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I can add that there were two references, and the other was not old. I am attempting to complete the contribution, and people are removing it in as little as one minute after I post what I have. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I can add that there were two references, and the other was not old. I am attempting to complete the contribution, and people are removing it in as little as one minute after I post what I have. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Three-revert rule ==

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Ghetto benches

I am extremely surprised that you appear to have shown no interest in the above article. Having read your User page, I would be very much interested in knowing your views on that subject, especially since we are both admirers of Malcolm X and the Article concerns the segregation practices of Poland against Jews before and during World War II. I would be pleased if we discovered some common gound on some articles. --Ludvikus (talk) 09:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Jewish question

I do appreciate your latest logical voice with me. However, for reasons that I need not go into, the current circumstances make it very difficult for me to assume good faith. I would appreciate it if you met me half way. --Ludvikus (talk) 02:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

New Antisemitism Mediation

I think thats its time we got moving. A couple of the points have been raised before and felt they were the foundations to the dispute:

  • Firstly whether the picture can be confirmed to have been taken in the rally in San Fransisco.
  • Secondly to come to an agreement on what new antisemitism is and then to decide what the image is depicting and whether it purely illustrates New Antisemitism or whether it also addresses other issues which could be confused with new antisemitism by new readers.
  • If we cant confirm the those then we need to find a viable alternative.

A point i would like to raise is that at some point a lead image might need to be found if this article got to FA. The image in question is not free and couldn't be put on the main page with this article as todays FA. Although not an immediate point a long term solution might wish to be found so that this article could feature on the main page with a viable alternative.

Does anyone have access to Lexis Nexis? It might help as a search on the network could uncover something not readily available on the internet. Reliable sources that use the image would be helpful. Do you reckon that there would anyway of finding third party images that might possibly contain the poster/placard? Also i would be grateful if images of other placards at that rally could be found to find whether this was a small minority at this rally or perhaps a larger group.

Whilst that is being done i wanted to find out on what the consensus view is on what New Antisemitism is? I have read the article and the previous discussion and attempted to get a proper understanding but i wanted to ensure that this was current.

PS any sources you find can you please post in the section at the top of the mediation talk page. Seddon69 (talk) 16:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Following discussion at the mediation talk page, i would like to bring up a suggestion that until the end of the mediation to remove both images from the article. There is currently no real consensus on the images so in the interests of fairness it seems best to simply have no images. If you have any suggestions or comments then please come to the mediation talk page to be discussed. The discussion will be open for around 5 days if there are no problems. But the discussion will go on if there is ongoing discussion. ŠξÞÞøΛ 00:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Aaron Lopez

Updated DYK query On 18 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aaron Lopez, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 10:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Definition of "actuary"

Malik, what is an actuary?

Answer: An accountant without the charisma.

AustinTexasRRTX (talk) 15:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC) Robert, Austin, Texas

Crown Heights Riot

Sorry to disagree with you twice here, but it's in good faith and with admiration for your contributions! Cheers, DBaba (talk) 02:16, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Malcolm X (film)

Thanks for the feedback. I'm a bit weird in that I know about the short-hand, but I tend to always use the full cite in case a later edit moves or deletes the first one --sort of extra protection in case. I've gotten used to using copy/paste and leaning to use preview to see how a the paragraphs flow together. Again, I really appreciate the comments. All the best --Bobak (talk) 16:34, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Undo on Miscegenation

Malik, I thought it was relevant as a cultural reference~(interracial films category)~ at least as a mention along the "In the United States" portion of the article. I did not find a Wiki article on the subject by itself so I thought I'd add it in as an encyclopedic mention since that is a category of film related to the article and kinda uniquely American I think. Being a history-buff myself, I like the articles on American culture (pop and otherwise!) and so I see if I can improve them a little. It is not a subject discussed or written about much anywhere anyway. I found only ONE book that was about this subject on Amazon.com and it's called:"THE MIDNIGHT OIL" by Ken Knight.

