! §hep¡Talk to me! 19:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot tagged Image:DatsolaleeBaskets.jpg in error?

Hi, your bot tagged this image in error, I believe. I carefully examined the image page, and can't find any problems. Would you please take a look, and let me know if I missed something? If not, please remove the tag. Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 20:04, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I've never seen a rationale tag accept unnamed parameters like that. I've added a way for the bot to check for that way of doing it, however rest assured that the image is correct. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 02:27, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 15:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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That's a strange way to post a rationale, but I thought I accounted for that. I've added additional rules to the bot to prevent such issues. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 18:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Undelete Pamlico 140, please

Hello, ST47, nice to talk to you. Okay, So my username is Pamlico 140. And I created a Page Named Pamlico 140. Your spam bot read it and blocked me from posting, and therefore i had to log off to write this message. I can see how the bot recognized it as a page about me, or about my beliefs and opinion. But please, I can Explain. You see, I am a devoted sea kayaker. i own a kayak called the "wilderness Systems Pamlico 140" , Pamlico 140 is the model name (Like Camry, in toyota camry. it is my username because i am very fond of this kayak and It is my username for every website. I made a page for the Pamlico 140, and I was very neutral about it and it was an article about the kayak, not me. It simply stated facts, not opinions. At one point, some people changed it and put their opinions in it, but I fixed it. Also, your bot recognized it as an advertisement, and heres why thats unlogical- There are hundreds of articles on individual car models, just like my article of an individual kayak model. So if the "Subaru Legacy" page is not spam or an Ad, what makes "Pamlico 140" an ad or promotion. I did not intend to promote it. Please, if there is something unsatisfactory about it, tell me, and I'll try my best to correct the problem 64.136.26.201 (talk) 04:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)