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| == Rosicrucian Pope == | == Rosicrucian Pope == | ||
| I read a book called "Holy Blood and Holy Grail" that claimed that Pope John XXIII was a member of a Rosicrucian order. And that kind of surprised me because the Catholic Church opposes wizard groups. | I read a book called "Holy Blood and Holy Grail" that claimed that Pope John XXIII was a member of a Rosicrucian order. And that kind of surprised me because the Catholic Church opposes wizard groups. But it makes sense because during his reign the Catholic Church for a brief time turned friendly towards Masonry,although after he died they reiterated their condemnation of it. | ||
| == Famous persons considered to be Rosicrucianists == | == Famous persons considered to be Rosicrucianists == | ||
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This article contains some links to redirects and unwritten articles. Please do not remove these links, or if you do save the links on this talk page. I use these links to remember what I need to write. Optim 01:16, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)
so, go ahead. There is a lot to do :-))) Umberto
I see the name Rosenkreutz alternating with Rosencreutz. Which is it? heidimo 02:33, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
They're interchangeable- just two differing anglicizations, both found in historical documents.
-FZ 21:27, 10 Jun 2004
Not even different anglicizations but just 17th century spelling variants. (flaig@sanctacaris.net)
Rosy Cross
Is it worth noting that the rose and cross are symbolic of the female and male genitalia? Pmurray bigpond.com 04:53, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sure it is, but should not be overconsidered either. All successful initiatory societies owe at least part of their appeal to the fact that their symbolism is open to a wide range of explanations -- especially if there are so many different representations as there are of the "rose croix", from a cross within a rose to five roses on a cross. Maybe someone could present a few examples? I have (from Golodowin's "Dictionary of Symbols"), but they are under the publisher's copyright. (flaig@sanctacaris.net)
Rosicrucian Pope
I read a book called "Holy Blood and Holy Grail" that claimed that Pope John XXIII was a member of a Rosicrucian order. And that kind of surprised me because the Catholic Church opposes wizard groups. But it makes sense because during his reign the Catholic Church for a brief time turned friendly towards Masonry,although after he died they reiterated their condemnation of it.
Famous persons considered to be Rosicrucianists
Am I the only one to think that this chapter may be exagerated ? Apparently, prior to the 17th century, there is no mention of the rosicrucian order. Ramon Llull for instance was known to be a christian with progressist ideas but he was a member of a known monastic order. The lack of evidence and the proeminence of very famous people in the list as well as their geographic dispersion makes me wonder if this paragraph is not just propaganda or even hot air.
I have just added some more :-)
But I also made it more precise by saying that some of these persons are just influences (all people who lived/published befor ethe 17th cent. cannot be considered rosicrucians, as the term was not coined yet - the manifestoes were not yet published). And in the end, you are right of course: this is mainly "hot air", as there was (probably) no real "rosicrucian order" at that time anyway.
memo 08:52, 16 August 2005 (UTC)