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| :I think the problem at the ] and ] articles were that some of the other editors were probably ]. They probably didn't know who Al-Haytham was and it baffled them. I eloquently informed them of the opposite---as doing so would ensure my respect. | :I think the problem at the ] and ] articles were that some of the other editors were probably ]. They probably didn't know who Al-Haytham was and it baffled them. I eloquently informed them of the opposite---as doing so would ensure my respect. | ||
| :To be fair, we (I think 6 other editors including me) have at least 5 very-good quality references that state the opposite. The initial discussion was between 5 users: ], ], ], ], and ]. Sincerely, ] (]) 08:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC) | :To be fair, we (I think 6 other editors including me) have at least 5 very-good quality references that state the opposite. The initial discussion was between 5 users: ], ], ], ], and ]. Sincerely, ] (]) 08:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| You have repeatedly reverted edits to ] without responding to requests for input at ]; desist from these reflexive edits, use the discussion process; consider the results of your previous repeated reversions and the discussion related to them.] (]) 10:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Continued Noise
You continue to post Noise to Talk pages, such as this entry , where you post, again, nothing but 'TTT'. Please desist.Mavigogun (talk) 05:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
POV, Refusing to 'get the point': Telescope
You are attempting to FABRICATE consensus to support your POV; back on July 23rd you solicited my support for your POV regarding the form of the Telescope article (previouse to then, I had no involvement in this article); after considering the content and discussion of the article, I could net lend my support to your position. On August 6 you solicited Eldereft's opinion on the mater, and, once again, not finding THE ANSWER YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, you disregard the considered responses to your position.
ShortcutConsensus is built -not fabricated. Please consider why you think no one understands the subject and your position on it -no mater how hard you try to explain. Ether you are poorly expressing your position, or the position itself is flawed: the 'no one understands like I do' argument is a justification, not a reason for a course of action.Mavigogun (talk) 09:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. Please see this page. That is the reason why you guys might hate me. InternetHero (talk) 10:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Please take it up on the page I directed you to. I actually have complete rights to my User Page, so please listen. InternetHero (talk) 10:40, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Canvassing
Please see WP:CANVASS. "...messages that are written to influence the outcome rather than to improve the quality of a discussion compromise the consensus building process and are generally considered disruptive." - DigitalC (talk) 11:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Duly noted. InternetHero (talk) 11:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- You may also wish to familiarize yourself with WP:AGF, WP:CONSENSUS, and the humorous essay WP:TRUTH. - Eldereft (cont.) 17:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. Happy drinking. InternetHero (talk) 01:18, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Norse colonization
Hi. I think I'm going to sit out on the punctuation debate, it's giving me a headache. Regards, ClovisPt (talk) 11:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- HAHA. No promblem. This "Mavigogun" guys seems to see fit following me around. I think he/she likes me coz they've seen my picture from my facebook.com profile on my user page. If he follows me one more time into another article, I'm going to get an admin. I hope theres a policy against "stalking". LOL. cu. InternetHero (talk) 20:54, 10
August 2008 (UTC
- Please, do contact an Administrator; their interjection could only help. My awareness of your activity began when you were canvassing for support of your position on an article and solicited my opinion; edits made there on brought to my attention weakness in your composition and grammar when using English -a language you report is not your native tongue; naturally, upon seeing a list of self described 'Grammar Crusades' on your user page raised concern that, while well intended, you could be doing wide spread damage to the integrity of those pages. Far from 'stalking', this is an organic development.
- As always, I encourage you to make positive contributions.Mavigogun (talk) 05:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
WP:STALK
Hello InternetHero. You may be interested to read WP:STALK. Your interpretation may vary from mine, but I have quoted SOME of the text here with emphasis (please read the link in entirety):
"The term "wiki-stalking" has been coined to describe following a contributor around the wiki, editing the same articles as the target, with the intent of causing annoyance or distress to another contributor Reading another user's contribution log is not in itself harassment; those logs are public for good reason. In particular, proper use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing errors or violations of Misplaced Pages policy or correcting related problems on multiple articles"(emphasis mine).
- DigitalC (talk) 07:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Mentorship
Hi. Regarding my suggestion that we request comment from the wider community on your general conduct as an editor, DigitalC made a suggestion on my page talk page that I think is a really good one. He suggested that an ideal outcome of an RfC would be that you might agree to look for a mentor to help you through the obstactle course that is Misplaced Pages editing.
It just occured to me that we might save lots of time if I just took this suggestion to you. My reasoning is as follows: Without placing blame, you have been caught up in lots of conflict in the past few weeks. I feel that at least in part, a lack of experience and understanding of Misplaced Pages policy on your part has contributed to most of these conflicts.
A mentor is basically an experienced editor who helps provide you with feedback on your edits. As they are usually not involved in any disputes, and their aim is to help you with your editing, they are usually able to provide you with frank, constructive advice, which is delivered in a non-confrontational way. Most mentors are happy to communicate with you off-wiki (usually email or IM), too. You can think of them as a big brother/sister in many ways: They'll let you know if you stuff up, but in the end, they're on your side.
If you're interested in considering this idea, a good place to start is Adopt-a-user. Would you be interested in seeking out such a mentor? -- Mark Chovain 08:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- I pretty much already know all the rules. I've been here for a while.
- I think the problem at the telescope and history of the telescope articles were that some of the other editors were probably racist. They probably didn't know who Al-Haytham was and it baffled them. I eloquently informed them of the opposite---as doing so would ensure my respect.
- To be fair, we (I think 6 other editors including me) have at least 5 very-good quality references that state the opposite. The initial discussion was between 5 users: User:Fountains of Bryn Mawr , User:DigitalC, User:Mavigogun, User:Eldereft, and me :-). Sincerely, InternetHero (talk) 08:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Reverting Edits without discussion
You have repeatedly reverted edits to Abbas_Ibn_Firnas without responding to requests for input at Talk:Abbas_Ibn_Firnas; desist from these reflexive edits, use the discussion process; consider the results of your previous repeated reversions and the discussion related to them.Mavigogun (talk) 10:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)