MaxButterchuck (talk) 11:41, 27 May 2008 (UTC)MaxButterchuck


Afro-Caucasians

Hello,

no, this category is meant to include biracial people, i.e. people having a white parent and a black parent, or a white grandparent, or a black grandparent, etc., much like the "eurasian people" category. Hence, people having recent African and European ancestry. Notable examples are Barack Obama, Alicia Keys, Alexandre Dumas or Halle Berry. The "Afro-Caucasians" category already existed, but did not include people, so I created this sub-category. I guess the term Afro-Caucasian was coined as a politically correct equivalent to mulatto. However, due to the fact that this category I had innocently created (I meant it to be an equivalent to the "eurasians" one, which already existed apparently without causing controversy) led to a protracted and mind-numbing edit war with a pair of unsavory individuals, I'd rather not deal with it for the moment (nor do I feel like contributing to Misplaced Pages for the moment). I value my nervous health and would rather not waste a second of my time with kindergarten inquisitors. Feel free to add some introduction if you like. Best regards, Wedineinheck (talk) 13:09, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message,
the creation and administration of this category has led me to be confronted to a mind-boggling level of bad faith from two particular editors, who considered that classifying people by ethnic origins amounts to condoning Apartheid. That could be disputed, but I did not make up such categories and tend to think that they should be voted/discussed for deletion first, before starting a war with good faith editors such as me, who are just trying to add some logic to classifications. The orwellian conflict I had with these two fellows has left me with feelings of hatred towards wikipedia, and I have to wait for some time to see if I can get over it. Anyway, I do not currently feel that I can contribute in a relaxed way. If you want to discuss with other users the validity of ethnic categories, please go ahead. I think it might be useful in order to avoid situations such as the one I went through. Best regards, Wedineinheck (talk) 08:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I'm one of the "unsavory individuals" or "kindergarten inquisitors", as it were :), and John is the other one. I'm not sure I completely agree with Wedineinheck's categorization of events. Reviewing his contribution history may be instructive. To your question on the criteria for inclusion in this ethnic category, as with any, there needs to be a cited reliable source for the characterization (observation or conjecture based on surname, place of residence, etc., is not enough) and a pressing need to include it in the biography, some source that references the ethnicity as having had a noticable influence on the person's career or achievements. Some folk that are concerned with BLP matters periodically review these categories and remove those biographies that don't meet those criteria. Hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 19:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I understand the WP:RS and WP:BLP concerns. I've raised them with an editor who was putting people into Category:Americans of Native American descent. My question simply concerned the basic criteria for inclusion in this category. — ] (] · ]) 20:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Moment Magazine changes

Hi, I would appreciate it if you didn't change the Moment content...I am from the office and would appreciate it if you didn't criticize... thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Circusmark88 (talkcontribs) 18:44, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


The name is Moment so I will keep your change for that... As for the rest... Previously there was some very basic info, and the new info is just to embellish on the magazine's history and mission...A lot of readers have asked about having wikipedia be more extensive...so that is the reasoning —Preceding unsigned comment added by Circusmark88 (talkcontribs) 19:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Your revisions of the Philippé Wynne article

Thank you for your edits to Wynne's article, however I added the sections in order to properly format the article and make it easier for those seeking particular information on the subject to find it. A great number of articles who have gained "featured" and "good" article status use the same format so I figured Wynne's article would be much more successful if we used the same type of format. K.H (talk) 02:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Good point, I'll wait until the article grows to add subheading. Thanks! By the way I'd really appreciate your help on the article if you can make time for it. K.H (talk) 02:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
That's unfortunate, I want to expand the article as well but there's no available information on him and no users seem to know anything about the man. K.H (talk) 03:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

100-Year Old Encyclopedia

Your criticism of an old encyclopedia is meritless. Some facts never change, and some things would not be known today if they had not been known 100 years ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.250.38.111 (talk) 03:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I can add that there were two references, and the other was not old. I am attempting to complete the contribution, and people are removing it in as little as one minute after I post what I have. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.250.38.111 (talk) 04:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Three-revert rule

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Your recent editing history at Template:African American ethnicity shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

We're both older editors, but it appears you need to be reminded of the three-revert rule. Shem 05:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)