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Joseph H. Wales

Another editor has created an article on Joseph H. Wales, an American ichthyologist. Since Joseph H. Wales has the same surname as you, I thought that you might like to take a look at the article. --Eastmain (talk) 16:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

And how about The Outlaw Josey Wales? Jehochman 17:45, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Although the both articles have got the same surname as Jimbo Wales - you are aware though that they may not be related to him, since Wales is a common surname both in America and Britain. Terra 19:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Is there really a need to be that patronising? :/ Agent Blightsoot 16:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

And the fact that even people with the same surname may not be related to each other, like the comedy singer Al Yankovic and Frankie Yankovic. Blake Gripling (talk) 23:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

if you don't think the guy who recognized theDevil's Hole Pupfish for the public is notable enough for the Misplaced Pages than delete this article immediately. But please stop this discussion. --Melly42 (talk) 06:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

See Wales (surname) which was split off from the disambig page a few weeks back. I have added the new bio article. Jimbo is the third most notable person on the page. Thanks, SqueakBox 19:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Topic Ban appeal

Hello, Jimbo, I would like to appeal the indef topic ban of a good, established editor. User:Benjiboi. I do not believe that the arbitrators(in the recent ArbCom request that was declined) reviewed all the evidence without prejudice, and I do not believe that they completely read through all material, as some have called the editor obsessed when he is not, and others have said that they might be willing to change their vote on the matter if the user in question exhibited several traits, but, despite the fact that the editor in question did show the requested traits, the arbitrator who initially requested the traits did show that they noted the change, or follow through with any sort of support in the matter. Please see this link, as it is the last diff before the page was cleared of this request. Thank you for your time in hearing/reading this.— Dædαlus /_Improve 06:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

As one more note, when I asked questions of the reviewing arbitrators, I was never given a reply, such as when I asked Flo how it would benefit the editing of the encyclopedia that this editor be banned indef from this topic.— Dædαlus /_Improve 06:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

• Comment. I think this is the diff you intended. Jimbo, I really don't know what to say at this point. I don't feel good editors should be caused undo grief especially when reasonable alternatives could be utilized. I'm sure there are editors who earn permanent topic bans but I simply don't see where I've done that - nor had I been approached about such a concern would I have continued in a way that would cast me in such a light. I've been rather stunned at the sweeping lack of good faith towards me regarding these issues and I hope that no one else gets treated in this manner. -- Banjeboi 10:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
• Due to the bot archiving threads that are more than 2 days old, I'm posting this, just to be sure it gets viewed.— Dædαlus /_Improve 11:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I have seen this, and I am looking into it. Benjiboi, are you intending to edit articles on this topic if the ban is lifted? From what I have seen so far, it does not look like overturning the ArbCom on procedural grounds makes sense. So it seems we need to turn a bit toward the content issue, which looks to me to be complex, and it will take me a few days (at best) to study it (and a couple of weeks is more likely). --Jimbo Wales (talk) 15:18, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

The topic is only one BLP; the subject of which is an editor who violated NPA, against myself and others; they are currently community banned after Arbcom.

During the initial stages of this topic ban I had intended to continue editing that article and had agreed from the beginning to follow policy and requested feedback/dialog if indeed I hadn't. Then the only compelling reason for keeping the ban was that the subject didn't like me on the article talkpage, likely because I tended not to agree with them and worked to resolve discussions on uncomfortable material. The article archives are pretty evident of what the atmosphere was like and that I worked to keep discussion focussed.

Others involved in the ongoing drama of the article and witnessing what happened to me contacted me and made me aware of some ... personal issues of the subject which have made me want to do nothing with this user or the article for my own safety. It would be nice if my Arbcom appeals could be oversighted or mitigated online if this is resolved as well so that I become less of the focus when this user returns in some fashion, even if they continue socking.

I agree that technically we can ban editors with poorly formed process as such but I think it's unhelpful when frank and clear communication could have calmed a situation. It takes diplomacy and energy but how much of the same has been used up as a result of, IMHO, using a hammer when a conversation would do. I'm also alarmed at the concept of banning good editors based solely on the subject of a BLP not liking them - that seems like a terrible idea. -- Banjeboi 18:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Before I begin, let me say, Jimbo, this is not directed at you. It is directed at the arbitrators, which IMHO, I feel did not review everything that there was to be reviewed. Yes, they made their votes, upon opinions of the current situation, and said if the editor in question was to change, or show that he had changed, they would re-think things. After the request was met, there was nothing. Not even a note that they had gone over the most recent of material. No response to the user's current editing behavior.

Yes, I know I can be repetitive at times, but I just strongly feel they were only reviewing past material in regards to the editor's behavior, when they should have been viewing current material. Their judgments were of a Benjiboi that has since disappeared, not of the current one that travels through these texts.— Dædαlus /_Improve 07:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Adding this so that the bot does not archive it before it is ready.— Dædαlus /_Improve 22:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

David Brin

Dear Mr. Wales, I have a conflict of interest question, recorded for the most part on my talk page. Is this edit within Misplaced Pages behavorial guidelines? Apologies for what have been a subtle misquote on my part ("or his publisher" is significant and its omission is POV on my part), and apologies in advance if my edits caused any problems. I am happy to answer any questions you or others may have. Otherwise, "Who cares?" might apply, just like the last time I felt it necessary to bother you. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

"Notability"

Hey, just telling you, people are treating "notability" as a rule, not a "generally accepted... thing". What is your opinion on "notability"? Are you aware that, while a book by Dr. Suess isn't notable, every The Simpsons episode is? Just bringing this to your attentio. ] (talk) 23:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Dude, we do not know what you are talking about. Please present a concise and full account of what issues you are having. --mboverload@ 23:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I actually think that "notability" is problematic. It's a shorthand way of speaking, but it leads people to think about the issue in an invalid way. The real work can mostly be done by "verifiability", and "verifiability" is much more amenable to consensus. The Simpson's anomaly is probably my own personal fault, because way back in the day before I really understood the limitations of the medium, I said something like "We should have an article on every episode of The Simpson's, why not?" Whereas now, if I were voting, I would vote to delete. (That's not a decree or anything, I am just saying that my own views have changed substantially.) My increased "deletionism" is very mild when it comes to things like Simpson's episodes - not much harm done. But it is quite strong when it comes to biographies of living persons, where serious damage can be done. --Jimbo Wales (talk) 11:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Library of copyrighted materials

Hello Mr. Wales. I did not know if something like this might be of interest to you, so I thought I would post this here in case it might. This thread originally was written in the Scriptorium at Wikisource. Thank you. Emesee (talk) 04:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Please

Welcome! I am a user Silesian Wikipedii. I have the request to you. Can I be an appearance overcome from you the user sides? Greeting, Ozi64 13:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)