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| ::What is it with bot owners who don't clean up after and/or monitor their bot? Why would you program a bot to declare that adding an s to a word is an act of vandalism to begin with? That's aggressive, then ignoring the damage you cause by improperly programming and monitoring your bot? That's passive. I grant you expertise in passive aggressiveness on that basis. | ::What is it with bot owners who don't clean up after and/or monitor their bot? Why would you program a bot to declare that adding an s to a word is an act of vandalism to begin with? That's aggressive, then ignoring the damage you cause by improperly programming and monitoring your bot? That's passive. I grant you expertise in passive aggressiveness on that basis. | ||
| ::Badly designed bots that improperly revert good edits by new editors who've made a single edit that doesn't contain any bad language, any deletions, or any indications of spam, are worthless. --] (]) 00:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | ::Badly designed bots that improperly revert good edits by new editors who've made a single edit that doesn't contain any bad language, any deletions, or any indications of spam, are worthless. --] (]) 00:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
| :::That is total nonsense. By that definition, all of the bots are useless, including cluebot and the like, since they make *some* mistakes out of thousands of edits. I don't really care to discuss this nonsense anymore, so stop adding it to my talk page. ''']''' 01:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
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The hiccups of bot-editing Misplaced Pages
I notice that at 01.49 on April 30, VoABot II twice reverted anonymous corrections of vandalism to the article John Paul Jones back to the (signed) vandalised version. If VoABot were human, it would be facing a 24-hour block about now... David Trochos (talk) 18:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Also agreed ! Hethurs (talk) 23:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Nonsense. They were not "anonymous corrections of vandalism". They were vandalisms in their own right: and . The fact that these reversions left earlier vandalism untouched is immaterial. Philip Trueman (talk) 15:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Mayfield Park
Just wondered why the Mayfield Park, Southampton page that I'd barely started to create (in good faith) was deleted immediately? It is a park. A green open space, with trees, birds, flowers, swings for the kids and some interesting history (Mayfield Park). It is definitely not a club, band etc.
Somebody or something is being a bit over zealous !
The park was formerly part of William Chamberlayne's estate It contains a memorial to Charles James Fox It also contains the site of a water-powered wood-working mill established by Walter Taylor in 1762. Troops were camped there in the build-up to D-Day
There's enough there to be significant contribution to Misplaced Pages I would think ! Hethurs (talk) 23:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Any page can be recreated, if it meets the criteria. For something like this I'd at least put in some sources. Voice-of-All 00:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- The page was deleted so quickly, I didn't have a chance to put in the links. I was still working on it having made an initial start. I understood from the article on what to do if your page is deleted that it is not lost, it can be retrieved. Perhaps you would be good enough to retrieve it ! Hethurs (talk) 08:49, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- You might want to pursue WP:DELREV. Philip Trueman (talk) 15:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- I haven't the time, or the patience or the inclination to go through that process. If this user hadn't removed the page inappropriately, it wouldn't be necessary. He seems to accept that it was an inappropriate deletion. All this is doing is wasting my valuable time. Voice of All deleted the page, so it's his responsibility to put that mistake right. Hethurs (talk) 06:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- VoA, I must admit I can't see any justification for an A7 looking at the deleted content. Since when was a park a group/company/organisation?!! :) Nevertheless, not a problem. I've offered to work with Hethurs to see if we can recover this situation, and hope you won't mind me offering assistance in this instance. Pedro : Chat 10:02, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Why would I mind? I'm not here to make people angry. In patrolling hundreds of pages, some things might be done that people disagree with. It's quite a thankless job really. I think I'll stick to the far end of NewPages, since those pages are the oldest. Anyway, A7 seems to have changed slightly last time I checked...kind of annoying. Voice-of-All 15:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- VoA, I must admit I can't see any justification for an A7 looking at the deleted content. Since when was a park a group/company/organisation?!! :) Nevertheless, not a problem. I've offered to work with Hethurs to see if we can recover this situation, and hope you won't mind me offering assistance in this instance. Pedro : Chat 10:02, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- I haven't the time, or the patience or the inclination to go through that process. If this user hadn't removed the page inappropriately, it wouldn't be necessary. He seems to accept that it was an inappropriate deletion. All this is doing is wasting my valuable time. Voice of All deleted the page, so it's his responsibility to put that mistake right. Hethurs (talk) 06:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Please don't chase away good editors
... Misplaced Pages already has enough bots doing that. One edit, and the user made the sentence grammatically correct by adding an s to two words, and your bot probably chased him away forever. Thanks. The reason the article Homebox and so many genetics articles are prone to vandalism is because there are so few good editors working in these areas. When editors come by they get attacked by bots and accused of vandalism. This does not improve Misplaced Pages, it does the contrary: it gets rid of good editors and provides a safe haven for crap. --Blechnic (talk) 01:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- What is with the passive-aggressive rants around here? Voice-of-All 15:33, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- What is it with bot owners who don't clean up after and/or monitor their bot? Why would you program a bot to declare that adding an s to a word is an act of vandalism to begin with? That's aggressive, then ignoring the damage you cause by improperly programming and monitoring your bot? That's passive. I grant you expertise in passive aggressiveness on that basis.
- Badly designed bots that improperly revert good edits by new editors who've made a single edit that doesn't contain any bad language, any deletions, or any indications of spam, are worthless. --Blechnic (talk) 00:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- That is total nonsense. By that definition, all of the bots are useless, including cluebot and the like, since they make *some* mistakes out of thousands of edits. I don't really care to discuss this nonsense anymore, so stop adding it to my talk page. Voice-of-All 01:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)