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::Actually, I am not close to the hardware and I am particularly useless for questions of this type. I would recommend asking Brion Vibber. :) --] (]) 13:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC) ::Actually, I am not close to the hardware and I am particularly useless for questions of this type. I would recommend asking Brion Vibber. :) --] (]) 13:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== McCain vs. Obama ==

Hi - I've been watching both ] and ] for a week or two and it's pretty obvious both of these articles are being edited for partisan purposes. To the credit of many of the people involved, most of the partisanship is being confined to the respective talk pages, but there's a tremendous amount of clearly politically motivated bickering going on. I'm curious what you would think about replacing these pages until the November elections with very simple soft redirect pages (fully protected) along the lines of:
:''<x> is the presumptive candidate of the <y> party for the forthcoming U.S. presidential election. Please see <campaign site> for more information.''
Misplaced Pages was not as well known in 2004. I certainly don't know this for a fact, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of the parties are paying people to try to slant these articles in their direction (with negative and positive spin). Paid or not, there are certainly plenty of folks apparently trying to do this. I'm not sure if this is the best solution, but there is definitely a problem. Another admin, ], was trying to moderate the Obama talk page and has given up (in exasperation). The Obama page has been protected off and on, but leaving both of these pages openly editable seems to make them irresistible targets for political POV-pushers. Perhaps there are enough reasonable people around to keep these pages NPOV, but the amount of effort involved seems to me to be quite herculean.

As I say, I'm not sure what the best solution is but I suggest you watch these pages for a while and ponder.

Thanks. -- ] <small>(])</small> 19:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

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A matter of interest

Jimbo - there's a discussion over at WP:NPOV#Fairness_of_tone_wording that you might be interested in looking at (and I don't mean to imply anything by that; I really just think you might find it an interesting read). it's getting at some very core aspects of Misplaced Pages policy, and may have some broader impact across the wikis regardless of how it pans out. --Ludwigs2 20:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC) (I don't know why, but this didn't get archived: added timestamp for archiving purposes Fram (talk) 07:19, 14 July 2008 (UTC))

Request

Mr. Wales, please see this. If you want to lead Misplaced Pages, then lead. Otherwise, please step out of the way. Kelly 01:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

What, precisely, are you asking me to do? In what way am I standing in the way of anything with respect to that case?--Jimbo Wales (talk) 11:31, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I think she means that your not participating in the Arbitration Committee . I thought you made it quite clear to me that you weren't interested in that stuff anyway on one of your previous archives (June, what was the heading?). Graham (talk, contrib, SIGN HERE!!!) 06:24, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Minhaaj

Hi Jimmy. I seem to be having some problems with a user from Pakistan called User:Minhaaj who I believe labelled us bigots, xenophobics and the whole works. He has accused us of being corrupt and unwilling to give the thrid world a chance. I told him he is wrong. Despite this and trying to reason with him, I keep getting uncivil messages like this. It is not pleasant to log in and receive such a message. What would you suggest we do about him? Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 08:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Appears to me as if Minhaaj is sensitive about his third-world country and viciously defends his heritage, interpreting even gentle requests as insults. If only there was a gentler way to say "lighten up, man"... Graham (talk, contrib, SIGN HERE!!!) 06:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Mr. Wales...

Mr. Wales you are a gentleman and a scholar. I look up to you so much that I added your name to my list of role models at school. Thank you for all that you have done. --Vhoscythe 18:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Little technical question

You are close to all the hardware that drives Misplaced Pages, right? If not, can you refer me to a place where someone is?

Anyway, my question is:

How much total space (in the whole Misplaced Pages project, all name spaces, etc.) is taken up by Misplaced Pages:Requested articles and all subpages (as two raw values, maybe with a percentage)? Also, how many links are present in Misplaced Pages:Requested articles (et. al.), and, assuming the size of the "average page", how much space would it take up if someone created all articles at the same time?

Thanks! Graham (talk, contrib, SIGN HERE!!!) 06:10, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

While you are waiting for an answer, you may care to read Misplaced Pages:Statistics. WAS 4.250 (talk) 06:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I am not close to the hardware and I am particularly useless for questions of this type. I would recommend asking Brion Vibber. :) --Jimbo Wales (talk) 13:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

McCain vs. Obama

Hi - I've been watching both John McCain and Barack Obama for a week or two and it's pretty obvious both of these articles are being edited for partisan purposes. To the credit of many of the people involved, most of the partisanship is being confined to the respective talk pages, but there's a tremendous amount of clearly politically motivated bickering going on. I'm curious what you would think about replacing these pages until the November elections with very simple soft redirect pages (fully protected) along the lines of:

<x> is the presumptive candidate of the <y> party for the forthcoming U.S. presidential election. Please see <campaign site> for more information.

Misplaced Pages was not as well known in 2004. I certainly don't know this for a fact, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of the parties are paying people to try to slant these articles in their direction (with negative and positive spin). Paid or not, there are certainly plenty of folks apparently trying to do this. I'm not sure if this is the best solution, but there is definitely a problem. Another admin, user:Clubjuggle, was trying to moderate the Obama talk page and has given up (in exasperation). The Obama page has been protected off and on, but leaving both of these pages openly editable seems to make them irresistible targets for political POV-pushers. Perhaps there are enough reasonable people around to keep these pages NPOV, but the amount of effort involved seems to me to be quite herculean.

As I say, I'm not sure what the best solution is but I suggest you watch these pages for a while and ponder.

Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 19:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)