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==Map== ==Map==
Yes, I saw. But it is very hard to read. As far as I can see it agrees with the map I made on major points so I did not use it as a ref. Any specific comments? ] (]) 07:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC) Yes, I saw. But it is very hard to read. As far as I can see it agrees with the map I made on major points so I did not use it as a ref. Any specific comments? ] (]) 07:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== Deacon of Pndapetzim is Calgacus ==

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Calgacus
This is Calgacus.
He attacked you in Władysław Jagiełło discussion. It can be seen in archives. He is not a new user. He only changed his user name on 19th March 2007.
Many antipolish statements were issued by him, examples:
Ethnic slurs against Polish people upon receiving congrats from Ghirlandajo:
"The Poles are pretty tenacious, and doubtless will campaign vigorously or find some device to get it moved to a Polonocentric name. "

Polish spelling of Polish ruler is according to him
"Polish nationalist masturbation".

About historian that specialises in Poland
"Russophobic"

Urging others to oppose Polish users

Accusations that there is Polish Misplaced Pages Cabal

I can't report this. I am not established user. Please notify this to clerks, this is an old grudge attack by polonophobic. His adminship should be reviewed-new name allowed him to hide those ethnic slurs and attacks.

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Hi Piotrus , A request for mediation was filed in regards to the article History_of_the_Jews_in_Poland. You have been listed as an involved party and I would like it if you would participate in our discussion. The goal of Mediation is to find a way to resolve issues such as content disputes. You can find the mediation page here. If you would like to participate please go to that page and state your acceptance and you views about the request. Thanks   «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l»  (talk)

Reviews

Given who Margolick has written for, including Vanity Fair, and that it's the review published in the NYT Book Review, it's a bit difficult to not include reviews such as his. My own feeling is that it's better in the article narrative to insure that the reviewer's POV is reflected as well (per additional quotes) and then cut to the controversy those POVs play into, that is, did all Poles hate Jews and merrily slaughter them without Nazi prompting--basically Gross's premise, or are the crimes of the few being visited upon the entire Polish nation, basically the Polish defense. Feel free to reply here or on my own. —PētersV (talk) 18:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

It's unlikely there will be much in terms of truly neutral outside scholarship. What bits and pieces I've run across take Gross to task for sensationalizing. Had I known I'd be editing, I would have paid more attention at the time. One might indicate that the book has provoked strong emotional responses condemning Poles as a people, certainly "Poles actively and exuberantly applauded what the Germans had in mind for the local Jewish population" from a reviewer fits that criteria. The point is that the Gross' work has created polarization, not understanding, and certainly not reconciliation.
   IMHO, the reaction to it, alone, proves it is not a work of thoughtful scholarship. That it is the second such book rather points to the only one profiting from this all being Gross himself. If Gross were truly attempting to rectify the past, to reconcile communities, to encourage an objective look at the past and for a new generation to admit to the truths it held, he would have written differently. /IMHO —PētersV (talk) 23:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Issues of contention

Replied on my talk. Boodlesthecat 01:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

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Hello. Elonka suggested that I contact you. We've been having an issue with a very young Polish user over at 2012 Summer Olympics (and the talk page (as well as much spamming across Wikiquette and COI noticeboard]]. Attempts to explain in English have failed. There has been a notice put up at ANI which summarizes the situation. Would you be able to help, or find another Polish-speaking admin who can help, explain to this young girl why she is in error, and help her understand how to interact with Misplaced Pages in a constructive manner? Thank you. Prince of Canada 16:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I think the issue is that she simply does not understand the difference between 'reporting' and 'advocating terrorism'. My hope is that if someone can explain to her in her native tongue, either she can be made to understand, or we can learn why she doesn't understand and thus be able to deal with the issue more effectively. Prince of Canada 16:35, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I would say this makes it fairly clear; we have tried multiple times to explain the difference to her, and she just doesn't understand. Prince of Canada 18:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

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Thomas Merton Center disambiguation

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Just a quick note regarding the Thomas Merton Center disambiguation. I still do not think this is necessary, even if the Pittsburgh center gets some hits on Google; I am an amateur scholar of Merton and never heard of it. But I do not have the time or desire to get into a full-blown dispute over this.

