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Member of The Bilderberg Group

Anyone have an idea of what to put on this subject? (Zenxlow (talk) 08:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC))

Picture

THe current picture is simply horrible because of it's very low quality. Someone please replace it Daimanta 19:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I deleted the part saying that the book 'De aanslag' by Harry Mulisch is about the riots during Her Majesty's marriage. De Aanslag is a well-known work about life during nazi-occupation. --83.118.94.73 20:20, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Have added the Dutch Royal family template, was quite shocked to not find it here--Dudeness10 16:26, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Can anyone list all the Qeens titles (maybe in Titles of Beatrix of the Netherlands)? And maybe a discussion on the usage of these titles. I've seen on a guilder note that all the titles were shortened to "H.M. Beatrix Wilhelmina Armgard, koningin der Nederlanden, prinses van Oranje-Nassau, prinses van Lippe-Biesterfeld etc.". Is this the usual thing to do or is it just "H.M. Beatrix" or something?

A possible source: http://www.parlement.com/9291000/biof/10001—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gorm (talk • contribs) 01:46, 11 November 2003 (UTC).

Done -- 81.132.199.72 17:46, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Mecklenburg-Schwerin

Following the death of Princess Juliana has HM Queen Beatrix inherited the title Duchess of Mecklenburg-Schwerin and where would it appear in the list of Her titles? garryq 14:21, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Those are the worst hats I've ever seen in my entire life. I love them. - Montréalais 07:30, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Titles

Officialy, Beatrix has not adopted the title of Grand-Duchess of Mecklenburg Schwerin. Being in Germany, Salic Law usualy prevails, and women cannot assume such titles. It is likely that Juliana's use of the title was, in fact, only a courtesy title as her father was the sovereign duke (Such events are customary, and are not usually passed on to the decendants).

Also, I suspect it was a tricky issue, as at the time of Juliana's abdication, Mecklenburg was part of the communist DDR, and diplomaticaly, was easier not to pass on the title (although I am only speculating).

Personaly though (despite it not meaning anything to anyone else), I recognise the title as Beatrix's (but I also regard Her as the true Grand Duchess of Luxembourg, and Queen of the United Netherlands).—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 's-Gravenhage (talk • contribs) 21:25, 8 February 2005 (UTC).

Titles 2

HM The Queen Beatrix does not use the title of Duchess of Mecklenburg. It must be made clear that in any case she cannot use the title of Grand-Duchess of Mecklenburg-Schwerin because her grandfather, from whom the title comes (HRH Henry, Prince of the Netherlands, Duke of Mecklenburg), was a duke and not a grand-duke. His father was a grand-duke but since Henry was a younger son he did not inherit the grand-ducal title. Furthermore, all titles of HM The Queen Beatrix (except for all those of marchioness and of lower rank)are based on Royal Decrees. The female line of succession in the Netherlands has, in history, given rise to some difficulties with titles. From the moment that it was decided that Her Royal Higness the late Juliana, Queen of the Netherlands would bear the titles of Princess of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau and Duchess of Mecklenburg, the trend was set. Namely: the royal title of Prince(ss) of the Netherlands and of Orange-Nassau would, at all times, remain intact for the members of the Royal House. In subsequent generations (i.e. Juliana and Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld & Beatrix and Jhr. Claus von Amsberg it was made clear by the Royal Decrees about titular matters that although the Dutch royal titles would remain intact, the acquired titles through the male husbands (Henry, Duke of Mecklenburg, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands & Jhr. Claus von Amsberg) would only be passed on to their children in their old form (i.e. only inheritable through the male lineage). Accordingly, HM The Queen Beatrix has no right whatsoever to the title of her grandfather Henry, Duke of Mecklenburg because she could not inherit it through her mother. Interestingly, the current Crown Prince: HRH the Prince of Orange, and his brothers have inherited their father's title of Jonkheer van Amsberg and they have, being male, children who inherited it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.46.70.240 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC).

P.S.

If she were to adopt the title, it would come between Princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld and Marchioness of Veere and Flushing. Normally, it would be the second title after Queen of the Netherlands, but Orange, Nassau and Lippe-Biesterfeld are considered sovereign principalities (even though all three are in republics).—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 's-Gravenhage (talk • contribs) 13:07, 9 February 2005 (UTC).

