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hi there,

would you pls send me an e-mail when you return?

thx,

 — Xiutwel ♫☺♥♪ (speech has the power to bind the absolute) 22:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Will do. FloNight♥♥♥ 01:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Email

Thanks for your response, FloNight. Please enjoy your wikibreak! Rockpocket 15:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Matewan NHL and WV/KY RHPs

Hi FloNight, thank you for chiming in at wt:NRHP! I'm happy to take mucho credit for having developed out much of the List of NHLs in WV, and it's nice to be appreciated!  :) It would be great if you'd add pics for Matewan NHL or for other Registered Historic Places in Williamson or the rest of Mingo County, West Virginia or in counties in KY you'll cross thru on your trip.

I am really mostly focused on NHLs, but since you are so nice, and to give you a few places to upload RHP pics to, i just expanded into table format the Mingo county section List of Registered Historic Places in West Virginia#Mingo County, covering Williamson, WV, the List of Registered Historic Places in Kentucky (Pendleton County to Woodford County)#Pike County Pike County, KY section covering Pikeville, and List of Registered Historic Places in Kentucky (Fayette County to Hopkins County)#Floyd County for Floyd County, KY, covering Prestonburg, which seem to be on your route. (It was using a tool supported by Elkman, so it was really no big deal.) Let me know, or post at wt:NRHP if you'd like any other county lists developed into table format sooner rather than later. These include addresses. For these and other counties, though, you know that NRHP.COM, a private site serving up public domain NRHP data provides nice lists with addresses. On a couple road trips i went on, i printed the relevant counties from NRHP.COM and found it very helpful to have the printouts.

Those tables in the wikipedia list-articles now also give addresses and latitude/longitude. You may or may not know you can click on "Map of all coordinates" in the same list-articles to get to a Google map with all the RHPs mapped (at least those having coordinates in the tables). The NRIS latitude/longitude data seems pretty good, pretty accurate about 99% of the time, and 1% gross errors.

Sanfranman59 and Clariosophic seem to have been developing List of Registered Historic Places in West Virginia, and perhaps also the Kentucky ones, otherwise; i do not take credit for developing those.

Anyhow, thanks! Cheers, doncram (talk) 21:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Followup--got ur note--glad u find the tables helpful. If you do upload pics to commons but don't have time to create articles on the sites, you can just replace the hidden comment "Image goes here" in the Image field in the table for the relevant rows, with a note "Commons pic(s) avail.". I have been doing similarly, often, when I have noted that Historic American Buildings Survey (HABS) pics are available for a given site. By the way, on a recent road trip, I was happy to have every large-scale printout showing multiple locations and every zoomed-in printout for each separate location from the google maps that i had prepared beforehand, and happy to have every annotation that i had personally added to the printouts (actually, i had trouble getting the printouts to show everything, so i had to hand-annotate locations i think, and to mark distance-scalings on the printouts so i could interpret them). Where i had less info on this trip, i often failed to find the site i was looking for; where i had more info, i was very glad. I also had put all my NRHP.COM printouts and the Google printouts into a 3-ring binder, which i also was very glad to have done. So i felt i was learning a lesson to print out and organize as much as possible in advance. But u can only do so much, of course. Have fun on ur trip! doncram (talk) 22:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed Decision - Homeopathy

Just to remind you (or inform you in case you didn't know) that one vote has been submitted in support of this case being closed. Hopefully it is closed finally. Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I'd also like to remind you that 2 arb-clarifications have been waiting on the discretionary sanctions wording - they can be closed once voted on, sometime soon hopefully. Kirill has already posted the 3.1 version for voting on the requests page. Ncmvocalist (talk) 12:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm catching up on my reading on the clarifications now. I'll get to them as soon as I can. I have several other pressing matter that I need to do first, but voting/commenting on the clarifications is towards the top of my To Do List. FloNight♥♥♥ 13:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you once again. Ncmvocalist (talk) 13:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

;-) FloNight♥♥♥ 14:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

OM matter

Flo, I noticed your post at AN and I appreciate your planning to make a statement, but could you quickly clarify one matter that requires no more than a quick yes or no. Is Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Orangemarlin a valid page representing an ArbCom decision and the closed case or not? Thanks, --Irpen 02:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe that is what will be clarified when a statement comes forward. Thank you for commenting, BTW, Flonight. Best, UltraExactZZ ~ Evidence 03:01, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe a lot of things will be clarified when the statement comes forward the main of which is how did we get into this mess. But my question above is a narrow one and does not require a statement to get answer. Yes or no is all there is to it. --Irpen 03:05, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry that I was unable to reply at that time. I think you have the answer now. FloNight♥♥♥ 01:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Not really. There are actually two options. Option one is that the stuff FT2 posted was a valid official arbcom decision and upon review arbcom decided to retract it. Option two is that there was never an ArbCom decision and FT2 posted his own concoction and presented it as an arbcom decision thus violating the arbitration policy. So, which one is it?

Did ArbCom indeed hear the secret case, came up with this decision and later decided to retract it due to the events that unraveled or was that not a valid case to begin with and just FT2's musings? The new statement posted "on behalf of ArbCom", this time by CM, states that the decision is now "vacated." I take from it that there indeed was an official decision on the secretly tried case where the arbcom acted as an activist agent rather than a judicial body, the arbcom member acted as a detective, prosecutor and a judge (did not recuse) all at once, the accused editor was not notified and the arbcom produced this decision (now vacated.) Am I correct to assume that this was the case?

Could you please reply as soon as you see this message? It's really a yes/no thing and it is about truth, not judgment whose making up may take time and conferring. This series of continued evasions we see from arbcom members is really unhelpful. TIA, --Irpen 01:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I think Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#Comment_by_Horologium is an excellent proposal. Would you support investigation of the events by an Arbcom of another WMF project or creating a comission for investigation from the mebers of different Arbocoms (plus probably ex-arbitrators and people appointed by WMF)? Alex Bakharev (talk) 03:32, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Not at this time. Over the next few days more answers will come to the community. From shortly after the announcement to now, the Committee has engaged in internal discussions about the best way to work through the irregularities that lead to the announcements that did not reflect a consensus opinion. FloNight♥♥♥ 11:03, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Ground Control to All Arb.s (a friendly request for comment)

I wanted to ask you to please consider posting some of your responses, or feedback to the current arbcom situation - I don't think it's massively hyperbolic to note that this really is in many ways a Wiki Summer of discontent (well actually winter for us southern hemisphere types...).

I believe it's the right thing for you, and all other committee members, to be doing right now - I don't think the community as a whole are getting the benefits of any private discussions, and I believe they, and the individuals named in the various debacles around the place, deserve much, much better.

I entreat you to consider signing up as available to offer thoughts, or answer some short, focused, questions. I would also ask you to consider contacting the Misplaced Pages Weekly team, or the 'Not The Misplaced Pages Weekly' team, if you might be available for a short voice conversation.

It's my view that communication really really matters, and I think there's an urgent need for arb.s to step up.

cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 03:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for temporary clerkship

See also Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for arbitration/C68-FM-SV/Proposed decision.

I promise to be on my very best behavior while kicking this blocked-up process in the seat of it's pants. - brenneman 02:44, 3 July 2008 (UTC)