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| *She says that he gently and tenderly began to touch her and that she was drunk with ecstasy. Then, as on several occasions before when they had reached this point, he stopped and said, "Let me decide when it should happen. It's a very sacred thing to me. It always has been. You know that I want it to be something to look forward to. It keeps the desire there." After this Priscilla sat up in anger and Elvis told her that he didn't make love to his girlfriend Anita the whole four years he went with her. "What about me?" Priscilla lamented. "How long do you think this can go on? God, Elvis, that takes a lot of willpower. That's asking a lot of another person, one who's in love and has strong, healthy desires." Elvis says, "I'm not saying we can't do other things. It's just the actual encounter. I want to save it." Finally, Priscilla resigned herself to the long wait. "Instead of consummating our love in the usual way, he began teaching me other means of pleasing him. We had a strong connection, much of it sexual. The two of us created some exciting and wild times." | *She says that he gently and tenderly began to touch her and that she was drunk with ecstasy. Then, as on several occasions before when they had reached this point, he stopped and said, "Let me decide when it should happen. It's a very sacred thing to me. It always has been. You know that I want it to be something to look forward to. It keeps the desire there." After this Priscilla sat up in anger and Elvis told her that he didn't make love to his girlfriend Anita the whole four years he went with her. "What about me?" Priscilla lamented. "How long do you think this can go on? God, Elvis, that takes a lot of willpower. That's asking a lot of another person, one who's in love and has strong, healthy desires." Elvis says, "I'm not saying we can't do other things. It's just the actual encounter. I want to save it." Finally, Priscilla resigned herself to the long wait. "Instead of consummating our love in the usual way, he began teaching me other means of pleasing him. We had a strong connection, much of it sexual. The two of us created some exciting and wild times." | ||
| *Priscilla also says that sexual temptations were against everything Elvis was striving for. She emphasizes that "he did not wish to betray me, the girl waiting for him at home who was preparing to be his wife. He felt guilty and confused about his natural reaction to female advances and I believe that this was his greatest fear when it came to marriage." He even said one night before they went to bed, "you're going to have to be pretty understanding these next few weeks, or however long it takes. I feel that I have to withdraw myself from the temptations of sex." This Priscilla could not understand. Elvis said, "We have to control our desires so they don't control us. If we can control sex, then we can master all other desires." When they were in bed, Elvis took the usual dose of sleeping pills, and then he pored over his metaphysical books. | *Priscilla also says that sexual temptations were against everything Elvis was striving for. She emphasizes that "he did not wish to betray me, the girl waiting for him at home who was preparing to be his wife. He felt guilty and confused about his natural reaction to female advances and I believe that this was his greatest fear when it came to marriage." He even said one night before they went to bed, "you're going to have to be pretty understanding these next few weeks, or however long it takes. I feel that I have to withdraw myself from the temptations of sex." This Priscilla could not understand. Elvis said, "We have to control our desires so they don't control us. If we can control sex, then we can master all other desires." When they were in bed, Elvis took the usual dose of sleeping pills, and then he pored over his metaphysical books. | ||
| In my opinion, these passages strongly suggest that Elvis had problems with his sex-life as far as his sexual relationships with women were concerned. I think that the discussion was not finished and is still open, though it seems as if my opponents try to suppress it. Any other opinions? ] 17:55, 17 September 2005 (UTC) | In my opinion, these passages strongly suggest that Elvis had problems with his sex-life as far as his sexual relationships with women were concerned. I think that the discussion was not finished and is still open, though it seems as if my opponents try to suppress it, as they have deleted my contribution. Any other opinions? ] 17:55, 17 September 2005 (UTC) | ||
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- Use the Talk pages to discuss the accuracy/inaccuracy, POV bias, or other problems in the article, not as a soapbox for advocacy.
Repeating the same arguments over and over are pointless as this matter is now in the hands of the Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee where it will be resolved. - Ted Wilkes 17:31, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
- Under the circumstances, I endorse Ted Wilkes' interpretation of soapbox. 141's most recent contributions have been an unabated continuation of the same repeated and wholly unsupported (either by WP consensus or the documented historical record) tabloid-style assertions which have already been very lengthily discussed and rejected by every editor who looked into them. Readers can follow the entire discussion in the archives. Wyss 17:48, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
- OK. Would you please dicuss these passages from Priscilla Presley's book, a source you seem to have accepted as most reliable:
What Priscilla Presley says about Elvis's sex-life
In her book, Elvis and me, Priscilla Presley relates that Elvis was not overtly sexual towards her:
- She says that he gently and tenderly began to touch her and that she was drunk with ecstasy. Then, as on several occasions before when they had reached this point, he stopped and said, "Let me decide when it should happen. It's a very sacred thing to me. It always has been. You know that I want it to be something to look forward to. It keeps the desire there." After this Priscilla sat up in anger and Elvis told her that he didn't make love to his girlfriend Anita the whole four years he went with her. "What about me?" Priscilla lamented. "How long do you think this can go on? God, Elvis, that takes a lot of willpower. That's asking a lot of another person, one who's in love and has strong, healthy desires." Elvis says, "I'm not saying we can't do other things. It's just the actual encounter. I want to save it." Finally, Priscilla resigned herself to the long wait. "Instead of consummating our love in the usual way, he began teaching me other means of pleasing him. We had a strong connection, much of it sexual. The two of us created some exciting and wild times."
- Priscilla also says that sexual temptations were against everything Elvis was striving for. She emphasizes that "he did not wish to betray me, the girl waiting for him at home who was preparing to be his wife. He felt guilty and confused about his natural reaction to female advances and I believe that this was his greatest fear when it came to marriage." He even said one night before they went to bed, "you're going to have to be pretty understanding these next few weeks, or however long it takes. I feel that I have to withdraw myself from the temptations of sex." This Priscilla could not understand. Elvis said, "We have to control our desires so they don't control us. If we can control sex, then we can master all other desires." When they were in bed, Elvis took the usual dose of sleeping pills, and then he pored over his metaphysical books.
In my opinion, these passages strongly suggest that Elvis had problems with his sex-life as far as his sexual relationships with women were concerned. I think that the discussion was not finished and is still open, though it seems as if my opponents try to suppress it, as they have deleted my contribution. Any other opinions? Onefortyone 17:55, 17 September 2005 (UTC)