P.P.S.

Again, she could not adopt the title. Furthermore, Orange, Nassau and Lippe-Biesterfeld are not sovereign principalities anymore, even from a theoretical point of view.

Not Tidy

I think This page needs to have a tidy and some more photo's included and a clear layout, including a larger section on her Silver Jubilee.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.154.144.104 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 3 May 2005 (UTC).

Brought in Picture

I brought in this picture from Prince Claus page, please move to a more suitable section of this page if you want i felt that this page was lacking images. Right Honrable—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.155.86.248 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 26 May 2005 (UTC).

Have seen this before on this page.-is it ok for it to be displayed on the page again? Right Honrable—The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 22:49, 10 June 2005 (UTC) (UTC)

upcoming/recent events

I deleted these two sections. "Recent events" had only one event listed, while the Queen 'has' a very large number of notable events. Upcoming events doesn't really belong in a encyclopedia (at least, not the kind of event that was posted.. if it was something big it might have been notable). -- Mystman666 20:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Removed a hack

I restored the name and link of Prince Bernhard of Lippe-Biesterfeld as the father of Queen Beatrix. It had been replaced by the name of and link to one "Remco Katz". Lokimaros 03:42, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Copyright violation?

Large portions of the text in this article appear to have been lifted from the official site of The Dutch Royal House. Was prior permission obtained for this, if necessary? Indeed, IS it necessary? For example:

"In Canada, Princess Beatrix attended nursery and primary school. On her return to the Netherlands, she continued her primary education at The Workshop (De Werkplaats), Kees Boeke's progressive school in Bilthoven. In April 1950, Princess Beatrix entered the Incrementum, part of Baarnsch Lyceum, where she passed her school-leaving examinations in arts subjects and classics in 1956." is copied from http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/english/content.jsp?objectid=13164.

Paintings, historical artifacts and jewellery belonging to the House of Orange are usually bound up with the performance of royal duties and have a certain cultural value. This property has been placed in the hands of trusts: the House of Orange-Nassau Archives Trust and the House of Orange-Nassau Historic Collections Trust. Part of the collection is on permanent loan to Het Loo Palace Museum in Apeldoorn and the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. is from http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/english/content.jsp?objectid=13343

These are examples only.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jammy simpson (talk • contribs) 16:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC).

Daggers

Is there any particular reason why there are typographical daggers before the names of some of the Queen's relations? There doesn't seem to be a corresponding footnote, and it's unusual to put them before something, anyhow.—Kbolino 03:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

It seems to be indicating that they're dead. (Usually "†" is used before a death date, using "†" with a name and no date is a little peculiar.) - Nunh-huh 03:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I was just wondering this same thing. There's no explanation or cross-reference (:-P) and so their presence is even more useless than they might otherwise be; usually a monarch only ascends after the preceeding throwback has died. --Belg4mit 04:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, that's not true in her case, (her mother being alive when she became queen, though dead now) and they mark others, who weren't monarchs, as well. - Nunh-huh 13:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Source?

I'm not saying this passage is wrong at all, I just want to find a source about it for my own research. "Beatrix is rarely quoted directly in the press, since the government information service (Rijksvoorlichtingsdienst) makes it a condition of interviews that she may not be quoted. This rule was introduced shortly after her inauguration, reportedly to protect her from political complications that may arise from "off-the-cuff" remarks. It does not apply to her son Prince Willem-Alexander."

This intrigues me, especially when considering her high-profile membership to the Bilderberg group. Speaking of which, I'm sure someone could dig up guest lists to prove that she is as I said.--Shink X 02:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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Bleached

Recently there was a picture of some 35 years ago in a paper and the woman on it was darkhaired. On nowadays pictures she is always light blond. In case somebody knows, when the bleaching started, and what exactly the natural haircolor is (brown or black) let him/her share this information with the readers of this encyclopedia, who in many cases are not aware of this developement. James Blond (talk) 04:49, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

cadet branch

I think it's odd that the House of Orange-Nassau, in Beatrix's case, is considered to be a cadet branch of the House of Lippe. In the Netherlands' royal house the Salic law is no longer valid. The Queen Beatrix is thus a member of the main lineage of the House of Orange-Nassau in her own right, without reference to the fact her father was a prince of Lippe-Biesterfeld.

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