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:Thanks for the message on my talk page. As you're a new user you may not know that there used to be a whole series of "Allegations of apartheid..." articles about various countries. They were deeply tendentious and have almost all been deleted (with much difficulty); I played a significant role in that process. The only one to have survived is "Israeli apartheid" , which has existed for a long time and has survived seven previous nominations for deletion. Frankly, I don't hold out much hope that it will be deleted this time either. I have to say, though, that you've perhaps been a little unwise in jumping in and trying to get it deleted so soon after you created your account. -- ] (]) 23:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC) | :Thanks for the message on my talk page. As you're a new user you may not know that there used to be a whole series of "Allegations of apartheid..." articles about various countries. They were deeply tendentious and have almost all been deleted (with much difficulty); I played a significant role in that process. The only one to have survived is "Israeli apartheid" , which has existed for a long time and has survived seven previous nominations for deletion. Frankly, I don't hold out much hope that it will be deleted this time either. I have to say, though, that you've perhaps been a little unwise in jumping in and trying to get it deleted so soon after you created your account. -- ] (]) 23:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Allegations of Israeli apartheid
Please quit trying to list this for deletion. First of all, you're not even doing it right. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 22:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Just because nobody's working on the article doesn't mean that it doesn't belong. Issues such as POV disputes can almost always be fixed without deletion. I see no reason to delete this one just because it's unbalanced — the topic is notable, and the sources are reliable. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 22:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- The sources are FAR from reliable, as demonstrated by the overwhelming support for its deletion. It draws from highly biased sources (like Uri Avnery) throughout the article. It's politically motivated and not right for wikipedia. You wouldn't find this in any Encyclopedia. Now, if you can find some people who are willing to correct the article, then fine. But until then, it needs to go.
- There's still potential in the article, even if the sources are swayed; I can't imagine 150+ sources all being biased. The article may need a total rewrite, but I don't think it's beyond repair. I don't know much about that field, so you might want to ask someone with more experience in similar articles. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 23:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
In relation to this, might I suggest that you spend a little more time learning about how Misplaced Pages works before you jump in with both feet in an effort to set the world to rights? You've been an editor for two days. I think that's a bit premature to be trying to nominate very contentious articles for deletion. -- ChrisO (talk) 23:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with the above user; hang around here a while longer, familiarize yourself with the project a little more first, especially when dealing with contentious articles like that. Furthermore, the article's gone through seven AfDs and was kept each time. Listing it an eighth time might be considered disruption (I can see your points and I wouldn't think it disruptive). Clearly, you're here to help the project, but it's best to start out small. Help out in smaller ways, like fixing typos or creating new stub articles first. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 01:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I didn't know you'd been hanging around anonymously. Still, the article may need rewrite, but that's no reason to delete it outright. One thing you can do is place a {{rewrite}} tag on it if you think it needs to be rewritten, or discuss your issues on the talk page and/or at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Israel. Deletion isn't always the answer. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 01:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
If you need to update the nomination then leave the original in place and make additions or updates below. Also, if you have an account, use it all the time instead of flipping between it and your IP at 70.181.148.148. Also, sign any future entries on talk pages. --Thetrick (talk) 04:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the message on my talk page. As you're a new user you may not know that there used to be a whole series of "Allegations of apartheid..." articles about various countries. They were deeply tendentious and have almost all been deleted (with much difficulty); I played a significant role in that process. The only one to have survived is "Israeli apartheid" , which has existed for a long time and has survived seven previous nominations for deletion. Frankly, I don't hold out much hope that it will be deleted this time either. I have to say, though, that you've perhaps been a little unwise in jumping in and trying to get it deleted so soon after you created your account. -- ChrisO (talk) 23:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Biographies of living people
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