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Re:Kiev expedition

The little that I removed I removed for good reason, without knowing who the author was. I put work into it because I'd noticed its problems before, and being ranked A made me think "I better get to this". You can try trusting me on this and questioning me on individual points. I responded to you on the talk page btw. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 17:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Spam

AFAIK WP:NOTREPOSITORY is still a policy. M0RD00R (talk) 17:18, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

See WP:AN#Spam or not?. - auburnpilot talk 18:42, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I collapsed the comment at Talk:Rawa_Voivodeship. Piotrus, when I post messages on spanish on article talk pages, I always post either a translation or an indication of what it is (for example, if it is a literal quote from a source in spanish, I say so and I provide the bibliographical details of the source like book title, isbn, etc.). Most people on english wikipedia can't read polish, so that comment is just gibberish to them, and it's helping to make a better article (please notice that I don't have anything against polish language, it's just that most contributors can't read that message at all).
See, for example, Talk:Senyera#colours_vatican_flag, where I quote a source in spanish and italian because the english version of that page lacked the information I needed. --Enric Naval (talk) 21:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:School and university projects/User:Piotrus/Summer 2008

Hi, Piotrus. I noticed that you posted a comment on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Sociology that you will teach some students how to contribute to Misplaced Pages. That's interesting. I'm interested in Misplaced Pages:School and university projects/User:Piotrus/Summer 2008. I've welcomed some editors. I would like to know few things about this project. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:41, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#Piotrus_2

Hey Piotrus. I have proposed Arbcom hear Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#Piotrus_2, to which you are obviously involved. I feel bad about having to do this, but I feel I'm acting in the best interests of the community. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 09:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Would you help me?

Would you help me translate to english an article at my sandbox? There is polish content about diffrents, similars between Windows Vista and Windows XP. I'd be happy ;] Alden or talk with Alden 20:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Your RFArb statement

Hello Piotrus. Please could you refactor your statement on the main RfArb page? Statements should be 500 words or less, and yours is currently 1330. Thanks, Ryan Postlethwaite 23:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've asked him as well. A good idea when refactoring is to move it into your userpage subspace and link to it on the main article. It would be good if you could refactor it yourself or one of the clerks will have to do it. Ryan Postlethwaite 23:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Zydokomuna

All of the places that you are defacing the article with with cit tags contain the information in the refs supplied. If you need clarification, discuss it on the talk page. I strongly suggest that you discontinue that belligerent, harassing approach to editing an article and adopt a cooperative approach. defacing an article with cit tags is simply a form of harassing editors who supplied the well sourced information. WP:IDONTLIKEIT is no excuse for this editing behavior on your part. Boodlesthecat 00:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The cites are at the end of sections. If you wont refer to the cites and need clarification, ask on the talk page. That is the civil way to approach a cooperative effort, not the belligerent, hostile approach you continually take. I'm through suggesting to you that you moderate your approach. I suspect you will ignore me again and adopt the rude arrogant posture such as in your reply just now on my talk page, and it will only be when it all catches up with you that you actually understand. Boodlesthecat 00:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Map

Yes, I saw. But it is very hard to read. As far as I can see it agrees with the map I made on major points so I did not use it as a ref. Any specific comments? Renata (talk) 07:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Deacon of Pndapetzim is Calgacus

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Calgacus This is Calgacus. He attacked you in Władysław Jagiełło discussion. It can be seen in archives. He is not a new user. He only changed his user name on 19th March 2007. Many antipolish statements were issued by him, examples: Ethnic slurs against Polish people upon receiving congrats from Ghirlandajo: "The Poles are pretty tenacious, and doubtless will campaign vigorously or find some device to get it moved to a Polonocentric name. "

Polish spelling of Polish ruler is according to him "Polish nationalist masturbation".

About historian that specialises in Poland "Russophobic"

Urging others to oppose Polish users

Accusations that there is Polish Misplaced Pages Cabal

I can't report this. I am not established user. Please notify this to clerks, this is an old grudge attack by polonophobic. His adminship should be reviewed-new name allowed him to hide those ethnic slurs and attacks.

--Koretek (talk) 12:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC)